posted January 13, 2016 10:26 AM            

You should always be able to download it, and it works on linux too, but not on apple.

And btw the reason norton messes up beside that it's just not very good, is that it can download it's own update or the what'snew text from the server. It probably sees this as trojan, shrug.

posted January 13, 2016 10:13 PM            

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Originally posted by racole12:
One of my longest relationships started when his progressed Moon was conj my prog Sun...

my prog Sun: 10.37 Cap
his prog Moon: 9.54 Cap

...about seven years ago I got into conversed progressed and started looking at important dates in my life, which one was when him and I met... when we met his Conversed Moon was conj my natal Sun and my conversed Moon was conj his natal Sun.

his natal Sun 10.37 Leo
my converse moon 10.10 Leo

my natal Sun 19.33 Sag
his converse Moon 20.31 Sag

I was blown away to see the double whammy with the converse moons PLUS the prog Moon to prog Sun... I'm still blown away about it b/c I have never seen anything like that since then and I have looked at all the important relationship in my life...

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When you met the relationship started right away? (meant: both having at the exact same time?)

Well, even if not, it is *AMAZING* indeed racole!

Funnily enough with the relationship I talked about in my very first post here (the one that drove me into the conversed realm) I ALSO had an exact pSun/pMoon conjunction!

my pMoon: 20'33 Aries
his pSun: 20'39 Aries

!!

(^ noticed that only years later)

Yesyes.. and then + my personal exact New Moon (Sun/Moon 1 deg conjunct) in the conversed realm. And his conversed Moon conjunct his natal Sun (by 5 deg)

WT.. I just notice our Venus/Mars conjunction (in synastry by 1 deg) at our immediate start exactly on his conversed quotidian (the TRUE progressed angles!) DESC! (minute matter to his Venus)

And at that time;

My conversed quotidian MC : 6'28 Scorp
His conversed quotidian MC : 6'33 Taurus

(^ no idea yet how in sync those walk)

ANOTHER blown away discovery right now;

I didn't only have a conversed New Moon at-that-time.. but...

That New Moon fell exactly on my conversed quotidian DESC! by '12 minutes conjunct my conversed Sun.

posted January 17, 2016 07:21 AM            

What about A pSun conjunct B pVenus by 1.09?

posted January 17, 2016 08:39 AM            

The accompanying true pr ASC was on 26 Cancer (interestingly enough that means my pr DESC that day was conjunct his nVenus by 0°23)

Also interestzing the true pr MC was on 29°55 Pisces, JUST starting a new cycle an hour or so after that. (00 Aries).

The progressed fullmoon fell along 1st-7th progressed houses, and into my natal 2nd-8th.

the converse IC on 10°09 Libra was applying to my n Pluto on 09°05 Libra (the day after probably).

converse Lilith was conjunct converse 8th house cusp by 0°10

The converse Sun-Venus-conjunction, which seems rather slow, had already been in 0°14

Midpoints involving the progressed Sun-Moon-opposition were:

Venus=Sun/Jupiter d=Moon/Jupiter 1°00
Uranus=Sun/ASC d = Moon/ASC 0°45
Pluto =Sun/Neptune = Moon/Neptune d 0°03
Node= Moon/Pluto = Sun/Pluto d 0°27
ASC = Moon/Saturn d = Sun/Saturn 0°55

A mix of good and bad ones

in my converse progressions I am going to have a last quarter Moon on 6th february 2016, while Venus is still applying to the conjunction with Sun (will peak in september)

Sun 14°18 Scorpio
Moon 14°18 Leo
Venus 14°27 Scorpio

that same day int he forward progressions Mars will become angular and VERY visible.

true pr MC 04°40 Capricorn
pr Mars 04°50 Capricorn

and that Mars is progressing to my natal Venus on 6°07 Capricorn, though not in orb yet

that day also

pMC conjunct con IC 0°52 (which naturally puts pMars on con IC)

Both Moons are near each othr though not conjunct (pMoon 18°41 Leo, con Moon 14°18 Leo), and my natal Moon is somewhere squeezed in at 17°06 Aquarius

They overlay the p/con 11th/5th houses and fall into my natal 8th

As for the midpoints, I included Venus as (Sun conjunct)Venus square Moon seems rather inseparable

Sun = Jupiter/Saturn d 0°52
Moon = Jupiter/Saturn 0°52
Venus = Jupiter/Saturn d 1°01
noone said it would be all jolly lol

Moon = Sun/Venus 0°04

Mercury = Sun/Pluto 0°12
Mercury = Venus/Pluto 0°17
(Moon does not appear here, as we have a square between Sun and MOon and the midpoints would probably coincide rather with semisquare and sesisquare, that I did not include)

Mars = Sun/Uranus 0°05 d
Mars = Venus/Uranus 0°10 d

Jupiter = Moon/ASC d 0°37
JUpiter = Sun/MC d 1°03
Jupiter = Venus/MC d 1°08

Neptune = MOon/ASC 0°12
Neptune = Sun/MC 0°38
Neptune = Venus/MC 0°43

Node = Moon/Pluto 0°40

posted January 17, 2016 08:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
Is someone's pSun applying to someone else's nSun by the orb of 0.58 countable?

