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Topic: Once Upon a Dream
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SaturnFan Knowflake Posts: 642 From: Registered: Dec 2014
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posted July 03, 2015 07:14 AM
I've had a lot of dreams about specific people, which either come true or show the relationship between us.3 come to mind: 1 was the guy I have so far had the most dramatic, intense, karmic and transformative relationship with. 1 was a guy who relentlessly pursued me for over 1 year. 1 is my current 'crush'. The first 2 have Pisces Suns, the 3rd one has a Pisces Moon. I have a Sun-Neptune-Mercury conjunction trine my Moon, and a Pisces NN - this is how explain to myself that I pick up on Pisces energy in such a Piscean way Also my Moon sits opposite Pluto - not sure if that counts, but I've learned it's always better to count Pluto rather than ignore Pluto. Venus rules my 8H (Libra) and 3H (where my Moon is) and forms a t-square with my Moon and Pluto. Again, no idea what counts out of all of these aspects, but out of all the people I've had dreams about, there's a definite majority with prominent Pisces placements. Will give one example with the first guy. After we formally ended things we still remained friends, both having moved on with our lives, but still in regular touch with each other. One night I dreamt of him coming up to me, hugging me very tight, whispering "Goodbye" in my ear, kissing me on the forehead and then walking away. In the dream I felt at peace with that. The very next day he told me that he's moving abroad, to pursue a dream he had been telling me about for years. I felt very happy about that, it was the best thing for both of us - the next natural step in moving on and embracing the next chapters in our lives. I love this thread by the way - I've been heavily into dream analysis over the past month, and am reading a book by Jung on dreams at the moment. I feel like I'll spend a few years researching this as a hobby. Dreams are such a powerful channel to our incredible subconscious mind!
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 11668 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 03, 2015 10:41 AM
@GemBird ~ thanks for explaining about Helio squares and for admiring my work. No worries about coming back for the tedious job of deciphering my work.  @SaturnFan ~ All so interesting! Yes, I agree, it's often a Pisces thing. The experience you described with your ex is similar to the prophetic dreams I've had as well. And usually, the people who figure most prominently in my dreams have planets tightly aspecting my Pisces moon, or falling in my 8H or 12H. Hmm, come to think of it, I'm going to post the synastry and composite of myself with that Pisces man I mentioned on the first page. --- Good luck with your dream studies! I ought to read more about dreaming, too. Since honestly, I seem to live much more vividly in my sleep. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 7083 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 04, 2015 12:04 AM
Mum and I seemed to have the same dream one night, years ago. I told her about my dream, and she said it sounded like hers, only she had a different view of whatever happened. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 11668 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 04, 2015 12:25 AM
Cool, teasel.  I suspect that my oldest son and I are going to have that experience eventually. His Aqua stellium (including Neptune) conjunct my Mercury. He has psychic dreams, too. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 11668 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 04, 2015 12:34 AM
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 7083 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 04, 2015 12:40 AM
Are those Neptune squares? I had a dream last September, about someone with whom I have several Neptune squares in the composite. I don't know his birth time, only the date. We don't know each other well, and I doubt we'd make good, long-term partners, but we have some sort of odd connection. I had this dream that seemed real, in which he was being really sweet to me, and trying to help me with something in regards to Mum. He lives in a different State, so I didn't get the chance to be around him, and see his body language. We have a Sun, Moon, Jupiter, Mercury conjunction in the composite, and from what I remember, the whole grouping squares Neptune. I'll have to check tomorrow. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 11668 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 04, 2015 12:45 AM
Aw that sounds sweet. I like composite stelliums, they usually make you feel like you belong.Yes, in the charts above, those are Neptune squares. Many. IP: Logged |
bansheequeen Knowflake Posts: 1028 From: Beachville, USA Registered: Jan 2012
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posted July 04, 2015 04:50 AM
Ok this is weird because I never confirmed with them,., haven't talked to them in years actually but I still have dreams and I really truly feel like they experience it too. I recently found out they have almost all the same placements as me even though we were born different years. Same sun, moon, Venus and I think Mars too. And same outer planets...IP: Logged |
GemBird82 Knowflake Posts: 722 From: Female bird from France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 04, 2015 10:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Again, that was a great read.Following your line of reasoning (I think!) 1) Look at Karma links with parents 2) See how the rulers of Karma are aspected in respective charts -------------------------------- But why this ~ why is it an inheritance? " Here's my Heliocentric, as you can see what has been inherited in me is the Neptune, Moon, Pallas influence." I just don't see how your moon fits in there?
