posted May 13, 2010 10:17 AM            

what is a cascading trine?

Have fun making music today.

Ami,

in some sense it was simiiliar to my family. Well, emotions weren`t "forbidden", but the excessive expression of them. Like laughing too loud or without apparent reason, or being angry in a temperamental way (actually as a child I used to get fits of anger some times, and usually my mother would sent me to my room to "calm down" and "come back again if you have calmed down").
I understand that it wasn`t always easy to deal with my "fits", and I love my mother to bits and we actually have a good relation, but this sharp contrast between her Virgo placements and my Sagittarius placements were pretty painful as a child.

The irony is that she also later on often complained that I didn`t seem "happy" or "outgoing".

posted May 13, 2010 02:50 PM            

That trine means that for me BML is directly connected with Venus issues (including style and my sexual identity as a female). Feeling Venus automatically makes me feel BML and vice versa.

So it wasn't until I (my Sun) was at ease with my BML, that I could be at ease with my Venus.

BML is in my 11th house, which fits with me needing to expand my Venus comfort zone from the narrow confines of my bed to society.

Perhaps connected to this, my SO has his BML exactly cnj my MC. I think of the IC as what we are on the inside and the MC as where we bring our inside out into the world. From soul to social. So his BML on my MC could show how with him I strengthen the external expression of my BML.

We also have mutual BML-Sun trines. This helps me, since natally I have those two in a square.

Natally we both have BML-Venus trines, which shows we both like a BML influence in relationships and that my female sexuality matches up with how he likes a woman to be. My BML is also solstice cnj his Venus, to the minute.

Last but not least, my BML is cnj his Sun/Moon mp and his Vertex. I think all of this shows how he's cool with BML in general, and how my BML impacts him in particular.

posted May 13, 2010 03:12 PM            

"My BML is also solstice cnj his Venus, to the minute."

that sounds so super hot and deep. Penetrating so to speak.

posted May 13, 2010 03:21 PM            

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Black Moon Lilith/Sun aspects
Harmonious: The Sun partner will flood the Lilith partner with magical sunbeams, amping up their power. The Lilith partner will inspire creativity in the Sun partner, making them feel like a King or Queen.
Stressful: The Sun partner will feel their ego undermined by a manipulative Lilith. Lilith could feel dominated and crushed by a bossy Sun and respond by attempting to darken their light

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posted May 13, 2010 03:34 PM            

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Jane,

"My BML is also solstice cnj his Venus, to the minute."

that sounds so super hot and deep. Penetrating so to speak.

Along with the other connections of course, esp. BML and Mars in 8th house. O la la. Do you ever get out of bed?

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DD
Your Lilith is showing.

posted December 09, 2013 06:19 PM            

"However, this happens to me frequently, so I don't know. My Lilith is in the 9th and conjuncts my NN, trines my ascendant, sextiles my Venus, and squares my Pluto. She also opposes my Saturn. Sexual taboos and philosophies and breaking them, and then sharing the experiences, have played a monumental role in my life. So, I am not sure if maybe the way Lilith is engaged in our own chart tends to become accentuated in synastry. For me, it's been a lot about sexuality. I know Lilith is associated with this anyway to an extent, but I just wonder if it's magnified in some way with the aspects, you know?"

Don't know if anyone's checking this thread but...interesting MyVirgoMask. I have same configuration. BML in Capricorn conjunct North Node, opposite Saturn and square Pluto, Sun & ASC and trine my Mars.

