posted July 09, 2015 04:56 PM            

Karma + DNA

I wonder what my Mars is doing there? Besides talking a lot

Couldn't have met you without that.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I noticed in these dream/astral experiences a frequent occurrence of Anubis at a pivotal place in the composite, usually conjunct an angle, aspecting Sun or Moon or NN and quite often conjunct Neptune.

Does that fit for anyone else, too? Or is that just "my thing"?

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I love your asteroid spidey sense!

My Anubis 15.24 Aries
Pisces man's Anubis 17.08 Aries
So composite Anubis 16.16 Aries

Conjunct my 16.01 Aries Jupiter, my 16.35 draconic Venus and his 14.42 draconic Mars (!!!)

And your draconic sun!!

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posted July 09, 2015 05:09 PM            

His Anubis 16.29 Libra
conjunct Pluto

Opposing my own Anubis.

Composite Anubis 15.56 Cap
conjunct my sun pretty exactly

posted July 09, 2015 05:17 PM            

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Originally posted by threepoolsoflight:
I meant to post this days ago. I had the same dream as an ex-bf once. It was definitely a case of me tapping into his dream and not a shared experience per se. In the dream I was in a band like the Who, and I was the only one not doing drugs. I felt alienated from everyone else. When I woke up I almost laughed because I would never dream of anything like that, and when I told him about it, he looked at me strangely and said he had just been dreaming that. He never believed in anything remotely non-scientific, however. I also had a dream about something in his life that happened too.

Lots of Pisces in both our charts. Funny thing is, I dated a Pisces before him & never had any connection like that.
Anubis conjuncts my mercury in scorpio exact. Maybe that contributes too?
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All so fascinating! Thanks very much for posting. YES, so I see, in your case as well, Pisces sun conjunct moon in synastry.

Actually it was very odd because you posted this the day after I had been wondering for maybe the first time in my life (can't recall 100%) if someone had taken over my mind in my sleep, because the dreamscape was so foreign, in both imagery and feeling.

Hmmm!!!

posted July 09, 2015 05:30 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I've just checked with the one guy, although I don't have his birth time. Anubis in the first house. Not conjunct anything in the composite, but it is conjunct my Mars, and square my Moon, Venus, and square our nodes (he isn't much older than I am). It also trines my Uranus in the 12th.

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WHOA teasel. Impressive composite!!

posted July 09, 2015 05:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
I have no synastry to share but...

I've encountered theories like:
- dreams are low quality, uncontrolled astral projections
- Dreamland is its own plane of existence (an astral subplane?)

Which would mean encountering someone for real is possible. I lean towards believeing that it is. From my experience and research, the astral is similar to Dreamland so I think they might be connected.

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Some of my dreams feel like dreams, jibberish, floating nonsense.

Some feel psychic and usually are.

Some feel like reality and I cannot shake the sense that it really happened. They are hyper-real. They are convincing in every sense, only MORE than usual experiences are convincing.

I mean sometimes we go through life in a zone that allows for some fuzziness, like when you are on the internet talking to people, and things can mean this or that. Sometimes you are actually in real and present danger which expands and takes over your full attention span.

Some of my dreams take up that full, or expanded, attention span...not because of danger but just because my awareness level is so high...and I wake up actually having to narrow my attention back down again, to live a "normal" life.

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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
In my late teens I had a really strange dream and I still remember it more or less. It was dark outside. I was running around my elementary school, from floor to floor, and I kept screaming my name and the name of my country, no idea why. Then I appeared in a car with a couple of strangers, I knew they were foreigners and I was convinced they were real people. The guy sitting next to me (I think he was an American) wrote his adress on a piece of paper but I couldn't figure out the words like it often happens in dreams. Suddenly they started disappearing, one by one, just poof. It made me tense. I knew I was about to wake up too. And I woke up indeed.

I wonder if this was the real deal.

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posted July 09, 2015 05:44 PM            

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I forgot to add that this would be also an unaware projection. The transition process is lost for some reason and even if we realize at some point that we're dreaming, it doesn't occur to us that we're on another plane of existance.

The astral world is the world ruled by emotions, insticts and beliefs, at least its lower part. Perhaps you've noticed that the astral body is sometimes called the emotional body. If dreaming takes place there, it would mean we're at the mercy of the things I mentioned we all carry inside, consciously or not. They shape our dream environment, behavior and plot without us realizing it. Our emotions, thoughts and intentions mostly if not always immediately translate into action in the astral. Things are way more fluid and happen way faster there than here. We can create and modify our environment and form just by thinking about it. While dreaming we'd be stuck in our little, private, chaotic zone (well, unless it's a lucid dream which should reduce the chaos). Two people's zones could merge somehow or one person could be pulled into someone else's zone.

