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yungang_grotto
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posted November 05, 2015 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
You say in conjunction only. Squares and oppositions are always indicators of karma that must be cleaned.
So that means the two people won't always be in each other's lives? I've read that the Venus square Saturn is sometimes shown in synastry of married couples.

The exception is big time the only rule Everybody is different.

Looking for 'always' is usually a mistake... but not always!

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posted November 05, 2015 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
You say in conjunction only. Squares and oppositions are always indicators of karma that must be cleaned.
So that means the two people won't always be in each other's lives? I've read that the Venus square Saturn is sometimes shown in synastry of married couples.

I know a married couple with venus/saturn square (1) ..more than 10 years together.

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posted November 05, 2015 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
I know a married couple with venus/saturn square (1) ..more than 10 years together.

I was never agreeing that it can't be part of a long-term anything. Only that it's ancient karma that the couple is chipping away at. Possibly for a lifetime.

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posted November 05, 2015 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

What exactly do you mean? I've read Venus square Saturn aspect is usually binding in synastry.

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The exception is big time the only rule Everybody is different.

Looking for 'always' is usually a mistake... but not always!


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posted November 05, 2015 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you explain what you mean by ancient karma?
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I was never agreeing that it can't be part of a long-term anything. Only that it's ancient karma that the couple is chipping away at. Possibly for a lifetime.

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posted November 05, 2015 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would you say about mars conjunct Saturn?

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posted November 05, 2015 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've come to believe that to see how bound together two people will be in a relationship, then you have to look at the chart of the relationship itself. The synastry just isn't as telling as a final determining factor of the relationship itself. The synastry doesn't really show you everything that will be going on because progressions and transits will always be in play.

Since the Composite and Davison are like the natal of the relationship itself, I believe they show the "end of the matter", as they say. The Composite and Davison will show that regardless of the synastry aspects between the individuals and how they might feel about each other at any given point in time, this is what the 'relationship' will be.

My husband and I have been together since we were both teenagers. I'm 43 now and he's 40, and we've been married for 23 years. Our marriage has had it's ups and downs, and I'm currently feeling strong feelings for another man. Despite that, I am solidly convinced that my husband and I will ALWAYS have a good relationship. Even if one day we decide to divorce and end our marriage, I know it will be amicably, respectfully, and gently done. We would remain close friends and still care for each other for the rest of our days. That's as certain to me as my own name. We're simply family.

I think the extremely unbreakable bond between us shows in our Composite and Davison. Like I mentioned, our relationship may not stay a 'marriage' for the rest of our lives, but whether it does or not, we will be there for each other and care for each other always.

I think the biggest and strongest binding factor of our relationship shows in the Davison chart. There are multiple yods there.

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posted November 05, 2015 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:

What exactly do you mean? I've read Venus square Saturn aspect is usually binding in synastry.


I mean longevity isn't the only indicator of a successful relationship... looking for a synastry which indicates a long term relationship is all well and good--but what if it's a miserable relationship?

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posted November 05, 2015 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
... then there's something important to learn/experience--and misery is often linked to karma in our minds because it means there's something we've done which has caused present circumstances...

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posted November 05, 2015 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Was this always platonic?
Why is he still in your life if he's so manipulative? 😧

Brilliant questions all, Em. And, finally on the other side of this hell, I feel I can start to answer the complicated mess of, 'why the hell did I play Harley to his Joker for so Gherdehmmed long?'

Answer (prepare yourself, because it's groanworthy) -- I thought he was my twin flame.

I know, I know, I know. Get in line, right?

But in my humble defence, it was all just a little too crazy. Really. Try this on for size.

It's 2005. September. I'm 25 -- a lowly, retail bank teller, who's basically waiting for her life to begin -- and the FBI to finish their friggin' background, so I can get my TS-Pentagon clearance, move to Virginia, and work as an intelligence analyst at the DC Office. (Like Chuck as a chica, minus the Intersect getting slammed into my noggin.) I've just had one of Those Dreams -- the kind that often portend Big Things, and become projects that will really Be Something. I'm also 'rooming' with a psychopath who was once my boyfriend, before, y'know, he became a monster. Now neither of us can afford to pay rent on our own, so we're stuck together. (Ask me why I hate a man's MARS on my VENUS sometime.)

