posted February 15, 2016 11:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Oh...Venus-Uranus opposition sounds hard...I would imagine it's really good (exciting) when it's good though?

I checked and our Davison NN is conjunct the composite SN, too. Probably something mathematical? Though I wonder how often that occurs.

Well in our case we are 18 years apart and have the same NN...so, Davison will show the date when the nodal axis had flipped (which it does every 9 years...as you probably know...but other readers may not. )

Davison with my husband looks weirdly similar to the composite. We don't have Saturn on the IC in Davison.

Are you and your guy close in age? Maybe that explains it.

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Actually no, we are 11 years apart. Please don't call me a cougar
Yes, the venus uranus sucks big balls!!!! arrrgh so frustrating. but keeps it so fresh and exciting at the same time. Since we're not officially together, I'm not sure how it would play out if we were.
Yep I would say that NN/SN thing must be a mathematical thingy

posted February 16, 2016 08:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I checked and our Davison NN is conjunct the composite SN, too. Probably something mathematical? Though I wonder how often that occurs.

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Originally posted by EmGem:
Yep I would say that NN/SN thing must be a mathematical thingy

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Sorry to intrude.

I checked our Composite and Davison and the NN in both Composite and Davison are still in the same sign. There is only a change in the houses, so there isn't a NN/SN Composite/Davison thing in our case. It could still just be a mathematical thingy though... I just thought I would share, because now I am wondering too.

posted February 16, 2016 10:34 AM            

So it's not math...must be magic.

@EmGem,

Can I ask...how close is the node conjunction, between composite and Davison?

Thanks for answering my questions ~ I agree with you about moon/Uranus. The weird thing with my husband is, we can be getting along fine one moment and have a huge argument out of nowhere, seemingly out of nothing. The argument may not sound huge, no yelling, but I might get so upset I won't talk to him for days or even weeks....Oh and the moon is squaring Pluto so there you see the "silent" treatment. He doesn't even seem to mind this anymore, he just waits patiently for me to snap out of it. My moon is conjunct the composite Chiron, forming the apex of a kite with those minor triangles...I feel like I'm the one taking the biggest hit. And I have an 8H moon, so again...brooding. But if I didn't have these rest periods I don't think we could've made it.

I didn't really blink an eye about the 11 year age difference. You're only a cougar if you're chasing something...if they come to you (begging in some cases ) how is that like a cougar?

posted February 16, 2016 11:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
aside from Saturn who, for better or worse, is at culprit here, especially Saturn to Sun-Venus-Moon-ASC

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Is this question for me, Orange?

posted February 16, 2016 11:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Readytochill:
Faith,

What do you think about your composite north node in the 5th? How has that played out in your marriage?

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Hi again!

I think it represents our children, first of all. We have kids, have stayed together for the kids' sake through rough patches, we each change for the sake of the kids. So, for instance, my husband is very religious and wanted that to shape the family. But it was having such a negative impact on our (Scorpio) daughter that he dropped it. The relationship forced him to grow, spiritually.

Scorpio in the 5th matches our dream of retiring on a live-aboard sailboat, making a death-defying activity our leisure activity.

The NN conjunct Mercury and Neptune creates TELEPATHY. For instance the first time I wrote to you, my husband walked in. He couldn't see my computer screen. Notice the title here is "Which aspects make for a long term relationship/marriage?"

My husband started joking that he should become a professional matchmaker, and he asked, "What kind of criteria would we use to see which two people would make the best match??"

WHILE I'm at an astrology forum wondering the same thing. And stuff like that happens all the time.

He doesn't know I'm on an astrology forum, he hates astrology (but he knows I do it). Yet he actually created an astronomy-related forum, they use a lot of the same terms we use, so he's in the other room, on his forum, in a "parallel universe" sometimes.

And forums are recreation. But stargazing, finding meaning in life is Scorpio. Hence -> 5H Scorpio.

posted February 16, 2016 11:18 AM            

Glad I was able to point out your 5th house north node.

posted February 16, 2016 11:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Readytochill:
Faith,

Glad I was able to point out your 5th house north node.

