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Topic: Valentine and Asteroid 111111- Lets look at their composite and discuss
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8184 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted October 04, 2015 11:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: ^Perhaps but actually there are no cinderalla aspects bc chiron is SQUARING moon and pluto:"Cinderella linkages are enhancement angles (conjunction, trine, quincunx, parallel, contra-parallel) within Magi orbs of the following: Venus/Chiron, Jupiter/Chiron, Neptune/Chiron, Pluto/Chiron. Cinderella transits include the preceding, as well as transiting Chiron in enhancement aspects to natal Sun or Moon, or the brief transits of Sun or Moon to natal Chiron." IDK its a beautiful chart but with a warning sign of Saturn squaring Chiron is how I see it. "Two persons form a Heartbreak Clash when one person’s natal Saturn makes a square, quincunx, opposition or contra-parallel to the other person’s natal Chiron. Heartbreak Clashes can be formed in either the geocentric or Heliocentric charts. When two persons form the Heartbreak Clash in their charts, and also have Romantic Linkages, they could think they are in love, but the most common outcome is heartbreak for one or both. There are two distinct stages of a Heartbreak Clash. The first stage is the Illusion Stage during which time the Heartbreak Clash will push the two persons close together and deceive both of them into thinking they are in love based on illusions about each other. The second stage is the Heartbreak Stage, during which time the Heartbreak Clash dissolves the illusions, pushes the couple out of love, and prevents each person from giving the other the benefit of the doubt."
I wonder what it is that sits opposed to Chiron to give the stability and strength that keeps us working to resolve this pain....I just think in the TF there will be a strong placement that provides the stability and strength to keep going. It maybe we won't find these answers now, maybe you in your next life will find it. The fact is we don't have all the answers, things are only unfolding for us at the rate that we are able to understand and process them...
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2027 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 05, 2015 12:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: I've never agreed much with magi astrology...I see Chiron as pain, pain that needs to be worked through. I do think TF's will touch this pain and quite likely are the only relationship strong enough to actually, fully heal that wound through love. Maybe that's the TF relationships deepest purpose...once we are freed of this wound that won't heal, we are freed of the pain of not knowing our highest self. I think that wound is actually nothing more than the process of moving from our higher self and becoming human! I think it's losing perfection and losing our ability to be higher beings of light we truly are, and forgetting who we are. The pain is the separation and feeling of being abandoned by our family and our father, being thrown the earth to be in physical pain we have never experienced before. We forget where we came from and why we came here the longer we are separated. Healing that wound would mean coming full circle and remember who we are, why we came here and that we were not abondoned or cast out we chose this in order to learn a deeper love, how to love unconditionally. To learn how to put ourselves aside even as we are hurting and choose to love others even if they are part of why we are hurting. So that T-Square doesn't seem out of place to me..it fits perfectly! TF's are the ones who open us back up to who we are beyond humanity, our higher being. Look at the TF relationships they are destructive and painful...but I'm sure there is a higher purpose maybe eventually we will see...right now all I see is the pain being forced to the surface of everyone involved in the TF relationship. I've seen so many aspects to Chiron but rarely seen any that didn't hurt, actually I've never seen ANY that didn't hurt. So their Cinderella link, I think is wrong. Plus I've had this link a few times, hooked up to Moon, Jupiter, Venus and Juno....never felt anything extra special from it.
Thanks for sharing your in depth perspective of TF relationships and purpose and how chiron plays a key role. I do feel that pain that is been forced to the surface and had no idea it was something that was connected to TF, I dont know what do with it, I thought I was Pmsing as usual but this is different. You are experiencing it too and noticing others are as well? Do you have any theories about it? Is it the lunar supermoon eclipse that just passed? Thanks for also sharing how you feel about cinderalla linkages, I have to say that I agree that I have never experienced a chiron aspect that didn't hurt and find their theories fishy but they were always in the back of my mind. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2027 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 05, 2015 12:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: I wonder what it is that sits opposed to Chiron to give the stability and strength that keeps us working to resolve this pain....I just think in the TF there will be a strong placement that provides the stability and strength to keep going.It maybe we won't find these answers now, maybe you in your next life will find it. The fact is we don't have all the answers, things are only unfolding for us at the rate that we are able to understand and process them...