Fast forward some months, in which, quite likely, not much happened. I'm up way too bloody late, because he commandeers my computer more often than not, and I've gotten sick of his Lectering me into feeling like a POS. So, I just give. Fine. Whatever. I've got books. I can go read. So, it's at this hour, approaching Oh-God o'clock, that I can get any of MY pleasure work done, after an 11-hour day on my feet, fielding bad checks, and asking, 'did you know you could get a credit card right now and we'll waive all overdraft fees for a year? :: finger-shoots self in head :: And, at that time of my life -- which ain't all that different from now, honestly -- that was writing. And, since 2003, writing collaborative online, in worlds of another's creation; interactive 'fanfiction', in realtime.

After this dream, I was prompted to begin building one of my own. The next morning, I'm contemplating, however, the wisdom of having joined probably one of the dumbest online RPGs known-to-man, blaming sleep-deprivation, and the fact that I was likely slowly but surely going insane.

But, for whatever reason, he'd done the same damned thing.

We met that following evening, 22 July 2006. His first contact to me being 20 July, however, because, thank you, timestamp. Our official communication. The beginning of this 'that's some ride for a dime!' coaster-trip through both heaven and hell, depending upon the day, and circumstances.

Something about him made me go, 'eureka! He's the one!' -- to write the lead character in what was now my own RPG in development. And, though he agrees in hindsight, it was just as crazy -- about five minutes upon meeting -- something made him go, 'hell, yeah, let's do this!' And so it was. Kinda.

We wrote together like we were of one-mind. He decided that his character, the hero, should be secretly in love with my character, who, at the time, was just his assistant. And our crackling Tony Stark and Pepper Potts' style banter was born. And everyone loved it. We were en fuego.

He was a formally trained chemist and sometimes-comedian. Writing became his way of dealing with the overwhelming ennui of his life; becoming other people, to envision more exciting circumstances. Getting lost in fantasy just long enough to forget the mundane disappointment that was his reality.

Did I mention he's a sociopath?

Well, you can't liken someone to the Joker and not have them be on the psychopathic spectrum. (And, well, the whole chemist / comedian thing. How often does that happen?) And I was the sad, lonely, formally trained criminal profiler, getting ready for her first big gig in DC with the FBI's NCAVC.

He was an ass. But he was also a bitingly intelligent, hysterical ass. And I am such a sucker for a man with a big brain and sparkling wit. He knew it, too; could read me like a book, backwards and forwards. I thought his backhanded compliments and bizarrely obsessive attention meant that he was into me. But he played extremely close to the vest, never daring to let the truth be known.

Like another character to which he'd be compared -- Will McAvoy, of Sorkin's The Newsroom (brilliantly portrayed by the versatile-as-all-get-out Jeff Daniels) -- he'd come in, play his character to perfection, and then disappear, as if he were never there. He wasn't looking for friends. And he sure as hell wasn't after a relationship -- God, no. So much the opposite. Total loner with a mask of charismatic sarcasm that kept him from getting his block knocked off. But, unsurprisingly, didn't seem to be getting him laid.

Nonetheless, one Friday evening, he tells me that he doesn't have time to run a scene tonight, as, that would be pathetic, and he's going to go meet his friends. Well. Okay then. It probably was the first time he was that rude to me, but I knew he had it in him. He reappeared online 5 minutes later -- if that. Didn't say anything. I didn't, either. Then another 5 minutes passed. So, I finally did.

'You forget something?'
'Yeah,' his message said. 'I think you're my only friend.'

Hook.
Line.
Sinker.

I'd be the last you'd ever call a bleeding heart, but something, SOMEHOW, reached into the core of my heart in that moment, and yanked. Hard. I had an inexplicable need to be needed by him; to feel valued. To be ... special.

Every little minuscule scrap of attention I received from him, starting with that evening in which I became his confidante, was treated like pieces of gold; I treasured every moment, every word. He'd always made fun of my astrology, but when I ran our composite some years later, even I was blown away.

