posted March 23, 2015 03:03 PM            

My first idea is, of course...tadaaah!!!

1. Saturn aspects. lol how revolutionary, right?? Touching someone's Saturn means triggering their long-term interest/involvement/desire to commit (potentially, if you fit their Saturn profile)

with Sun, general commitment to you, your personality

with Moon, mother/father, child/parent archetype, the best to have between those, emotional commitment and sense of belonging/protection

with Venus, need to love and be loved by the person, long-term, general appreciation, growing with time, love commitment

with Mars - sexual commitment, long term sexual interest, growing with time

more to be completed here

2. Trines. Trine energy is familiar from the start, on a psychological level, and they have a comfortable energy. They are about "sliding together", peacefully, in sync. They have a Saturnian value, because they are the aspect of "growing up together", in a continuous, flowing, familiar way, time-related attributes, also their Saturnian vibe comes from the idea of "that which is familiar", another Saturnian attribute. In the natal charts, they show how our inner (psychological) attributes grow and evolve with time - such as talents or other personal gifts/aptitudes. A synastric trine will trigger this process of evolving as a psychological unit/team (easily and naturally, like belonging to the same family), depending on their nature (there are four types of trines). Trine energy (that familiarity) doesn't diminish with time, it has an unaltered quality, it's that feeling you have when meeting an old friend and feeling as if you parted ways yesterday.

What do you think? And what else do you see here?

EDIT:

3. Tgem: MC involvement (direct or through rulership) and/or 10th house: equals having a common future.

Ceri's great thread on the matter:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000405.html
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posted March 23, 2015 04:04 PM            

Now in my current relationship I finally feel, although we have our squabbles, that we are working towards something, that there is so much potential between us and I could ultimately see myself marrying him. I feel as though we were brought together to learn lessons from each other and there is limitless growth. We have rather weak Saturn in synastry (aspects with Uranus and a couple other minor aspects) although we do have "strong" Saturn in our composite if that still counts (trines to Sun/Mercury/Venus).

posted March 23, 2015 04:33 PM            

I feel like that little kid who really likes an adult and might automatically assume that adult is safe, protective, and kind without him expressing it. I just get in his space uninvited, and he is taken aback just a bit. I can sense his surprise and slight discomfort, but I also feel like something in him needs it so he is grateful for my invasion. Here, I practice vulnerability. It allows me to express myself openly without being threatening to him. Again, he is surprised by my openness, but I still think he appreciates it. I let him take it all in without asking for feedback. I don't need reassurance. I know what's up

me Taurus Moon, him Scorpio Saturn

idk, I think my Moon gives his Saturn a break from whatever it's doing down there in Scorpio, lol

oh, his Saturn is conjunct my IC, my Moon is conjunct his DC

posted March 23, 2015 06:30 PM            

Interesting thought about the declinations, Ail. Why?

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posted March 23, 2015 06:31 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
Moon in harmonious aspect to saturn is very strong for long term relationships. Hard aspects don't work as well.

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posted March 23, 2015 07:05 PM            

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Originally posted by ikja:
What about the minor aspects like Biquintil etc.?

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posted March 23, 2015 07:59 PM            

Saturn/ASC DW - my Saturn conjunct his ASC (4) and his Saturn trine my ASC (1).

Moon/Saturn DW - his Saturn square my Moon (2), and my Saturn opposed his Moon (8).**

Saturn/Neptune DW - his Saturn opposed my Neptune (3), my Saturn conjunct his Neptune (4).*** Don't know if this one counts.

Plus:

Sun/ASC trine (5)
Moon/Moon trine (6)
Moon/Jupiter conjunct (4)
Moon/Venus trine (8)
Venus/Venus trine (1)
Saturn/Sun-Pluto trine (6)
Saturn/Venus sextile (3)
Sun square NN/SN (0)

**Although a Moon-Saturn in hard aspect DW seems problematic, it wasn't for us. He was 12 years older. The only thing I experienced was his being critical sometimes of my body, but that was minor.

***Magi Astrology describes this one as a "ball and chain," which I take it means oppressive. It wasn't with us at all.

LeeLoo, hope this info helps.

posted March 23, 2015 08:03 PM            

Meryl Streep and her husband Don Gunner have been together for over 30yrs and share His Saturn square her moon. It's wide though and they have some other promising aspects.
Moon/Pluto DW
Mercury/Saturn DW
Her Vertex conjunct his Sun 1
Her vertex opp his Uranus 1
His NN conjunct her Mercury 1 and Mars 2
Her NN trine his Sun and Mars
Her asc conjunct his Saturn again wide but still
His Saturn sextile her Mars exact
Vesta/Sun Dw

His Saturn parallel her Asc, Moon and Mercury
Her Sun/Venus/Uranus/Pluto contraparallel his Sun/Mars
Her Sun parallel his Uranus/Pluto/NN

posted March 24, 2015 08:59 AM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
I am struggling with this Saturn synastry concept because I had Saturn synastry in 2 of my long-term relationships before and they of course, both ended. I never wanted to end up with either of them.