I am thinking Saturn, time and hard work are on your side with Saturn, its persistent and feels responsible so it keeps going and trying. But Jupiter gives that optimism and faith also that helps you keep going working through the pain, I have jupiter opposite chiron so I could see that, I jump from Chiron to Jupiter. OMG transit mars is on my Jupiter/Chiron Midpoint now !!!!!!!!!!!! LOL that is why I have been feeling like pain is being pushed to the surface, hurt, angry, moody and annoyed! Gabby you are angel, thanks for your feedback, its exactly what I needed to hear Bless you always, you are so amazing. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 22190 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 05, 2015 06:49 AM
Personally I think Chiron is indicating where you are without "second skin", that is why if something touches you there it can either feel very raw and painful or very soothing like balm, depending on the aspects, planets and how the other person acts. Most of the time I notice that Chiron DOES represent healing and more so some sort of transition, a transformation (after all he is the bridge between the personal planets and the transpersonal outer energies), but to really receive and accept the healing, most of the time we have to go through the pain again, which usually is old pain, something from the past that was so painful we chose to NOT resolve it, but put it into a corner, ignore it. but in a chironic relationship we do not have a choice, we have to LOOK at it, recognize even the pain and the scars it left as part of ourselves. That is the only way to the healing part of Chiron. Going through the damned thing.
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8184 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted October 05, 2015 10:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: I am thinking Saturn, time and hard work are on your side with Saturn, its persistent and feels responsible so it keeps going and trying. But Jupiter gives that optimism and faith also that helps you keep going working through the pain, I have jupiter opposite chiron so I could see that, I jump from Chiron to Jupiter.OMG transit mars is on my Jupiter/Chiron Midpoint now !!!!!!!!!!!! LOL that is why I have been feeling like pain is being pushed to the surface, hurt, angry, moody and annoyed! Gabby you are angel, thanks for your feedback, its exactly what I needed to hear Bless you always, you are so amazing.
Transit Mars on your Chiron/Jupiter midpoint would be a force to deal with!! I can see why your having so much pain resurfacing and it's making you feel angry and upset!! Don't give me credit for finding that, that's all on you and your brilliant thinking!!  You know what sits on my Chiron/Jupiter midpoint?? Lol, my Vertex!! Grrrrrr Chiron aries@24 Jupiter aries@15 Vertex aries@21 Destin libra@21 Venus libra@19 Exact midpoint would be 19-20, my Summeria sits right around there? So I'm Destin to heal because anything and everything the universe sends me is part of my healing process, for the love of insanity..lol...why did I chose that?? I guess I wanted to make sure I had no choice but to heal, goes along with my karma/AC and direct NN I guess....Its like I'm gulping in all the karma and pain I can during this life in order to bring all my unresolved pain back to the surface, where I can see it and have the ability to deal with it! Wow...what's wrong with my higher self and it choosing THAT life path this time around!? Lol IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8184 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted October 05, 2015 10:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Thanks for sharing your in depth perspective of TF relationships and purpose and how chiron plays a key role. I do feel that pain that is been forced to the surface and had no idea it was something that was connected to TF, I dont know what do with it, I thought I was Pmsing as usual but this is different. You are experiencing it too and noticing others are as well? Do you have any theories about it? Is it the lunar supermoon eclipse that just passed? Thanks for also sharing how you feel about cinderalla linkages, I have to say that I agree that I have never experienced a chiron aspect that didn't hurt and find their theories fishy but they were always in the back of my mind.