~ Hi again it seems like I made some little mistake, I put too much emphasis in a particular case. Astrologically speaking, karma aspecting karma tell us about the interplay between people's debt and/or tasks. In the long term, Karma conj Karma tend to be beneficial, because both people share the same duty. Depending on where Karma is placed , we could deduce if such folks have to deal with situations such as "compassion, forgiveness", "Improvement of Will Power", "Health Issues" or "domestic activities", etc. Sudden/fated opportunities and events will be shared too. This is not really very technical or complex, if for example 2 people have a conjunction of Karma in Pisces or Capricorn, then both people have to focus on their Neptune or Saturn, respectively, to clean up their Karmic tasks (context). <<< why this ~ why is it an inheritance? >>> Oh, I used such words just to explain how some qualities of the whole subdivide, in order to incarnate in this 3d plane. Nothing complex there, said that to point some similarities between my Helio/Tropical. Not many Tropicals (Sub-divisions, fragments, branches) have the same Moon Sign/degree as the Heliocentric. In my case, it seems like my emotions are heavily connected to the Great Attractor (13-14 Sag). (Perhaps that's a clue about why I annoy or irritate others with such impressive ease. It's not intentional anyway)  Here are some simple graphics that may communicate the idea a bit (if not a lot) better than I do ~ lol ! (...) IP: Logged |
GemBird82 Knowflake Posts: 722 From: Female bird from France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 04, 2015 10:40 PM
~ Ok, I think it wouldn't be very nice if I just leave this thread without paying attention to the charts you've kindly shared. So, Here are some clues I see. =================================================================================• It's seems like at a Heliocentric level, you want to improve your own Venus first. • There are exactly 130º from your North Node to Aries 0º • Which means you have a Sag ASC/ Taurus Sun and a packed 6th House in your Draconic Chart if I'm not wrong. • Taking in count both Draco and Helio/ This probably means you've been a very confident person in the past (but at the same time very sensitive), almost with an unbending character and beliefs. • Now, you've chosen a path to Introspection, examination of one's own conscious thoughts and feelings. Scorpio 20º Yours is not a very simple chart to analyze. • Sabian for your North Node: A woman draws away two curtains closing the entrance to a sacred pathway. A symbol describing the past to the mystic's "unitive life". The two curtains represent the darkness of fear, egocentricity and dualistic morality. - But how can a Pisces Moon have egocentricity? It doesn't make much sense for me. Unleast of course, we take in count the Draconic chart. So, you've borrowed some good placements from your Heliocentric chart, to clean up the Draconic (current Karmic path). How strange, you seem to be very different, but at the same time very similar to the way you were before. That's what makes you special, because in the 70%+ of the charts I've seen, the OverSoul seems to have chosen a very different Nature (Tropical) to overcome different Karmas from past times, that's actually very common. Seems like your True-Self is very sure about yourself. =========================== ( ~ So far, this would be everything I could gather from your Helio/Draco/Tropical ). To collect even more clues, I'd have to start reasoning based in a very ancient (hypothetic for some) context. I wonder what would you, Ms Faith, think about the myth of Atlantis. I know, for some folks, this is the kind of stuff that makes them looooooooool or at least giggle ). Anyway, I'm feeling like sharing today because there's Sun conj Sirius right now. If you just don't believe in this, just read it as if you were reading a sci-fi novel. I never try to make others think the way I do, because that would be in fact, kind of oppresive. So, here goes: - Everythink makes more sense if we take in count these points too: • Your tropical Sun is conj Fixed Star Vega. Which means You probably were born on Jan 7th (Neptune) wich is what helps your Venus/Moon (Female energy), the key to complete your task now. Jan 6th would be insanely accurate and even funny. • With Sun conj Vega, (and also a Leo ASC) your current time embodies almost the perfect archtype of a Lyran. • There's no Isis/Osiris conjunction, which means you were born before 1977 (In '77 there was an Isis/Osiris conj, Kama (1387) conj Sirius and Atlantis conj Thuban ) • You should have Kama (1387) conj Venus or Neptune, that would make sense. • For some reason that I don't know. Reincarnated souls from Atlantis tend to have very strong Isis/Osiris/Kama/Vesta/Kaali etc. Strange, like if Soul Evolution in atlantis was influeced by Trantrik/Kundalini practices (I actually know very few things about such civilization, or at least, I think so ). • Your Tropical Karma(3811) has the Sabian Symbol for old past Glories: A retired old Sea Captain. (More of the same, because this symbol describes not a common captain, but a SEA captain. Let's remember that Lord Poseidon was the one who ruled Atlantis (Neptune is not a very