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Topic: Those in long term relationships, what are your Saturn aspects?
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8906 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 12, 2016 06:41 PM
Im just interested in seeing these aspects...seeing which aspects potentially repeat in different long term relationships.Please list how long you've known each other. How long did it take to solidify the relationship? How long to move in together or marry? Where there obstacles? What were they? List all the significant saturn aspects including Juno and Vertex in synastry and composite. Also list how your composite saturn touches each of your natal charts. ***List degrees for all*** Please feel free to tell your story about how your relationship evolved and how its going today... IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8906 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 13, 2016 10:12 AM
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alludeu Knowflake Posts: 329 From: Australia Registered: Aug 2016
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posted August 13, 2016 11:09 AM
My mum and dad were together a full (uninterupted) decade before they split. The aspects were: Her saturn conj his mercury, Her saturn oppose his uranus and His saturn square her jupiter His saturn conjunct her mars and an out of sign aspect with her 27 degrees taurus and his saturn 1 degree gemini. My dad had to work away a lot to support the family while my mum stayed home and was a housewife. My mum has lots of dominant gemini and aquarius in her chart which (possibly?) was why she didnt like the type and amount of restriction. But her venus in taurus has allowed her to stick it out in all of her relationships.. My dad also has his venus in taurus.. IP: Logged |
Delilah423 Knowflake Posts: 689 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 13, 2016 11:50 AM
Well, I guess it depends upon what you mean by a long term relationship. Maybe you can use my example as a control of some sort.We first met 25 years ago and ran into each other on and off over the years until we got together 3 years ago. We don't live together, mostly because of my cats and his OCD about cat hair and litter. Composite Saturn is square Composite Uranus (1 degree). In synastry, we have Sun/Saturn, Mars/Saturn and Vesta/Saturn double whammies: His Sun trine my Saturn (5) My Sun sextile his Saturn (0) His Mars quincunx my Saturn (2) My Mars trine his Saturn (3) His Vesta trine my Saturn (0) My Vesta quintile his Saturn (0) In addition, his Jupiter sextile my Saturn (0) and my Moon trine his Saturn (5) Composite Saturn to natals: opposes my Jupiter (0) squares my Mars (1) quincunx my Moon (1) and IC (1 in the other direction) quincunx his Juno (2) sextile his Eros/Psyche MP (1) conjunct his Moon/Mars MP (0) EDIT: In addition to Composite Saturn square Composite Uranus, we also have Composite Venus sextile Composite Saturn (5), NN to Saturn (2) and Chiron to Saturn (3)
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DopGang Knowflake Posts: 3194 From: MBTI - INTJ -- Enneagram - 5w6 Registered: Jun 2015
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posted August 13, 2016 12:35 PM
My Saturn: Saturn opposite Saturn Saturn sextile moonHer Saturn: Opposite mine as above Trine Pluto Sextile Neptune If you throw in declination her Saturn contra parallel my moon.