I think the lunar eclipse is drawing out the pain that is still corrupting the ones that are so close, the ones that are on the threshold of breaking new ground and are now finally ready to deal with and overcome what is holding them back. I think this is a time for purging. Yes, I'm noticing it in many ppl right now, it's like they are falling apart but at the same time someone stronger is re-emerging with a new will to fight for their own happiness. This is a hard time but still a great time, it's healing! IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8184 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted October 05, 2015 10:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Personally I think Chiron is indicating where you are without "second skin", that is why if something touches you there it can either feel very raw and painful or very soothing like balm, depending on the aspects, planets and how the other person acts. Most of the time I notice that Chiron DOES represent healing and more so some sort of transition, a transformation (after all he is the bridge between the personal planets and the transpersonal outer energies), but to really receive and accept the healing, most of the time we have to go through the pain again, which usually is old pain, something from the past that was so painful we chose to NOT resolve it, but put it into a corner, ignore it. but in a chironic relationship we do not have a choice, we have to LOOK at it, recognize even the pain and the scars it left as part of ourselves. That is the only way to the healing part of Chiron. Going through the damned thing.
Couldn't agree more Ceri!! 💞 IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2027 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 05, 2015 09:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Personally I think Chiron is indicating where you are without "second skin", that is why if something touches you there it can either feel very raw and painful or very soothing like balm, depending on the aspects, planets and how the other person acts. Most of the time I notice that Chiron DOES represent healing and more so some sort of transition, a transformation (after all he is the bridge between the personal planets and the transpersonal outer energies), but to really receive and accept the healing, most of the time we have to go through the pain again, which usually is old pain, something from the past that was so painful we chose to NOT resolve it, but put it into a corner, ignore it. but in a chironic relationship we do not have a choice, we have to LOOK at it, recognize even the pain and the scars it left as part of ourselves. That is the only way to the healing part of Chiron. Going through the damned thing.
What a PERFECT description "were you are without a second a skin," that is exactly it isn't it?, that is how it feels. I agree though chiron brings the pain to the surface and gives you the chance to heal what you avoided healing or were not able to heal before for whatever the reason. I am thinking of chiron transit on my moon and how it first felt super uncomfortable but eventually resulted in a lot of healing but you forget that chiron did that and only tend to remember the pain part LOL but you are right that balm soothing like effect comes later and you reach a sense of peace and acceptance that is priceless. The fact is that you can only heal if the anger and or pain is brought to the surface and chiron does that, it brings back to the surface what you were not able to process, deal with or heal before giving you another chance at it or allowing you to reach new levels of the pain you were not aware of and get rid of karma by healing and freeing yourself from it. It is a gift disguised as pain or anger initially but in reality an opportunity. Chiron is a powerful comet. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2027 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 06, 2015 12:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Transit Mars on your Chiron/Jupiter midpoint would be a force to deal with!! I can see why your having so much pain resurfacing and it's making you feel angry and upset!! Don't give me credit for finding that, that's all on you and your brilliant thinking!!  You know what sits on my Chiron/Jupiter midpoint?? Lol, my Vertex!! Grrrrrr Chiron aries@24 Jupiter aries@15 Vertex aries@21 Destin libra@21 Venus libra@19 Exact midpoint would be 19-20, my Summeria sits right around there? So I'm Destin to heal because anything and everything the universe sends me is part of my healing process, for the love of insanity..lol...why did I chose that?? I guess I wanted to make sure I had no choice but to heal, goes along with my karma/AC and direct NN I guess....Its like I'm gulping in all the karma and pain I can during this life in order to bring all my unresolved pain back to the surface, where I can see it and have the ability to deal with it! Wow...what's wrong with my higher self and it choosing THAT life path this time around!? Lol
But you triggered the thinking process that lead me to me looking at my transits and realizing transit mars was squaring chiron on my jupiter-uranus and chiron midpoint and our conversation led to that. Most important I have been feeling weird for several days now not knowing what on earth was up with me and so that epiphany which you triggered and assisted with put my mind back on track to were it needs to be and help me realize were it was coming from . WOW you have vertex conjunct Chiron huh? That must be hard but also very beautiful, those two together must feel so personal and naked; I am surprise that is not active in synastry for you or maybe when you meet people that touch it, it feels too vulnerable and uncomfortable, like too much. Well how does it feel? However, I would think that would give you great power to bring healing to others that touch that spot for you though. I can say I feel you bring a lot of healing to people you interact with here and see the effects of that. Look at that your chiron and vertex trine my VENUS and MARS and you brought healing to me on this thread while I was going through a transit mars squaring my chiron LOL; you do have a soothing healing effect on me. You are an angel. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2027 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 06, 2015 12:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: I think the lunar eclipse is drawing out the pain that is still corrupting the ones that are so close, the ones that are on the threshold of breaking new ground and are now finally ready to deal with and overcome what is holding them back. I think this is a time for purging. Yes, I'm noticing it in many ppl right now, it's like they are falling apart but at the same time someone stronger is re-emerging with a new will to fight for their own happiness. This is a hard time but still a great time, it's healing!
