posted April 03, 2016 12:33 PM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:
Look into his synastry with the meeting!!! There are so many lines in the chart AND activation of his natal yod, that I thought you'd find it interesting, too!

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I only use about 1 degree orb with transits, that should reduce the lines.
If a relationship-relevant chart like first meeting chart, I would use 3 degree orb.

posted April 03, 2016 12:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I only use about 1 degree orb with transits, that should reduce the lines.
If a relationship-relevant chart like first meeting chart, I would use 3 degree orb.

However this Moon-Eros on Sun. Wow!

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Oh, I see, good to know! Thank you!!
What % of orb do you put in astro com in the first case? I know it's mathematical, but I can't figure it out so quickly lol

I editted my previous post btw. before seeing your last post.
I ll go back and see if I forgot something from your posts lol

ETA : "But THIS fascinates me more to be honest

his Dr East Point 26 Libra
his Dr POF 25 Libra
his Dr ASC 24 Libra
his Dr Avx 27 Libra
his Dr Saturn 25 Aries
his Dr Vertex 27 Aries

posted April 03, 2016 01:55 PM            

"in fact yesterday after talking with you for the event-compo, I saw so many connections too and I wanted to tell you about them, but there are so overwhelming I don't know where to start!!!"
I know what you mean!

" How do you keep them in order in your mind and then in writing? It's like a flood to me sometimes "

Hmm, I think I donīt worry anymore about missing something, cause it seems the important things will stand out.

Also what I always check first are conjunctions and oppositions, and the luminaries, angles, Vertex and nodal axis. Because nothing, really NOTHING outstanding happens without those connections.

If there is just nothing going on in that regard, it`s not that impactful. It`s easy as that (even though some would not want to believe it), everything else is just icing on the cake, or actually fleshing out the big picture.

In his EVC with the moment yesterday, it was just too easy, A Leo ASC with chartruler in 7th house (angular placements are ALWAYS paramount) conjunct Mercury, the nodal axis involved, too. No way to miss that one, and from there you let the chart guide you.

You see this chartruler, which is the SUN !!!, angular in conjunction to the planet of communication - and then I instantly keep wondering what does this Mercury rule or disposit? and it brings me to the North Node (Virgo) a second BINGO, more so a Bingo that is interconnected with the first one, and so on.

And if you have planets on the angles, they are parmount they want to tell you something. A conjunction to Sun or Moon of course also wants to tell you something though it might not be as externally visible. Something on ASC or MC? It WILL manifest clearly (though there is of course a range of interpretation). IC - it will manifest clearly too, but not visibly so, more going on internally. And something on the DESC will bring the outer world into play, in direct interaction with you or you with others.

posted April 03, 2016 02:15 PM            

Maybe you`re right.
It just came so out of left field and blindsided me. Though maybe he did`t even mean me. See? I ALWAYS Try to deflect the possibility he might actually have meant me.

And seriously he WAS acting a wee bit odd last february (which was the first time we crossed paths after that) with the observing us through that glasswindow and apparently waving at us, and then just having to hang with us while we were standing in line. lol

"lol, it is because back then when you posted it I sort of tried to interpret it and told you about the significance of the triangle with the apex placed in the 2nd house, hahaha "
Yes and it made sense, too, cause I had been changing my look quite a bit the days before, with the new haircut, dying of my hair, the grooming of my eyebrows and I think it might even have been the first time he ever saw me wearing make up. I very rarely do, and if very very natural one, This time I did not wear much, actually only lipstick I think but it was quite a bold colour for me (as I usually go without make up).

Actually he had seen me last before like this
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(though actually this pic is even flattering me, as there was more grey in my hair. lol)

And last concert I had changed my style a bit - hey he put out a challenge, by writing on his band`s homepage as a motto or something like this for fun I guess: "Donīt be a groupie, be the rockstar!"
So I was thinking to myself: "So if he wants a star, I can show him real starquality!"
(I am not even that sure of myself usually. lol)

Just kidding. Of course I was not looking like a star, but I think quite changed from before.
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(LOL I think I have never ever had that smooth hair before, though I do like them more curly to be honest, but it was different, that`s for sure.)

"Its the event that it was almost delayed by some kind of transportation problems, isn't that it?"
Yes, that is the one.

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I am glad though my hair is looking a bit more like "me-hair" again. Windswept just feels more natural to me.

posted April 03, 2016 02:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"Awwww, June 2014, hahahahaha, the month when I met him for the first time in person!
lol
Such an amazing month, so many things going on!"
Yes, interestingly when we first fleetingly glimpsed each other, it was 3rd june, and our first meeting took place on 22nd may. and somehow the summer months are always most interesting. lol

"in fact yesterday after talking with you for the event-compo, I saw so many connections too and I wanted to tell you about them, but there are so overwhelming I don't know where to start!!!"
I know what you mean!