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8906 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 13, 2016 01:49 PM
Thank you for your responses!! ❤️IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 13, 2016 03:03 PM
With my husbandPlease list how long you've known each other. 18 years, married 17 How long did it take to solidify the relationship? Knew him about 5 months before taking an interest (attended the same church.) It took another 3 months for him to ask me out. It took one date to solidify the relationship. How long to move in together or marry? Five months Where there obstacles? Yes What were they? For one, everyone objected to the rushed marriage. (Maybe a function of Uranus transiting conjunct my Aqua DSC and his progressed DSC.) And I almost backed out at one point because we were rushing into things, and I got some warning signs it wasn't going to be perfect. I have a complicated relationship with "perfection"...edit You saw List all the significant saturn aspects including Juno and Vertex in synastry and composite. Well there's a lot. His Saturn conjunct my Venus, trine my ASC, sextile my Mercury. My Saturn widely conjunct his sun, semisextile his Mercury-Pluto. We both have moon = Saturn/Uranus midpoint Our Saturns are widely trine, 7°. Also list how your composite saturn touches each of your natal charts. His moon conjunct composite IC-Saturn (exact conjunction). My Mercury and Psyche form a grand air trine with IC-Saturn. ***List degrees for all*** I like to be shadowy about his chart just to make it less explicit for privacy reasons. Hope that's okay. I use tight orbs or specify "wide." Please feel free to tell your story about how your relationship evolved and how its going today... It has improved in some ways and remains difficult in some ways. Actually we were arguing a few minutes ago about something that has been an issue since day one. Exhausting. Possibly we have an imbalance, like Saturn is the dominant planet in our relationship, but I never tried to figure that out empirically. Maybe I should get the Pullen rankings for our Davison chart....hmmm. Please don't quote IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 3194 From: MBTI - INTJ -- Enneagram - 5w6 Registered: Jun 2015
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posted August 13, 2016 06:09 PM
Oh. I forgot all of the other questions! But you kind of know anyway. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8906 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 14, 2016 11:06 AM
Thank you so much Faith for going into detail, that really helps!! Plus, no squares...interesting! Even though you have troubles, as we all do, you stick it out with relative ease potentially. I was wondering, do you know your MTBI personality type? The issue you have in relationships is very much like an INFJ issue or maybe an ISFJ issue but i dont think your either of those types. Im wondering if maybe your ENFP or ESFP...I don't know though im not very good at identifying types just yet unless im around someone.@Dop, you could still answer id like to be able to have the information here for me and others to look at! 😊 IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 14, 2016 12:02 PM
Hi Gabby...I forgot to mention that my Saturn squares his Neptune. But you're right, no Saturn squares to personal planets. The lack of those squares might have helped us stay together. Last time I took the personality test I was INFP, owing to all my Neptune I guess. edit Hope all is well with you.
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DopGang Knowflake Posts: 3194 From: MBTI - INTJ -- Enneagram - 5w6 Registered: Jun 2015
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posted August 14, 2016 12:13 PM
Please list how long you've known each other. Between 2 and 3 years. How long did it take to solidify the relationship? Ha! Well, we "knew" each other for a few months but didn't talk personally except for a few weeks before solidifying the relationship. How long to move in together or marry? Weeks to move in and 5 months to marry. Where there obstacles? Not too many. The most obvious two were physical distance and her family wasn't onboard at first. Now it's like they can't love me enough. It's funny. List all the significant saturn aspects including Juno and Vertex in synastry and composite. Natal My Saturn: Saturn opposite Saturn Saturn sextile moon Her Saturn: Opposite mine as above Trine Pluto Sextile Neptune My Juno: Conjunct her Sun Her Juno: Conjunct my MC / square Asc **I used only a couple degree orbs** My Anti-vertex conjunct her sun Trine her Mars and Juno Her Vertex: Nothing super obvious I get overwhelmed looking at all of this. Composite Saturn square a mars/moon conjunction. Saturn Trine Sun. Composite to natals Saturn trine my Venus Saturn sextile her Mars Saturn Trine her Asc/Neptune/Uranus IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8906 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 14, 2016 02:49 PM