Very relatable, great analysis! IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2027 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 07, 2015 01:13 AM
Davison composite for 111111 and Valentine:*Love Stellium *Isis conjunct Osiris EXACT *Southnode conjunct Saturn *Jupiter conjunct Valentine *TNP-Poseidon conjunct AMOR *Mars squaring the nodes *Moon sextile Juno *Eros square Pluto IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2027 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 07, 2015 12:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: I think the lunar eclipse is drawing out the pain that is still corrupting the ones that are so close, the ones that are on the threshold of breaking new ground and are now finally ready to deal with and overcome what is holding them back. I think this is a time for purging. Yes, I'm noticing it in many ppl right now, it's like they are falling apart but at the same time someone stronger is re-emerging with a new will to fight for their own happiness. This is a hard time but still a great time, it's healing!
I have been thinking about it and I think this is a time of identifying false twins, I feel the purging has to do a lot with that, letting go of certain people that become clear were soulmates and not twinflames, that served their purpose like my aqua friend, bye bye.
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8184 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted October 07, 2015 01:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: I have been thinking about it and I think this is a time of identifying false twins, I feel the purging has to do a lot with that, letting go of certain people that become clear were soulmates and not twinflames, that served their purpose like my aqua friend, bye bye.
So funny, I met a guy in early September but we didn't actually meet until the day of/after the eclipse. We talked on the phone while watching the eclipse together and then he said "I'd really like to meet you...tomorrow"! Then he drove 6 hours to meet me. We went out and had so much fun, we were so alike! He stayed in town for the week and looked at real estate. Turns out he'd been thinking about moving to my area for a couple years. We went out again and hung out for the day. He is coming back next week and he let me plan a dinner to celebrate his birthday with him, his birthday was October 3. He's planned the following day for us to hang out to. What's strange is I've never felt as deeply for anyone except my TF(TF's Karma is on my Chiron, and Psyche on my Vertex) I feel like finally me heart truly opened again, I've liked ppl and loved them to an extent but never felt deeply with anyone but the TF and now him. This new guy, he's actually letting me into his life, TF always kept me at a distance. I found out later the TF was lying about some things and trying to keep them hidden from me, that's why he kept me at a distance. Me and TF had his Valentine/my Valentine exact conjunct on my Eros. All cap@9-10, his Eros cap@20 square his Psyche on my Vertex, my Venus sits on my anti-Veryex and formed a t-sqaure with his Eros/Psyche, his Cupido sat on my Venus/anti-Vertex. Me and the new guy have his Eros/my Eros exact conjunct on my Valentine. All cap@9-10, his Valentine is cap@3-4 Me and the new guy have Psyche/Psyche conjunct and then Eros/Eros conjunct --- EDIT- We have Eros/Psyche quadronovile and tri-Septile, they are just a few degrees different Quadronovile is 160-my Eros to his Psyche 157.5 degrees apart Tri-Septile is 154.5-his Eros to my Psyche 155 degrees apart --- In comp our Valentine/Eros/Cupido sit on our NN cap@7-10 Comp Eros/Cupido/NN are quadronovile Psyche His Amor is on my DC, my Amor is on his NN Comp Amor is on my asteroid 111111 I feel so happy he's letting me be part of his life....he's already planning a few trips away with me. He wants to take me to New Orleans for my birthday, and we are going to golf with him and some friends next week. Plus he keeps talking about going to Las Vegas to watch the shows...since I've never been there. I feel like thanking my TF for not giving me what I needed because I wouldn't have kept searching and found him....someone who