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ChildofVenus
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posted May 09, 2016 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe I know someone who has this aspect and I have a question. His Moon is in Sagittarius and his Venus is in Virgo. So that means there would be a conflict. I have my moon in Aquarius and my Venus is in Virgo but my sun is in Taurus. Would he be attracted to me since our moon signs are compatible and my sun sign Taurus being compatible with his Virgo Venus.

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posted May 10, 2016 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i thinks that lotis white long long articles on all the dinamics of attraction are very telling. it is difficult to make a conclusion of attraction just by venus-moon aspects.. of course when you isolate the aspect it is always good to have moon venus, but is enough? you need more than that..

rather than repeating myself i invite you to go over all the extensive articles of Lotis white in the matter.. that would help more than getting responses under isolated aspects.. at the end, people would say.. yes in my experience it happened, but what they cannot tell if this is because all the other placements...

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posted May 10, 2016 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as for the specific question in your tittle the square moon-venus in a man of woman indicates conflict with the feminine

venus: the hetaira,
moon: the nurturers

these men or women tend to be split about what they like and what feels nurturing. men with this aspects can marry a woman whose placements resonate with his moon and then has a lover whose placement resonates with his venus. sometimes a person has both placement, but still identify only with one side (either moon or venus) and repress the other side.. then the rival express the other side

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posted May 10, 2016 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right but what if the person who identifies with the persons moon has sexual aspects with this person? Let's say if a man with moon square venus meets a woman and he feels she identifies mostly with his moon side? Yet he has sexual aspects with her in synastry then what would happen with that?

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as for the specific question in your tittle the square moon-venus in a man of woman indicates conflict with the feminine

venus: the hetaira,
moon: the nurturers

these men or women tend to be split about what they like and what feels nurturing. men with this aspects can marry a woman whose placements resonate with his moon and then has a lover whose placement resonates with his venus. sometimes a person has both placement, but still identify only with one side (either moon or venus) and repress the other side.. then the rival express the other side


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posted May 10, 2016 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Right but what if the person who identifies with the persons moon has sexual aspects with this person? Let's say if a man with moon square venus meets a woman and he feels she identifies mostly with his moon side? Yet he has sexual aspects with her in synastry then what would happen with that?


???

We project / meet on the outside the parts/aspects/planets we're least comfortable expressing. In a Moon/Venus square, among other things, if she's his moon then HE will play Venus.

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posted May 10, 2016 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure what you mean by he will play venus. I've read on this forum that people who have Moon square Venus have a hard time with relationships. Because they can't find just one person who satisfies both their moon and venus because of the square. So that's why I asked if a man with this aspect in his birth chart meets a woman. And he feels that she identifies with his moon. His emotional needs etc. Yet she wouldn't satisfy his Venus. But then what if he has sexual aspects with the same woman in synastry. Would she still not satisfy his Venus? This is what I mean.
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We project / meet on the outside the parts/aspects/planets we're least comfortable expressing. In a Moon/Venus square, among other things, if she's his moon then [b]HE will play Venus.

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posted May 10, 2016 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I believe I know someone who has this aspect and I have a question. His Moon is in Sagittarius and his Venus is in Virgo. So that means there would be a conflict. I have my moon in Aquarius and my Venus is in Virgo but my sun is in Taurus. Would he be attracted to me since our moon signs are compatible and my sun sign Taurus being compatible with his Virgo Venus.

Its not possible to be a Taurus sun with a Virgo venus

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posted May 10, 2016 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not possible? And why is that? I didn't say I had Virgo Venus. I'm a Taurus sun and he has Venus in Virgo. I was asking if my sun in Taurus would be compatible with his Venus in Virgo.
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Its not possible to be a Taurus sun with a Virgo venus

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posted May 11, 2016 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Childofvenus,

I think that NINE has a point in the projection. and about your question about having placement that resonates with the moon and venus in the same person?

if the person has a conflict OWNING his venus or his moon, he will split them in two people no matter is the person has both placement. you may have for instance both placement, but you also may play only one side and project the other, then your "rival" can also have both placement but "play" one and project the other. normally in relationship, if you attract a man with this conflict it is common we have the conflict ourselves but in the opposite direction. hence, the problem it is not having or not the placement, but OWNING them. some people split their affections because they cannot accept one person has both placement. it is like the feeling for the mother, they see the mother as "nurturer" and cannot think of his "wife" as a sexy woman as something inside trigger anxiety.

