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cchampliss2
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posted April 01, 2016 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn conjunct venus in synastry is hard on the Saturn person. It's tiring and it gets old "teaching" venus how to mature in venus type ways. I am currently in a venus conjunct Saturn relationship at the moment and I'm Saturn. And I'm tired and I want to know when to let go. All those who have experienced this, when did you say enough was enough?

One piece of tidbit: personally I'm going through a Saturn conjunct venus transit at the moment. Coincidence? Nah. Annoying in that Saturn kind of way? Yah.

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posted April 01, 2016 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What bothers you about the Venus person?

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posted April 01, 2016 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What bothers you about the Venus person?

I am the Venus in a Saturn-Venus conjunction, and I am tired of the never satisfied Saturn. Demands keep pouring. Enough already. Just love me the way I am, as I love them the way they are. I have virtually no demands towards the Saturn person.


OK, if that's how you wanna do it.

Enough of the underhanded stuff. If you're feeling unloved, under appreciated, under-cuddled, say something. Tell me. I'm doing my best here. I take time off work to spend time with you, but that's not enough.

If you want to go out with your girlfriends, fine, but tell me ahead of time so I can cancel the plans we made a week earlier. Be considerate of my time and life too. You say you love me and respect our relationship, then match your actions with your words. What's so hard about that?
Edit: if you didn't want to spend the day out on the boat, then say something and give me some suggestions here! For the love of Joseph!

Edit #2! And I'll huff and I'll puff and I'll blow this freakin' house down! sorry I got heated for a moment there.

Orange, is that enough? I hope you got the jist.

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posted April 01, 2016 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 02, 2016 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me: oh enough about the other girls already. It's just you. Only YOU.

Venus: Well, how am I supposed to know, you haven't told me in 24 hours.

Me: OK...

The struggle is real. I can't believe how accurate the descriptions are for this aspect in synastry.

I do feel a heck of a lot better though, thanks Orange!

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posted April 02, 2016 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ahahhh ...

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posted April 02, 2016 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whoa now Orange Venus, it's not Saturn's fault. You want love, you've gotta be responsible about it. Love isn't going to last on hidden kisses, poems, or cd's of your favorite love songs. That's not all love at all. You want longevity? Shape up. Work for it.

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posted April 02, 2016 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it's a huge part of it!!

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posted April 02, 2016 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh, and champ.....he doesnt know anything about astrology but I told him that he is way too downing on me with all these restrictions because his Saturn conjuncts my Venus. And that saturn is the joy kill

he said - I dont believe Saturn is all that bad. You probably are playing the victim now Let me go to read it myself online

so he goes and googles it and comes back to me with a quote about how great Saturn is and how he is the glue in the relationship and how Saturn sticks to the end and makes it work while venus is the fickle one.
he concludes with a big sigh - " It's so difficult to be Saturn. It's tiresome to be the parent here. Venus is just such a flake. You, guys, only want to have fun."

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posted April 02, 2016 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's really hard work. Btw, do you mind if I ask you about the transit? Is that common that I'm also going through this transit along with this relationship at the same time? Do you think it'll get easier once it has passed or maybe the relationship will end because I'll be done with the "duty"?

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posted April 02, 2016 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't believe I forgot to mention that her Saturn squares my venus. So we've got a double whammy.

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posted April 02, 2016 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 02, 2016 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yikes! That's way too many hits from Saturn. This one is hard and now with Saturn retrograde back over my venus, it's killing me.

Did your guy ever mention what he's learned from that time apart or anything of that nature? And what about you being on the other side of it?

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posted April 02, 2016 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Loved reading this thread 🤓👍

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posted April 02, 2016 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Loved reading this thread 🤓👍

Thank you, it was definitely helpful to get it out.

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posted April 03, 2016 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LuckyStar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know how a venus-saturn-venus T square play out in synastry?