'It means we're soulmates, right?'

I melted. Maybe? Maybe we were. Maybe that could explain the incredible circumstances; the bizarre fact that this man from Phoenix, and this woman in Dallas, should never have even MET, let alone end up creating a story I'd later realise had all of the trappings of the twin flame phenomenon. So ... maybe we were.

There was just one teensy-weensy little problem, though.

... I had no idea who he was. And he basically told me that if I ever found out his identity, he'd be gone. Poof. Outtie.

Yeah. Little 'Eros and Psyche', much?

So. Of course, like an idiot, I didn't. I never pried. Never asked. Never dared. I couldn't lose my incredible writing partner, who had become my best friend, the man I was starting to see in my dreams, and, I hoped to God, I wasn't falling for.

Of course ... I was also a formally trained investigator. I knew that my You've Got Mail scenario was pretty on-the-nose, and his 'comedian friend' who 'totally has a crush on me', whom I called into a morning show and bantered with some months before, was absolutely him. He'd never thought to change vital details like his birthday, or where he attended school. It was transparent enough to where I knew.

And sometimes, he thought maybe I did know. But he didn't want to know if I knew, so he never asked. And I sure as hell didn't. So, we laboured under the mutual delusion that he was actually two people -- one of which had a crush on me, mind -- whom I finally met in 2010. 20 March 2010, to be exact.

Yeah. That's right. Four years later. I'd even since withdrawn my spot at the FBI-NCAVC and moved to Los Angeles. Which he, (as the guy who wasn't the comedian, but the chemist) referred to as, 'my wanting to see what it was like being west of him.' See? Always the jokester.

But it'd be October 2011 before things really changed.

'These still your digits?' I texted to The Comedian, (not the chemist) as we'd exchanged numbers the year prior when we met at my apartment. He responded in the affirmative.

After that, we were texting constantly. It was a crazy, heady experience, because of how much it felt like it was those, now several, years ago. I had an opportunity to develop our now old (as it ran from '05-'09) project for Starz Digital, a smaller distributor of the major network.

So, I asked the insane question.

'You guys are practically the same person. How would you like to play his character?'

He gave the equally insane answer.

'I'd love to.'

Did I care how he'd lied straight to my face, that March 2010? Or how he'd invited me to coffee the next morning, only to skip out without a word, texting me once he was back in Phoenix, because 'he had a gig come up' ? Realising that he'd realised the awkward silence that would eventually prevail, in which I just might ask, 'are you ever going to tell me the truth?'

Poof.

Of course I did. I even cried about it. I gave myself a serious head-check, saying, THIS IS NOT HOW SOMEONE WHO CARES ABOUT YOU BEHAVES. And, for the first time since our failed meeting, 4 July 2008, during a very brief 3-month long-distance relationship, following my leaving the psychopath -- I decided to let him go. To face reality, and drop it.

And, to answer your question, Em: his flight was laying over in my city, and we were going to ... uhm ... something about an airport bathroom. Not exactly mile-high club, but proximally close. It's probably best for all involved that didn't happen.

I was sick and tired of driving through Phoenix, to and from Dallas, and gnashing my teeth that I couldn't go and see the man who'd been my best friend for years. Because dropping in on an acquaintance, with whom I had spent only a few hours in person working on a project -- is just weird.

It was two days before his birthday, 2011. I'd been giving him an earful of my sorrow over our 'mutual friend' withholding his identity from me for so long. He fell into a sombre mood.

And sent me an email. From his email address -- you know, the guy who wasn't in any way, shape, or form, him.

And he signed it with his name.

Attached, was a confession, and third-person style narrative, about how he'd met this woman who'd basically changed his life. How he'd let her down. How he was so sure that she'd set him up, by not going to the airport. And how he'd acted like it didn't hurt. And that, now he had a real chance to make it up to her, he was going to.

I cried, but they were tears of legitimate joy. Shock. Closure and relief. And, to paraphrase his narrative, 'I thought it was a new beginning -- but it wasn't.'