fits me so much better and is so much more open to me. His Moon/Venus conjunct my NN 0-1 degree His Mars conjunct my Moon 0 degree His Sun conjunct my AC/Pluto 0-2 degree His Saturn conjunct my SN by 0.02 degree His Neptune conjunct my Sun/Merc 3-4 degree His Neptune trine my Saturn 3 degree Plus his Isis trine my Osiris 1 degree(me n TF had opposition) Horus/Hathor 0 degree Jupiter/Themis conjunct 0 degree Pyramis/Thisbe conjunct 2-3 degree There's more and they were good ones to!! But I can't remember and don't want to run them again, my brain is not up to it right now! Transit Merc rx is squaring my gemini Mars....Lol...my brain is not functioning! I have to much Mercury in my chart, Merc rx always makes my brain foggy. To me your theory of this being a time to identify false TF's is very correct, at least I hope it is! 🙏😇 😍 IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8184 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted October 07, 2015 01:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: But you triggered the thinking process that lead me to me looking at my transits and realizing transit mars was squaring chiron on my jupiter-uranus and chiron midpoint and our conversation led to that. Most important I have been feeling weird for several days now not knowing what on earth was up with me and so that epiphany which you triggered and assisted with put my mind back on track to were it needs to be and help me realize were it was coming from .WOW you have vertex conjunct Chiron huh? That must be hard but also very beautiful, those two together must feel so personal and naked; I am surprise that is not active in synastry for you or maybe when you meet people that touch it, it feels too vulnerable and uncomfortable, like too much. Well how does it feel? However, I would think that would give you great power to bring healing to others that touch that spot for you though. I can say I feel you bring a lot of healing to people you interact with here and see the effects of that. Look at that your chiron and vertex trine my VENUS and MARS and you brought healing to me on this thread while I was going through a transit mars squaring my chiron LOL; you do have a soothing healing effect on me. You are an angel.
Thank you Hyp, your so sweet! 💖😇 IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2027 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 07, 2015 03:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: So funny, I met a guy in early September but we didn't actually meet until the day of/after the eclipse. We talked on the phone while watching the eclipse together and then he said "I'd really like to meet you...tomorrow"! Then he drove 6 hours to meet me. We went out and had so much fun, we were so alike! He stayed in town for the week and looked at real estate. Turns out he'd been thinking about moving to my area for a couple years. We went out again and hung out for the day. He is coming back next week and he let me plan a dinner to celebrate his birthday with him, his birthday was October 3. He's planned the following day for us to hang out to. What's strange is I've never felt as deeply for anyone except my TF(TF's Karma is on my Chiron, and Psyche on my Vertex) I feel like finally me heart truly opened again, I've liked ppl and loved them to an extent but never felt deeply with anyone but the TF and now him.This new guy, he's actually letting me into his life, TF always kept me at a distance. I found out later the TF was lying about some things and trying to keep them hidden from me, that's why he kept me at a distance. Me and TF had his Valentine/my Valentine exact conjunct on my Eros. All cap@9-10, his Eros cap@20 square his Psyche on my Vertex, my Venus sits on my anti-Veryex and formed a t-sqaure with his Eros/Psyche, his Cupido sat on my Venus/anti-Vertex. Me and the new guy have his Eros/my Eros exact conjunct on my Valentine. All cap@9-10, his Valentine is cap@3-4 Me and the new guy have Psyche/Psyche conjunct and then Eros/Eros conjunct We have DW Eros/Psyche quadronovile In comp our Valentine/Eros/Cupido sit on our NN cap@7-10 Comp Eros/Cupido/NN are quadronovile Psyche His Amor is on my DC, my Amor is on his NN Comp Amor