Hmmm....I had no idea it was so prevalent in my synastry but looking back, it sure is there. Whew! ;}

Wonder what it means for a female when natally it's conjunct the North Node? I'm guessing that the Saturn opposite can make it hard to express earlier in life (was for me!) but when that energy is finally activated...watch out!! ;}

posted September 22, 2015 12:15 PM            

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Originally posted by staborgi:
I think it goes both ways? But I think its "colored" by the planet if, if you're the planet person. So if its the Moon (I've been the moon in an interaspect) it feels very emotional, very deep down to the soul. I felt like the Lilith person was someone I admired but was intimidated by emotionally. I feel like the Lilith person literally becomes Lilith here and wants to have those Lilith experiences with the planet person, i.e. being interested sexually but in a way that burns to the core of things and is a totally intuitive. recognition I also think the planet person picks up on the Lilith of the other person from where it stands in their chart. My Lilith is in the 5th in Leo. Almost everyone I know whose had a hard aspect to my Lilith has at some point commented on my "getting attention," especially at parties, from children, or romantically. This is something that although I hate to admit it (it IS Lilith after all) is a big insecurity of mine so it means something to me and I feel powerful when I get it. Lilith is also supposed to be the point through which we experience the flow of the universe so it can be very empowering and attractive. The fact that the planet people notice, somehow makes me feel powerful in our relationship but in a way that again, is forbidden and touches on something deep in me (i.e. there have been circumstances in my life that had made those Lilith areas touchy but also important to me) and empowering.The guy who I mentioned earlier where my Moon was conjunct his Lilith- it's in Cap, so his career standing and reputation are something I was very impressed and intimidated by and I know those things meant a lot to him. He seemed to not want to admit this but he also actively pursued those domains and felt empowered by reaching his goals in them and certainly by my acknowledgement there.

That's just my experience. But to answer your question more concisely, I think both people are interested in different ways. I think the Lilith person is interested in how the planet person puts them in touch with their personal taboos that might be the key to their feeling the flow of things within themselves, potentially highlighting areas they don't want to admit they care about but are the key to them feeling whole. And I think the planet person feels it but more so in terms of putting them in touch with the deeper issues of their planet. I do think though, that the planet person (at least with hard aspects) experiences a level of threat or intimidation from the Lilith person, particularly because from what I've noticed, we do go after our Liliths, becoming kind of "experts" in their domains but we just don't want to admit it. Also, it feels like theres a simultaneous urge to spill everything you have ever felt insecure about in the domain of the planet as related to Lilith but also to run or take it back. So maybe Lilith is more willing to admit their sexual interest and experiences it more at the forefront. This is just a hypothesis based on my experiences though. And I definitely think its a push/pull thing. The more the planet person spills the more Lilith seems to get interested in my experience.

Whoa this was a long ramble but it made me think about my Lilith experiences and I think I'm getting it now? Although I wonder if this makes sense to anyone but me! lol

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posted September 22, 2015 01:51 PM            

From what I've read and understood with lilith, i believe she is defined as an INDEPENDENT, REBELLIOUS, STRONG, FEMINIST, RAW SEXUAL & ASEXUAL INDIRECT DOMININA SELFISH, FEMALE. she is equal to adam and any other living being in the world.

i believe the lilith in the female chart is going to represent our shadow, independence, in direct dominance, our raw sexuality, mysterious side, rebellious nature, selfish side and that type of lilith in our natal chart will depend on the quality of it, is it aspecting our ASC? our DESC? our MOON? is it in capricorn? in aquarius? is it in the 1st house? is it making any other connection to juno? or any other love asteroid?

it also depends on the gender as well and what our sexual orientation is.

i 100% believe that the obsession is coming from the PLANET person WHY????? because lilith doesnt care about you that's why. she's independent and she is gonna do whatever she wants, she is gonna love you when she feels like it and vice versa. Our lilith as women in our own chart's is our INDIRECT DOMININA and our own FREEDOM OF POWER. lilith is not obsessed but she can be when she WANTS to be, she is in control.

now with the angles im not quite sure about that i have to meditate more on this. but is there a strong attraction with the planet person YES in my opinion i do believe lilith finds the planet person intriguing and attractive and represents a small part of our own lilith, its almost like mirroring but depending on the planet we are using and the sign and house its in. but in the end of the day the planet owner is the one that is obsessed, fascinated, and wrapped around lilith's finger indirectly. Again it depends on the gender and sexual orientation this is just IMO.

posted September 22, 2015 03:52 PM            

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Originally posted by angel4845:
This is my intake in synastry with lilith.