I have that with my boyfriend and I don't know what it's supposed to mean or how it's been playing out. I've tried searching but there isn't much information about it.

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Hmm! Have you posted your composite anywhere...and are you willing to? If so I will take a look, see if I spot anything.

posted February 16, 2016 11:24 AM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:
@Faith
or anyone who might know
May I ask sth about the comparison between davison and composite, too?
I also have this NN conjunction between them (I really hope that's magic as you said Faith ), but I also have the Asc/Dsc and IC/MC axis reversed. Aries/Libra in compo, Libra/Aries in Davison, Cancer/Cap in compo, Cap/Cancer in Davison. Is it something common or is it supposed to mean something? I was somewhat impressed by it, but I don't really know if I should pay attention to it!
Thank you!

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I think angle conjunctions are always big!

I will check out some charts later and see what I see, and get back to you...I haven't paid much attention to Davison yet, so I don't have any input.

posted February 16, 2016 11:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I think angle conjunctions are always big!

I will check out some charts later and see what I see, and get back to you...I haven't paid much attention to Davison yet, so I don't have any input.

Maybe someone else does.

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Ok, really grateful if you find something! I ll wait
Thank you!!!

edit : This conjunction that I mentioned is quite tight if that helps...4 19' - 4 42' for the IC/MC reversed/ 3 47'- 4 17' for the Asc/Dsc axis, quite intriguing!

posted February 16, 2016 11:30 AM            

Looks like we posted at the same time. I need to head out for work so I'll read what you posted and reply when I can.

posted February 16, 2016 04:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
^ You could never intrude! Cool people (like you) always welcome.

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Thank you, you are a sweetheart Faith!

posted February 16, 2016 05:22 PM            

Ah now I understand, with you DSC and the Uranian vibe! Makes things exciting for sure and it sounds like you need that unpredictability at times. I have Uranus bang smack on my ASC so I'm used to that energy too

Our composite SN is conjunct Davison NN by 2 degrees. You think it's magic? hmmmm maybe it's not mathematical after all

posted February 16, 2016 11:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:

For instance the first time I wrote to you, my husband walked in. He couldn't see my computer screen. Notice the title here is "Which aspects make for a long term relationship/marriage?"

My husband started joking that he should become a professional matchmaker, and he asked, "What kind of criteria would we use to see which two people would make the best match??"

WHILE I'm at an astrology forum wondering the same thing. And stuff like that happens all the time.

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Hahaha that is incredible, Faith!!
I love those moments when you just feel in sync

posted February 16, 2016 11:28 PM            

His Saturn also squares my Nodes 3°, parallels my Jupiter 0°
My Saturn parallels his Mars-DESC 0°

From the moment I met him and talked to him, I knew I wanted to marry him and he thought the same thing. So I guess this shows love at first sight is real and does exist!!

I just knew he'd be someone very important in my life. We naturally trust each other and feel a sense of comfort and belonging with one another. He always tells me I am the only one who truly understands him and can comfort him. <3 Our love and affection just grows and grows and keeps geting sweeter by the day.

posted February 17, 2016 11:09 AM            

@EmGem

Thanks for answering about the nodes. I thought it would be a wider orb. Shows what I know! (not much )

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That's so good that your hubby is so patient with you he's able to take you just as you are.

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Sort of...but please be aware that any time I was sulking it was his fault, and if I told you the whole stories you would take my side and ask, "Why didn't you sulk longer?"

I'm sorry your husband put you through that though. Men shouldn't sulk. It's not manly and not cool like it is when a woman sulks.

posted February 17, 2016 11:29 AM            

Sighhhhhh

You say on another thread that you don't know what you want to do about marriage, then you post this composite that I just love and hear wedding bells when I look at it!?

I know it's got that grand cross, but it's just so pretty anyway. And the grand cross planets fall on the angles so it Means Something. Vertex on the DSC, even.