is on my asteroid 111111 I feel so happy he's letting me be part of his life....he's already planning a few trips away with me. He wants to take me to New Orleans for my birthday, and we are going to golf with him and some friends next week. Plus he keeps talking about going to Las Vegas to watch the shows...since I've never been there. I feel like thanking my TF for not giving me what I needed because I wouldn't have kept searching and found him....someone who fits me so much better and is so much more open to me. His Moon/Venus conjunct my NN 0-1 degree His Mars conjunct my Moon 0 degree His Sun conjunct my AC/Pluto 0-2 degree His Saturn conjunct my SN by 0.02 degree His Neptune conjunct my Sun/Merc 3-4 degree His Neptune trine my Saturn 3 degree Plus his Isis trine my Osiris 1 degree(me n TF had opposition) Horus/Hathor 0 degree Jupiter/Themis conjunct 0 degree Pyramis/Thisbe conjunct 2-3 degree There's more and they were good ones to!! But I can't remember and don't want to run them again, my brain is not up to it right now! Transit Merc rx is squaring my gemini Mars....Lol...my brain is not functioning! I have to much Mercury in my chart, Merc rx always makes my brain foggy. To me your theory of this being a time to identify false TF's is very correct, at least I hope it is! 🙏😇 😍
Thanks for sharing. Great example of what this time is feeling for me as well. Its bringing clarity Gabby, pain and healing, letting go of false delusions and clarity. I love the aspects you have with him. Its funny bc the reason why I met AQUA is because I missed my TF and asked the universe to send me someone that can make me feel like that again. I considered him a TF candidate but all these eclipses have put that to rest and I feel even more assured of what I was always felt and knew that my EX is my TF. I agree that having multiple couple asteroids is a sign for it. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8184 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted October 07, 2015 04:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Thanks for sharing. Great example of what this time is feeling for me as well. Its bringing clarity Gabby, pain and healing, letting go of false delusions and clarity.I love the aspects you have with him. Its funny bc the reason why I met AQUA is because I missed my TF and asked the universe to send me someone that can make me feel like that again. I considered him a TF candidate but all these eclipses have put that to rest and I feel even more assured of what I was always felt and knew that my EX is my TF. I agree that having multiple couple asteroids is a sign for it.
So your not going to be with your TF? Aqua is good for you and makes you happy even if he's not TF? I'm just clarifying that I understood with Merc rx and all! Lol What is it that has clarified for you that your ex is TF and aqua is not? IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2027 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 07, 2015 05:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: So your not going to be with your TF? Aqua is good for you and makes you happy even if he's not TF? I'm just clarifying that I understood with Merc rx and all! Lol What is it that has clarified for you that your ex is TF and aqua is not?
No, I can't be with him (remember I have dark moon in the 5th and I have juno in the 5th too so I married my second choice). I love my husband and I am all he has, I told my ex that when he would return it would be too late for us, I predicted that and he did return about 4.10 years ago right before I was about to get married. Its like I knew what was going to happen years before it did, I had a sense that this has happened before in other lives and felt like "let's finally get it right on this life." Aqua guy is a romantic soulmate but not my TF and if I met him at the right time yes we would have had a relationship that would have lasted at least a few years or maybe lifetime. I dont think we are meant to marry our TF every life time, I think perhaps we always cross paths and walk together for a while to remind us of what unconditional love is and feels like and to activate certain transformation in us that must occur.