Liz Green has an article about triangles and also in her book relationships and how to survive them. she explains thoroughly why and how these splits occur and how the the people attracted into this triangles bring similar conflict natally but complementary.... does it make sense?
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_triangle_e.htm

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posted May 11, 2016 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this was posted in 2012 by marserimer in this forum... I found it very good at explaning your question
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212752-3.html

Moon square venus on mutable signs and angles here. I got also moon trine pluto so i dont show my feelings until she is in love with me. Problem is when it is square they are so bizarre to each other that(the nurturers,emotions vs desires) you cant satisfy them both at the same time. So when i get nurtured i dont like the girl psyhically. When the girl is beatiful, she cant satisfy my emotions. Only solution is finding someone with moon square venus on your square also with swapped places. Otherwise forget a very good relationship till you die. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/207771.html
I have one bad news and one very bad news.
I went through nearly every possible ideal perfect partner natal chart element combination's for those who have "Moon square Venus" in their natal chart.

First of all i am not gonna quote anything about this aspect's explanation.
You can read from; www.cafeastrology.com
or www.astro.com

as you read from there and know, people with these aspect including me are doomed to have more challenges than compatible moon-venus combination owners. This is a "FACT". Even how far you achieved to balance the incompatible energy coming from them,you had/have still that imcompatibleness hidden in you. At least as the time goes by you learned to "desire the one you get along or get along with the one you desire". But still it is not real you. SO this is unfair anyway..

Now for the chart. Lets assume there is chart which is nearly perfect match for you which is created around ten year circle you born. So lets assume this chart "exists". In order to have a perfect match, the partner also HAS TO have moon-venus square aspects.
Lets see why.
Lets assume your square includes-Fire and Water
In order to get sextiles, trines or conjunctions in synastry, your partner square must include Fire-Water(for the conjunction and trine) or (lets assume quincunx is acceptible)Air-Water(for sextile).

So it is valid for every element combination you have.. as you see, combinations are between incompatible elements.

if you got the point then the big problem arises. Before the explanation->.. Moon square Venus people relationships are not very long or "generally" in harmony. Because when these people fell in love with their "moon(it is the general case)" as the time goes by and feelings got softened they tend to seek "Venus" which is incompatible with their partner generally. One way or another they understand they are not very compatible(i did not say incompatible). Because Moon(emotions) and Venus(desires) are at cross-purposes.

İf we get back to point where problem arise.. So as you see for perfect match both partners HAVE TO HAVE "MOON-SQUARE-VENUS" in their natal chart so their desires and emotions can have good match. First of all In synastry, Moon-Venus good combination is more important than Moon-Moon or Venus-Venus compatibility. so when they have both square in their natal chart (which is compatible in synastry ofc) they can be really happy but... the problem is the partners are prone to emerge their non-harmony energies when in relationship. Even they are compatible the partners will have challenges in theirselves. It means that these people are problematic in their nature. if we both partners are problematic then how can it be a perfect love? soon or later problems will arise even in a perfect synastry or composite chart. I AM NOT SAYING THEY CAN NOT BE HAPPY.. I AM JUST SAYING THAT SOMEWHERE INNER SIDE of partners they will know something is not perfect. IT can be really good relationship but it will never be as Neptune demands . Moon-Venus opposition in natal chart people dont have these problems because when they found someone with Moon-Venus conjunction combination and trines one of your opposite planets and other planet will take sextile also(sextile + trine = opposition). So it is good.

I have a Moon-Square-Venus also by the way
Conclusion: WE ARE DOOMED NOT TO HAVE an EPİC RELATİONSHİP FOR LONG.

-Just date with two partners one of who will satisfy your moon and the other one will satisfy your Venus.

PROBLEM SOLVED!!!

Also people with chiron in 5th or 7th house(if chiron is in cancer or pisces it gets worse) and Ceres hard aspects to Venus and Uranus may also be doomed to nurture more than being nurtured..