If dreaming is astral travelling, this would also explain the phenomemon of prophetic or psychic dreams. After all psychics pull the info from a higher dimension to their higher body which is later processed by the brain and interpreted. If during dreaming our consciousness is focused on the astral, we are particularly receptive to receiving hidden knowledge (whether we'll notice it is another story).

Whoever is reading this, I hope you can keep up.

posted July 09, 2015 05:54 PM            

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Some of my dreams take up that full, or expanded, attention span...not because of danger but just because my awareness level is so high...and I wake up actually having to narrow my attention back down again, to live a "normal" life.

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Well I keep thinking that I saw on the news an influx of certain people from here going there, and the image is engrained in my head.

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Btw, 2 nights ago I actually dreamt about having an out of body experience. How freaky is that?

posted July 10, 2015 12:33 AM            

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I'm afraid I don't understand what you're trying to say.

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Okay. Let me know if you want me to delete the following?

You posted your chart and I recognized it as another member's, and the "other member" is from a land far far away from America. Last year, I saw that US troops were rolling down the streets of your capital in a caravan of Humvees. Your dream of going outside and meeting an American in a car...pulled up that image for me...as if you climbed into a Humvee and met a US soldier.

Does that make any sense?

It's just weird to me that I have been wondering if you saw what I saw on the news, and the only dream you've shared involved cars and Americans. AS IF you answered my unspoken question with a dream story.

Even though I am not following politics closely, or you that closely, so it may be a coincidental juxtaposition of mistakes. Still I think even those intersections of false impressions creates a true intersection.

I know, I sound weirder than usual.

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posted July 10, 2015 06:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:

My Anubis 15.24 Aries
Pisces man's Anubis 17.08 Aries
So composite Anubis 16.16 Aries

Conjunct my 16.01 Aries Jupiter, my 16.35 draconic Venus and his 14.42 draconic Mars (!!!)

And your draconic sun!!

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Wow!

That is amazing! Did not expect THAT much. lol

No Casino for me, though.
If I tried to do that intentionally, it would not work anymore.
I noticed that I have a knack for materializing things (or visualize something and it sort of becomes reality or is reality, never know which way it really works, do I visualize it first and then it comes true? Or is it already there and I sort of sense it?), but this only works if i donīt put focused effort in it, when it is a little unfocused, almost like thinking of something "in passing". It`s weird.

posted July 10, 2015 07:05 AM            

I love it when you write down my thoughts.

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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
Two people's zones could merge somehow or one person could be pulled into someone else's zone.

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Feels like that, yes.

Well, for me there have always been at least three major states of "consciousness" (possibly four).

1. Being Awake
2. Being asleep
3. "Limboland"

That Limboland-experience sometimes takes place just from asleep-awake, sometimes from awake-asleep and curiously especially when I was younger there was this zoning into Limboland while I was being technically awake and functioning physically normally, but sort of felt like in a semi-trance. It`s difficult to explain

For me the dreamstate and the awakestate have never had a sharply cut line between them, like a switch, on or off, it always felt more of a sliding scale of consciousness to me.

posted July 10, 2015 09:11 AM            

And I didn't say invade. Surely they were merely parading, all in good fun!

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The dream was not about them, it was about this conversation with me, about them.

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And I didn't say invade. Surely they were merely parading, all in good fun!

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Auntie,
I love it when you write down my thoughts.

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I suppose everyone has been to Limboland at least once. If it happens while being technically awake and functioning physically normally like you said, I think it's the result of higher bodies not being fully anchored in the physical body.

posted July 12, 2015 01:18 AM            

Not sure if I should apologize for the delay or apologize for hooking you into a conversation all about me in the first place.

Hopefully I can make this a worthwhile read for you.

First of all, thanks for explaining about Karma. It is interesting that my tropical Karma is in Libra, and Venus is the only planet making conjunctions in ALL my charts:

-Tropical Venus conjunct Neptune
-Helio Venus conjunct Pluto
-Draconic Venus conjunct tropical Jupiter (and draconic Neptune of course.)

So the stage has been set for a lot of Venus/Libra stuff.

Your comments in bold:

Yours is not a very simple chart to analyze.

It's weird; it's the only one I've seen with a t-square in each modality.

But how can a Pisces Moon have egocentricity? It doesn't make much sense for me.