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8184 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted October 07, 2015 06:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: No, I can't be with him (remember I have dark moon in the 5th and I have juno in the 5th too so I married my second choice). I love my husband and I am all he has, I told my ex that when he would return it would be too late for us, I predicted that and he did return about 4.10 years ago right before I was about to get married.Its like I knew what was going to happen years before it did, I had a sense that this has happened before in other lives and felt like "let's finally get it right on this life." Aqua guy is a romantic soulmate but not my TF and if I met him at the right time yes we would have had a relationship that would have lasted at least a few years or maybe lifetime. I dont think we are meant to marry our TF every life time, I think perhaps we always cross paths and walk together for a while to remind us of what unconditional love is and feels like and to activate certain transformation in us that must occur.
Sometimes the second choice ends up being better!! I'm glad your getting clarity Hyp! So you know your your TF, the aqua guy is a SM, is your husband a SM? I'm so glad you have him! Do you have any aspects with your husband that indicate what your souls relationship to him? I've had a guy or 2 inbetween that I know where SM's but the only ones I have this deep instant love kind of connections is with the 2 that conjunct my Eros/Valentine with their Eros or Valentine. Do you see any connections like that? IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2027 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 07, 2015 07:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Sometimes the second choice ends up being better!! I'm glad your getting clarity Hyp! So you know your your TF, the aqua guy is a SM, is your husband a SM? I'm so glad you have him! Do you have any aspects with your husband that indicate what your souls relationship to him? I've had a guy or 2 inbetween that I know where SM's but the only ones I have this deep instant love kind of connections is with the 2 that conjunct my Eros/Valentine with their Eros or Valentine. Do you see any connections like that?
My husband is a karmic soulmate. My Northnode conjuncts his psyche and my Valentine and Vertex conjunct his Northnode, his vertex sextiles exact my Venus. Also my venus-karma-artemis-mars-fortuna conjuncts his Venus-Isis-Asmodeus and all squares his mars-uranus-DC-angel-Horus. My valentine vigintiles his IC, my eros-angel conjunct his IC. My true lilith conjuncts his southnode, his true lilith-Juno-Saturn conjunct my SUN. We have his EROS conjunct my Saturn-DNA. I do like Eros-Valentine I have that in composite with Aqua along with venus-angel-tnp-poseidon tight stellium under 3d. In davison we had an exact Moon-Juno conjunction @27d44 but also valentine conjunct saturn inconjunct an exact venus sextile mars. I have in midpoint valentine conjunct saturn with husband. I guess that is the indicator of a karmic soulmate. Valentine gets rid of a lot of karma and has Northnode conjunct saturn in the discovery chart so when you see it conjuncting saturn in davison/composite/synastry you know that it is a karmic soulmate. That the purpose of the union is love (valentine has venus conjunct jupiter) but to get rid of a lot of accumulated karma as well. NOW Valentine aspect EROS will feel like the other person you share that aspect with is an angel making you feel things you thought you will never feel again: Valentine-Eros composite has in Davison Jupiter conjunct ANGEL and in midpoint VENUS conjunct ANGEL plus MOON conjunct TRUE LILITH opposing TRUE PRIAPUS and the opposition squares VENUS-ANGEL making VENUS-ANGEL the apex of the tsquare so yeah its a nice aspect. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 5496 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 07, 2015 08:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: ... but the only ones I have this deep instant love kind of connections is with the 2 that conjunct my Eros/Valentine with their Eros or Valentine. Do you see any connections like that?
