posted January 23, 2016 10:54 AM            

And this is MY spot.

posted January 23, 2016 06:59 PM            

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Look at when Serge & Jane got together;

PROGRESSED CONVERSED COMPOSITE;

^ they both went through a conversed New Moon, his' 8 separating while hers 8 applying.

In the secondary progressed Compo this ^ was an exact "solstice opposition".
But Here only him an applying pSun/pMoon square by 6. And her a pMoon/nSun applying opp. by 10. By far not so special aligned as in the conversed realm, as we see. Which ofcourse is extremely interesting.

Also, we find Nine's unlocking key; his progressed Moon conj her ASC (about exact). I'm now sure as I can be that ASTRO.COM gives the wrong TOB for her (3:00 pm) while ASTROTHEME gives 11:00 am (must be right).

Will look a bit further if I can find more than just their progressed Compo Venus conjunct Mars, applying within 2 deg. Although I do think THAT is already strong enough.

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I noticed;
his p Sun: 21'22 Taurus
her cp Venus: 21'46 Scorpio

posted January 23, 2016 08:54 PM            

We will then find;

- my pVenus: 4'30 Libra
- his pMars: 4'32 Cancer

- his pVenus: 12'51 Taurus
- my pMars: 12'49 Aqua

progressed compo;

pVenus: 23'40'50 Cancer
pMars: 23'40'50 Aries

Yea, ofcourse this ^ would be the worst you can find, not? a DW square!

On the other hand, I find it extremely interesting that this occurs SOOO exact at the same time! AND that both our pVenus/pMars midpoints are exactly conjunct too!

Okay..

Now I'm gonna look at the conversed realm at that time;

- my cp Venus: 26'07 Taurus
- my cp Mars: 16'02 Aqua

- his cp venus: 15'07 Aqua
- his cp Mars: 16'09 Taurus

CP Composite;

cp Venus: 5'37 Aries
cp Mars: 1'05 Aries

posted January 23, 2016 09:38 PM            

- my pVenus: 4'30 Libra
- his pSun: 6'15 Gem
- his nMars 10'38 Gem

- his nVenus: 28'45 Pisces
- my pSun: 27'49 Virgo

(his natal Asc 26'47 Virgo)

And OFCOURSE, the big question will Always be; WHEN do we jump into Nine's unlocking key..

Let me see..

Well it's at the least interesting that my New Moon late december '21 falls exactly (within 1) on his n Asc. But the nice applying ones above not within 2 yet then. Worrisome gap!! Wow, his Cp Sun also exactly on his natal desc to-2-minutes! (his cp Sun 26'49 Pisces / my p Moon 26'49 Virgo / my p Sun 26'04 Virgo / his n Asc 26'47 Virgo)

He's also applying to a new Moon by 15 deg then.
8 Months later we'll have a prog compo New Moon. Mine 8 deg separating / his 8 applying.

posted January 23, 2016 11:30 PM            

My prog ASC and Moon were in mid Aries, prog Sun was at late Virgo,
His prog ASc and Sun were in mid Saggy, prog Moon was 0' Taurus
I am a natal Sun in Virgo, Moon in Gem, ASC in Pisces
He is a natal Scorpio Sun, Moon in Taurus, ASC is Scorpio

The key was not applicable at the onset of the relationship either, because it was an year before it.

I havent checked the converse progressions thou

posted January 24, 2016 05:23 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Wait a minute! You can compare cp to p? But then there will be lots of hits! No?

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DM,

that is why we have to keep the orbs really tight, if we want to look at specific timeframes (larger orbs are applicable to access the underlying development).

And while there will be some hits (though not as much as I expected honestly), again I want to stress, that they have to be connected to the progressed or natal angles or luminaries to have a profound lasting and lifechanging effect. (though there might be exceptions of course, like certain Saturn-involvement).

You are right though, the more methods we apply, the more likely it will be that we find ANY hits.
Question is do they mean anything? and if so what do they mean?

That is why I think we need to have be very clear about our approach and what we are looking for.

posted January 24, 2016 08:05 AM            

Well, it went like this;
I looked at the exact moment Mr-T will have a secondary progressed NEW MOON, that's 20-4-2023 at 5'48 GEM (so pSun and pMoon there to-the-minute).
I was curious if there were some connections to this new Moon in any realm.
So I went to the conversed planets at that exact date 20-4-'23.
I saw his cp Moon at 8'35 Libra.
And then I suddenly saw my conversed quotidian Asc at 8'42 Libra. And I thought ow nice! And then: ow my secondary-p Moon is 12'27 Libra, funny.
But that was just the start.

