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LeeLoo2014
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posted April 08, 2015 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

I was thinking that maybe that has to do with the relationship between Moon and Saturn, I mean they are ends of an axis, like Venus and Mars, just in their case it is Cancer-Capricorn, IC-MC.

Another aspect is that there is an intriguing astronomical interrelationship between them.

they are an "item" somehow.
They are the frame of our personality so to speak, Moon as the most internal, personal, inner planet, closest to earth or as a matter of fact, a PART OF EARTH, and Saturn being the last frontier to the transcendental energies of Uranus, Neptune, Pluto and so on.

Of course they are also "mummy" and "daddy", the mature feminine and the mature masculine principle (in a different way than Sun of course).
They are related to opposite houses, no matter how you count the houses, just like Venus and Mars are.


And also their "mathematic" is similiar.
I read that in the book by Mertz many years ago.

to complete a cycle Saturn needs just the same amount of YEARS, as Moon needs days / nights.
29,458 years vs. 29,458 days/nights.




I love this description, Ceri, and thank you for pointing out the strange similarity of Saturn and Moon cycles.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted April 08, 2015 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:


"Not to forget the NN/Saturn square, that one comes up so often, either in synastry or comp."
Yes, that is something I found intriguing (also noticed quite a few instances of Saturn/NN and even more so Saturn/SN). In the beginning I would have thought the Saturn square miht be disruptive and blocking, but it comes up so often.
Instead I found that the opposition and square of Neptune to the North Node turns up rather frequently in gloriously failed relationships. Maybe it is just the case in the celebrity world though, but it was chilling to see that.

Well I have a real life example wher it seems to work out. My Brother and his gf have the Neptune-SN-conjunction in synastry and it seems to work for them. After all they have been together for about 9 years and still going strong. Which is not bad for the first real serious relationship (well they both had a relationship before, but theirs is the longest they ever had). They do have a sesisquare between Saturn and NN as well. Interestingly both aspects are very close, only 10 and 11 minutes of orb.


It's interesting I have Neptune conj NN (wide) and all those in similar generations would conjunct my NN with their Neptune.

So you noticed Neptune on SN causes dissolution?

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posted April 08, 2015 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for midnightvenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by astra7:
Saturn-Mars synastry.
[QUOTE]Please consider that any Mars-Saturn-Pluto combination is a warning, not an omen that should be seen in the light of circumstances, characters, situations, genes, culture and all else that is more important than the warning in a chart.

http://astropost.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/mars-saturn-pluto-synastry-sinester.html
[/QUOTE]

I have a Sun-Mars-Saturn-Pluto aspect with my crush.
His Saturn conjuncts my Sun-Mars conjunction and his Pluto squares it.
His Moon trines the conjunction.

This is all supposed to be really intense but I feel like he ignores me sometimes lol

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mir
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posted April 08, 2015 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ No intensity without ignorance at the wrong time I would say hehe.


LEEE!!!! Hello spiritual girl

Ok, an update;

I'm currently in love with a... LIBRA stellium! Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus.. and.. he looks like Brad Pitt! (no kiddin' hihi).. I melt away when I see his lips, his body, his everything... (3 years older than me)

.. but a libra stellium?

*AHUM*

But again (common thing with Sun/Mars of the guy when I feel more..) ... my Venus makes a nice tight config. with his natal Sun/Mars semi-sextile;
My Venus sextile his Sun.
My Venus semi-sextile his Mars.

Isn't that ^ nice ;D

Ow and his Venus is exactly the antiscian/parallel of my DESC. And his Mars conjunct my Asc (by less than 3 for sure).

(dunno his TOB yet).


I clearly notice a lack of astro development when I stay with just ONE guy... lol.

Leo Always has to be in love I guess hehe. The hunt never bores (our *FIRE* nature)


The progressions... ? pfffff...


Well his progressed Sun exactly conjunct my natal Moon right now.

My progressed helio Venus exactly opp. his natal Earth/Moon.

After that it takes some years for my geo Venus to make a conj. to his natal Sun.

Well, let's see!

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posted April 08, 2015 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for midnightvenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
^^ No intensity without ignorance at the wrong time I would say hehe.

Haha, can you expand on this, Mir?
I'd love to know what you have to say!

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posted April 08, 2015 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by midnightvenus:
Haha, can you expand on this, Mir?
I'd love to know what you have to say!


Euhm... well, at my age I think I'm allowed to say that intensity ALWAYS carries some form of 'disconnection' .. so, let's say that everything between the both of you ran super smoothly.... do u think the intensity would still exist then?

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posted April 08, 2015 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for midnightvenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:

Euhm... well, at my age I think I'm allowed to say that intensity ALWAYS carries some form of 'disconnection' .. so, let's say that everything between the both of you ran super smoothly.... do u think the intensity would still exist then?

Yeah, I guess you're right...
Still it's really agonizing bc I wanna know if something will come out of this or not, after all I'm Mars and yes, I don't have the patience.
But still I don't want him to feel as if I'm coming too strong and not allowing his AQUA Sun-Venus conjunction breathe.
I'm AQUA Sun-Mars, btw.

Anyway, thanks for answering!!!!

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LeeLoo2014
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posted April 13, 2015 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
^^ No intensity without ignorance at the wrong time I would say hehe.


