posted April 09, 2016 04:54 PM            

Well did anything happen that makes you think you two aren't finished yet?"

posted April 09, 2016 04:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I meant that it's not necessarily that he doesn't love you.

Perhaps he has decided to close himself off from that whole possibility, so even if he loves you, he doesn't want a relationship.

And maybe he wouldn't tell you the truth about his feelings because he doesn't want to get your hopes up, even if his feelings for you are strong.

Does that make sense or seem to apply, with him?

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posted April 09, 2016 05:14 PM            

what you wrote there about men and love, I can relate to it a lot.

posted April 10, 2016 10:40 AM            

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But now, after Ceri's help and after sort of meditating with all these draco stuff that came up (right afterwards, weird timing, isn't that it?), I think I really should go with the flow. My feelings aren't finished, I can't move on, so why pressure myself so much to move on, when it it obvious since November that I really can't? So, lets see what comes afterwards!

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I love this. He doesn't seem to know what he wants, either. It seems like more time is needed here.

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Do you think that he really wants a booty-call with me? Please be honest, I really need some guidance with this man, nothing seems to work out.

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I think he have emotional reasons for wanting "casual" sex with you, but he doesn't want to invest in his emotions. Astrologically his 9H sun is the apex of a yod with the moon and Jupiter...I feel like his sun overpowers his moon.

All that Jupiter/Sag energy cries out for independence. Then, his Venus is in a t-square with Mars and Neptune so of course, he is going to have love issues. I do think, to get to his Venus, you have to swim these murky Neptunian waters....where even he doesn't quite know what he wants. Since Mars is part of that t-square, I think perhaps sex is an intrinsic part of his whole love mechanism. I think for many men, they consider it true love when the sex life is good.

Of course that is too simplistic and probably a joke. Men want more than that....but I think that is at the top of their list, of what they actually want.

I need to talk about that yod.

Apex:
His tr Mercury
His dr moon
Your dr Chiron

Leg 1:
Your tr NN
His tr moon
Your dr Mars-Pluto
His dr DSC

Leg 2:
Your tr moon
His tr Jupiter/Mars
Your dr Neptune
His dr sun

I think some of these orbs may be too wide to count as part of the yod. But what stands out to me is the triumph of his rational Aquarius Mercury, anchoring everything, at the apex. It almost seems like everything is at the mercy of his detached, methodical mind, because even his draconic moon is hooked into that and feels through that. And your dr Chiron is feeling this and pained by it....but also healing through it. Think of how this brought you to astrology (a rational science, in tune with his rational mind actually.) From what I gather, this was a life-changing discovery for you.

The fact that the apex taps into both moons and is conjunct his draconic moon, AND his tropical moon is in Cancer, tells me that perhaps over time all of the emotional strength of this connection will naturally build up with him, and he will get it. He'll trust it. It is geometrically stable and sound.

Did he say he doesn't like conversations? Maybe because his draconic moon is conjunct his tropical Mercury and triggers a lot of underlying sensitivity. Because this is happening in Aquarius I'm suspecting it could literally "get on his nerves" when things are out of place, like he feels an electrical discomfort. Just a guess.

Your sun-Mercury-DSC in Cancer must resonate with, and love, his tropical Mercury conjunct his draconic moon. I mean, it's just so perfect.

Your dr Mars-Pluto on his moon could be felt by him, introducing tremendous sexual interest, to the point that it is distracting and has to be "negotiated"...I think it is really a challenge for him to be around you and not get physical. This is the physical leg.

The other leg is the "romantic" leg, where you romanticize him because your dr Neptune is conjunct your tr moon, on his dr sun/tropical Jupiter-Mars.

Both legs have to be functioning to make that apex, driven by his Mercury, which decides everything, feel that things are going right....both legs have to be working. If you say it has to be all love before sex, and he says all sex before love, that keeps his Mercury jammed. To feel "exalted" (which is Aqua Mercury's essential nature...it is exalted...and as the apex of a yod, even moreso) both those legs have to work, equally, propping the Mercury up. If either leg collapses, Mercury's power goes out. Does that make any sense?

I realize that I've said a lot about him and it may not all fit together well, so please just scan this and talk about whatever seems accurate (if anything).

posted April 10, 2016 11:15 AM            

And I am in awe of your interpretation.

posted April 10, 2016 12:56 PM            

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Mir, I owe you an answer and an entire thread lol! I havent forgotten that, I'll get back to you later, too! These days I have delved so much into draconics, that my ongoing research is a bit stand-by!

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O nononono.. take your time, and I totally get that~! It comes when it comes... hehe

posted April 10, 2016 03:25 PM            

Ceri, bring it on!

posted April 10, 2016 03:27 PM            

how about you pick the aspectfigure that jumps out at you?

posted April 10, 2016 05:24 PM            

Could you post a chart from astro.com though? Is that too much to ask?

posted April 10, 2016 05:46 PM            

"Think of how this brought you to astrology (a rational science, in tune with his rational mind actually.) From what I gather, this was a life-changing discovery for you."

Yessss!!!! In fact just recently I had made another thread where I was wondering for the significance of the boomerang yod he creates with his Uranus, I mean Uranus is the release point of my own natal yod and the apex is my Chiron! And I thought that it must have to do with "him" bringing me to astrology! Uranus and Chiron are in fact sort of players in another point, too, as my Uranus and my Chiron square his Nodes. This was the connection I searched about just some days before the draconics!!!

"Did he say he doesn't like conversations? "
Yes, he said that, but I think he means emotional conversations, because he can do other conversations pretty well lol!