At 1st I thought I was doing something wrong or .. this can't be true / an angle mishap calculation or so! So I checked.. I checked others to that date.. but well, no alignments at all as the below we have! ALL angle RETURNS somehow, I really didn't know what I saw! Crazy! I still don't know what to think of it.. but well ofcourse, the most interesting of this all is that it's exactly at the day of his secondary-p NEW MOON! I'm still seeing one big mess bunch here below also..

What this says to me? Well, there's somehow a walk-in-sync ALREADY with our angles in reference to (t)his NEW MOON or current lunar cycle. Even the secondary progressed angels are clearly involved. To be honest, I disregarded them a bit but as I see it now... they're all part of one big cycle in which everything connected!

20-4-2023;

HIM:

Quotidian Asc: 20'40 Libra.
Secondary Asc: 20'50 libra

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ME:

Converse quotidian Asc: 8'42 libra
Secondary Asc: 8'44 libra

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HIM:

Converse quotidian Asc: 2'58 Virgo
Converse secondary Asc: 2'20 Virgo

****

ME:

Converse secondary Asc: 29'21 cancer
Quotidian Asc: 29'48 cancer

^ I think it's partly logical

posted January 24, 2016 08:19 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
HUNDRED.

And this is MY spot.

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This made me dream about Jensen/Dean!
Thanks

posted January 24, 2016 08:29 AM            

So last night

my quotidian chart (forward only)
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ASC conjunct my name in his chart exact
ASC conjunct his Eros

Also interesting to note

ASC conjunct my Jupiter 1°23 a
DESC conjunct his Jupiter 0°19 a
ASC conjunct his pVenus 0°26 a

my individual experience:
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ASC= Neptune/Node 0°01
yeah definitely a bit of bewilderment there lol

(just been picking out the closest pictures here)

Well interpretation:
"appearing strange to others, or others appear strange" lol

composite of my pr - his natal
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ASC conjunct my n Juno 0°45 s
MC conjunct my n Mercury 0°06 s
MC conjunct my n Sun 0°47 a

DESC conjunct his n Lilith 0°20 a

midpoints:

Saturn = Pluto /MC 0°01
Neptune = Venus/Node 0°00
Pluto = Uranus/ASC 0°02
ASC = Moon/Venus 0°08
ASC = SAturn/Pluto 0°02
MC = Venus/Mars 0°17

And yes, there was quite a bit of a Hu? - factor. And a: what`s up with YOU?

Saturn= Pluto/MC
The conspicuous threat of loss; potential scandal; hard, hard work; overcoming of difficulties through extreme patience and hard work

- hm, does not seem to fit so well.

Neptune = Venus/Node
revelling in romantic or idealized ideas of love; a spiritual love connection

Pluto = Uranus/ASC
Sudden new acquaintances. Surprising changes;

ASC = Saturn/Pluto
Others fit themselves, suit themselves, only very slowly. Relations to quite different persons.

ASC = Moon/Venus
Love acquaintances of a woman, Affectionate behaviour towards others; being well-received.

MC = Venus/Mars
To inflame. Desire. Intimate acquaintances, establishing of a sex-relationship (Ebertins words, not mine. and NO ).

posted January 24, 2016 08:41 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Orange,

I don`t believe in THE unlocking key either, though I do think Moon to angles is very potent, as is Sun.
What I believe however is, what NOel Tyl and Ronald Davison emphasized, too, in their books, nothing outstanding/ major in life happens without the participation of the angles or Sun and Moon, possibly nodal axis as well (though "participation" can be a rather broad area of course).

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posted January 24, 2016 10:56 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
This made me dream about Jensen/Dean!
Thanks

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posted January 24, 2016 11:23 AM            

HIS quotidian chart had

IC conjunct Jupiter 1°45 a, possibly more pointing to today though.

and his individual midpoints

Jupiter = Venus/MC 0°12
Pluto = Sun/ASC 0°07
MC = Moon/ASC 0°18
MC = Mars/Node 0°03

Jupiter = Venus/MC
The sensation of happiness and love. Wishes that come true.

Pluto = Sun/ASC
The power through personal persuasion, the desire to obtain influence.
Fated events, a turn of destiny.