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posted May 11, 2016 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I realized you posted in that thread, then you already got your answer?

in my experience it is all about solving the problem at home. when you have a venus-moon square rather than looking in synastry match, the conflict will still be there as you cannot attract anything different than you are ready to...

how to go about it? psychotherapy helps (not behavioural neither cognitive please). not sure a person can get into all the unconscious reason for the split without going through therapy, as most of the time it comes out of unresolved "edipo" conflict. sometimes it is hard for a man to see a woman as lover as these two concepts in his mind are split. it comes from early life, and at the end it is the chart. no matter how the mother behaved or felt during his childhood it is how the baby-child "filtered" the experience. when someone is born with such square, this person comes to learn how to integreates these two feminine archetypes. outside solutions will not make up for the internal conflict.

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posted May 11, 2016 05:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you know if you identify more with the persons Moon or Venus? What if the other person has Venus square Saturn or Venus square Uranus in their chart? I read where someone here stated that they attracted men who has the Moon square Venus aspect but that they themselves had Venus square Saturn. I know someone who I think has this Moon/Venus aspect. And I believe that I may identify with his moon more. Yet I don't believe he has a problem being sexually involved with me.

You said that if a person is attracted to a person with this aspect they must have this issue as well. Perhaps it's my Venus square Saturn and Venus square Uranus (fear of commitment) that causes me to be attracted. Also having aspects in synastry to the persons Moon or Venus doesn't help?

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posted May 11, 2016 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Not possible? And why is that? I didn't say I had Virgo Venus. I'm a Taurus sun and he has Venus in Virgo. I was asking if my sun in Taurus would be compatible with his Venus in Virgo.

Yes you did say you have a Virgo Venus. Reread what you posted.

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posted May 11, 2016 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do not have a Virgo Venus I said the guy has a Virgo Venus and I am a sun taurus with Venus in Pisces.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
[b]Not possible? And why is that? I didn't say I had Virgo Venus. I'm a Taurus sun and he has Venus in Virgo. I was asking if my sun in Taurus would be compatible with his Venus in Virgo.


Yes you did say you have a Virgo Venus. Reread what you posted. [/B][/QUOTE]

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posted May 11, 2016 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 11, 2016 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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How do you know if you identify more with the persons Moon or Venus? What if the other person has Venus square Saturn or Venus square Uranus in their chart? I read where someone here stated that they attracted men who has the Moon square Venus aspect but that they themselves had Venus square Saturn. I know someone who I think has this Moon/Venus aspect. And I believe that I may identify with his moon more. Yet I don't believe he has a problem being sexually involved with me.

You said that if a person is attracted to a person with this aspect they must have this issue as well. Perhaps it's my Venus square Saturn and Venus square Uranus (fear of commitment) that causes me to be attracted. Also having aspects in synastry to the persons Moon or Venus doesn't help?


one way to know where you side is by observing your reactions of your gut level toward people who can express characteristics of the planets with the sing and and aspects you may have. for instance. venus in taurus.. all the characterisitcs and people who own this characteristics. do you like them? do you dont, why?

on the other hand, sometimes it is not specific placement but the archetypes are sort of distributed in a chart by house, sign house cusp and other aspects. lets say you have venus in taurus and also trine ascendant and venus conjunct sun...if you have had a negative experience with your father (sun) or venus in 4th house and had negative experience with the father for reasons associated to venus, you may reject anything that can be associated to a characteristics you may share with him.. so it is not only the venus in taurus, but anything venusian there....

or neptunian, or uranian or saturnian. I dont think it is an specific planet a person side with, but a set of configuration that convey an archetype.

if you are interested read something about "shadow" then, you may start finding out what can be your projecting and what are you owning in your chart...

people in our lives tend to fill the gaps we are to fill ourselves, they serve as mirror for our own development... is it your square Saturn-venus or venus-uranus? that may play a role, specially Uranus needs for excitement and unpredictable. if the guy is not 100% sure, then it is "exciting".. but not necesarilly needs this type of conflict. excitement can be just having enough space, having different hobbies and leave some space for "surprise" not necessarily means having a guy who cannot integrate two femeinin archetypes...same with Saturn-venus