The past lingered too deeply, too much, and too heavily. Suddenly, we had a HISTORY. And even though I'd get to go through Phoenix this year, for the first time, and see him, and hug him, and snap a photo that showed WE WERE HERE, AND THIS HAPPENED, it didn't change who he was. Even though he'd call me a week later, for the first time -- ever -- and that would lead to talking ALL OF THE TIME, it wouldn't change what had been.

Even though we were both undeniably falling in love -- we couldn't. But we could both agree that, hey, if something happened when we were shooting that next June (which never came) then ... well ... that's that, right?

It all spiralled out of control, 17 January 2013. I'd been backing off since the previous September, in which a misunderstanding led to a major blowout, and I could not longer take his mind-games -- like inventing women he was sleeping with -- if I wasn't picking up the phone. And later admitting to it. And considering it justified, because, 'you answered, didn't you?'

:: gnashing teeth ::

Yeah. I did.

I didn't want to be The Woman anymore. I wanted him to show me I mattered. I wanted to know. So, instead, he called me crazy, retracting everything he'd ever said, and there wasn't much he knew, except that he didn't want a romantic relationship with me, or even to sleep together. Because, in his eyes, I was crazy.

'YOU MAKE me crazy!' I'd said, throwing my phone across the room.

I am Auby's sense of crushed idealism, and raging broken heart.

By the time he (somewhat) apologised, on Valentine's Day, (as he couldn't understand 'why I seemed so cross') it was too late. And his apology was of the 'I'm getting the sense I should apologise for something I did,' kind.

By the time the truth would come out, the realisation that we're too close to try to have a casual relationship -- our relationship was ashes. I would've respected his admitting to me that he can't do anything but one-night-stands (which is true) and sleeping with his best friend, who knew him better than anyone (his words) was way too close to something resembling a relationship. Fair enough. Sad reality, but also true.

He then felt he was justified in playing the, 'but your husband wouldn't like it,' card. Until my now-boyfriend and I got back together later that year. We all had lunch the following May. The mood ... was mixed. My husband saying that he was my boyfriend, but I quickly countering that, no, we were just -- if anything -- friends with benefits. It wasn't like that.

Even then, protecting his feelings. Which, in all honesty, was probably justified on my behalf.

2012 was insane. So many dreams. So many weird synchronicities. So many odd experiences. And, God, SO much telepathy. We're STILL friggin' telepathic. Drives me bonkers. We were open frenemies from about June 2013 onward; periodic moments of civility. Rinse, repeat.

Mid-2014, he texts me; 'do you think I'm schizophrenic?' I call him. No, he's schizoid. That he already knew; but is he also schizophrenic? No, he's schizoid. You can't be both; it's a spectrum, and they're opposite ends. 'Okay, thanks.' I ask him why. Someone said they thought he was schizophrenic. (I could see why.) 'But I knew you'd tell me the truth. You know me better than anyone.'

Silence.

'Thanks.'

Pleasantries. One of us excusing ourselves from the conversation. Because, life.

Longer silence.

You know me better than anyone.

It hurt right here; somewhere between my heart and my soul, and my gut.

It was true, too. I think it probably still is. I don't think much has changed. He doesn't let people in, and, somehow, I ended up on the inside. Inside the wall.

But there's only so far one can go. There are always walls in front of that one. And that one. And that one.

All things which I'd encounter with my boyfriend. The major difference being, he always made me feel special. He always told me the truth. And, in March 2013, said that he wanted to learn to become someone who could really love me -- having all of the same problems, the same walls, the same fears, and the same inabilities.

But he wanted to try. And that's made all the difference.

So, why, almost a decade later, are we still kinda at this? I don't know. Honestly. We're in each other's background, and we occasionally resurface, to wish birthday greetings, or ask questions, or even commiserate. It'll never be the way it once was, though. I've healed. I found a self-love I'd never known before, and it allowed me to finally enjoy a love I couldn't have imagined.

He's still alone. By choice. Or something.

And some nights, at Oh-God o'clock, we get a little nostalgic, a little maudlin. Post this on Facebook. Listen to that song.

'This is totally not about you.'

But it always is. Rinse, repeat.

And ... life keeps on moving. It always does.