Give her a singleton sun and a Leo ASC trine Venus, that seems to be the solution?? LOL

How strange, you seem to be very different, but at the same time very similar to the way you were before. That's what makes you special, because in the 70%+ of the charts I've seen, the OverSoul seems to have chosen a very different Nature (Tropical) to overcome different Karmas from past times, that's actually very common.
Seems like your True-Self is very sure about yourself.

Thanks! Hmm! An observant friend remarked when getting to know me that I have a certain air about me like, "This is me and you can take it or leave it." Maybe that confirms what you just said. I find it hard to be objective about those kinds of things.

I wonder what would you, Ms Faith, think about the myth of Atlantis.

I like when people mention it! But all I know is that Edgar Cayce says there's a chamber under the Sphinx in Egypt with documents confirming (or from) Atlantis and there are rumors that Elvis was completely Atlantean.

I never try to make others think the way I do, because that would be in fact, kind of oppresive.

LOL !!! Such a cute face.

Jan 6th would be insanely accurate and even funny.

Yeah that's my birthday! Snaps into place with everything else quite well, right?

With Sun conj Vega, (and also a Leo ASC) your current time embodies almost the perfect archtype of a Lyran.

I will have to research. Thank you.

You should have Kama (1387) conj Venus or Neptune, that would make sense.

On my sun. I did look into this:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/202011.html

Aw too bad, my Lust is at 27 Cap, 11 degrees from Kama.

For some reason that I don't know. Reincarnated souls from Atlantis tend to have very strong Isis/Osiris/Kama/Vesta/Kaali etc. Strange, like if Soul Evolution in atlantis was influeced by Trantrik/Kundalini practices (I actually know very few things about such civilization, or at least, I think so ).

So I have Kama at 16 Cap, conjunct my sun very tight...16 being a repetitious degree in my chart, as you see there on page 2. Kaali almost conjunct the NN, just over 2 degrees...Kaali quincunx Chiron. Vesta at 0 Aries aspects a bunch of asteroids and my Saturn. Maybe I was just a minor citizen there?

Your Tropical Karma(3811) has the Sabian Symbol for old past Glories: A retired old Sea Captain.
(More of the same, because this symbol describes not a common captain, but a SEA captain. Let's remember that Lord Poseidon was the one who ruled Atlantis

Oh neat! I sail, and my name also forms lexigrams that have to do with the sea.

You have a very tantric chart.

I have had a tantric experience, only once, but at least I know it's real...

It shouldn't ask you to go instrocpective/reflexive and let behind something like "darkness of fear, egocentricity and dualistic morality", unleast, of course, there's a piece of that in you (Personally, I've never sensed a bit of it while reading your posts) So, the big question is WHY???

Oh I used to have that...dualistic morality. I used to be much different. I did let it go.

Your NN is just 1 degree ahead the Serpentis degree.
-There's no way we can give a possible interpretation about such degree in someone's natal without taking a look at (55555)DNA.

My DNA 7 Cap
My son's moon 7 Cap
My daughter's MC 7 Cap
Tr Mercury when my mother died 7 Cap

Hm, interesting, my husband's draconic Mars at 9 Cap; meanwhile his DNA is conjunct my draconic moon and tropical Saturn. His DNA meets my moon-Saturn?? That is almost too literally asking for me to bear his children.

His draconic DNA is conjunct my tropical 5H Neptune, all snug and tight.

At a certain point you will have to deal with strong Reptilian/Vampiric genes. How? I don't know... but I wouldn't mention it, if 19 Scorpio wasn't there.

Makes sense but for reasons too hard to explain.

That's why you have Pisces Moon and Gemini Mars right now ( also a Capricorn Sun). According to the wheel of life, Pisces is the most evolved of water signs, so is Gemini for the Air element.

Never heard that wheel of life before, but I suppose I lucked out then....

I theorize there are some ways to accomplish the task of your NN.

^^ Thanks a lot for the advice you gave me in this section.

Depending on where is your (55555)DNA and what the Sabian symbols tell us about it, we could find the best clue about why your OverSoul have decided to choose such North Nothe for this incarnation.

Sabian for 8 Capricorn: A huge living room in an old fashioned mansion is flooded with sunlight and the canaries are singing loudly.

OMG.......

That makes such perfect sense for my DNA. If you are reading ~ and if you only have time to remark on one part of this ~ would you kindly give me your guess, about why my soul chose this NN? I just have to see it coming from someone else...

If you are somehow connected [(55555)DNA)] to more Ancient degrees, then I would mean that you have to deal with even those scaled folks that existed way before Atlantis.

Ah, it doesn't look too ancient, does it? There's a real living room there.

But I do often talk about wanting to be in touch with ancient, atavistic things, and try to hold onto wisdom that's been discarded, but it still perfectly serviceable...still has life in it.