LEEE!!!! Hello spiritual girl

Ok, an update;

I'm currently in love with a... LIBRA stellium! Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus.. and.. he looks like Brad Pitt! (no kiddin' hihi).. I melt away when I see his lips, his body, his everything... (3 years older than me)

.. but a libra stellium?

*AHUM*

But again (common thing with Sun/Mars of the guy when I feel more..) ... my Venus makes a nice tight config. with his natal Sun/Mars semi-sextile;
My Venus sextile his Sun.
My Venus semi-sextile his Mars.

Isn't that ^ nice ;D

Ow and his Venus is exactly the antiscian/parallel of my DESC. And his Mars conjunct my Asc (by less than 3 for sure).

(dunno his TOB yet).


I clearly notice a lack of astro development when I stay with just ONE guy... lol.

Leo Always has to be in love I guess hehe. The hunt never bores (our *FIRE* nature)


The progressions... ? pfffff...


Well his progressed Sun exactly conjunct my natal Moon right now.

My progressed helio Venus exactly opp. his natal Earth/Moon.

After that it takes some years for my geo Venus to make a conj. to his natal Sun.

Well, let's see!


Hey, I missed this...Hi Mir my Leo fire! lol Glad to hear you and "Brad Pitt" are hanging out

Great stuff with the sextile/semisextile, any Yod connected to that?

Mars on ASC...ahhhhhhh lucky girl!! he has the hots for you Good luck, babe!

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posted April 13, 2015 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight:
I have a Mars/Saturn conjunction; so does that mean if another persons planet lands on it, I turn into the Hulk?

me too!

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Yanmorg
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posted April 13, 2015 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't believe this is true, unless Saturn-related issues appeal to you in a sexual way?

Anyway, my experience with this aspect has been a living hell and maybe that's because I have mars square saturn natally as well as Saturn square Sun.

Anyway, this aspect just creates frustration for me whenever I try to assert myself or initiate anything.

In synastry, I've had this aspect both ways with almost every guy that I've dated. If other strong synastry aspects come into play, it's only felt when I try to do things related to the relationship (my mars is in my 7th house). If mars isn't well aspected in synastry as well as other horrible aspects, this adds a stiff aura to the atmosphere. Sex is stiff. Body language is stiff. Conversation is stiff. Everything is just well-composed and orderly and sex and relationships aren't naturally that way.

A guy that I had this with, we also had moon conjunct moon and other lovely aspects in synastry and a love stellium in composite which made this aspect play out in a subtle but all consuming way.

That stiffness was very much still there, but it felt more like a stiff cloud of mist that surrounded us. We were wrapped up in our love bubble but right above was that saturn square mars (DW) hovering over our heads constantly reminding us that there was something still missing. It creates so much tension between two people that I guess I can see why some might see it as an intense sexual aspect, but I personally believe that's only if there are other aspects supporting it or modifying it. Key example, me and the guy I was just referring to both have Sun, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, and Pluto in Scorpio.

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posted April 13, 2015 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hey, I missed this...Hi Mir my Leo fire! lol Glad to hear you and "Brad Pitt" are hanging out

Great stuff with the sextile/semisextile, any Yod connected to that?

Mars on ASC...ahhhhhhh lucky girl!! he has the hots for you Good luck, babe!




Ow o o Leeee I was so soo soooo afraid the last 48 hours ... I told him some vulnerable truths about my life and I was almost convinced (after the revelation) it must have been a HUGE turn off for him ... I couldn't sleep, eating 2 bags of potato chips in bed in anger & pain.. etc.

.. but I just now got a ..
"kiss for my love
xx"

*relieffffff*

And.. I have his TOB~! (he called his mom in front of me hihi)

BUT.. he's Not a Libra Sun.. but a Virgo Sun! hehe at exactly 29'59'52 ;D

He's born just after midnight AND he's a BIOLOGICAL TWIN! (his sis is born 7 minutes earlier - nice research object hihi)


Our synastry is FULL of sextiles and semi-sextiles... not much "dynamic aspects in synastry" (thanx for that thread bump btw )

His Asc is conjunct my Venus by 4,5 and my Asc conjunct his Mars by 3 now.

And I our sweet Composite.. Moon *exactly* on the IC ~! (Jup also by 3)


SO, that's ^^ what u all get when someone IGNITES me.. (big rarity)

Or it has to be my true lilith exactly on his Moon.. or his priapus on my Moon by 1,5...

NO idea!

Maybe it's just his progressed Sun at 16'20 Scorp! (11 minutes appl. to my Moon)

ps, no Yod connected at-1st-sight...

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posted April 13, 2015 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ow and to stay with the subject..

My Saturn is SQUARE his Mars by 3,5.

But I'm *GLAD* to see a Saturn/Mars aspect!

I would be really worried without any S/M connection.

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posted April 14, 2015 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
Ow and to stay with the subject..

My Saturn is SQUARE his Mars by 3,5.

But I'm *GLAD* to see a Saturn/Mars aspect!

I would be really worried without any S/M connection.


S/M as in S&M? Just kidding!
Great aspects, especially that mixed DW with Venus Mars on ASC and those Moon aspects totally hot! and I'm glad to see you so enthusiastic


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posted April 14, 2015 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wanna see that chart, Mir! Please!!!!!

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posted April 14, 2015 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ow really? haha..

Which one btw? (do I have to add a specific asteroid?)

S/M lol.. I finally got it when linking it to the effects of Saturn + Mars, spot ON!

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