MC = Moon/ASC
The building of personal relationship upon a spiritual basis, the
tendency to expose oneself to the influence of women.

And the compospite of his quotidian to my natal

Moon almost conjunct DESC (2 degrees applying), however c-Moon conjunct his n ASC by 6 minutes applying

NN conjunct 2nd housecusp (0°21 applying)

IC conjunct his n Neptune

Mercury in exact square to Pluto - 3 minutes separating (Sun applies to the square to Pluto within about half a degree, too, so will become exact somewhen in the next half year)

midpoints

Sun = Venus/MC 0°11
(same I had at the fanmeeting LOL)

Mercury= Venus/MC 0°47

Venus = ASC/MC 0°52
Venus = Moon/MC 0°04

Neptune = Jupiter/MC 0°14
Pluto= Venus/MC 0°46

ASC = Mars/Saturn 0°07

MC = Saturn/Node 0°15

(well it is just fitting that it was also having some of the really strained ones).

Sun = Venus/MC
the desire to catch lime-light, the
expectation of admiration from other people; confident sense of
attractiveness; success.
The bliss of being loved by another person

Mercury = Venus/MC
working as a writer or some other kind of artist. To make acquaintances easily. To discuss beauty and enjoy beautiful objects. Sometimes those midpoints pictures are so spot on it gets embarassing. lol

Venus = ASC/MC (had that myself on the meeting. lol)
The sense of beauty. Harmony. comfort

Venus = Moon/MC
To have a preference for women
Deep attachments in one's love-life. Significant relationships are
possible.
(well I wouldn´t go THAT far)

Neptune = Jupiter/MC
A premonition of loss.
befuddlement. Lack of realism.
idealism, creativity. dreamy, big hopes, sometimes unrealistic

Pluto = Venus/MC
One who loves change. To long for change and look for a transformation.
Tremendous focus on an artistic career; cultural exposure, publicity.
An unusual power of attraction. A strange providence in love relationship.

and now for the really depressing ones

ASC = Mars/Saturn
Struggling for every step of advancement

posted January 24, 2016 11:39 AM            

DESC conjunct Mars 0°05
- with ASC falling onto HIS Chiron. Poor guy

MC on 29°35 Capricorn nearing our compospite ASC on 1°22 Aquarius

POF on 00°06 Libra (on the AP!) conjunct 6th house, and possibly still in orb for having triggered his Vertex on 28 Virgo before, in fact this was possibly a reaction to something I did 2 days before, when it would have been exact. lol

Moon on 25°54 Gemini, opposing my n Sun on 25°56 SAg, and our compospite Sun on 26°26 Sag

In terms of midpoints I found this one interesting

MC= URanus/Pluto 0°00
I mean that is really exact. lol

Noel Tyl interpretes it as:
Great awareness of what is going on.

other meanings:
To be adaptable. The talent of applying oneself to changed conditions. To change by leaps and bounds. To be exposed to jerking changes.
the
instant grasp and exploitation of every situation.

Other relevant midpoints

Mars = Satsurn/MC 0°03
To terminate or interrupt work. Sorrows brought on by one's own actions.

ASC = Saturn/MC 0°02
Working with others with compassion and serious understanding. being placed in unfortunate circumstances.

ASC = Sun/&Mercury 0°40
To be conscious of one's surroundings. Correspondence. Conversations. Acquaintances.

MC= Mars/NOde 0°10
excellent teamwork. entering into individual relationships. SEx-union (Ebertin doesn`t like to mince words I guess. lol)

MC = Node/ASC 0°07
Desire to establish an inner contact with other people. sense of community

MC= Moon/Venus 0°20
A heart filled with love. success, feeling valuable.

Oh well, of course we usualy have to tone the interpretationd down a notch, but principally it does not sound far off.

posted January 24, 2016 11:57 AM            

that is amazing!
And yes, like an inbuilt clock or something.

I noticed something yesterday, too, though it does not have anything to do with either converse progressions or quotidian angles.

Buuuut....

Last year - 4th may 2015, I was having a progressed fullmoon which sort of coincided with a transiting fullmoon.

The transiting fullmoon at 4th may 2015 at 5: 42 a.m.

Tr Sun 13°22 Taurus
Tr Moon 13°22 Scorpio

(Tr ASC 00°43 Taurus, falling into my 5th house cusp and Tr DESC falling onto my n DESC on 1°21 Scorpio)

my progressed fullmoon at exact that time, not completely precise but almost

pSun 07°03 Aquarius
pMoon 07°02 Leo

But seriously, one minute? That is good enough for me!