" How do you keep them in order in your mind and then in writing? It's like a flood to me sometimes "

Hmm, I think I donīt worry anymore about missing something, cause it seems the important things will stand out.

Also what I always check first are conjunctions and oppositions, and the luminaries, angles, Vertex and nodal axis. Because nothing, really NOTHING outstanding happens without those connections.

If there is just nothing going on in that regard, it`s not that impactful. It`s easy as that (even though some would not want to believe it), everything else is just icing on the cake, or actually fleshing out the big picture.

In his EVC with the moment yesterday, it was just too easy, A Leo ASC with chartruler in 7th house (angular placements are ALWAYS paramount) conjunct Mercury, the nodal axis involved, too. No way to miss that one, and from there you let the chart guide you.

You see this chartruler, which is the SUN !!!, angular in conjunction to the planet of communication - and then I instantly keep wondering what does this Mercury rule or disposit? and it brings me to the North Node (Virgo) a second BINGO, more so a Bingo that is interconnected with the first one, and so on.

And if you have planets on the angles, they are parmount they want to tell you something. A conjunction to Sun or Moon of course also wants to tell you something though it might not be as externally visible. Something on ASC or MC? It WILL manifest clearly (though there is of course a range of interpretation). IC - it will manifest clearly too, but not visibly so, more going on internally. And something on the DESC will bring the outer world into play, in direct interaction with you or you with others.

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You cant even imagine how you helped me with this one "Hmm, I think I donīt worry anymore about missing something, cause it seems the important things will stand out.

Also what I always check first are conjunctions and oppositions, and the luminaries, angles, Vertex and nodal axis. Because nothing, really NOTHING outstanding happens without those connections.

If there is just nothing going on in that regard, it`s not that impactful. It`s easy as that (even though some would not want to believe it), everything else is just icing on the cake, or actually fleshing out the big picture.

In his EVC with the moment yesterday, it was just too easy, A Leo ASC with chartruler in 7th house (angular placements are ALWAYS paramount) conjunct Mercury, the nodal axis involved, too. No way to miss that one, and from there you let the chart guide you.

You see this chartruler, which is the SUN !!!, angular in conjunction to the planet of communication - and then I instantly keep wondering what does this Mercury rule or disposit? and it brings me to the North Node (Virgo) a second BINGO, more so a Bingo that is interconnected with the first one, and so on.

posted April 03, 2016 02:25 PM            

Hug from fellow lioness and astrology nerd lol

posted April 03, 2016 02:26 PM            

NOOOO, you are doing it again! Yes, I have noticed that you do that and I understand it and don;t understand it at the same time. I thought of telling you another time that I noticed, but these things are delicate and in fact only you have the solution for that. But please really try to get it out of your mind, these kisses were for you, the response was to you, noone else!!! You have to really and completely believe it!!!

posted April 03, 2016 02:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Sunnya:
Mar, I don't have anything to add astrologically, but I just want to send you a hug and positive vibes. Everything will be alright, "don't worry, be happy" song comes to mind.

Hug from fellow lioness and astrology nerd lol

@Ceridwen you are beautiful!

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Hahaha, thank you very much Sunnya!!! Really appreciate it!
I loved the fellow lioness and astro nerd part, lol

posted April 03, 2016 02:31 PM            

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posted April 03, 2016 02:40 PM            

Do you have anything between 10-17 or 27-28 Cancer natally btw?

posted April 03, 2016 02:45 PM            

I couldn`t see myself like this, well it took me years to get to the point I find myself acceptable, and he has more than a bit to do with it. Because if I am honest (and not deflecting it ), I could sense that he found me appealing from the first time we met (which was probably the reason I reacted so shellshocked, cause NOONE saw me like that, or so I thought).
And I know that he is pretty impressed with the transformation Iīve undergone (just as I am impressed by the transformation he has undergone, as we coincidentally started losing weight about the same month, and it suits both of us much better than before), but it just seemed like he appreciated me even before, which I could neither understand nor even accept to believe.

But I suppose that is what his Venus in my 2nd house can do.

Somehow, however, it feels like the mutual apprecation has become something more personal, and it`s not easy dealing with THAT, weighing it up, balancing it.

posted April 03, 2016 02:51 PM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:
LOL, I confess I am a little blind with this type of charts from solar fire, my eyes aren't used to them at all, so I am struggling there! Lines help me focus, so I certainly took a better look in the event composite, and ........
open sesame!!!!
Mercury-EP-Vertex all in one????????????
That is simply amazing! Awww, astrology is such a beautiful form of divine wisdom to me!!!!!!!!