Dop, again very few harsh aspects....n the way you guys are together, i love it! You seem so natural and like its easy to want to stay together. Thank you for posting your answers! IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14765 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 14, 2016 03:11 PM
Well I have been with Brady about 9.5 years total....His Juno conjunct Saturn are right on my Sun. My saturn conjuncts his Eros and mercury. Saturn rules my 3rd conjuncts pluto chart ruler and falls in my 12th and he looooves talking and I like to be in my head or talk about pluto stuff. He says I don't listen but I feel overwhelmed by his need to talk so much in my perspective, at the same time I like it to some extent. My saturn trines his moon which rules his 3rd. In composite we have Saturn conjunct Valentine squaring our nodes which Leeloo pointed out is a sign of marriages that last; saturn squaring the Nodes. I should add that my Juno opposes my saturn and he has saturn conjunct Juno. His vertex sextiles exact my Venus and my Mars. My vertex conjunct destinn sextiles exact his sun. IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 3194 From: MBTI - INTJ -- Enneagram - 5w6 Registered: Jun 2015
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posted August 14, 2016 03:22 PM
Thank you Gabby. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 4122 From: love lives forever Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 14, 2016 03:40 PM
Faith, it's interesting that you share a Saturn/Moon midpoint picture with your husband.... D and I both have Saturn/Venus = Moon... been thinking about it lately...I'm not going to answer the full thing because I feel like 9.months maybe doesn't cut the biscuit... still my second longest romantic relationship, and we've known each other many many years... so what the heck... Mine ~ His Saturn square Moon Saturn conjunct Neptune Saturn conjunct South Node Saturn sextile Saturn Saturn trine Mars Saturn conjunct draco Moon Saturn sextile Pluto Saturn novile MC Saturn biquintile Chiron Ascendant conjunct Saturn Midheaven binovile Saturn Juno sextile Saturn Pallas square Saturn Mars quincinx Saturn Jupiter quincunx Saturn Composite Venus trine Saturn Ceres square Saturn Jupiter square Saturn Davison Venus Sun Mercury sextile Saturn -the composite and davison aspects are incomplete as of now, will finish in a bit--
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Someday Soon Knowflake Posts: 41 From: Registered: Sep 2015
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posted August 14, 2016 05:47 PM
How long have you known each other? 22 years How long did it take to solidify the relationship? Our 2nd date How long to move in together or marry? Moved in together within a few weeks and married after about 5 1/2 months. Where there obstacles? Not really, but our relationship has been anything but easy....we just "keep on swimming"... What were they? List all the significant saturn aspects including Juno and Vertex in synastry and composite. Also list how your composite saturn touches each of your natal charts. ***List degrees for all***My Saturn is at 12.21 Cancer His Saturn is at 17.01 Cancer My sun (13.58 Aries) squares his Saturn at 3 deg. My moon (23.30 Cap) widely opposes his Saturn at 6 deg. My venus (18.38 Taurus) sextiles his Saturn at 1 deg. My mars (24.20 Aqua) biquintile his Saturn at 1 deg) My NN (3.39 Sag) and MC (0.57 Sag) sesquisquares his Saturn at 0 deg. and 1 deg. And, now his planet/point/angle(s) to my Saturn: His sun contraparallel my saturn (0 deg) Venus widely oppose saturn (7 deg) mars biquintile saturn (1 deg) Jupiter trines saturn (1 deg) Saturn conjunct saturn (4 deg) Neptune inconjunct saturn (2 deg) Pluto square Saturn (3 deg) Vertex semi-sextiles Saturn (0 deg) Juno widely trines Saturn (4 deg) MC squares Saturn (0 deg) Composites aspects: Mars (14.30 Cap) Opposite Saturn (14.40 Can)- 0 deg Venus trine Saturn (2.46 deg) Jupiter widely trine saturn (7.53 deg) Juno (is on my natal Sun) square Saturn (0.33 deg) Saturn widely oppose the AC (5.59 deg) conjunct DC Natal Aspects to Composite Saturn: My natal AC is inconjunct C Saturn. My N Sun is square C Saturn My N venus/juno midpt is sextile C Saturn (0 deg) His N Mc square C Saturn (1-2 deg) His N Juno trine C Saturn (1-2 deg) There are probably more, but I'm out of time to look. IP: Logged |
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posted August 14, 2016 06:18 PM
I know a young couple who I think will remain married - they have a Saturn conjunct Moon DW. He proposed to her 6 months after they met.IP: Logged |
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posted August 15, 2016 11:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: WMaybe I should get the Pullen rankings for our Davison chart....hmmm.
What a stunning idea! I`ve never thought about that before! not wanting to derail the thread but our stats: Mercury 17,3% Venus 15,7% Saturn 12,0% (Pluto 10,6%)
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posted August 15, 2016 02:12 PM
my parents -----------"Please list how long you've known each other." 46 years "How long did it take to solidify the relationship? " Started dating practically instantly.