Of course they are not aspecting each other, but I found it interesting nevertheless.

my Quotidian ASC on that time was 26°06 Cancer
(conjunct HIS n Juno by 1°31 applying and my Quotidian DESC conjunct his n Venus by 0°11 separating)

my Quotidian MC on 29°38 Pisces, on the AP again (the meeting point between the individual and the public)

(it also contains the tightest midpoint of that chart MC = Venus/Uranus by only 3 minutes).

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Now I wasn`t even aware of this but yesterday suddenly realized something else about HIS chart yesterday.

This morning`s fullmoon fell onto these degrees

Tr Sun 3°29 Aquarius
Tr Moon 3°29 Leo

(Tr ASC on 18°58 Scorpio. LOL conj his Valentine and our composite MC; Tr Moon on the composite DESC by 2 degrees)

Anyway, what I found so interesting is that he has in his progressed chart THIS

pSun 3°44 Aquarius
pMoon 3°42 Taurus

The first quarter moon, 2 minutes applying, coinciding with a transiting fullmoon.

his tightest midpoint

Jupiter = Venus/MC 0°06
*Sighs*
the one he had at the fanmeeting, too.

"To enjoy a blissful feeling because of love."

Though he had this one as well, just made me laugh. lol

"MC/MA=VE To be sexually stimulated. To stimulate others.

AS/SO=PL No steady relationships. Always forming new relationships. Change of associations with others. A change of social intercourse during meal times
Fated events, a turn of destiny.

MO/MA=AS Acquaintances with woman or with the future wife. Working relations with other people in the surroundings.
(well too bad he already IS married )

SA/PL=AS Others fit themselves, suit themselves, only very slowly. Slow separation from others. The beginning of a separation which lasts for some time. Relations to quite different persons.
(very conflicting midpoint pictures here)

MO/MA=MC The wakeful state of the brain. Consciousness. Day-consciousness. One pays attention, is wide awake.Marriage thoughts, self-promotion, getting things off the ground. A woman with strong principles. Getting married.

(well we know that`s true, as he already is)

M.C. TO MIDPOINT MARS/NODE
Excellent team-work, partnership values important. Marriage.

(well he got married too soon then, his quarter Moon starts just now. lol )

M.C. TO MIDPOINT URANUS/NEPTUNE
Supernatural concerns come into play; guidance sought from other
realms or never-before tapped sources.

AS I said, at least they serve to entertain. lol

posted January 24, 2016 05:28 PM              

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
DM,

that is why we have to keep the orbs really tight, if we want to look at specific timeframes (larger orbs are applicable to access the underlying development).

And while there will be some hits (though not as much as I expected honestly), again I want to stress, that they have to be connected to the progressed or natal angles or luminaries to have a profound lasting and lifechanging effect. (though there might be exceptions of course, like certain Saturn-involvement).

You are right though, the more methods we apply, the more likely it will be that we find ANY hits.
Question is do they mean anything? and if so what do they mean?

That is why I think we need to have be very clear about our approach and what we are looking for.

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posted January 25, 2016 05:38 AM            

pr c-Moon 26°26 Gemini
n c-Sun 26°26 Sagittarius

posted January 25, 2016 05:52 AM            

my pMoon conjunct his n DESC on 25°35 Virgo exact

and the week before on 10th july 2018:

his pMoon conjunct my n DESC on 07°04 Gemini exact

which of course leads to this:

13th july 2018:

pr c-Moon 01°19 Leo
n c-DESC 01°19 Leo

and then a bit later

26th january 2019

pr c-Sun 08°49 Aquarius
pr c-Moon 08°49 Leo

posted January 25, 2016 11:08 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, it`s interesting.
The pr composite is heading towards a fullmoon, too.

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It's interesting about this progressed composite full moon.

posted January 25, 2016 12:28 PM            

my brother and his girlfriend got together when their composite had a pr sesisquare between Sun and Moon.

now, when their pr composite is heading towards a last quarter Moon, they are expecting their first child. The aspect is still about 8-9 degrees away, and the assumed delivery date is on 25th july, so it will be born probably around the time their last quarter moon peaks.

In between they had of course a progressed fullmoon, and I think it was the year they moved in together.