posted August 19, 2015 09:54 PM            

Draconic conjunction with tropical overlay

posted August 19, 2015 09:57 PM            

Are these conjunctions activated by transits, and in what way?

posted August 19, 2015 10:14 PM            

My draconic sun, Jupiter, Pluto and Chiron are all I have to work with.

As noted on the thread I linked to above, I highly value a friend whose dr Sun is conjunct my dr Sun.

In neither chart is the dr Sun conjunct a tropical planet or angle. It's possible that the quality of our time has been affected by transits...tr SN on our dr Sun conjunction definitely coincided with some incredible phenomena.

posted August 20, 2015 09:16 AM            

I would look at the tropical synastry relationship theme first.

Then I would look at tropical to natal to see another layer of the tropical synastry theme and how it is located in the other' life path.

Then I would look to draco/draco for yet another layer of the same theme. I think this part of the analysis shows the alignment of the two life paths within the theme.

My thread about draco/draco here:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000903.html

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted August 20, 2015 09:27 AM            

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted August 20, 2015 08:06 PM            

What I really don't get is whether or not draconic is:

a) Who we are, and the tropical charts are "what our parents shaped us into" ~ an idea espoused by YouTube astrologer Aylssa Sharp, or

b) What we have to *work* to attain, being born as our tropical charts, or

c) If it's just the process of bringing everything full circle, uncovering what was buried, integrating both together.

That's one area of confusion.

The other thing is, how do we approach this in synastry readings? I don't want to go amiss and challenge the majority by saying, "Draconic conjunctions in synastry have power in themselves." I'm just not sure how to frame it so it's in alignment with a general consensus, especially since I haven't read all the links on it yet.

I like your wording and may just cut and paste, ascribing the quote to you, to deflect pressure off of me and make you take responsibility since you have more credibility here.

posted August 22, 2015 03:17 PM            

I know that attach a lot of importance to rumbles, in my own life. Usually I pay more attention to subtleties than what's happening more obviously.

posted August 22, 2015 06:57 PM            

Now there is a puzzle.

Also I'm a Capricorn sun with my SN in the 10H.

Wherever I go, it's somehow the wrong way.

posted August 22, 2015 07:27 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
You mean draco to draco?

I would look at the tropical synastry relationship theme first.

Then I would look at tropical to natal to see another layer of the tropical synastry theme and how it is located in the other' life path.

Then I would look to draco/draco for yet another layer of the same theme. I think this part of the analysis shows the alignment of the two life paths within the theme.

My thread about draco/draco here:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000903.html

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I tend to see things the same. I think natal to natal tropical synastry makes up the bones of our relationship... The structure we have to build upon. This basic foundation needs to be strong in the first place in order to for the relationship to be sustainable.

Draco to draco, or draco to tropical, synastry shows how we can influence each other's development over time in either a challenging or harmonious way. With this we're able to add to the already existing foundation of the relationship, and grow into new and different ways of being. This type of synastry shows how we support each other in growth this growth.

With terrible tropical synastry and good Draconic synastry, we might struggle in the relationship. But even if it ends badly we might look back at our mistakes and see that we learned a good lesson from it. With good tropical synastry and not so connected draconic synastry, we might be content with the relationship, but find that we need to find our growth in other areas (like educating our selves, or joining a group). The exception to his would be if we have conjunctions to our North Node in tropical synastry. A conjunction to the North Node indicates growth regardless of the draco stuff.

I tend to think our tropical natal chart indicates our basic personality. Our core structure in this life.

Whereas the draco indicates what we're growing towards. Deep down we know we need to develop in this way and as we learn and grow we with move closer to our draco positions. When a person hits these positions they activate our growth. It's kind of like a navamsa chart in Vedic astrology. It shows where we're headed.

The tropical chart is always the core of our personality though. After all, the draco chart is only our chart according to our North Node. But we could also look at our chart from the point of view of any planet in our chart. Our tropical natal chart is the base we have to build from. I once read an article about looking at our chart as if Venus were at zero Aries to see our 'relationship chart'. So considering this, the draco is sort of like a divisional chart in Vedic astrology. It shows the growth part of our personality, but we could also look at the communication part (Mercury), or the relationship part (Venus). Or even the transformation part (Pluto). If we make Pluto zero Aries, every person still has an individual chart because of the changing personal planets... Our personal Plutonic chart might be quite interesting to see actually. All of these charts would be derived from our original tropical natal chart. Like divisional charts in Vedic astrology, they may reveal one certain aspect of our lives. But the base of our personality is still our tropical chart (where all these other charts are calculated from in the first place).

posted August 22, 2015 10:11 PM            

And thanks Aubyanne.

Both of you explain it clearly and convincingly. It's only a matter of being able to see that and feel how it's being applied, in my own life first, so I get a real internal sense of the process.

And as I wrote above, that's complicated by my draconic sun being so close to my south node.

And the fact that so much of my draconic chart already overlays the tropical.

But I trust it will all become clearer in time.