Who has a chart like this??? I've never seen anything like it!

Chart ruler exactly conjunct the sun, conjunct the ASC. Unbelievable.

TWO yods, one with Gemini Jupiter at the apex, conjunct Mars, and one with Pluto at the apex, quincunx Mercury which is on the DSC.

I get the feeling communication is HUGE here. Tell me about your communication with him? And do you have any planets conjunct that Jupiter-Mars in Gemini?

With the 5H NN in Pisces, and its ruler Neptune conjunct the IC in Capricorn, I think the "lesson" would be to both learn to be comfortable and happy with a spiritual orientation that you foster in each other. To learn how to put arguments and nit-picking on the backburner and actually...transcend everything mundane, and feel joy together (composite Leo moon!).

Sure, that's ideal for all couples, but not as possible for all couples. I think you two come together to manifest a gift, like a karmic reward or something. That is a total guess but it's the impression I get.

posted February 17, 2016 12:20 PM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:
I also have the Asc/Dsc and IC/MC axis reversed. Aries/Libra in compo, Libra/Aries in Davison, Cancer/Cap in compo, Cap/Cancer in Davison. Is it something common or is it supposed to mean something? I was somewhat impressed by it, but I don't really know if I should pay attention to it!
Thank you!

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K,

1) Me and my friend

Composite IC 10 Sag
Davison MC 10 Sag

No ASC conjunction (between composite & Davison).

2) Her with her boyfriend

Composite ASC 8 Sag
Davison ASC 5 Sag

Composite MC 22 Virgo
Davison MC 22 Virgo

3) Between myself and that friend's boyfriend

Composite MC 7 Aqua
Davison MC 7 Aqua

No ASC conjunction

4) Between my husband and that friend's boyfriend, never met and don't know each other at all.

Composite MC 15 Cap
Davison MC 15 Cap

Interesting because if they ever meet, it will be through me, and my sun is at 15 Cap.

No ASC conjunction

5) Between that friend and my husband:

Composite MC 18 Taurus
Davison IC 18 Taurus

No ASC conjunction

6) This sample is myself and a friend, very interesting relationship.

Composite MC 3 Pisces
Davison IC 3 Pisces

No ASC conjunction

7) That same friend with my husband, not a relationship, never met:

Composite MC 11 Aqua
Davison IC 11 Aqua

No ASC conjunction

8) Me with my husband

Angles the exact same in composite and Davison.

9) Between another friend and my husband:

Composite MC 26 Cap
Davison MC 26 Cap

No ASC conjunction

10) I just made up a date and time at random, and compared it with myself:

Angles stay the same in both charts.

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CONCLUSIONS:

* The MC-IC axis was either the same or reversed in all charts in this sample. I think it's probable that this is a constant with all charts.

* The ASC-DSC axis appears to be more sensitive to showing an actual relationship. All actual romantic relationships above have the DSC-DSC conjunction, though not always exact. Could be just coincidence and I'd have to study that more.

* However, a DSC-DSC conjunction may not necessarily indicate a relationship, as I found this between myself and a made up chart.

posted February 17, 2016 12:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Sunnya:
Thank you, you are a sweetheart Faith!

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posted February 17, 2016 12:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
K,

1) Me and my friend

Composite IC 10 Sag
Davison MC 10 Sag

No ASC conjunction (between composite & Davison).

2) Her with her boyfriend

Composite ASC 8 Sag
Davison ASC 5 Sag

Composite MC 22 Virgo
Davison MC 22 Virgo

3) Between myself and that friend's boyfriend

Composite MC 7 Aqua
Davison MC 7 Aqua

No ASC conjunction

4) Between my husband and that friend's boyfriend, never met and don't know each other at all.

Composite MC 15 Cap
Davison MC 15 Cap

Interesting because if they ever meet, it will be through me, and my sun is at 15 Cap.

No ASC conjunction

5) Between that friend and my husband:

Composite MC 18 Taurus
Davison IC 18 Taurus

No ASC conjunction

6) This sample is myself and a friend, very interesting relationship.