"How long to move in together or marry?" 3 years after meeting. "Where there obstacles? " No. Not really. Well there was a former engagement of my Dad and he was still being in written contact with her, or actually she was writing him, and my grandmother was favouring her to my mom. But my Dad pretty quickly cut even this loose written connection, as it was clear he wanted something serious with my mom.
"List all the significant saturn aspects including Juno and Vertex in synastry and composite. "
his Saturn semisquare her Sun exact his Saturn conjunct her Venus exact his Saturn conjunct her Mars (5) her Saturn trine his Sun (3) her Saturn trine his Venus (5) her Saturn conjunct his Mars exact her Saturn trine his Jupiter (3) her Saturn conjunct his SN exact composite Saturn sextile Venus (2) semisquare ASC (1) conjunct SN (4) conjunct Mars (2) "Also list how your composite saturn touches each of your natal charts." composite Saturn 28 Virgo conjunct her Moon exact square his Uranus (3-4)
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posted August 15, 2016 02:16 PM
BTW Saturn-squares are not a death sentence, in fact they come up frequently in lasting relationships, but if they do, there needs to be something VERY strong describing the enjoyment and compatibility and affection and love for each other through other aspects.
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posted August 15, 2016 02:31 PM
my best friend and her husband ------------------------------"Please list how long you've known each other." round about 20 years I think. "How long did it take to solidify the relationship? " they were friends for several years and only became a couple, about 4-5 years after meeting
"How long to move in together or marry?" Once they got together, they moved in with each other 3 years later, and got married 4 years later. Have been married for 12 years now, with 4 children by now.
"Where there obstacles? " Yes, he was already blindly in love with her (which she did not realize, while my friend was still battling through a disastrous affair with a psycho and the breaking up of a longterm relationship. Once she got herself sorted, they got together and have been together ever since. She did know about his feelings a while before getting together, but he also was patiently waiting in the background, giving her all the time she needed. In fact he proposed to her, while she was processing the break-up with her former boyfriend, but equally told her that he wouldn`t pressure her, and if she was ready, that would be okay, and if not, he`d accept it, too, but that he wanted her to know how he felt about her and that she could always count on him as a friend as well, even if she could not reciprocrate his feelings. Eventually she did reciprocrate, and I suppose did so quite much, considering the 4 children. lol)
Another problem were his parttime drinking and drugs-issues and neglecting himself. I thought she was organizing his life a bit much and even thought it was controlling and dominating. lol But seems it was exactly what he needed, someone to give him a REAL guidance. There have been no drinking- nor drugs issues ever since. "List all the significant saturn aspects including Juno and Vertex in synastry and composite. "
his Saturn sextile her Jupiter exact his Saturn square her Uranus (3) his Saturn square her nodal axis (3) her Saturn quinkunx his Sun (1) her Saturn opposite his Moon (3) her saturn trine his Jupiter (3) her Saturn trine his Neptune exact her Saturn sextile his Pluto exact her Saturn square his MC (2) composite Saturn: trine Mercury (1) square Uranus exact square Venus (1) square Jupiter (2)
Venus 7 Scorpio conj. Uranus 5 Scorpio oppospite Jupiter 8 Taurus square Saturn 6 Leo Funny enough there is NOTHING unstable about them at all! In fact it seems like while each of them was somehow in a destabilized lifecondition when they met, once they got together, they have been the most stable couple except for my parents I have ever seen!
"Also list how your composite saturn touches each of your natal charts."
composite Saturn sextile her Mercury (1) square her Uranus (1) square her Node (2) opposite his Mercury (4) trine his Venus (3) square his Uranus exact ***List degrees for all*** IP: Logged |
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posted August 15, 2016 02:48 PM
My brother and his girlfriend "Please list how long you've known each other." Not exactly sure but at least 11-12 years.
"How long did it take to solidify the relationship? " Started out as "sort - of- friends", then got together, had a row every other day and she would throw out his things, break up and get together again, until he broke up for her for real after a year of dating, only to realize that walking away was not that easy THIS time. I have never seen my brother as sad and heartbroken and griefing as in these few weeks they were broken up. Well they got back together very quickly again, and this turned out to be the real thing.