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posted November 05, 2015 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And, just because I feel it's really important to interject this: I was going off of the most commonly published 'literature' regarding identification of twin flames. NOT because I thought he and I were, but because we were writing a project that really smacked of the mythology, basic principles, and general 'story'.

So, I did my research -- years later -- in 2012.

And in 2014, we were 'pronounced' twin flames.

Not twin flames. We were all going off of the phenomenal composite, and our synchronicity-heavy 'oh-so-twin flamey' -- down to time disturbances, multidimensional stuff, shared dreams and telepathy -- sort of complicated relationship.

But what was honestly missing was the love. (And, well, a host of other things I've come to feel MUST be present if two individuals are legitimately twin flames.)

I think most of what's out there is misleading, downright wrong, and more indicative of karmic soulmates, or even true love soulmates.

But twin flames? That's a horse of a different colour. Had I known then, what I know now (ahhh, hindsight) I'd have known we were soulmates. Now it seems obvious. But then, following the 'twin flame signs' rigmarole, well, I bought into it.

I HIGHLY suggest that those 'twin flame signs' publications be burnt. At the very least, disregarded. Entirely. That can be present in any soulmate relationship -- and will be. It's only when certain other truly incredible features tend to be present in an already established profound connexion, THEN we can look at the synchronicities, the wild numerological linkages, the background similarities, the personality features -- and so on.

But that's not the place to start.

Astrology isn't the place to start, either, or -- oh, God. False positives are NOT fun.

Just my $0.03, from hard-won experience.

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posted November 05, 2015 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I was never agreeing that it can't be part of a long-term anything. Only that it's ancient karma that the couple is chipping away at. Possibly for a lifetime.

I know Aubyanne! I was only sharing what i saw to give people some hope.Usually people freak out when they see this aspect.

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posted November 05, 2015 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the Davison and Composite chart I have with someone. I don't know his correct birth time though unfortunately. For me I feel like I really want him to always keep in contact with him. The thought of us losing contact upsets me it does bother me a lot. It's agonizing really.

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posted November 05, 2015 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LF DX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now that's what I call, a hell of a story Auby, As a guy with intimacy issues, that's just WRONG, you cannot play someone like that, with the constant on-off, that's just, wrong.

Continuing with the thread, what happens when in a synastry you have, Venus-Saturn DW Square and Opposite, and NN Conjunct Saturn.

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posted November 06, 2015 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whoa.., Auby.., he sounds so much like my ex (the sperm donor Sag).. he was diagnosed schizo(id? Phrenic?) and bipolar in his teens and heavily medicated against his will until he effectively ran away and never returned. .... but i never think about the diagnosis much.. (what IS the difference between schizoid and schizophrenic?)--too lost in the story mostly, or not thinking about it at all--alternately, I guess. Much less lost these days... but reading what you've written helps to really bring some of his behaviour into focus for me... Writing in the third person, not wanting his whole identity known, being generally really uncaring/needy all the same.. lots of stuff rings bells for me, much of the gist... so interesting to read...

Also--if it means more interesting reading--do tell why you hate a man's Mars on your Venus! Because the one boyfriend i had with that aspect I wound up loathing deeply too... it's interesting that we've both had the lovely Saturn-Ascendant conjunction and the Mars-Venus in synastry--not to mention our 12th house Venus es.. maybe we attract similar... things... or maybe this stuff just happens all the time!

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posted November 06, 2015 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Auby that relationship sounds extremely exhausting!

I was just discussing the push pull rinse repeat scenario with a friend today. Not a fan. But wow you two seem bound by something for life. So happy to hear you have grown to love yourself and therefore invited real true love into your life 👏👏👏

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posted November 06, 2015 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish I knew why I was so attracted to this man.

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posted November 06, 2015 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EmGem:
Auby that relationship sounds extremely exhausting!

I was just discussing the push pull rinse repeat scenario with a friend today. Not a fan. But wow you two seem bound by something for life. So happy to hear you have grown to love yourself and therefore invited real true love into your life 👏👏👏


Thanks, Em. Better in my 30s than never, right?

