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Topic: Which aspects make for a long term relationship/marriage?
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Neptunian Venus
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posted February 14, 2016 06:37 AM
  
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ScorpieScorp
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posted February 14, 2016 11:39 AM
I'd like to know as well...I know that Venus/Moon gives you that "I want to marry this person feeling" I would think healthy aspects between Sun/Moon, and Moon/Moon would be important... Some Mars/Venus to keep things sizzling..  Solid Mercury aspects to that you are on the same page.. Harmonious Saturn aspects to glue it all together... IP: Logged |
Gracha
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posted February 14, 2016 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
I'd like to know as well...I know that Venus/Moon gives you that "I want to marry this person feeling" I would think healthy aspects between Sun/Moon, and Moon/Moon would be important... Some Mars/Venus to keep things sizzling.. Solid Mercury aspects to that you are on the same page.. Harmonious Saturn aspects to glue it all together...
Really so with venus moon, who'd you say loves most or wants to marry? Like say moon in gemini with venus/mars in gemini how'd that interaction go? IP: Logged |
Nyctea
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posted February 14, 2016 02:04 PM
It's been 3 years since my boyfriend and I are dating. Our Saturn's make aspects to ALL of our planets(150% orbs on astro.com), both sides. We can go thru thick and thin and still be together. Buuut on the downside, our relationship is VERY difficult! We're very different.But I guess Saturn/Venus or Saturn/Moon? Easy aspects bc Saturn is harsh, I don't like it. IP: Logged |
Nyctea
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posted February 14, 2016 02:27 PM
About what ScorpieScorp said. My boyfriend and I don't have Venus/Moon (2 squares, 12 degree orbs). He's the one who wants to marry me...My Sun squares his Moon and this is the closest Sun/Moon we have. We don't have Moon/Moon. We have Mars opposite Venus. Anyway, i'm sure it's a Saturn thing. IP: Logged |
Nyctea
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posted February 14, 2016 02:29 PM
Because even if I don't want to be with him anymore(same for him), we just can't break up... Sometimes our relationship is unbearable. Again, Saturn!IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted February 14, 2016 02:40 PM
No wonder, if I put the orb on astro.com on 150%, everything will be in aspect to everything as well. I especially like our Venus-Pluto-trine with 13 degree orb, that the 150% orb on astro.com delivers.
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Beyond what already has been said, closed aspect patterns involving personal planets and possibly Saturn often make for considerable glue (sometimes like a jail). IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted February 14, 2016 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No wonder, if I put the orb on astro.com on 150%, everything will be in aspect to everything as well. I especially like our Venus-Pluto-trine with 13 degree orb, that the 150% orb on astro.com delivers.
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athenaia
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posted February 14, 2016 04:41 PM
Usually reducing the orb to 40% gives a clear picture on the most potent aspects IP: Logged |
Sylven
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posted February 14, 2016 05:01 PM
Saturn of my husband is 6 degrees from my Sun. It's huge. 40% won't show that. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted February 14, 2016 05:07 PM
Not arguing about percentages, but a 6 degree anything has rarely been huge; usually something else is at play adding to it, like a close Saturn-Sun aspect inc omposite, a parallel (which it is most often) or a Sun-Saturn-progression that makes it huge.
Oh and of course if some other planet is aspecting Sun and Saturn this pulls it even more to the centre as well. What is your age difference btw?
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I am not using percentage on astro.com anyway. As my thoughts usually differ from theirs.
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yungang_grotto
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posted February 14, 2016 05:58 PM
I learn more and more every day about how important taking the natal charts into account is when attempting to understand why something can work out for the long term with any two people. Or when trying to determine why it didn't work. Or when trying to understand them at all. I say this as someone who began studying synastry in depth before I knew anything much about astrology. I familiarized myself with the dynamics of interchart aspects simultaneous with my learning about natal chart analysis. So I'm still redressing the balance. It's all there, in the natals, transits, progressions, solar arc, etc. You can see very well the reasons for things working out or not by peering deeply into the natal and aspects to it. That person's relationship karma matters at least a subtle shade more than the interchart aspects. I know that's maybe wild to say but I think taking full account of the individuals is really necessary. Can they do the work? Are they ready to silly themselves to long term LOVE?
You could give somebody who was not ready a person who made all of these gorgeous aspects and they might not be able to make it happen because they aren't ready... karmically they aren't there yet. There's more to learn. That's what happened with me. 8 years ago or something, my present lover and I were not ready. Now we have learned a lot and experienced a lot and know better how to care for and value each other, to be careful and kind and consider one another's feelings more deeply; and just be ourselves and love one another too.
The 9th harmonic comparison I really do think is very likely crucial for determining whether a long term association will be truly fulfilling. They need to make you feel excited to be your most authentic self. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted February 14, 2016 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
You could give somebody who was not ready a person who made all of these gorgeous aspects and they might not be able to make it happen because they aren't ready... karmically they aren't there yet. There's more to learn. That's what happened with me. 8 years ago or something, my present lover and I were not ready. Now we have learned a lot and experienced a lot and know better how to care for and value each other, to be careful and kind and consider one another's feelings more deeply; and just be ourselves and love one another too.
 I love that. My husband and I have been together 17 years. - We have tons of Saturn aspects including: * Venus conjunct Saturn
* Sun conjunct Saturn
* Composite Saturn exact on the IC - We also have positive Venus-Uranus to keep it interesting. - Composite is geometrical (tight, overlapping minor triangles) - We both have several planets at 5-7 degrees, forming a web of inter-aspects.
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todd
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posted February 14, 2016 07:11 PM
your vertex is at 24virgo43 with the node conjunct last jan 5th. you Jupiter/sun midpoint is at 23virgo56 conjunct the node on jan 9thI would say this is the period to break it off(maybe) now.
