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mar1982delta
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posted March 22, 2016 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"Of course, be careful what you wish for, so perhaps I shoudn't say that at all, hahaha "

"Although in your case, it is different, he wasn't married in the first place, so...how could you expect that?"
Well he was in a relationship (He is ALWAYS in a relationship I guess. lol) and I disappeared for 2 years after our first meeting. lol I have been inclined to these disappearance acts quite often.


"And you already have observed that he doesn't do that with other people, so you don't need to be so humble, it is about you ! "
I just have a hard time to wrap my head around it, you know, donīt want to be all delusional.
He surely acts like it sometimes though, and repeatedly over the course of several years now. So maybe it`s time to finally believe it, of course now is pretty much too late.

And I was mesmerized with the way his wife was looking at him, when I first saw her and even later. She seemed/ seems to be worshipping the ground he is walking on. I mean I am *just* a fan, but I could never look THAT adoring at anyone. (well she was a fan before, at least why else would she have the poster of one of his early roles in her appartment - I only know that cause she put the pictures of her appartment online when she sold it).

Which might have been partly a problem, not just in terms of him, but generally. Even if I am totally completely head-over-heels- in love and crazy about someone, chances are they will never know, because I just play it TOO close to the chest.

I mean just returning his look and maintaining eyecontact after that performance last july when he took his bows and was so focused on me, well maintaining that eyecontact was nto easy for me, it made me feel like I had to go through fire, as there was no way to avoid or evade or run away or even hide behind some irony (no irony in nonverbal eyecontacts ) or witty remark or some vagueness, though while HE clearly had initiated that, it might have surprised him, too (hey he must have known by now how evasive I am!) cause he seemed clearly nervous all at once. lol

I do try though to be just a little more open, that does not mean I am owing anyone anything.



"So maybe it`s time to finally believe it"
to that!!!!


"I do try though to be just a little more open, that does not mean I am owing anyone anything."
I didn't understand that part totally, but...ok


"I could never look THAT adoring at anyone."
Yes, that seems weird to me, too. Although I can express/describe my feelings in writing (as I was doing to you in the above posts lol), I can't do it in person and especially for the person concerned in such an obvious way..lol


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posted March 22, 2016 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I didn't understand that part totally, but...ok "
It is hard to understand, but as I read part of the lunar-Uranus-mix.
It`s a feeling like if I admitted having deeper (romantic) feelings for someone requires a certain course of action that I might not want or am not able to follow. Does not really get more understandable I think.


"I can't do it in person and especially for the person concerned in such an obvious way..lol
writing is fine by me. But that kind of hero-worship? I don`t k now, seriously especially if you share your everyday life with someone else, it just felt odd to me.

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posted March 22, 2016 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"I didn't understand that part totally, but...ok "
It is hard to understand, but as I read part of the lunar-Uranus-mix.
It`s a feeling like if I admitted having deeper (romantic) feelings for someone requires a certain course of action that I might not want or am not able to follow. Does not really get more understandable I think.


"I can't do it in person and especially for the person concerned in such an obvious way..lol
writing is fine by me. But that kind of hero-worship? I don`t k now, seriously especially if you share your everyday life with someone else, it just felt odd to me.


Ok, now I understand. At least partly, lol. I try to put myself in your shoes, I mean, so that much is all I can understand!

This kind of hero-worship as you said, is not even healthy imo..

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posted March 22, 2016 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh, this is so very very very strange.

I was just checking the lunar returns for the turning point I mentioned (with the open air concert when he was clearly recognizing my physical transformation on monday that week and then on his own concert on friday blurting out I was driving him crazy) and like with the first meeting chart, he was having a lunar Return just a few hours prior his solo concert!

What is the coincidence of that?


Which means that on the open air he was still operating from the lr of the month before, and then ust a few hours before, his new lunar return happened, and then I happened to be there. lol

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posted March 22, 2016 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
oh, this is so very very very strange.

I was just checking the lunar returns for the turning point I mentioned (with the open air concert when he was clearly recognizing my physical transformation on monday that week and then on his own concert on friday blurting out I was driving him crazy) and like with the first meeting chart, he was having a lunar Return just a few hours prior his solo concert!