From what I've read and understood with lilith, i believe she is defined as an INDEPENDENT, STRONG, FEMINIST, RAW SEXUAL & ASEXUAL DOMININA FEMALE. she is equal to adam and any other person in the world.

i believe the lilith in all of us is going to represent our shadow, independence, dominance, our raw sexuality, mysterious side and that type of lilith in our natal chart will depend on the quality of it, is it aspecting our ASC? our DESC? our MOON? is it in capricorn? in aquarius? is it in the 1st house? is it making any other connection to juno? or any other love asteroid?

it also depends on the gender as well and what our sexual orientation is.

i 100% believe that the obsession is coming from the PLANET person WHY????? because lilith doesnt care about you that's why. she's independent and she is gonna do whatever she wants, she is gonna love you when she feels like it and vice versa. Our lilith as women is our DOMININA and our own FREEDOM OF POWER. lilith is not obsessed but she can be when she WANTS to be, she is in control.

now with the angles im not quite sure about that i have to meditate more on this. but is there a strong attraction with the planet person YES in my opinion i do believe lilith finds the planet person intriguing and attractive and represents a small part of our own lilith, its almost like mirroring but depending on the planet we are using and the sign and house its in. but in the end of the day the planet owner is the one that is obsessed, fascinated, and wrapped around lilith's finger.

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posted September 22, 2015 04:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Selenite:
I have to disagree slightly based on experience. My friend's bml conjunct my Moon, my ex's BML exactly on my Sun, and my BML exactly on someone's DC. Well I think it depends on how well the other person can handle their obsessive tendencies.. In the case of my friend, yes she does care, way too much, about me and my opinion and basically objectifies me. My emotional reactions affect her to the extreme. But she's also very obsessive to begin with. I think what you're saying describes an evolved Lilith, one who has made it past the 'rejection' stage, and realized her true power.

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posted September 22, 2015 04:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Selenite:
I have to disagree slightly based on experience. My friend's bml conjunct my Moon, my ex's BML exactly on my Sun, and my BML exactly on someone's DC. Well I think it depends on how well the other person can handle their obsessive tendencies.. In the case of my friend, yes she does care, way too much, about me and my opinion and basically objectifies me. My emotional reactions affect her to the extreme. But she's also very obsessive to begin with. I think what you're saying describes an evolved Lilith, one who has made it past the 'rejection' stage, and realized her true power.

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posted September 22, 2015 04:27 PM            

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Originally posted by angel4845:
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Do you even know the story? Tell me WHAT IS LILITH? Who is she? I would love to have a debate on this.

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posted September 22, 2015 07:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Selenite:
I am Lilith Hahaha.
But I don't see what there is to debate about her, and I also don't have time.

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well as i can see you certainly had the time to respond back to me but okay i respect your opinion, even though i' m afraid to say that i disagree, which is why i had asked your understanding and views behind the story of lilith.

posted September 22, 2015 08:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Selenite:
I have to disagree slightly based on experience. My friend's bml conjunct my Moon, my ex's BML exactly on my Sun, and my BML exactly on someone's DC. Well I think it depends on how well the other person can handle their obsessive tendencies.. In the case of my friend, yes she does care, way too much, about me and my opinion and basically objectifies me. My emotional reactions affect her to the extreme. But she's also very obsessive to begin with. I think what you're saying describes an evolved Lilith, one who has made it past the 'rejection' stage, and realized her true power.