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EmGem
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posted February 14, 2016 08:32 PM
Faith, I've heard that composite Saturn conjunct IC may delay a relationship. Did this happen in your case?
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Faith
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posted February 14, 2016 09:31 PM
Hi EmGem,We have Mars-Juno on the ASC. Heavy Uranus synastry with transiting Uranus setting everything off. So, no, we got engaged after one date. I had been obsessed with him for about two months before that, and knew him for five months before taking a sudden interest (Uranus again.) So, seven months from meeting to our first date. A slight delay. But married almost exactly one year after we met.  quote:
How does this aspect feel for you guys?
It feels locked in. Maybe because his moon is on that composite IC-Saturn, and he wouldn't budge no matter what. A few times I have actually tried to push for separation...but if I ever wanted divorce I am 99% sure it would have to be entirely my doing. And we are just kind of Saturnine. He has sun trine Saturn exact, and I'm a Capricorn. Restraint is like the order of the day, sometimes excessively so. Saturn-IC is in LIBRA so while we could afford certain nice things, we would usually choose the more modest, barebones, humble stuff. Most of the time it's just our style and doesn't feel like a sacrifice. But when we first got married I think we took it too far, living beneath our means...it didn't make sense to other people. But that could also be that we both have a Scorpio NN and have to shed all the Taurus SN attachments. Libra Saturn on the IC, with composite Taurus SN...yes I see it now That explains a lot. Thanks for asking or I wouldn't have thought about it. IP: Logged |
EmGem
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posted February 15, 2016 12:03 AM
You're welcome Faith and thank you for the explanation. Good to know how it's played out for others ❤️Wow one year is super quick! That Mars/Juno wasted no time 😜 It's interesting. We have Saturn conjunct IC in Scorpio In the composite AND Davison which conjuncts his natal DSC. Not sure if that's a positive with Saturn there 😬And we have been delayed somewhat. We also have comp Uranus opposite Venus though which doesnt help matters at all. I know this is totally random - but that's me haha - I just noticed that the comp NN is conjunct the Davison SN. is that weird?! IP: Logged |
Sylven
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posted February 15, 2016 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Not arguing about percentages, but a 6 degree anything has rarely been huge; usually something else is at play adding to it, like a close Saturn-Sun aspect inc omposite, a parallel (which it is most often) or a Sun-Saturn-progression that makes it huge.
Oh and of course if some other planet is aspecting Sun and Saturn this pulls it even more to the centre as well. What is your age difference btw?
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I am not using percentage on astro.com anyway. As my thoughts usually differ from theirs.
Our age difference is 3 years. I mean huge as in I FEEL IT and it affects me more than once. There is no other significant Saturn thing going on in composite. It is only aspecting Uranus and Pluto. His Saturn is also squaring my Pluto exact. But I feel it on my Sun. Like his Saturn tries to restrict the way I shine, my self. I feel it as huge even with 6 degrees because I am much more Uranian and feel like breaking free. It's possible that's why I feel it. Like even a little is already making me itch. But on the positive side it has made me more patient, less impulsive. I really grew so I am not complaining. Sometimes though .... Maybe I should check if it's parallel (what was that called again?) I have seen 6 work with others as well. And, it is the Sun. Not saying I am 100% sure but I DO feel it! IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted February 15, 2016 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by EmGem:
Wow one year is super quick! That Mars/Juno wasted no time 😜
Exactly  quote:
Originally posted by EmGem:
It's interesting. We have Saturn conjunct IC in Scorpio In the composite AND Davison which conjuncts his natal DSC. Not sure if that's a positive with Saturn there 😬And we have been delayed somewhat. We also have comp Uranus opposite Venus though which doesnt help matters at all. I know this is totally random - but that's me haha - I just noticed that the comp NN is conjunct the Davison SN. is that weird?!
Oh...Venus-Uranus opposition sounds hard...I would imagine it's really good (exciting) when it's good though? I checked and our Davison NN is conjunct the composite SN, too. Probably something mathematical? Though I wonder how often that occurs. Well in our case we are 18 years apart and have the same NN...so, Davison will show the date when the nodal axis had flipped (which it does every 9 years...as you probably know...but other readers may not. ) Davison with my husband looks weirdly similar to the composite. We don't have Saturn on the IC in Davison. Are you and your guy close in age? Maybe that explains it. IP: Logged |
CosmiqPhuz
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posted February 15, 2016 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
We have Mars-Juno on the ASC. I had been obsessed with him for about two months before that, and knew him for five months before taking a sudden interest (Uranus again.) So, seven months from meeting to our first date. A slight delay. But married almost exactly one year after we met.
Faith, who is Mars-Juno? You or him? IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted February 15, 2016 09:49 PM
That's the composite.  We have Juno trine Juno in synastry; both mine and his are sextile the composite Juno. But no Mars-Mars, Mars-Juno, or ASC contacts. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted February 15, 2016 09:52 PM
I'm sure you all are jealous that I landed a composite moon square Pluto-Uranus, right? IP: Logged |
Readytochill
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posted February 15, 2016 09:59 PM
Faith,What do you think about your composite north node in the 5th? How has that played out in your marriage? IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted February 15, 2016 10:07 PM
aside from Saturn who, for better or worse, is at culprit here, especially Saturn to Sun-Venus-Moon-ASCalso look for Saturn - Chiron conjunction. This mongrel is so hard to break.. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted February 15, 2016 10:18 PM
@Readytochill  Oh you're right! I thought it was in the 4H! It's conjunct my 4H NN, I guess that's why. Be back later to answer. IP: Logged |
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