What is the coincidence of that?


Which means that on the open air he was still operating from the lr of the month before, and then ust a few hours before, his new lunar return happened, and then I happened to be there. lol



Oh, really??? This is really nice!!!
I observed that, too in 2 or 3 LR's!!! Major events in the "relationship" happened the exact day of the LR!!! Some hours after the LR I mean, I've learned my lesson, lol
This is not a coincidence imo, although I try to be reasonable and non-delusional!

Sorry for the off-topic again, but maybe you saw my interpretation in electro dgx's thread (astrology 2.0)? I was just curious and anxious if I did it right, but if you are not interested, I totally understand, this is not so important! (I got a little angry there, though, but it seems I have a soft spot with this issue, lol)..So if you can't read it, it's totally fine! Thanks anyway


And...back to the topic..

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posted March 22, 2016 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I think it is important, event hapening ON the Lunar REturn, I just wonder why it is always HIS lunar return. lol


I think you are doing fine with your interpretations.

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posted March 22, 2016 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, I think it is important, event hapening ON the Lunar REturn, I just wonder why it is always HIS lunar return. lol


I think you are doing fine with your interpretations.



Yeah, why is that? Weird...
I haven't found myself any of my LR's that are on events, lol.


Thank you so much, it really means a lot from you! I still have a lot of work, though! hahaha

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posted March 22, 2016 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am still playing with LRs, lol, I find them very useful, maybe as much as event charts, although they describe the whole month, not the exact moment. But still it is a description of a very specific timeframe, so they seem valuable to me at least.
I just found, by the way, that the previous LR that I searched and posted in fact took place on a day, which another incident occurred and it is interesting that both events (20 days apart) during the same LR are perfectly described by the LR, from different angles and aspects, of course.
I have still one question, though..When we pull a composite for our LR with the partner's natal, what exactly are we looking at? How his behavior affected us during the month of the LR or the other way round? Or both maybe? lol.. So if we want to see how our behavior affected them, we pull a composite with his LR and our natal?
Anyway, we can pull a composite with our own LR and our natal, too. So this shows how this LR will affect us just personally. But with the other's person natal, I get confused some times for the meaning of it, lol

Lastly, I have found some resonance between important LRs and age harmonics for the whole year. I just remembered some aspects by heart and confirmed them. I didn't make a whole comparison. Age harmonics are the only ones that I have tried for quite a few times, compared to the whole range of harmonics I mean, lol. Is this resonance even possible or just a coincidence?

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posted March 22, 2016 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Composite between LR and natal of another person means how this person affects our experience of the month. it is only because of the other person that these things described in the lunar return are possible to experience for us.


So a Venus-Sun-conjunction in such acomposite with another person might indicate we fall in love with them or at least like them a lot. that month.


Age harmonics are awesome. I find them soo sooo telling. I have not compared them to lunar returns though

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posted March 22, 2016 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Composite between LR and natal of another person means how this person affects our experience of the month. it is only because of the other person that these things described in the lunar return are possible to experience for us.


So a Venus-Sun-conjunction in such acomposite with another person might indicate we fall in love with them or at least like them a lot. that month.


Age harmonics are awesome. I find them soo sooo telling. I have not compared them to lunar returns though



Ok, yes, I put it in order now
Thank you!

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posted March 22, 2016 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
speaking of age harmonics for this year (yes I am derailing the thread, but it is mine anyway, so you try and stop me! )

(only 1° to 1°30, maybe 2° with the angles orb with these)


my Age harmonic to his age harmonic (mine in the inner circle


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posted March 22, 2016 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my AH - his natal

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his AH - my natal

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posted March 24, 2016 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
speaking of age harmonics for this year (yes I am derailing the thread, but it is mine anyway, so you try and stop me! )

(only 1° to 1°30, maybe 2° with the angles orb with these)

my Age harmonic to his age harmonic (mine in the inner circle


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Hahahha, for what its worth, I am not gonna try to stop you lol, I mentioned the age harmonics in the first place Just joking of course! And yeah, more importantly, its your thread after all!
I am on a mobile, so I cant see your harmonics clearly right now!
But I have one general question about them, I mean we know the other harmonics represent an aspect in the natal chart, so thats why they work, as a magnifier I mean! But why do the age harmonics work although they dont represent any aspect?!
I am inclined to believe in their value, as I have checked them for several years of my life and they represent facts that took place that year good enough! Plus they are connected to the natals of the people that were important during that same year. But why and how do they work? Whats their hidden baseline?