Do you have anything between 10-17 or 27-28 Cancer natally btw?

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Yes, the 27 Sag rigsing with Mercury are awesome I think, it losely conjuncts my Sun-Mercury on 25°56 Sag and 25°03 Sag, but maybe more importantly HIS Sun is at 26°57 Sag with his MOon-MC at 28 Sag which brings his Sun/Moon-mp to 27 Sag exactly. Oh and our composite Sun is at 26°26 Sag.

I donīt have anything between 27-28 Cancer natally (except NIKE the goddess of victory. lol) but his Juno falls onto that exact degree. my Priapus is pretty close at 00 Leo.

Anyway but maybe more importantly I have Saturn at 16°57 Cancer, and Saturn rules my 2nd house of selfworth and (physical appearance, people always mistake the 1st house for that, but our physical substance really shows in the 2nd house, especially if we do something with it, like dressing, for example).

I found the transiting chart interesting as it had a Full Moon with Sun on 3 Aquarius and Moon on 1 Leo overlaying our composite ASC-DESC on 1 Aquarius-Leo.

posted April 03, 2016 02:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Thank you both. You`re sweet.

I couldn`t see myself like this, well it took me years to get to the point I find myself acceptable, and he has more than a bit to do with it. Because if I am honest (and not deflecting it ), I could sense that he found me appealing from the first time we met (which was probably the reason I reacted so shellshocked, cause NOONE saw me like that, or so I thought).
And I know that he is pretty impressed with the transformation Iīve undergone (just as I am impressed by the transformation he has undergone, as we coincidentally started losing weight about the same month, and it suits both of us much better than before), but it just seemed like he appreciated me even before, which I could neither understand nor even accept to believe.

But I suppose that is what his Venus in my 2nd house can do.

Somehow, however, it feels like the mutual apprecation has become something more personal, and it`s not easy dealing with THAT, weighing it up, balancing it.

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Hahaha, you are welcome, its true!!!
Another weird synchronicity this weight-thing, imo! Really odd and charming at the same time!
Venus in the 2nd, ha, yess, it fitsss!!! Where is your Venus in his chart btw? I don't remember his Asc to figure it out approximately lol

"has become something more personal, and it`s not easy dealing with THAT, weighing it up, balancing it."
Yes I think so, too and I understand. But you should go with the flow, too, remember? (that's if I understood well what you mean lol)

posted April 03, 2016 03:04 PM            

(She`s kinda a biggie in our comparision, though I hardly mention her

But seriously?

His Sappho widely conjunct my Moon and exactly parallel (0°03)

my Sappho exactly conjuncts his Pluto

- oh I just now realize, those are the rulers of our respective 8th houses, hmm interesting. -

in composite

Sappho conjunct Mercury and Neptune
and parallels pretty much everything (Sun, Mercury, Venus, Neptune and contraparallel Jupiter)

in Davison

Sappho conjunct DESC (and parallel Moon, Saturn, mean Lilith, Amor, Westpoint and IC).

posted April 03, 2016 03:13 PM            

"But you should go with the flow, too, remember? (that's if I understood well what you mean lol)"
Exactly.

" but it has to do with our direction in our current life. Have I understood it well? "
yes, that`s how I see it.

Also if we think about it it is really the calculation of when the Moon crosses the ecliptic (the Sun`s course) and if we project those two points onto earth then we get the nodal axis.

It might be that actually what this means is that it is a chart for manifestation for bringing something into a very clear physical expression, sort of bringing the Sun-Moon-duo, the Yin and Yan in our personality onto the earth.
Probably it is not half as spiritualized as we usually treat it. but pretty practical actually, as far as Sun and Moon are practical of course.

At least I feel the Draco aspects very much, it is not always the placements really (though I do resonate with mine as well), but really it is about the aspects and the overlays with our tropical chart, and I believe it probably is a work in progress and might become even more important and clearer the more time passes.

posted April 03, 2016 03:22 PM            

ETA : "At least I feel the Draco aspects very much, it is not always the placements really (though I do resonate with mine as well), but really it is about the aspects and the overlays with our tropical chart, and I believe it probably is a work in progress and might become even more important and clearer the more time passes."

I am far behind you at realizing my own draco aspects and overlays, but I understand what you mean mentally. From what I have read at least! I must have read by now almost all of your old posts in draco lol I am really interested in knowing even more about dracos, too! They are in my top 5 of personal biases lol (apart from Vx, EP and Nodes and I probably forget some more)! I love them, but I really don't understand them quite well yet.

