posted January 13, 2009 09:23 AM            

"Lilith is often ANGRY though she can represent the resolution of conflicts. She is an daemon of raw, instinctual wisdom, power and sexual autonomy. Her stories are diverse and sometimes terrifying. In all cases, she is unique in her refusal to relinquish her power. As the first wife of Adam, she left the garden and was outcast as a demoness when she wanted to switch positions or make love side by side. Adam had to be on top.

Lilith bows down to no man yet is willing to share her tantric arts with him. In many cases, man violently rejects her, projecting onto her his repressed and demonic fears of dark feminine power. This turns her into an outcast, explosive with rage and bent on retaliation.

Lilith's symbol is like a hand and can be considered a beckon, a salutation, or perhaps a dire warning, depending on how she is approached. What intention do we have in mind when we meet with this dark goddess?

This is a question that BOTH of you must ask, all the time. It doesn’t just resolve or go away!

We all have her plutonic quality in us, the unconscious energy that brings up harsh boundaries between life and death, ecstasy and suffering, passion and revulsion, enslavement and freedom. How do we honor Lilith in our lives? Do we exile her from consciousness or build her a sanctuary for potent, creative expression? When she contacts Chiron (and Venus) these issues come “home” into the heart of the relationship."

Here's the link with the whole discussion: http://erosastrology.proboards26.com/index.cgi?board=syn&action=display&thread=375

posted January 13, 2009 09:49 AM            

-my Jupiter conjunct his Lilith
-his Jupiter conjunct my Lilith
-my Jupiter conjunct his Jupiter
-my Lilith conjunct his Lilith
(so DW conjunct each other!)

it took 2 years to fully break up after we felt things weren't quite alright. even 6 years after we finally broke up, we still keep in contact, caring for each other.

with one boy who i had a short affair with

-my Lilith conjunct his Venus/Moon/MC

in this case i think he was more obsessed of me than the other way around. i was pretty fascinated but kept a cool head and it went away rather fast as well...

another old boyfriend
-his Lilith conjunct my Vertex
-My Lilith square his Pluto

I think we were as obsessed, but mine lasted longer.

and one guy i'm still obsessed of

-my Lilith square his Venus (and within 3 degrees is his Sun, Mercury and Karma)
-his Lilith conjunct my Uranus
-his Lilith semi-square my Venus

this one is not necessarily mutual. he thinks that i'm a very special friend more than others but isn't "obsessed" of me.

posted January 13, 2009 10:07 AM            

-my Lilith conjunct his AC
-his Lilith conjunct my Sun

i'm not sure if he is attracted to me as a girl, but er, i seem to be regarded as rather enigmatic and mysterious, because i was sort of a scenester and also still write for a zine there. he seems to have a respect for me in this regard. i also, because he is wise and has survived/ing a strange life. we seems to both mystify each other.

lastly, with someone who is very close yet has had a very negative effect on my life overall.

-her Lilith conjunct my Vertex

posted May 10, 2010 04:03 AM            

I also read this which seems kind of spot on! I think the only thing it kind of is "missing" at least to me is that Lilith is super sexual and in my experiences so far a lot of these planet to Lilith interactions have to do with sharing deep secrets, darker/taboo parts of our personality/things we're potentially ashamed about, and somehow its related to sex. It might be because my Lilith aspects Pluto in the 7th that my experiences with it all seem so sexually infused (not necessarily in terms of consummating the act, but definitely talking about it) but in any case, that has been my experience thus far.

posted May 10, 2010 04:36 AM            

That's just my experience. But to answer your question more concisely, I think both people are interested in different ways. I think the Lilith person is interested in how the planet person puts them in touch with their personal taboos that might be the key to their feeling the flow of things within themselves, potentially highlighting areas they don't want to admit they care about but are the key to them feeling whole. And I think the planet person feels it but more so in terms of putting them in touch with the deeper issues of their planet. I do think though, that the planet person (at least with hard aspects) experiences a level of threat or intimidation from the Lilith person, particularly because from what I've noticed, we do go after our Liliths, becoming kind of "experts" in their domains but we just don't want to admit it. Also, it feels like theres a simultaneous urge to spill everything you have ever felt insecure about in the domain of the planet as related to Lilith but also to run or take it back. So maybe Lilith is more willing to admit their sexual interest and experiences it more at the forefront. This is just a hypothesis based on my experiences though. And I definitely think its a push/pull thing. The more the planet person spills the more Lilith seems to get interested in my experience.

posted May 10, 2010 04:56 AM            

There is the Lilith in the astro.com menu.

There is the Lilith (1181) asteroid in the astro.com -- asteroid list.

Then there are:

1. Osculating Lunar Apogee ("True" Lilith / Black Moon) ---- h13

2. Interpolated Lunar Apogee (Lilith), also called 'Natural Apogee' ---- h21

3. Waldemath Black Moon ---- h58

These can be found under "List of other horoscope factors and "hypothetical" planets" -- also on astro.com