Have been in a completely committed and close relationship for the past 10 years. Also despite occasional temperamental flares very very stable (also I suppose because my brother supported her endlessly during a very painful period in her life, with her estranged father, whom she had to take to court over the alimony, I think it is in English? Her parents were divorced and he refused to either pay for her education nor even see or have contact with her, which was so heartbreaking. Well they seem to reconcile a bit now). "How long to move in together or marry?" No marriage, mainly i think because my brother is an idiot!! It`s not that he does not want to settle down with her, he is as settled with her as can be, I don`t relaly know why he is so against marriage (maybe because he feels he should be more established? he is still studying, and in his exams right now) Anyway I would not be surprised if they got married in about a year from now, or so. I donīt think he really wants to have to adopt his own child!!!
They moved in with each other, well I don`t quite know, but at least 5-6 years ago. And have become parents to a wonderful healthy baby boy on 4th august.
"List all the significant saturn aspects including Juno and Vertex in synastry and composite. " his Saturn quinkunx her Mercury 1) his Saturn trine her Venus exact his Saturn sextile her Neptune (2) his Saturn conjunct her Pluto (2) her Saturn trine his Sun exact her Saturn quinkunx his Venus (2) her saturn sesisquare his Nodes exact composite Saturn widely conjunct Moon (6-7) sesisquare Venus (1) semisquare Jupiter exact "Also list how your composite saturn touches each of your natal charts." sesisquare his ASC exact (trine his Sun 5) sesisquare her Sun (2) semisquare her Moon exact sextile her Jupiter exact IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 4122 From: love lives forever Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 15, 2016 03:59 PM
"Another problem were his parttime drinking and drugs-issues and neglecting himself. I thought she was organizing his life a bit much and even thought it was controlling and dominating. lol But seems it was exactly what he needed, someone to give him a REAL guidance."And that's exactly what hard Saturn aspects are often all about... her Saturn quincunx his Sun and opposite his Moon. IP: Logged |
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posted August 15, 2016 04:28 PM
Yes, exactly.She also structured my life (without her I probably would never have made exam, just because I would have procrastinated out of fear of failure supposedly) her Saturn opposes my Moon as well. oh and my Saturn squares her Moon (we structured each other mutually I guess)
BTW I think June Carter`s Saturn was conjunct Johnny Cash`s MC and squared his nodal axis. She most definitely "put him back on track" IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 4122 From: love lives forever Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 15, 2016 05:22 PM
I have a hard time with D's Saturn on my Ascendant, but then I remember that Michelle Obama's Saturn is on Barack Obama's Ascendant... and see where that got them! It's SO hard to have every little action which is not perfect criticized mercilessly... but guess what... it's making me the most responsible possible version of myself. And that's what I want to be. My choice to put myself through the relationship. It luckily has enough shiny Neptune, Jupiter.. and other things... that we are carried through the especially hard times.Saturn is karmic, we hear that a lot. Saturn is glue, we hear that too. Saturn though, essentially, I'm thinking, is real world reality and responsibility to the actual physical world as it really is. It is not Neptune. It is not Uranus. Obviously... But yeah, it REALLY doesn't cut corners. A strong Saturn contact forces whatever it's contacting to shape up, one way or another. Arroyo says that relationships with strong Saturn often face a turning point; the person being Saturnized has their Saturn return, or something happens, and they no longer feel responsible to that other person, because the lesson has been learned. Then they need to redefine the relationship. It can't go on with Saturn holding the whip in the same way. It either changes or ends. Likely a new and subtle form of Saturn lessons emerges... Bodrogi says that often a Saturn contact comes to us through synastry if we aren't "doing" our own Saturn well enough, type thing. Once we take it on for ourselves, the need for that pressure is reduced. These are all interesting, practical, useful approaches to viewing Saturn in relationship. IP: Logged |