Cannot thank you enough, this was so much fun to explore, trying to hop along behind your trains of thought!

posted July 12, 2015 01:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Anubis though is not so much always a sign of telepathy, but more so of astral connections/ travel. Of course the distinction might be up to debate.

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Hi Ceri! I owe you email, I'm sorry.

^^ This ought to be my signature here.

Anyway this friend and I, we don't do astral travel in my sleep. It's just the psychic link which is not mental so much as energetic...well, and a few other things.

posted July 16, 2015 12:42 AM            

okay,
Dear Faith.

Well, where do I begin...
Hmm, 1st of all I... I... think I said pretty much everything I could say, mmm as I said I don't think it's necessary to continue derailing threads lol
2nd - You don't really have to thank me, because I don't give clues or help (or something) in order to receive x thing in return... why? uuhh as I'm writing this stuff I eventually explain below lol so, I could continue with this, saying 2-3 things about aspects/placements but I... feel like it's not really that necessary and that I said pretty much everything I could ...

Hmm... since you are very considerate to write some lines back I think I can make an effort to contain the embarrasment and continue with 4-5 more lines of more off-topic lol

<<< That's why you have Pisces Moon and Gemini Mars right now ( also a Capricorn Sun). According to the wheel of life, Pisces is the most evolved of water signs, so is Gemini for the Air element. >>>
// " Never heard that wheel of life before, but I suppose I lucked out then... " //

This deserves some lines so, here goes.
Wheel of life, Zodiac wheel, samsara wheel, etc all of them share something in common: The path to improvement, Spiritual Growth. This, of course, can be seen in the 12 Houses of a natal chart.
Sadly, everything indicates that the 12 houses have been 'hijacked' somehow through the sands of time, hence, our perception about Personal Growth and Astrologic accuracy. Must add, that the idea of the 12 Houses being modified/shuffled is known/postuladed by... few fellows astrologers ( lol, nothing new there ), so I think I can officially say that I joined them (or at least I share the same thoughts). Btw, one of those dudes is Carl Payne Tobey.
So, what is this all about? 1st. the 12 signs have been known by mankind way before Egypt, Abraham, etc and what they can tell us have went from self-knowledge to foretelling, Karmic evaluation and a huge etc. But it seems like at first, the Zodiac wheel probably was a method used to explain the evolutionary path of all human beings, which actually embodies all methods of interpretation for what we know as Zodiac.
Now, here comes the stuff that may sound 'awful' for some, but it's not like that at all because astrology was never meant to establish some kind of differenciation between people. Such low intentions were also absolutely lacking in the first practicioners of Astrology ( That's why it comes from ASTRO - LOGOS ) and I'm just gonna write it because it's in the middle of a huge wall-text lol so, hopefully the ones that may think I say these things because I want to hurt someone or because I want to appear more "smart" (facepalm) don't read it.
The first step in everyone's path is described in the act of Gestation/Pregnancy & Conception. In the stars, the Sign of Cancer is used to describe this step, the Zodiac bestiary is very clear when explaining this stuff. So for the water element, the journey begins with the desciption of that cute Crustaceans, how would the Zodiac Bestiary describe the next Step, with a more evolved acuatic being like Arachnids are, and finally the Sea Mammals like Whales and Dolphins. To not increase the amount of lines here I'm just gonna jump to Air to describe Gem, which is the Sign of your Mars. Here's when we (the "herectic astrologers") disagree with the utra-hyper-mega orthodox mates... haha lol (I don't mean it) ok, let's continue.
Because, the only Sign that describes the interaction of two Human Beings is the Sign of Gemini, because the Zodiac Bestiary is tellin us about the final reunion with our other self. Okay, That's it ( yay! I can be brief! ) This of course, may sound kind of revolutionary, but it's not so; it's just a way to re-discover some principles. Anyone that would be interesed in this 'new' astrologic perspective should be a little discret, just my advice; because, I don't say this to scare people, but in fact the history of what we know as Hermetism, Gnosis and a big etc was never clear. For many obvious reasons the presence of a twisted hand that firmly believes it must control our lives and what is necessary for us to achieve little fragments of truth is more than evident.
My personal thoughts about how to overcome this would be: That a lot of authenticity and honesty are needed. Because when you just share something, even a few words, if people doesn't notice you say it because you really believe what your words express... probably 'that energy' will take the lead again; by trying to convince you through bad feelings. Well, you don't really need someone whispering you at your ear what to do if you have allowed bad feelings such as fear, envy, anger, being petty, etc to enter in your heart, and manipulate your perception. Certainly, is in great fault the one that doesn't listen because of allowing fear in oneself. "What if this have been said ony to hurt me? what if this have been said because I'm hated? What if this have been said because who says it wants to gain power over others?" Never think that way. Everyone has the same value and deserves the same respect as others, there's no relevance in the "steps" or in the path we have chosen to follow. Stop seeing the chart as if it were something absolute and definitive. If you were born with some red line that you don't like, who says it is permanent? With what Authority claims it is so? You have already changed, every day you are doing so, that's what progressions are for, they tell us about our biological changes and also personal growth, there's nothing unbeding and fixed that is "oh I got this and it's forever" The universe is not linear, just as this earth is not flat. And whoever thinks that way, sadly, I'd have to say that person is highly mistaken, because if you think you are in a fixed reality that's so 1D 2D (unidimensional) it's probably because you are conditioning yourself to live in that state.
It's also in fault, the one that wants to "teach" or just "express something" in order to gain 'other something'. To expect some kind of price, respect, reputation and a huge etc, where's the merit if what comes out of your mouth and heart is product of your own ambitions? - " When I want to communicate something, I do it with my heart open and say what I really feel and what I really am; not to change the way of thinking others have, or to make them believe I am "X" when I am not. No, I only say what comes out from my heart. And when I listen I don't give my own interpretation about what I'm hearing so, when the time to tell others what I've learned comes, I don't alter it by adding words that are product of my own perception, with concepts that I've personally interpreted. Because when what it's needed to be learned finally reaches a third person, it wouldn't be the original message. So, when I'm really willing to receive some information, I open my heart instead of my ears or eyes. To understand another way of feeling/thinking and that's when I finally comprehend. I cannot comprehend by seeing everything from my own perspective, I can only comprehend when I see from the other's. Same happens when I want to express something, I expect others to view things from my own perspective, that's no other thing than my heart"