Now in my current relationship I finally feel, although we have our squabbles, that we are working towards something, that there is so much potential between us and I could ultimately see myself marrying him. I feel as though we were brought together to learn lessons from each other and there is limitless growth. We have rather weak Saturn in synastry (aspects with Uranus and a couple other minor aspects) although we do have "strong" Saturn in our composite if that still counts (trines to Sun/Mercury/Venus).

Are there any other aspects that feel just as binding?

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They must have been the wrong Saturn aspects, especially for your Saturn, since you say you wanted no commitment. What were the aspects?

composite Saturn trine that stellium is a great Saturn aspect to have in the comp, but I usually like to see something in the synastry as well, no Saturn aspects at all in there? Where does the trine come from?

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posted March 24, 2015 09:10 AM            

Copying from Ceri's awesome thread, what I posted there:

my parents:

"To be in a relationship and make it WORK over any lenght of time, you donīt just have to be in love or being attracted to each other or best friends, but you actually have to have compatible lifepaths or goals."

Looking at my parents, at the comparison between them and the Wedding:

Sun/Venus/Union that day conjuncts mother's IC

Jupiter conjuncts father's IC almost exact
Sun/Venus/Union squares father's MC/IC with Sun exact!

Another interesting fact. Psyche that day conjuncts mother's MC, squares father's MC.

Of course, this means, in synastry, their MC/IC are in square, making the Fixed cross. What else do they have there?

Mother's MC squares his Sun (MC ruler)/Merc/POF, sextile his Neptune (5th ruler)
Ceres and Uranus (his IC ruler) conjunct her IC.

Father's MC conjuncts her Moon (DSC ruler) and Pluto (MC ruler), trines her Juno, sextiles her Neptune (2nd ruler)

I thought about looking at the Composite as well, since I also emphasize MC in those charts:

Well, here Moon conjunct Neptune right on MC, part of a Kite with Sun/NN/Jupiter/Uranus/Pluto and a cross with Mars and Saturn, can't get more binding.

MC in Libra ruled by Venus conjunct ASC in Sag, Jupiter conjunct NN, final MC ruler: Mercury in 1st/2nd in mutual reception with Saturn in 7th.

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posted March 24, 2015 09:12 AM            

Also, at leas in my case, there is the striking occurrence with MC/Vertex

I thought about checking MC in my ex relationships:

1st boyfriend

my MC sextile his Vertex, opp his Eros, but that's all
but his MC conjunct my NN and Neptune, Eros on IC too
my Moon trines his MC
my Mercury sextiles his MC

apart from NN conjunct MC, not much, no closed structure

my ex

my MC conjunct his IC closes his Jupiter and Saturn trine
sextile his Vertex
his MC/IC squares my Moon/Lilith
sextiles my Juno

a bit more connected, especially the cross with the Moon.

current

his Moon conjunct my MC crosses with my Moon/Lilith/his Juno, sextile my Sun and ASC, trine Saturn Jupiter.

so our Moons cross crosses my MC/IC

Interestingly, our Suns opp(plus his Vertex axis) crosses his MC/IC/NN.

My Mars conjunct his ASC crosses his MC/IC.
My Uranus makes a Kite with his MC/IC, Saturn and Mercury, apex in his IC/NN.

MC sextile Vertex AGAIN! (The third case)

Do you have MC/Vertex in your relationships?

MC sextile Chiron

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posted March 24, 2015 09:14 AM            

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posted March 24, 2015 09:33 AM            

Speaking of the Vertex and MC, what about an opposite between both that is -1degree?

posted March 24, 2015 09:49 AM            

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Originally posted by peony:
In my longest and maybe happiest relationship that lasted ten years, we had the following aspects in synastry:

Saturn/ASC DW - my Saturn conjunct his ASC (4) and his Saturn trine my ASC (1).

Moon/Saturn DW - his Saturn square my Moon (2), and my Saturn opposed his Moon (8).**

Saturn/Neptune DW - his Saturn opposed my Neptune (3), my Saturn conjunct his Neptune (4).*** Don't know if this one counts.

Plus:

Sun/ASC trine (5)
Moon/Moon trine (6)
Moon/Jupiter conjunct (4)
Moon/Venus trine (8)
Venus/Venus trine (1)
Saturn/Sun-Pluto trine (6)
Saturn/Venus sextile (3)
Sun square NN/SN (0)

**Although a Moon-Saturn in hard aspect DW seems problematic, it wasn't for us. He was 12 years older. The only thing I experienced was his being critical sometimes of my body, but that was minor.