"Because this is happening in Aquarius I'm suspecting it could literally "get on his nerves" when things are out of place, like he feels an electrical discomfort. Just a guess."

It's so weird that you are saying this word, the word "electrical" came to my mind yesterday night, when I was thinking about him and I found that word very fitting for his "aura"(?)-when he is nervous especially, not all the time! Unbelievable amount of coincidences these last days!

"I would want to get further into it. As far into it as I could tolerate."
Totally the way I think, too..

Thanks so much for all your effort and time!

posted April 10, 2016 06:28 PM            

Here our Draco-Draco-synastry

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and additionally

my own tropicalDraco
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and his tropical - Draco

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posted April 10, 2016 06:34 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
O nononono.. take your time, and I totally get that~! It comes when it comes... hehe

Ow and your Sun is exactly conjunct my Venus, you can't do anything wrong with me u know

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So sweet of you to say that Mir!!!!
And how interesting that I like you, too! These things are always sensed somehow and the explanation is in astrology!
I really admire your mathematical mind, lol, that's totally irrelevant, but now that you told me that, I thought I had to say it, I ve thought it a lot of times when I read some of your posts! I loved math since I was a kid and numbers in general still fascinate me! In fact the "math" part is one of the numerous parts I love in astrology! Although I was not a natural talent or anything, I was just good, but I really wish I had THE mathematical mind lol, maybe in another lifetime(/universe?)!
Speaking of math and astrology, the latter has ALL the things that I always loved!
Numbers, calculations, "scientific" things (with or without the quotation marks lol), psychology, mythology, history (=people that dealt with astrology in ancient times etc.), research, experiments, original thinking, visualising (all the trines, yods etx. have really helped me with that!), mystery, spirituality, all the "hidden" things and meanings, numerology, patterns...I love patterns/themes, I love them all!!!! LOL! I really feel like a little kid with astrology, I can't limit my enthusiasm at all, as it is obvious , it's really too much, hahahaha!

After this rambling for astrology , now, for your original comment :
"'can you really be satisfied with having some casual sex once in a while and some shared feelings about relative issues?' "
No, I can't and I totally get what you mean. I know by now that it is still possible that it won't go anywhere, I mean sometimes I think, "what the h...? Love isn't supposed to be so difficult, maybe it is just not meant to be", but the thing is that I can't stop my feelings!!! That's the most difficult part and I really don't want to be a victim, believe me.

"there's nothing more behind their words than the truth."
yes, you are right on that. It's the women's fault most of the times, when they (and I) misinterpret the words and try to find hidden or other meanings..

"He doesn't want a relationship and he'll not change his mind. He's been cleared of any emotional wrongdoing now when having sex. "
I didn't get totally the "cleared of any emothional wrongdoing part", but...ok :/
Do you really believe he won't change his mind?

"he was clear and honest to you without giving any false hope and you can be assured this is engraved in the guy's mind."
Yes, he was clear, at least that. I don't accuse him of anything, I am just disappointed that probably it isn't mutual. In fact, I appreciate the fact that he was honest.

"Btw; was it a 1st confession last week that he didn't want to be in a relationship?"
1st?...hmmm...sort of, the first was about 1,5 month ago, but these 3 last meetings are all connected somehow, the same conversation reappears somehow, it's like all 3 are 1, do you know what I mean? They are part of the same process, which in my mind is before (I cut it off since November) and after..

posted April 11, 2016 05:39 PM            

Feeling less talkative than usual so I'm just going to thank you again for addressing my reading point for point.

Hi Ceri,

I'm working on it but it doesn't seem to be working.

posted April 11, 2016 05:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Hi Mar,

Feeling less talkative than usual so I'm just going to thank you again for addressing my reading point for point.

Hi Ceri,

I'm working on it but it doesn't seem to be working.

It's in progress, stay tuned.

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That's ok, Faith, I am sending you positive vibes! lol, I don;t know how else to say it in english Hope you are well in general

ETA :
"I realize that I've said a lot about him and it may not all fit together well, so please just scan this and talk about whatever seems accurate (if anything)."

posted April 11, 2016 07:25 PM            

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"He doesn't want a relationship and he'll not change his mind. He's been cleared of any emotional wrongdoing now when having sex. "
I didn't get totally the "cleared of any emothional wrongdoing part", but...ok :/
Do you really believe he won't change his mind?

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Yes I'm afraid I do. I've seen (and heard from guy-friends) it too many times them starting a journey a la 'friends only' as they didn't want to commit to the girl since they felt she wasn't simply the one. And this always went downhill as the girl started too expect things and blame him for not being emotionally involved enough. That's the part you often see, the girl thinking 'ow well he'll change his mind one day' but I've never seen it happen unfortunately. Hence my genuinely shared care here. But ofcourse, nothing is set in stone and there will always be exceptions to any rule.

posted April 11, 2016 07:35 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
[QUOTE]"He doesn't want a relationship and he'll not change his mind. He's been cleared of any emotional wrongdoing now when having sex. "
I didn't get totally the "cleared of any emothional wrongdoing part", but...ok :/
Do you really believe he won't change his mind?

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For the rest I love you(r Virgo Moon approx on my asc/merc) [/QUOTE]

Ohhhhh, Mirrrr, I love you, too! Both Sun to Venus and Moon to Asc-Mercury?? hahahaha, this is so sweet!!!
And I appreciate your honesty, no matter how inconvenient the truth is at this point lol! Thanks a lot!!!