I don't have the EROS conjunct VALENTINE, but I do have an EROS conjunct VALENTINE with my karmic soulmate. 1º. His VALENTINE, my EROS. His EROS is sextile my VALENTINE, 2º. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8184 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted October 07, 2015 08:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: My husband is a karmic soulmate. My Northnode conjuncts his psyche and my Valentine and Vertex conjunct his Northnode, his vertex sextiles exact my Venus. Also my venus-karma-artemis-mars-fortuna conjuncts his Venus-Isis-Asmodeus and all squares his mars-uranus-DC-angel-Horus. My valentine vigintiles his IC, my eros-angel conjunct his IC. My true lilith conjuncts his southnode, his true lilith-Juno-Saturn conjunct my SUN. We have his EROS conjunct my Saturn-DNA. I do like Eros-Valentine I have that in composite with Aqua along with venus-angel-tnp-poseidon tight stellium under 3d. In davison we had an exact Moon-Juno conjunction @27d44 but also valentine conjunct saturn inconjunct an exact venus sextile mars. I have in midpoint valentine conjunct saturn with husband. I guess that is the indicator of a karmic soulmate. Valentine gets rid of a lot of karma and has Northnode conjunct saturn in the discovery chart so when you see it conjuncting saturn in davison/composite/synastry you know that it is a karmic soulmate. That the purpose of the union is love (valentine has venus conjunct jupiter) but to get rid of a lot of accumulated karma as well. [b]NOW Valentine aspect EROS will feel like the other person you share that aspect with is an angel making you feel things you thought you will never feel again: Valentine-Eros composite has in Davison Jupiter conjunct ANGEL and in midpoint VENUS conjunct ANGEL plus MOON conjunct TRUE LILITH opposing TRUE PRIAPUS and the opposition squares VENUS-ANGEL making VENUS-ANGEL the apex of the tsquare so yeah its a nice aspect.[/B]
You have a lot of great aspects!! I know we've talked about that aqua Saturn/Valentine, I wish you didn't have that one but I guess it's part of the karma, so there is reasons for it. Eventually it will be prove to be good!
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2027 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 07, 2015 08:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: I don't have the EROS conjunct VALENTINE, but I do have an EROS conjunct VALENTINE with my karmic soulmate. 1º. His VALENTINE, my EROS. His EROS is sextile my VALENTINE, 2º.
So a double whammy! Cool. Well I do think Saturn-valentine aspects is a karmic soulmate indicator but don't think Eros-Valentine is. You must have other markers with him to indicate he is a karmic soulmate. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2027 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 07, 2015 08:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: You have a lot of great aspects!! I know we've talked about that aqua Saturn/Valentine, I wish you didn't have that one but I guess it's part of the karma, so there is reasons for it. Eventually it will be prove to be good!
I adore your optimism, it made me smile when I read that but you are right, its there for a reason that is for sure even if I don't understand it and I do respect the process, the picture is bigger than we have access to see. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8184 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted October 07, 2015 10:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: I don't have the EROS conjunct VALENTINE, but I do have an EROS conjunct VALENTINE with my karmic soulmate. 1º. His VALENTINE, my EROS. His EROS is sextile my VALENTINE, 2º.
Did your heart open hugely to that karmic soulmate? I swear nothing feels like this aspect to me. It makes me wonder if nobody is my TF it's just this aspect that feels so special!? Lol(kind of) This aspect seems to be the only way my heart fully opens, through an exact conjunction to that place in my chart. We all 3 have Eros/Valentine conjunct in our natal charts... TF-Valentine cap@10, Eros cap@19-20, his AC cap13 New guy-Valentine cap@2-3, Eros cap@10, his DC cap@3-7 Me-both cap@10 on my IC cap@7-8 Both born in 1970, (year of the dog to my year of rabbit) they are 6 months apart....both 5-51/2 years older than me. My Venus does nothing in my chart compared to when these ppl have Eros or Valentine on my Eros/Valentine. I've had every soulmate Venus aspect possible and felt nothing by comparison. TF had Venus/Merc on my SN, Asmodeus on my NN New guy has Saturn on my SN and Moon/Venus on my NN IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 5496 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 07, 2015 10:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Did your heart open hugely to that karmic soulmate? I swear nothing feels like this aspect to me. It makes me wonder if nobody is my TF it's just this aspect that feels so special!? Lol(kind of) This aspect seems to be the only way my heart fully opens, through an exact conjunction to that place in my chart.
Wow! I think the fact you all have EROS conjunct VALENTINE is a huge clue. And, actually, I've written extensively how he made me feel. As it's that guy. My 'false twin', as it were. So, yes, he did prompt me to behave in an incredibly uncharacteristic fashion. IP: Logged | |