***Magi Astrology describes this one as a "ball and chain," which I take it means oppressive. It wasn't with us at all.

LeeLoo, hope this info helps.

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Thank you, yes!

Strong Saturn contacts, and many other classical aspects.

Critical of your body? Shame on him, especially since he was such an old man I'm curious, does your Moon rule your body in any way (1st, 2nd) or any connection with the body?

Moon in general governs the body somehow (bodily instinctive needs and cycles, the only "body" gravitating Earth etc.) but still..

My body is "ruled" by many planets and asteroids

more specific for the body: Neptune in Sag and Jupiter in Pisces (2nd rulers), but also Ceres Juno in the 2nd, Jupiter in the 2nd too.

and ASC rulers Saturn and Uranus.

plus
Lilith and Pallas on ASC

EDIT: I also believe Mars rules the body in general, mine at 0 Libra 8th.
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posted March 24, 2015 10:24 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

They must have been the wrong Saturn aspects, especially for your Saturn, since you say you wanted no commitment. What were the aspects?

composite Saturn trine that stellium is a great Saturn aspect to have in the comp, but I usually like to see something in the synastry as well, no Saturn aspects at all in there? Where does the trine come from?

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My Saturn sits in the 3rd house and is trine Venus (almost exact). That's it.

As for my current synastry, we have:

Saturn/Uranus DW
Saturn quintile Venus
Saturn semi-square Mars

Which makes in composite:

Saturn trine Sun (under 1 degree)
Saturn trine Venus
Saturn trine Mercury
Saturn sextile Jupiter

Not sure how that works???

In past relationship #1 synastry (5 years, ended badly):

Saturn/Moon DW (his birthtime unknown so that might not be accurate, at least for his moon)
Saturn trine Mercury
Saturn trine Jupiter
Saturn conj. Saturn

In past relationship #2 synastry (3 years, ended fine, still friends):

posted March 24, 2015 10:29 AM            

1. Her Aqua Saturn 7H opp my Leo stellium 1H, trines our Gemini Venus--Mars 11H, trines Libra Neptune--Moon 3H. (Kite)

posted March 24, 2015 10:31 AM            

My Saturn is on their Jupiter(1degree)
My Saturn square their Juno(1 degree)

The composite Saturn only aspect is a sextile to our NN(2-3 degree)
But composite Saturn sextiles my Venus, squares his Venus(0-1 degree)
Saturn sextiles his Moon and Pluto(0-1 degree)
Comp Saturn squares my NN (1-2 )

posted March 24, 2015 10:48 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Could Saturn sextile ASC be binding for the Saturn person?

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It's a great aspect to have, but by itself it won't be THAT binding.

posted March 24, 2015 10:52 AM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
My Saturn sits in the 3rd house and is trine Venus (almost exact). That's it.

As for my current synastry, we have:

Saturn/Uranus DW
Saturn quintile Venus
Saturn semi-square Mars

Which makes in composite:

Saturn trine Sun (under 1 degree)
Saturn trine Venus
Saturn trine Mercury
Saturn sextile Jupiter

Not sure how that works???

In past relationship #1 synastry (5 years, ended badly):

Saturn/Moon DW (his birthtime unknown so that might not be accurate, at least for his moon)
Saturn trine Mercury
Saturn trine Jupiter
Saturn conj. Saturn

In past relationship #2 synastry (3 years, ended fine, still friends):

Saturn/Jupiter DW
Saturn opp. Sun
Saturn trine Mars
Saturn conj. Neptune
Saturn conj. Uranus

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Those are normal youth relationships, so to speak, it happens a lot nowadays, people rarely stay with their first bf/gf, and even the second, because it's easier to hook up. But they are not that short for this category, and these are good Saturn aspects.

Saturn Q Venus looks nice, Saturn/Uranus is probably generational for you two, right?? So it's more like a shared aspect. Not very strong synastric Saturn though, but maybe the Saturn/Uranus connection cmbined with the comp trine could be lasting.

EDIT: and I suppose you like a Mars or Sun or ASC to your Venus/Saturn trine
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posted March 24, 2015 10:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I have a person who's Saturn is on my Juno(2 degrees)
Their Saturn trine my IC/Valentine/Eros (0-2 degree)
Their Saturn square my Sun(4 degree)
Their Saturn square my Neptune(2 degree)

My Saturn is on their Jupiter(1degree)
My Saturn square their Juno(1 degree)

The composite Saturn only aspect is a sextile to our NN(2-3 degree)
But composite Saturn sextiles my Venus, squares his Venus(0-1 degree)
Saturn sextiles his Moon and Pluto(0-1 degree)
Comp Saturn squares my NN (1-2 )

Which of these are positive or negative?

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Sun sq Saturn is a good one, and Saturn to MC/IC. Saturn to Jupiter Neptune could be difficult, but not necessarily. The most problematic could be the unaspected composite Saturn.

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