good name, for me)) • You have a very tantric chart. • All of these clues, seem to be reflected in your current North Node. 20º Scorpio ~ But what doesn't match here, is what you NN is telling you to do. It shouldn't ask you to go instrocpective/reflexive and let behind something like "darkness of fear, egocentricity and dualistic morality", unleast, of course, there's a piece of that in you (Personally, I've never sensed a bit of it while reading your posts) So, the big question is WHY??? I read some months ago in a post by iQ something like... "Atlanteans hold some serious Karma related to Ego and Pride". That's another Why ? =========================== To finish this. • Your NN is just 1 degree ahead the Serpentis degree. • There's no way we can give a possible interpretation about such degree in someone's natal without taking a look at (55555)DNA. • At a certain point you will have to deal with strong Reptilian/Vampiric genes. How? I don't know... but I wouldn't mention it, if 19 Scorpio wasn't there. Not gonna lie, if you'd have inherited the Cancer Moon/Mars from your Heliocentric for this current incarnation, it would be highly risky for you, you'll propably sympathize with Reptilians/Vampires and would be subconciously victimized by them. That's why you have Pisces Moon and Gemini Mars right now ( also a Capricorn Sun). According to the wheel of life, Pisces is the most evolved of water signs, so is Gemini for the Air element. I theorize there are some ways to accomplish the task of your NN. • Comprehend, forgive and love the energy that you've confronted long ago. • Pisces Moon is Key. Help others, but don't waste your time with people that do not attempt to help themselves or try to stop being lazy or work on avoiding alcohol and drugs, big etc. • "Avoid People that do not have goals and always complain. If they are genuine, they will realize their folly and thank you for it. If they are psychic vampires, they will get angry, irritable and start judging you as insensitive". ~ Advice by iQ • Depending on where is your (55555)DNA and what the Sabian symbols tell us about it, we could find the best clue about why your OverSoul have decided to choose such North Nothe for this incarnation. If you are somehow connected [(55555)DNA)] to more Ancient degrees, then I would mean that you have to deal with even those scaled folks that existed way before Atlantis. Sumerian Gods Anunna were fooling around propably even before Poseidon was born, (not all of them are 'Evil', by the way.) [Where the Word Evil is used to describe the act of Not allowing Diversity and being Oppresive] (...) IP: Logged |
GemBird82 Knowflake Posts: 722 From: Female bird from France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 04, 2015 10:43 PM
~ As per the dreams...Sorry about hijacking your thread... ( I think sooner or later I'll pay that little karma anyway looool ~ Theosophists always hijack mine, well, but it doesn't really bother me... ) I suppose I distracted you so much with my thoughts about the Heliocentric Stuff; but in any case, in fact, the Neptunian/Pallas connection with dreams and/or a strong activity of the subconscient is certainly On-Topic. Hmm... perhaps It would have been better to analyze the chart of the person that had the same dreams as you. IP: Logged |
GemBird82 Knowflake Posts: 722 From: Female bird from France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 04, 2015 10:48 PM
~ But I think it wouldn't be very nice to continue confusing people with my thoughts. I think probably the right choice would be to open (somewhere, somehow) a thread, so I can vent/share the funny stuff that comes out of my mind ( lol ~ without interfering others ). ~ I think it would be actually more polite lol !  =========================== ~ Until next time IP: Logged |
SaturnFan Knowflake Posts: 642 From: Registered: Dec 2014
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posted July 05, 2015 07:06 AM
Hey Faith,Thanks for sharing the synastry and composite, it so interesting! Not only is your composite Moon in Pisces but it's opposite Pluto! And Neptune, apart from the squares, trines Pluto. A lot of signs for a subconscious connection, obvious even to a newbie like me! quote: Originally posted by Faith:
Good luck with your dream studies!
Thank you! It's one of the most fascinating things I've ever done!
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 11668 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 06, 2015 11:17 AM
Absolutely FANTASTIC, GemBird!  Thank you so much. I have a lot of replying and catching up to do on this thread. For now I just wanted to add my chart, with an amateur, *rectified* birth time. So much to say....though I will try not to say too much.... Gemini Mars + Gemini Mars can easily become a case of, too much of a good thing 
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 20541 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 06, 2015 11:32 AM
Faith,your DNA conjuncts my OSIRIS on 7°50 Cap, my ISIS on 8°32 Cap and my Venus on 6°07 Cap quite closely. and as I see we have a Grand trine of your KARMA On 17 Libra your Mars on my KARMA by 0°00 orb!!! my Moon on 17 Aquarius I`ve always been fond of these degrees. 
my own DNA is on 20.20 Libra (easy to memorize).