"" but it has to do with our direction in our current life. Have I understood it well? "
yes, that`s how I see it.

Also if we think about it it is really the calculation of when the Moon crosses the ecliptic (the Sun`s course) and if we project those two points onto earth then we get the nodal axis.

It might be that actually what this means is that it is a chart for manifestation for bringing something into a very clear physical expression, sort of bringing the Sun-Moon-duo, the Yin and Yan in our personality onto the earth.
Probably it is not half as spiritualized as we usually treat it. but pretty practical actually, as far as Sun and Moon are practical of course."

posted April 03, 2016 03:39 PM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:
[B] I mean if both people evolve towards their own path BUT together, will they be -despite each of them evolving in their own path- well together? Is that what a good draco synastry might mean for the couple?
Please tell me if I dont explain it well lol

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I havenīt answered that part of your question because I donīt think it CAN be answered.

No astrological technique will tell you that you WILL be together (no matter what). There is always free will, free choice.

Maybe a strong Draco synastry increases the probability of people having quite a way to go together.
Especially Draco to Draco might mean that.

On the other hand does the fact of having many conjunctions in the tropical chart that you will in fact always be together?
No I don`t think so.

So I guess the answer is No, not even Draco can tell us that.

posted April 03, 2016 03:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I havenīt answered that part of your question because I donīt think it CAN be answered.

No astrological technique will tell you that you WILL be together (no matter what). There is always free will, free choice.

Maybe a strong Draco synastry increases the probability of people having quite a way to go together.
Especially Draco to Draco might mean that.

On the other hand does the fact of having many conjunctions in the tropical chart that you will in fact always be together?
No I don`t think so.

So I guess the answer is No, not even Draco can tell us that.

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No, no, I mean IF they are, will they be good together? Deep-down, meaning, by staying on course of their own path at the same time? Hmmm, it's my bad english, I can't explain it very well
Sorry

posted April 03, 2016 04:23 PM            

I also, I think it makes you feel understood on a very deep level, maybe even deeper than you are aware of yourself.

I like to name my friend as example her tropical Moon is exactly conjunct my Draco Sun (as is my tropical Moon conjunct her Draco Sun); we do not have the same path in life, but for some reason we always got what the other needed to evolve to.

But more so, she`s always seen a lot of "courage, independence, energy, confidence" in me, even some "daringness" that I never associated with myself (my Draco Sun is in Aries).

In fact I remember that I called her and told her about first meeting Mr Sag and how I asked him for his birthtime, because I was intersted in figuring out his ASC. I TOLD him that! Just after we met (well just a bit after he was sniffing my hair. lol)

But the thing is I was acting on "impulse", and afterwards I was shocked and startled and crept out by my own actions and I told her that and said something like: "I donīt understand what`s gotten into me. You know me, that is not how I am."
I heard her stifle a laugh at the end of the line and then she said: "Yes I know you. And that is EXACTLY how you are. If someone could do that, then it is you."

Over the years I`ve come to experience that she is indeed right, that IS how I am, I just have to dig it out sometimes. It`s not something I have to really grow into because it is familiar. But it is so deeply familiar that I forget this is a part of me.

So unlike most people who interprete DRacos for me it really is more like REMEMBERING a deep part of myself, instead of adding just something new. Of course it feels new, because for some reason that stuff got buried, but at the end of the day it is a very pure essential part of me, uninfluenced by other people or moral codes or reasoning or whatever. Just ME.

so someone triggers that in me? I might feel a little uncomfortable because it feels like they know me SO WELL, sometimes even better than I know myself (well my everyday-self knows myself, my deeper Self very clearly already knows that is why it resonates with this and feels "seen/ recognized")

The time I saw Mr Sag on a concert, 3 months before first meeting him, I remember I was amazed at how it felt like the darkness was suddenly set ablaze, like his energy was sort of being like a Sun in the dark audience, but more so I watched him radiating fun and playfulness and optimism and I was reminded of the song lines:

"You remind me of who I really am."
(or as I remember thinking a little melancholically: how I could have been, if things had been a little different - not even realizing that the "things" really were my own choices, but that is beside the point).

He just gave me a feeling as if his presence alone made me feel more "Myself" than when he was not around.

I suspect that must be something in the Dracos, though weirdly it is our Draco-DRaco-synastry that is really strong.

However in this instance maybe it is his ASC being conjunct my Draco ASC-Mars-Neptune?
Though that "SElf" did not feel so much Piscean but more fiery to be honest. So I guess something to do with my Aries-DRaco planets (I have a few, Sun, Mercury, Venus), curiously however he doesn`t have planets in Aries in his tropical.