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posted April 03, 2016 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LuckyStar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 09, 2016 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this aspect with someone in DW. Its a very frustrating aspect. Everything is going nowhere. I suggest you to give up and find someone else.

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posted April 09, 2016 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus-Mars conjunct Saturn-ASC (plus Saturn conjunct Mars).

They are nothing like that.
Interestingly if someone`s a bit critical at times it is the Venus-person.

But all in all they are just very devoted to each other, cooperative, constructively, plus very affectionate and caring.


And Orange? I can only imagine the storm that would follow, if my Dad dared to address my Mom in that way, asking her if she was wearing underwear.
Though he seriously couldnīt care less if she did or did not. It would ust never occur to him to be a subject of talk!

And well I do have to say though that my Mom sometimes criticizes his "sloppy" way of dressing (he is Saturn conjunct ASC in Virgo - you can imagine HOW sloppy he really dresses! ), but it usually just leads to a bit of verbal banter and joking (and him getting changed, because it just doesn`t really matter to him that much, but if it does to her, he seems to be okay with it).

How I see it also play out in their case is the grace and elegance they radiate when they dance. They usually attract a lot of attention when they do, because there`s just something quite classically elegant about them dancing. Which they still love to do btw.


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posted April 09, 2016 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Update: we broke up over this incident. That added on to everything going on did it for us and it was a long time coming. Saturn Venus relationships, works for some. Not for others.

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posted April 09, 2016 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry cchampliss here's to healing for your heart. Hope you can find somebody who takes your time and energy seriously and is respectful.

It seems a similar dynamic is developing between my partner and his most recent crush/beloved person... his Saturn, her Venus... and very little activation of her Saturn (her descendant ruler), save a trine to his Mercury (Asc ruler). I think an imbalance in Saturn aspects can bring on these kinds of issues, a sense that we are giving unequal levels of respect and consideration. We are looking for Saturn balance in general, whether they come through midpoints (Saturn/Juno, Saturn/Jupiter...), or ptolemaic aspects or whatever.

Anyway she just left for a 3 week trip to south America with her boyfriend and he was pretty hurt that she didn't call to say goodbye or anything so he texted her a goodbye. He's saying they had agreed to stay in touch regularly and he feels she isn't holding up her end. This is painful for him because he wants to maintain the connection and he notes that they do dissolve if not upkept. It seems to me like he's almost demanding a lot of her which she isn't prepared to do... after all she's decided she would rather remain committed to this other guy and there's a reason for that. A person can only do so much.

Anyway a rift is developing between them because of this difference in expectations.

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posted April 09, 2016 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to hear that champ

You are going thru a Transit of Saturn in square to your Venus and relationship do break up under this difficult transit. It is a saturn test for your love. If it is a strong one, it will keep on living. Break up, make up.
If it doesn't serve you any more purpose, Saturn will wipe it out without your consent. Whatever happens, its for the best.

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posted April 09, 2016 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Sorry to hear that champ

You are going thru a Transit of Saturn in square to your Venus and relationship do break up under this difficult transit. It is a saturn test for your love. If it is a strong one, it will keep on living. Break up, make up.
If it doesn't serve you any more purpose, Saturn will wipe it out without your consent. Whatever happens, its for the best.


Thanks Orange. I can say this time that I'm more at peace with it. Whereas before it felt unfinished. And now I feel like it really is for the best and I'm OK with it. Bummed but I'm looking forward to something or someone new and I have a better sense of myself in relationships and what I have to offer. I appreciate all the feedback. Always insightful and comforting.

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posted April 09, 2016 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How many times has transiting Saturn squared your Venus so far? Things completely resolve/dissolve after the final third hit ( provided it hits back and forth instead of just once).

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posted April 09, 2016 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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How many times has transiting Saturn squared your Venus so far? Things completely resolve/dissolve after the final third hit ( provided it hits back and forth instead of just once).

I don't quite know Orange. Saturn is conjunct my Venus at the moment and my Venus is in Sag 14. I have been feeling the effects since early September.

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