oh and as I see your ISIS is conjunct my SPHINX exact on the same degree. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 20541 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 06, 2015 11:34 AM
I noticed in these dream/astral experiences a frequent occurrence of Anubis at a pivotal place in the composite, usually conjunct an angle, aspecting Sun or Moon or NN and quite often conjunct Neptune. Does that fit for anyone else, too? Or is that just "my thing"? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 20541 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 06, 2015 11:39 AM
in the case of the friend show shared that Druidian dream with me. our composite has: c-Anubis: 8°17 Sagittarius c-MC: 8°01 Sagittarius with my n ASC 7°01 Sag n Atlantis: 8°15 Sag
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threepoolsoflight Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Registered: Apr 2013
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posted July 08, 2015 08:29 AM
I meant to post this days ago. I had the same dream as an ex-bf once. It was definitely a case of me tapping into his dream and not a shared experience per se. In the dream I was in a band like the Who, and I was the only one not doing drugs. I felt alienated from everyone else. When I woke up I almost laughed because I would never dream of anything like that, and when I told him about it, he looked at me strangely and said he had just been dreaming that. He never believed in anything remotely non-scientific, however. I also had a dream about something in his life that happened too.Lots of Pisces in both our charts. Funny thing is, I dated a Pisces before him & never had any connection like that. Anubis conjuncts my mercury in scorpio exact. Maybe that contributes too? IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 7083 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 08, 2015 06:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: I noticed in these dream/astral experiences a frequent occurrence of Anubis at a pivotal place in the composite, usually conjunct an angle, aspecting Sun or Moon or NN and quite often conjunct Neptune. Does that fit for anyone else, too? Or is that just "my thing"?
I've just checked with the one guy, although I don't have his birth time. Anubis in the first house. Not conjunct anything in the composite, but it is conjunct my Mars, and square my Moon, Venus, and square our nodes (he isn't much older than I am). It also trines my Uranus in the 12th. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 20541 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 09, 2015 11:24 AM
I tend to dream a lot, occasionally there is a dream that does still manage to shock me because of how freaking physically it feels. Last night was one of these occasions. And I am so NOT going to talk about what the dream was about. lol
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 20541 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 09, 2015 11:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: I've just checked with the one guy, although I don't have his birth time. Anubis in the first house. Not conjunct anything in the composite, but it is conjunct my Mars, and square my Moon, Venus, and square our nodes (he isn't much older than I am). It also trines my Uranus in the 12th.
Anubis trine Uranus and square the nodal axis, that is pretty strong. IP: Logged |
Aunt Anomalia Knowflake Posts: 729 From: Pandora's box Registered: Mar 2015
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posted July 09, 2015 04:04 PM
I have no synastry to share but...I've encountered theories like: - dreams are low quality, uncontrolled astral projections - Dreamland is its own plane of existence (an astral subplane?) Which would mean encountering someone for real is possible. I lean towards believeing that it is. From my experience and research, the astral is similar to Dreamland so I think they might be connected. In my late teens I had a really strange dream and I still remember it more or less. It was dark outside. I was running around my elementary school, from floor to floor, and I kept screaming my name and the name of my country, no idea why. Then I appeared in a car with a couple of strangers, I knew they were foreigners and I was convinced they were real people. The guy sitting next to me (I think he was an American) wrote his adress on a piece of paper but I couldn't figure out the words like it often happens in dreams. Suddenly they started disappearing, one by one, just poof. It made me tense. I knew I was about to wake up too. And I woke up indeed.
I wonder if this was the real deal. ------------------ Anomaling around since 1911. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 11668 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 09, 2015 04:28 PM
Sorry for the delay, getting back to this thread!  quote: Originally posted by bansheequeen: Ok this is weird because I never confirmed with them,., haven't talked to them in years actually but I still have dreams and I really truly feel like they experience it too. I recently found out they have almost all the same placements as me even though we were born different years. Same sun, moon, Venus and I think Mars too. And same outer planets...
Wow, did you start dreaming of them before you learned their placements?  Same thing happened to me with Elvis.  I mean, I knew his birthday was near mine but we have a few more tight conjunctions in synastry, plus the same moon sign, and I had no idea. Also I learned things about him in my dreams which were later confirmed for me, when I got into his biographies. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 11668 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 09, 2015 04:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by SaturnFan: Hey Faith,Thanks for sharing the synastry and composite, it so interesting!
Thank you so much for noticing! Yeah, just a quick glance gives you a hmmmmm.... quote: Originally posted by SaturnFan: Not only is your composite Moon in Pisces but it's opposite Pluto! And Neptune, apart from the squares, trines Pluto. A lot of signs for a subconscious connection, obvious even to a newbie like me!
And I would've missed it, actually, if you didn't point it out. I was just staring at the 8H with spirals in my eyes. quote: Originally posted by SaturnFan: Thank you! It's one of the most fascinating things I've ever done!
I believe you. Dreams are amazing and, from what I've heard, Jung was the master at deciphering them. I look forward to exploring that more in the future. Oh! And feel free to share your wisdom here, too, of course  IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 20541 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 09, 2015 04:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia: I have no synastry to share but...I've encountered theories like: - dreams are low quality, uncontrolled astral projections - Dreamland is its own plane of existence (an astral subplane?) Which would mean encountering someone for real is possible. I lean towards believeing that it is. From my experience and research, the astral is similar to Dreamland so I think they might be connected.
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