But as I said we have quite a bit Draco-Draco-action. And I just adore his Draco Mars-Jupiter-Amor in Aries, though it is not conjunct my Draco Sun-Mercury, but I think it is close enough to my tropical IC to matter. In fact my Draco Jupiter is conjunct his trpical IC as well, so there is some kind of Double Whammy and I think if I remember it right Alma and Juno were involved one way, too. but not sure how.

my ASC-Mars-Neptune-NN-Wisdom-Angel-Lust is conjunct his Draco Chiron on my Draco Cupido and his tropical Mercury, ruler of his IC and DESC. I sometimes wonder about that.

posted April 03, 2016 04:38 PM            

"You remind me of who I really am.""
Really really loved it!
And it actually creeps the hell out of me, because I sort of feel the same way for him, too. Today a song has been stuck in my mind, that it goes like this
title "Like you"
I would love to be like you the keyword lyric
but the whole song is like a poem with very nice pictures and metaphors.
What I am trying to say is -and the song title may misguide you in this- is that I feel like I would love to be like him, because he is an alternative evolution of myself.
I realised that we are partly the same, which is why I feel the profound soul connection, but he partly is totally different, almost opposite. And he sort of remembers me of myself at some things, at some others he reminds me of who I could be, a different way that I admire at the same time, do you know what I mean?

After I read your words, yes, it makes sense its something in the draco!
Btw, I am a draco sun/merc/Dsc in Aries, too, lol!
And I just realized (I had forgotten about it, because I cant seem to find more conversations on dracos recently) that his tropical sun conjunct my draco IC by minutes!!! 8 42 aqua sun, my draco IC 8 13 aqua...
The minute I saw it, I just wanted to share it with you, lol!

"In fact I remember that I called her and told her about first meeting Mr Sag and how I asked him for his birthtime, because I was intersted in figuring out his ASC. I TOLD him that! Just after we met (well just a bit after he was sniffing my hair. lol)"
Hahahahah, this is incredible! Love it! I dont even begin to mention other weird coincidences to that, I must be boring by now lol

posted April 09, 2016 04:37 PM            

@Mar
I'm wondering about transits to the progressed composite? Any hits?

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He is very tuned in, I have checked it through time, he listens to me even when you are ABSOLUTELY sure that he doesn't, he seems so aloof and detached and yet he listens to EVERYTHING! I just don't know if he does it in general or with me. I cannot verify that, it would be really good I think if he does it more with me! but I don;t know

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Probably a mix of both? I feel that Aquas can be supremely attentive...ASCs, suns, and moons...and with his Cancer moon he's also picking up feelings.

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This is what he believes for himself after his experience he says. Hmmm, I don't quite fall for that, although it's highly possible that there is some validity here (emotional blockages in his chart after all, plus clues from my interaction with him), but I imagine that is another way of telling someone "I don't love you back, girl"..

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Not necessarily.

A lot of men are determined to stay single. They only want "booty calls." I just heard a song in the store about that...I don't know the name of it but it was like, "If you're looking for someone to have sex with, I'm your man, but if you need anything at all beyond that, keep walking."

I plugged my ears because it annoyed me.

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I told him really important things today in such a little time, without analyzing very much, but every word was really meaningful..

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EVC grand trine of Gemini sun-Mercury, Aqua Uranus-POF, Libra Jupiter. Lovely timing.

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It`s a journey, and like someone said to me a long ago - granted it was in a meditation/ dream. lol - "Your journey consists of several steps. Don`t jump any of the steps, donīt try to see where it ends. Sometimes you`re just supposed to take one step after the other, without seeing the future. I mean, waht would be the fun in knowing the outcome all along?" (I would have liked to see the outcome, but he was right, had I even just sensed all the complications that were awaiting me, I would have bailed, and probably missed my own life.

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I love this.

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My NN 17 27 Leo, his IC 17 56 Leo, conjunct by minutes!!! this last period, plus here Leo intercepted in the 8th house in my compo, that should mean something. I feel it like this meeting is some sort of turning point, transformation of some kind, but I am struggling to get the meaning of it.

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Your EVC NN conjunct his natal IC, right?

posted April 09, 2016 04:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No astrological technique will tell you that you WILL be together (no matter what). There is always free will, free choice.

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This should be the banner for this subforum.

posted April 09, 2016 04:52 PM            

Perhaps he has decided to close himself off from that whole possibility, so even if he loves you, he doesn't want a relationship.

And maybe he wouldn't tell you the truth about his feelings because he doesn't want to get your hopes up, even if his feelings for you are strong.