What about A pSun conjunct B pVenus by 1.09?

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posted January 17, 2016 09:00 AM            

13°44 Scorpio
(with my Venus Star Point being at 13°45 Scorpio, which means it has reached the VSP position through conversed progression I guess)

It falls into the 1st converse progressed house, and natal 11th

con Mars is conjunct con ASC (0°40 applying) (and sextile natal Venus, which seems a vague reflection of the upcoming Venus-Mars-conjunction in progression, hitting in november 2017)

con Mars-ASC are also square con Moon which is on 6°15 Leo - con Mars is on 6°15 Scorpio, so it is REALLY Exact.

that con Moon has just passed over the opposition to p Sun on 8°24 Aquarius at that time (2 months before approxmiately?)

pChiron is on con DESC exact too so that is not that nice, but fitting as I have Chiron on DESC in the Venus-Return as well

pMoon is applying to pVenus with 1°01, and p Venus having just passed over natal Lilith

Yes, my Venus-story seems to be connected to Lilith quite much

BTW the con Sun-Venus conjunction is also on the antiscion of my natal Moon (0°50 applying)

as for midpoints to the Sun-Venus conjunction

Sun=Venus= Moon/MC 0°36
Sun = Venus = Jupiter/Saturn d 0°18

Moon=Sun/Uranus = Venus/Uranus 0°10

Mecury=Sun/Pluto d = Venus/Pluto d 0°14

Mars = Sun/Uranus d = Venus/Uranus d 0°10

ASC = Sun/Uranus d = Venus/Uranus d 0°29

posted January 17, 2016 09:09 AM            

HIS p Moon will be on 12°04 Taurus conjunct his p 5th cusp by 0°25

his p Venus will be within 4 minutes of opposing his natal Mars exact (and falling onto my natal Jupiter, ruler of my chart)

his con Moon on his natal NN by 15 minutes applying
his con NN on his con IC by 11 minutes

his con Venus conjunct my natal NN by 9 minutes applying (and my natal DESC by 3 degrees applying)

his con Sun applying to a square with my natal Moon (but still being 2,5 years I think).

this true con ASC that day will square my Pluto and about 1-3 days after that his true DESC Will conjunct my natal Venus (in fact THAT day his true DESC is EXACT on my natal Isis-Osiris-conjunction and his Draco Isis)

posted January 18, 2016 03:31 PM            

But converse progressed Venus conjunct natal Sun is better As I have it in regular progressed this confirms a lot of the mirroring going on.

Noticed too that his progressed vertex opposes my natal Jupiter and his progressed Jupiter opposes my natal vertex--kinda cool. Lots of stuff like that.

Converse progressions fill in a significant gap. Thank you!

Do we use the same month and day as we would with regular progressions if we're counting backwards.. i mean for him I'm going to 1951 as he's born in 1983... but is January the right place to go?

posted January 19, 2016 02:57 AM            

been looking up my parents charts for the time they met (they started dating pretty much instantly).

individually my Dad`s progressons were much stronger than my Mom`s.

Dad
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pMoon 7°43 Aquarius
pSun 26°09 Aquarius

- not yet a new Moon, but applying to one, about 1,5 years later

additionally his n Sun is at 5 Aquarius, so he also had
pMoon conjunct nSun 2°25 separating (this hit about 2-3 months before meeting my Mom)

that night he also had pMC conjunct n Sun 2°51 a - meaning it would have been exact about 3 days later, and I mentioned it course it emphasised his natal Sun and hence the conjunction between that nSun and his pMoon

he also had
pVenus trine conMars 0°02 s - so peaking just THEN, though it is progressed to converse, do we count those, too?
I am inclined to do so.

And then he had in the converse progressions
conMoon 25°36 Cancer
con Sun 14°20 Capricorn

not a fullmoon yet, but applying to one within about 11 months after meeting (which is I believe when they got serious and engaged, though they married about 3 years later)

I believe it also reflects their natal Sun-Moon-opposition, even though it is in different signs (3 Scorpio- 1 Taurus).

my Mom really didn`t have anything in terms of big bells, just

pSun conjunct pDESC 3°00s
- but since the true progressed angles move so quickly it was just a thing of some days

and

pMoon trine con Sun 0°01 s

posted January 19, 2016 03:02 AM            

n Venus trine con Sun 0°46 a
p Venus square n Sun 0°07a
con Sun conjunct n DESC 2°27 a
con Sun square con Sun 0°32
con Venus trine con Sun 3°18 a

these were the longer lasting ones.