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posted May 11, 2016 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well there has to be something in my chart that would make me attracted to someone who has Moon square Venus in their natal. I said it maybe my Venus square Uranus because people with this aspect don't like being tied down. They also tend to fall in and out of love quickly. I'm thinking that people who have the moon square venus aspect in their chart may also feel the same way at times. Yes I do like excitement and eccentric type people. Unconventional relationships if it's not that aspect which causes the attraction then I don't know what it is.
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one way to know where you side is by observing your reactions of your gut level toward people who can express characteristics of the planets with the sing and and aspects you may have. for instance. venus in taurus.. all the characterisitcs and people who own this characteristics. do you like them? do you dont, why?

on the other hand, sometimes it is not specific placement but the archetypes are sort of distributed in a chart by house, sign house cusp and other aspects. lets say you have venus in taurus and also trine ascendant and venus conjunct sun...if you have had a negative experience with your father (sun) or venus in 4th house and had negative experience with the father for reasons associated to venus, you may reject anything that can be associated to a characteristics you may share with him.. so it is not only the venus in taurus, but anything venusian there....

or neptunian, or uranian or saturnian. I dont think it is an specific planet a person side with, but a set of configuration that convey an archetype.

if you are interested read something about "shadow" then, you may start finding out what can be your projecting and what are you owning in your chart...

people in our lives tend to fill the gaps we are to fill ourselves, they serve as mirror for our own development... is it your square Saturn-venus or venus-uranus? that may play a role, specially Uranus needs for excitement and unpredictable. if the guy is not 100% sure, then it is "exciting".. but not necesarilly needs this type of conflict. excitement can be just having enough space, having different hobbies and leave some space for "surprise" not necessarily means having a guy who cannot integrate two femeinin archetypes...same with Saturn-venus


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posted May 11, 2016 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never thought of myself as having Moon square Venus until today but I totally do. My Moon 8 Capricorn and my Venus 17 Libra. I know it's a wide square but it probably explains a few things.

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posted May 11, 2016 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well there has to be something in my chart that would make me attracted to someone who has Moon square Venus in their natal. I said it maybe my Venus square Uranus because people with this aspect don't like being tied down. They also tend to fall in and out of love quickly. I'm thinking that people who have the moon square venus aspect in their chart may also feel the same way at times. Yes I do like excitement and eccentric type people. Unconventional relationships if it's not that aspect which causes the attraction then I don't know what it is.

yes, i think that need for unpredictable must likely is venus-uranus. what I said is that the uranian need does not mean need for someone with venus-moon square.. or someone who has not well integreated the hetaira and nurturer-mother archetype... you may live uranus in may live uranus in many other ways. but of course, a guy who does not know what he wants is unpredictable and that is "exciting", but you also can have a very well integrated moon-venus with love for freedom and space, who needs time by himself. does make him also "exciting" as well. or he needs to be absent for work or he has many interest that you find "different"..that is why i said it is not necerily related to the two particular placement you mentioned. at least not the need for venus-moon square guys...

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So is it possible to have a long term friendship with a person with this aspect?
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yes, i think that need for unpredictable must likely is venus-uranus. what I said is that the uranian need does not mean need for someone with venus-moon square.. or someone who has not well integreated the hetaira and nurturer-mother archetype... you may live uranus in may live uranus in many other ways. but of course, a guy who does not know what he wants is unpredictable and that is "exciting", but you also can have a very well integrated moon-venus with love for freedom and space, who needs time by himself. does make him also "exciting" as well. or he needs to be absent for work or he has many interest that you find "different"..that is why i said it is not necerily related to the two particular placement you mentioned. at least not the need for venus-moon square guys...

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Looking at my natal chart I have Venus Semi-Square Moon I'm not sure what that means. So now I'm thinking that this is probably why I feel attracted to him. Since I have the semisquare.

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I'm wondering if this is why I told my ex that something was missing in our relationship towards the end. Or would that be because of my Venus square Uranus?

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i had this aspect with someone dear to me. i don't think it's a negative aspect at all. he was expecting me to be a little more traditional at home - like cooking, waiting for him, making him comfort. while i had a kind of differrent approach. but it did not affect our love life in general.

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