I swear, this song .... Something about it grabbed me. Now I'm hearing the lyrics.

'I Want You' by Wrabel.

I'm all f'd up,
And honestly, it's been killing me.
And I, I don't wanna call;
I'm calling you 'cause I'm drunk tonight.
Pick up the phone, or I'll call a million times!

Why do I try when I know you're out there sleeping with someone else? When will I learn that love is just nonsense?

I can't control myself, and I want you.
'Cause I've been high enough for the both of us, high enough to forget that I'm still in love.

And this cheap champagne ... yeah, I hate the taste, but I'll take a sip. Celebrate in the way you f'd me up.

Oh, no don't know why I want you,
When I know you're the wrong thing.
Don't go!
You're the only thing that makes me feel something!
And I want you ....

'Of course, I don't want you. Hey. Hey! Wait! Where are you going? WHY ARE YOU LEAVING?'

Whew. Glad that's over.

So, a nice MOON conjunct SATURN/KARMA with a side of VENUS quindecile MARS aaaaaand VERTEX on the ASC, 0°.

FML.

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posted November 07, 2015 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
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Thanks, Em. Better in my 30s than never, right?

I swear, this song .... Something about it grabbed me. Now I'm hearing the lyrics.

'I Want You' by Wrabel.

I'm all f'd up,
And honestly, it's been killing me.
And I, I don't wanna call;
I'm calling you 'cause I'm drunk tonight.
Pick up the phone, or I'll call a million times!

Why do I try when I know you're out there sleeping with someone else? When will I learn that love is just nonsense?

I can't control myself, and I want you.
'Cause I've been high enough for the both of us, high enough to forget that I'm still in love.

And this cheap champagne ... yeah, I hate the taste, but I'll take a sip. Celebrate in the way you f'd me up.

Oh, no don't know why I want you,
When I know you're the wrong thing.
Don't go!
You're the only thing that makes me feel something!
And I want you ....

'Of course, I don't want you. Hey. Hey! Wait! Where are you going? WHY ARE YOU LEAVING?'

Whew. Glad that's over.

So, a nice MOON conjunct SATURN/KARMA with a side of VENUS quindecile MARS aaaaaand VERTEX on the ASC, 0°.

FML.


hahaha yesss perfect match that song!

"Better in my 30s than never, right?"

This **** gets better in your 30s! I swear it does. I have learnt soooo much and now in my mid 30s I feel more my true self than I ever have. I can stand on my own two feet as a strong woman. I love my life

yay us!

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posted November 07, 2015 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hahaha yesss perfect match that song!

"Better in my 30s than never, right?"

This **** gets better in your 30s! I swear it does. I have learnt soooo much and now in my mid 30s I feel more my true self than I ever have. I can stand on my own two feet as a strong woman. I love my life

yay us!

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posted November 07, 2015 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EmGem:
hahaha yesss perfect match that song!

"Better in my 30s than never, right?"

This **** gets better in your 30s! I swear it does. I have learnt soooo much and now in my mid 30s I feel more my true self than I ever have. I can stand on my own two feet as a strong woman. I love my life

yay us!


Woooot! Go, us! WINNING!

Yeah, I wasn't thrilled about turning thirty-five; reminds me of the Carlin bit. How, as you age, you turn. But so far, I'm doing the fine wine, rather than molding fruit thing. This is good!

I'm glad your SATURN-MOON is so much better. Maybe it takes a woman to be SATURN to do it right.

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posted November 08, 2015 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
And in 2014, we were 'pronounced' twin flames.

Not twin flames. We were all going off of the phenomenal composite, and our synchronicity-heavy 'oh-so-twin flamey' -- down to time disturbances, multidimensional stuff, shared dreams and telepathy -- sort of complicated relationship.


To be honest, I never got why your composite would supposedly have been spectacular just because it was tight. (Cramped together?) A counterintuitive thing IMO, arbitrarily decided.