Composite MC 3 Pisces
Davison IC 3 Pisces

No ASC conjunction

7) That same friend with my husband, not a relationship, never met:

Composite MC 11 Aqua
Davison IC 11 Aqua

No ASC conjunction

8) Me with my husband

Angles the exact same in composite and Davison.

9) Between another friend and my husband:

Composite MC 26 Cap
Davison MC 26 Cap

No ASC conjunction

10) I just made up a date and time at random, and compared it with myself:

Angles stay the same in both charts.

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CONCLUSIONS:

* The MC-IC axis was either the same or reversed in all charts in this sample. I think it's probable that this is a constant with all charts.

* The ASC-DSC axis appears to be more sensitive to showing an actual relationship. All actual romantic relationships above have the DSC-DSC conjunction, though not always exact. Could be just coincidence and I'd have to study that more.

* However, a DSC-DSC conjunction may not necessarily indicate a relationship, as I found this between myself and a made up chart.

* I did not encounter another sample with the ASC-DSC axis reversed between composite and Davison. So I don't know where to begin guessing what it means.

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posted February 17, 2016 12:58 PM            

So, yes, I THINK:

* MC-IC is always either the same or reversed.
* ASC-DSC is not always the same. Tentatively, I think it's more likely to be the same if there is an actual romantic relationship.
* ASC-DSC reversal is rare.

posted February 17, 2016 01:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
You're welcome, I liked exploring that and learning.

So, yes, I THINK:

* MC-IC is always either the same or reversed.
* ASC-DSC is not always the same. Tentatively, I think it's more likely to be the same if there is an actual romantic relationship.
* ASC-DSC reversal is rare.

However, that last one may be a function of geography. (?) Is your love interest from another part of the world?

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posted February 18, 2016 04:29 PM            

I love you and your husband's dream of retiring on a boat and doing something death defying. It sounds so romantic and fun!

That telepathic moment and the fact about the forums are insane! It must be so amazing and maybe a bit freaky? lol that you're in tune with each other like that.

Thank you SO much for looking at our composite. Our communication is sporadic which I don't mind most of the time but we do restrict what we say at times. The brutal honesty comes out when we're arguing. But yes, communication is a HUGE thing when it occurs. It causes havoc yet it smooths things over. We fight like cats and dogs but we make up. To get the gist of how our communication is:

(Us arguing about something)
Me: Go away!
Him: Calm down! You're being effing insane!
Me: I don't care! I don't want to see you! But drive safely, it's windy out and raining real bad, but still go away!
Him: you're a b1tch. I love you.

I'm terrible, I know...

(A couple hours later)
Me: I just feel like (calmly rambling on about what happened)
Him: Well we could do this.. (Says a logical solution)
Me: ok
Him: I love you. Can I see you now?
Me: yes, I missed you

I don't have any planets conjunct that mars/Jupiter conjunction but he has his 7th house moon conjunct composite Mars. What does that mean? Do I irritate him? Lol

Here's the natal to composite conjunctions. I know some prefer them to be tight but I kept it 9 degrees and under.
Him
N moon conjunct C mars but not Jupiter
N mars conjunct C mercury
N sun/mercury/saturn/neptune/uranus conjunct C Saturn/Neptune/Uranus
N north node conjunct C north node

Me
N moon conjunct C sun/venus
N Venus/Mars conjunct C moon.

We've talked about marriage just recently. Just in general, not marriage with each other.

I'm hesitant about marriage in general because I feel like it might mess things up. I also feel that people only make things work in marriages because they don't want to go through a divorce and mess up their family. To me, staying together without the contract speaks more volumes than staying together because of that contract. I do fantasize about proposals, throwing a beautiful wedding, and just being so in love though.

He has said that he never wants to get married because he doesn't want to be tied down.

But he has said that he likes that I don't restrict him.

This relationship has been hard and I feel like I can't do it anymore. He's the one who tries to keep it together when I want to let go.