P.s. If you are interested, I ll post my own age harmonics later!

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posted March 24, 2016 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
speaking of age harmonics for this year (yes I am derailing the thread, but it is mine anyway, so you try and stop me! )

(only 1° to 1°30, maybe 2° with the angles orb with these)

my Age harmonic to his age harmonic (mine in the inner circle


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Hahahha, for what its worth, I am not gonna try to stop you lol, I mentioned the age harmonics in the first place Just joking of course! And yeah, more importantly, its your thread after all!
I am on a mobile, so I cant see your harmonics clearly right now!
But I have one general question about them, I mean we know the other harmonics represent an aspect in the natal chart, so thats why they work, as a magnifier I mean! But why do the age harmonics work although they dont represent any aspect?!
I am inclined to believe in their value, as I have checked them for several years of my life and they represent facts that took place that year good enough! Plus they are connected to the natals of the people that were important during that same year. But why and how do they work? Whats their hidden baseline?

P.s. If you are interested, I ll post my own age harmonics later!

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posted March 24, 2016 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 24, 2016 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
speaking of age harmonics for this year (yes I am derailing the thread, but it is mine anyway, so you try and stop me! )

(only 1° to 1°30, maybe 2° with the angles orb with these)


my Age harmonic to his age harmonic (mine in the inner circle


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Hahahha, for what its worth, I am not gonna try to stop you lol, I mentioned the age harmonics in the first place Just joking of course! And yeah, more importantly, its your thread after all!
I am on a mobile, so I cant see your harmonics clearly right now!
But I have one general question about them, I mean we know the other harmonics represent an aspect in the natal chart, so thats why they work, as a magnifier I mean! But why do the age harmonics work although they dont represent any aspect?!
I am inclined to believe in their value, as I have checked them for several years of my life and they represent facts that took place that year good enough! Plus they are connected to the natals of the people that were important during that same year. But why and how do they work? Whats their hidden baseline?

P.s. If you are interested, I ll post my own age harmonics later!

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posted March 24, 2016 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted March 26, 2016 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure, why Age harmonics work, but they do, acutally especially the daily harmonics work just like such specific pinpointers, maybe we resonate with our age and that is why?

I actually have some daily age harmonics lying around here for important evens with mr Sag, if I find the time I will check if there is a pattern.

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posted March 27, 2016 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What information the synastry between someones natal and another person LR provide? How one person (the owner of the Natal chart) affects the other LR month?

Does the composite LR + someone else natal also provide how that person affects us that month?

Thank you.

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posted March 27, 2016 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone?

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posted March 28, 2016 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Sunnya, I made the same question the other day and this is what Ceri answered

quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Composite between LR and natal of another person means how this person affects our experience of the month. it is only because of the other person that these things described in the lunar return are possible to experience for us.


So a Venus-Sun-conjunction in such acomposite with another person might indicate we fall in love with them or at least like them a lot. that month.




@Ceri
Thank you for your answer here and many many thanks for your detailed answer in the other thread with the 11th harmonic, I had no time these last days to provide you with feedback, as my brother has come from abroad for a family gathering! I ll answer to the other thread thoroughly as soon as I return home!

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posted March 28, 2016 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you mar.

What about the synastry between the LR and the other person natal?

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posted March 28, 2016 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thank you mar.

What about the synastry between the LR and the other person natal?



I guess the same logic applies there, too.
Synastry between one person's natal and another person's LR ----> how the person with the natal affects the LR person during that month.

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posted March 28, 2016 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cheers mar!

I wasn't sure if we could actually count with the synastry with LRs/Natals. But then I saw interesting houses overlays and the angles involved in one synastry and I wondered if this could actually be relevant.

It's so interesting!

Following the same logic, we can compare Solar Returns with another person Natal (including creating a composite) and see how this person will affect our year.

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posted May 10, 2016 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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