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posted July 16, 2015 01:01 AM            

~ There's certainly many typos, but well, what can I do? I go berserk when I type if by any chance there's still a pending 'something' you can always 'thread me' with a @GemBird and I'll be glad to blah, blah, blah a lot lot whenever I have the time.

And don't worry yourselves with some 'courtesy' or stuff like that, if I don't reply something it's most of the times because I have NO answer/ something to say. Or because I didn't have the opportunity to read it, lol I couldn't imagine myself not replying to a thread just because I got "scorned" or "annoyed", I don't really... mind if I'm being ignored or not. I think I never notice that stuff, I guess I'm very bad at it... seems like I wasn't programmed for sarcasm and indirects lol

If you would want to make feel something weird as anger, fear or sadness lol I'll gladly tell you the way.

~ You just have to steal away from me... my Pineapple Jam !
( which is one of my most beloved treasures I own in this life lol )

posted July 16, 2015 01:56 AM            

I have some catching up to do here, but the reason I wanted to post is that I actually had a dream about you and your family 2 nights ago. You were sitting with your son and daughter at an outdoor concrete table in a backyard with woods all around you. All 3 of you had auburn red hair. Yours was in a braid, your daughter's hair was pulled back in a bun and she had on glasses with red frames(a la Sally Jesse Raphael). She was tween age, around 12. Your son was maybe around 8 or so, and looked like a young John Lennon. There was no real plot of the dream, you were just sitting there talking and laughing. It was late in the afternoon.

I had a separate dream afterwards involving some sort of skin condition, with sun sensitivity. I don't know if it was connected or not.

It's probably just my subconscious reminding me to revisit this thread, but I thought I'd share my dream.

posted July 16, 2015 11:29 AM            

Don't want to keep you here for infinite conversation.

@BlueJay

Cannot wait to see your story!

And how funny that you dreamed about me

Yes, my rural house is surrounded by woods and sometimes we picnic on a huge rock (somewhat like a concrete table) in the center of it.

My daughter IS twelve but she doesn't look like that. She has blonde curly hair, no glasses.

I have a 10 year-old son with Libra sun, Mars, and node, like John Lennon. Both have Virgo Venus and Scorpio Mercury as well. Lennon has a Cap MC, my son has a Cap ASC. Yes there's a resemblance...

....With the big eyes and same face shape.

And my son is handsome like that. He's blonder, though.

Hmmm, now I'm curious about Sally Jesse Raphael...

OK, she is from an area near our rural house.
Her Mars is almost exactly conjunct my daughter's Mars. I think that is major; I put a lot of value in Mars-Mars conjunctions. And her moon is probably conjunct one of my daughter's Scorpio or Sag planets.

You are officially a psychic dreamer.