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lilith was equal to adam from the get go. yes she was rejected by god and adam and the angels but she as well rejected god's wishes as her purpose was to obviously create human society with adam and follow god's orders. but lilith was always equal to adam from the very beginning. and yes it does depend how the person handles there obsessions and urges and temptations and such. "realized her true power"?? she was always aware of her own power but more so her rebellious nature, if she wasnt aware of her own power and own feelings of worth she would have let adam screw her, done what god had told her what her purpose is, and WOULDVE not respect her own feelings of worth in that moment, she was not in a place to let herself submit when adam demanded her to in order to fulfill god's wishes. she rebelled against god and tried to control god directly but was obviously unable to.

posted April 28, 2016 07:38 AM            

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Originally posted by angel4845:
This is my intake in synastry with lilith.

From what I've read and understood with lilith, i believe she is defined as an INDEPENDENT, REBELLIOUS, STRONG, FEMINIST, RAW SEXUAL & ASEXUAL INDIRECT DOMININA SELFISH, FEMALE. she is equal to adam and any other living being in the world.

i believe the lilith in the female chart is going to represent our shadow, independence, in direct dominance, our raw sexuality, mysterious side, rebellious nature, selfish side and that type of lilith in our natal chart will depend on the quality of it, is it aspecting our ASC? our DESC? our MOON? is it in capricorn? in aquarius? is it in the 1st house? is it making any other connection to juno? or any other love asteroid?

it also depends on the gender as well and what our sexual orientation is.

i 100% believe that the obsession is coming from the PLANET person WHY????? because lilith doesnt care about you that's why. she's independent and she is gonna do whatever she wants, she is gonna love you when she feels like it and vice versa. Our lilith as women in our own chart's is our INDIRECT DOMININA and our own FREEDOM OF POWER. lilith is not obsessed but she can be when she WANTS to be, she is in control.

now with the angles im not quite sure about that i have to meditate more on this. but is there a strong attraction with the planet person YES in my opinion i do believe lilith finds the planet person intriguing and attractive and represents a small part of our own lilith, its almost like mirroring but depending on the planet we are using and the sign and house its in. but in the end of the day the planet owner is the one that is obsessed, fascinated, and wrapped around lilith's finger indirectly. Again it depends on the gender and sexual orientation this is just IMO.

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I am researching Lilith and saw this in the search in the Astrology 2.0 where it was originally posted. When I read your post I had to comment but to find this post in IA was a bit of a bi*@$. Lol

The part about Lilith being in control even when she chooses to be obsessed she can choose to not be.

Exactly! I have her parallel my ASC but I'm trying to figure out how she operates there and your post reminded me of a story.

Recently, a guy I'm friends with told me to be wary of another guy. It took me a minute to understand why he was telling me. When I realised he was in fact warning me, I was ****** . The idea he had of me ****** me off. I said to him "You underestimate me! You really think HE could harm me?! You have no idea what you are suggesting. Him?! I could chew him up and spit him out without a second thought. I've had a so called BDSM Master, who was actively trying to control me, crying and explaining all the ills of his life to me within a week. I do not need your protection."

Lol a bit dramatic huh? But it still ****** me off that he would think some male could ruin me. Hah! Don't make me laugh. (Or rage.)

posted April 28, 2016 10:55 AM            

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Originally posted by KoreAbyss:
I am researching Lilith and saw this in the search in the Astrology 2.0 where it was originally posted. When I read your post I had to comment but to find this post in IA was a bit of a bi*@$. Lol

The part about Lilith being in control even when she chooses to be obsessed she can choose to not be.

Exactly! I have her parallel my ASC but I'm trying to figure out how she operates there and your post reminded me of a story.

Recently, a guy I'm friends with told me to be wary of another guy. It took me a minute to understand why he was telling me. When I realised he was in fact warning me, I was ****** . The idea he had of me ****** me off. I said to him "You underestimate me! You really think HE could harm me?! You have no idea what you are suggesting. Him?! I could chew him up and spit him out without a second thought. I've had a so called BDSM Master, who was actively trying to control me, crying and explaining all the ills of his life to me within a week. I do not need your protection."

Lol a bit dramatic huh? But it still ****** me off that he would think some male could ruin me. Hah! Don't make me laugh. (Or rage.)

Excellent post, Angel. Very helpful!

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