The "timer-progressions" including the true progressed angles and pMoon were:

nVenus trine p Moon 0°47 s
n Venus conjunct con DESC 0°54 s
nMC conjunct p Moon 1°43a
pASC conjunct pMoon 4°06 a (appr. 4 months later)
con Moon opposite con Moon 2°13

as for the sign emphasis alone:

his n Sun, p Sun and p Moon in Aquarius-
nothing in her chart except her true progressed DESC in Aquarius

his con Sun in Capricorn and his con Moon in Cancer-
her n ASC in Cancer, and her con Moon in Capricorn

his n Moon in Taurus -
her natal and p Sun still in Scorpio

posted January 19, 2016 02:38 PM            

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n Venus trine con Sun 0°46 a
p Venus square n Sun 0°07a

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Who knows. It might make the square in the forward progressions acceptable. It's in fact a mirror somehow. HIS Venus / HER Sun. It's Always interesting to look at the same planet of each on all levels.

I also love the con-Sun to con-Venus trine applying (which my parents had in the forward movement). Ow and AGAIN his Venus!

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his con Sun in Capricorn and his con Moon in Cancer-
her n ASC in Cancer, and her con Moon in Capricorn

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^ Sun/Moon conjunct + Asc/Moon, were they applying?

posted January 19, 2016 03:19 PM            

Always wondered about how they were just having the Sun-Venus-square, and their only Sun-Venus-pr trine was already separating. But voila, in the converse progressions they had another one, applying at close orb.

"^ Sun/Moon conjunct + Asc/Moon, were they applying?"

His con Sun 14 Capricorn
her con Moon 27 Capricorn
since the conversed move backwards and Moon is faster, yes it was applying.
But the orb is really really big, nevertheless, his own con Moon on 25 Cancer was definitely oposing her con Moon.

As for ASC-Moon

his con Moon 25 Cancer
her n ASC 11 Cancer
so yes, 14 degrees applying approximately (you can see how most of the developing progressions are pointing at a time frame about a year after dating)

At the time of when they started dating I think the fact that his con Sun was applying to conjunct her n DESC by about 3 degrees, was probably also important.

Another thing, the true progressed / Quotidian angles are too quick moving to be anything but a "trigger", which is why I still keep an eye on the secondary progressed angles (It seems to me both have their merits)

Anyway in terms of secondary progressed angles they had:

in their respective natal charts, my Mom had:

pDESC conjunct con Moon 1°39 applying
con ASC conjunct p Moon 10°57 applying (again pointing at a time frame of approximately 10-11 months later)

(p IC was also conjunct n Moon with half a degree applying)

synastrically they had in terms of secondary progressed angles

his p ASC conjunct her p enus 1°32 s
his con ASC conjunct her con Venus 0°22 a
(you did wonder where HER Venus had been hiding, right? )

his con Moon conjunct her p ASC 0°34 s

(I rectified her birthtime, as it was just an hour or so exact, so the conj. to her p ASC might even have been applying, if I had the birthtime just a little wrong).

posted January 19, 2016 03:34 PM            

his con Sun 10°34 Capricorn
her n DESC 10°53 Capricorn
- don`t underestimate luminaries to DESC

his p Mars 10°44 Libra r
her p Venus 09°41 Libra

his sec p DESC 5°06 Aries
her sec p Jupiter 4°26 Aries
(edit: right on my natal IC. lol)

posted January 19, 2016 04:16 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Ohhh! Yay. I have been slightly wondering what there is in my guy's progressions to indicate a major relationship beginning. P.moon conjunct natal ascendant waa good, and p.MC conjunct natal Juno was good.

But converse progressed Venus conjunct natal Sun is better As I have it in regular progressed this confirms a lot of the mirroring going on.

Noticed too that his progressed vertex opposes my natal Jupiter and his progressed Jupiter opposes my natal vertex--kinda cool. Lots of stuff like that.

Converse progressions fill in a significant gap. Thank you!

Do we use the same month and day as we would with regular progressions if we're counting backwards.. i mean for him I'm going to 1951 as he's born in 1983... but is January the right place to go?

I guess his Sun Venus conjunction is separating... hope it's about me! Lol... sigh.

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You just have to go 32-33 days backwards from birth in his case. Here are both your conversed progressions. You can compare it yourself now, on all levels. Con-con / Con-natal / Con-secondary

You on the left.

posted January 20, 2016 03:48 AM            

Great!

make a composite chart of A's PROGRESSED chart with B's NATAL chart

^ I have missed that option for the past couple a years, so yea it went through my mind that this WOULD be significant. After all, the geometry behind it is completely awesome & utterly understandable harmonic-wise! (you'll definitely know that)

I did it, with the quotidian angles only.