To not write replies to two comments, noting that based on the "whole story" in comment ABOVE the one I'm replying to, I have no idea whatsoever why you'd ever have thought anybody or anything like that even could have been a "Twin Flame". Seems entirely incomprehensible and you'd likely have heard more such opinions if you'd written out the circumstances for others to read, the way you want more details from others as well. And as always, the rest of us online can't tell if you have anything resembling telepathy or if it's embellishments, and as with anything suggested, your being a self-confessed fabulist doesn't help people determine the "truth" of anything. We can't know, whatever way.

(Online RPG around 2003 also reminds of one from back then that had delusional or unstable people playing characters and thinking they WERE characters or that the RPG's world was "the secret reality of things", so I have a higher 'clearance' check to some people involved in such things these days. Something seeming like a fun activity differs from someone thinking an RPG's world is the actual reality and hidden message to Those In The Know, or all that.)

To address the original topic and charts, I think there was a Mars square the Saturn-SN-Karma with the person/chart you posted. That doesn't seem the most amicable thing to begin with, and for a Moon conjunction and square, harsh to take. (Which again leads to asking why something like that wasn't the starting point for assessment more than asteroids or whatever, although IMO, again, they matter as well if looking at close contacts.)

The people who have stuck around the longest in my life have all tended to have something on the antiscia degrees of my DC, as if needing that for anything to last or for the contact to remain. With people who have had things near my DC it's often been Saturn or Mars from the 6H and I haven't liked their trying to even suggest to me what to do, nor gotten close to the people to begin with. Even though that'd trine my Mars, not even form any worse aspect. ~3.50 Aquarius is the antiscia of my North Node, so Saturn or Mars there or near enough may or may not also tie to the NN, but no such person was ever even remotely close. In contrast, the DC antiscia 22-23 Scorpio represented in another person's chart (when in contact with me) and they tended to be the ones who remained in contact as well long after others gotten to know at the same time had dropped out of the picture.

22-23 Scorpio doesn't really do anything else in my chart, so it also is the antiscia as the thing. Ascendants, an MC, this and that there and the people have "stuck around" over the years. Not constant contact necessarily, but remaining friends or otherwise knowing each other however long it'd have been.

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posted November 08, 2015 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Keela,

I appreciate your weighing in.

I guess as a former investigator with a spotless record, I take for granted how much my expertise was called upon in those circles, and that field. I am pleased to provide whatever evidence I've actually acquired. I'm quite serious about all of it.

As to the other elements of it, the whole gory story was presented in its entirety as it unfolded over a period of years. Thing is, so many 'twin flame' relationships had such volatility and uncertainty and downright brutality as well. Which was what REALLY got me questioning the whole business.

Yes, his natal MARS squaring the SATURN/KARMA/SNODE is a real doozy. God knows my ISIS didn't need to set it off by opposition, either. And my poor MOON was likely caught in the crosshairs.

Karmic soulmate relationship, indeed.

As to the RPG, it's not as it sounds. We were writing a collaborative story amongst 9 main writers, and a handful which alternated or came and went. It just happened to be online, using the old LiveJournal type formatted websites. (Though I did get my own domain for a time.) We had more than enough for a TV show, and we're happy to develop it in that direction years later. Hell, he devised an outlining method that, to this day, is the best one I've ever used.

And for a newcomer to showrunning, that experience really taught me how to put together and run a writers room. I was damned good at it, turns out. That experience, unexpected as it was, proved instrumental in giving me the confidence and skill to get where I am today. Nobody delusional of anything. We were all talented writers champing at the bit to do something fantastic, in a new medium, taking advantage of the technology that was developing.

And we really did. Great stuff. Above all, I'm proud of that. He is, too. Some things no amount of strife can dull or break.

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posted November 08, 2015 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
I mean longevity isn't the only indicator of a successful relationship... looking for a synastry which indicates a long term relationship is all well and good--but what if it's a miserable relationship?



I agree.

I am not going to be in a miserable relationship just so I can tell people, oh we've been together for 40 years

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Is this the case when having this aspect in synastry?
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
MOON conjunct SATURN is a very, very tough aspect to escape. I've also found that strong VERTEX to angles can have a 'binding' effect.

MOON/SATURN is a double-edged sword, of course. You may be stuck together -- but not exactly happy about it.

Binding doesn't always equal happiness.


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