I have not used the CONVERSED version in-all below

As an outstanding quotidian TIMER:

Yesterday very-end-of-the-day I sent snowsteps to my 2 favorites as I don't want them to slip and break their neck because of the current glazed frost in our country. They will receive them TODAY ('ve seen that).

The quotidian Asc/Desc stood out!
I take the moment they will globally get them today;

MR CAP;
Composite of HIS natal / MY progressed quotidian;

- Mars : 5'09 Aries
- ASC : 5'13 Aries
- Jupiter : 6'29 Libra
- his natal vertex: 5'26 Libra

(so.. ^ see how I was driven! - the Asc was already applying within 1 deg to Mars when I got the sudden idea to order/send and immediately did)

The OTHER way around, so Composite of MY natal / HIS progressed quotidian;

- compo Moon 0'36 Cap
- his natal Sun 1'23 Cap !!!!!

(^ that's one you'll get once in the 28 year! ;D ;D ;D)

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Mr Tauri,

Composite of HIS natal / MY progressed quotidian;

- Venus : 26'49 GEM
- DESC: : 26'14 GEM
- his natal Uranus : 26'33 SAG
- his natal IC : 25'45 GEM

(^ see how I was driven by love and care! / and also this one must have been applying within 1 deg when I directly materialized the order/send option)

(it's funny cause he has a Venus/desc conj in natal and I have it currently in progressed quotidian / so ofcourse that becomes one in the compo)

- IC : 27'02 Pisces

(^ I rember making the order at 26'59 which is to-the-minute my natal Sun/Moon midpoint! and his natal Venus is 28'45 Venus)

- MOON : 27'23 Aries
- his natal Sun: 0'59 Taurus

(LOl ^ u see... that one is what I also have with Mr Cap currently, once in the 28 year! - :;D)

The OTHER way around (my natal / his q.progressed).. I don't see so much.

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** Conclusion (until now): When making a Composite quotidian chart of A's natal chart and B's progressed chart we see the ACTION on the angles. The action is coming from person B, the one whose progressed chart is involved.

A personal pVenus on the quotidian pDesc (me) makes one actively loving + being loved. **

(^ that 'being loved' is another littl'e story of today, not exactly noteworthy but very typical)

posted January 20, 2016 06:31 AM              

I am sure the calculations are a bit off, because the exact times when the aspects would've been exact were not some of the most exciting ones in my life. For example:

-cp Venus conjunct Sun happened in 2012, on my birthday. I think I may have been between relationships, also it was in the middle of the period between my suicide attempt and my joining the bdsm lifestyle. I don't think either these events resonate with the Venus-Sun energy. Granted, about 6 months prior, I got engaged for the 1st time. To the Sag. A total fiasco. But I loved him. I always said I had 2 big loves - him and, well, the one I'm about to write next..

-cpSun sextile Venus, cpAsc conj Moon (DC ruler) and South Node, cpMoon conj Asc ALL happened after I broke up with the 1st big love of my life, the Bull. The relationship started 6 months prior and the whole big-bang drama happened about a year earlier, when I met him, so the calculations are way, way off.

posted January 20, 2016 06:46 AM            

those are astonishing results!
I love the fact it is Venus and Mars becoming angular. They are a pair after all. lol

I had to just shortly check for the date/ concert when Mr Sag was blurting out (on stage) that I was driving him crazy, and had to laugh when I saw his pr/my natal or that exact moment in time.

ASC 12°58 Scorpio
Uranus 13°09 Scorpio

Yes I guess that summarizes it, then, doesn`t it? lol

At that same time I was having in my pr/ his natal

DESC 9°53 Sagittarius
Lilith (mean) 8°28 Sagittarius

his natal Mercury 9°23 Sagittarius
my natal Neptune 9°57 Sag
(I never responded/ reacted to that comment in any way, but preferred to pretend it had never happened, how Neptunian. )
my natal NN 10°09 Sag

and

MC 4°55 Pisces
PoF 4°27 Pisces

(BTW Lilith and Uranus seems to be a constant companion of this storyline. lol)

posted January 20, 2016 06:50 AM            

sounds like your ASC could a little bit off.
It just is a tad too suspiciousl that BOTH occurences seem to be wrong about approximately the same timespan.

Well in my examples I checked those converse progressions worked superbly and pretty much "on time".

But I`ll let you know. My Sun-Venus-progression will peak in september.
Of course we still have to check what else is going on. Even a Sun-Venus-progression cannot save the day, if pretty much everything else points towards a bleak and gloomy period in life (though it might help survive it maybe).

posted January 20, 2016 04:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
easiest done when you download Planetdance, at least that is how I do it.

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