posted January 10, 2017 10:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
No, all i am saying that we sould use this into consideration.

I am not saying that the energy we provide on the asteroid is not to count

also, there has been an extensive research by one astrologer who said that she found out that name asteroids conjuncting one personal planets/angles are often found in significant synastriees, like marriage partners, parents, children, etc.

EDIT: at least she did an extensive resarch, not just a few if any and didn't use it to act like a bad omen

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Got it.

I'd love to see that research if it's online.

For Reiki, I want to be able to apply the healing-modality meaning of the word.

I've seen it work so splendidly, to signify healing taking place in Reiki-like fashion.

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posted January 10, 2017 10:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:

ETA: But I still do wonder what to do with the information that an asteroid was named after a specific person, when we don't know anything about that person. Seems like a dead end street unless we are told what the person's accomplishment was, to earn the asteroid.

And typically people must consider that application a bit too much of a stretch.

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Sure, there are many ways and god knows only which one is the right one

No, seriously, we recently talked about that and to be honest, i have not yet found the receipt how to determine the vibe of an asteroid correctly.

I think anything must be considered: the name, the origin, maybe the natal chart of the time the asteroid was discovered.

Of course, that would stretch it and it's a bit too exhausting and i understand and partly even agree if people say "this is going too far, it's the energy that counts most".

Having said that, hobby astrologers and above all astrologers who adivce clients in need, should be cautious and respectful when determining the real meaning of an asteroid, esp. if it's a bad meaning and esp. if there was no research of anyone before.

posted January 10, 2017 10:49 AM            

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posted January 10, 2017 11:25 AM            

you and me are going to have to disagree on this, just this one time. (or not?)

Granted I can be wrong of course, I`ve seen the asteroids "work" (as far as they do work and it is not all a matter of perception of course) matched to their name meaning. So yes, Reiki, might it be named after someone, has been prominent in either connections with people or in occasions/ events where touch has been energizing and healing.

Actually I wrote that before looking the last such occasion up, and when I did after writing this paragraph, I had to almost laugh. Of course Tr Reiki would have been conjunct my Venus.
curiously enough right on composite Reiki - fitting moment for a Reiki-return me thinks, what do you think, Faith?

Not a proof at all, just a random example of a personal experience. MIght be just a coincidence of course.

Also, the name asteroid Kerstin is most probably not named after me, yet it comes up, too, in those event charts. Also I noticed that esp. in some men`s chart my name asteroid seems to consistently fall onto the 8-11 Pisces area. I was wondering why this is so until I realized that it actually means it is conjunct my chartruler in my own chart, and maybe - next to 7 and 26 Sag and 17 of fixed signs, the one degree area that I identify mostly with myself.

As I said just random examples, but having gathered those over the years, it actually suffices for me to be convinced at least of the name asteroids.

We could still debate about others of course.

However I won`t.

Just settling on disagreeing for now.

And on the other topic.

Pholus and Nessus in conjunction are at least semi-generational. They would need to be attached to personal planets or on an angle, to be "personalized".

And even then it does not mean that Pholus brings out abuse in the Nessus person, in the sense that Nessus will abuse the other person.

What it does however is that it brings themes associated with Nessus to the "surface" (and in Pholus way - one small step, and afte rthat nothing will ever be the same. and you might not even have anticipated it).

Those themes can be about abuse too, also themes surrounding power and manipulation, also about greed and wanting too much, about being vindictive etc.

These themes can be experienced in different ways of course, sometimes it is just a great sensitivity towards those themes,s ometimes it is a direct experience, either passively or actively, as victim or perpretator, sometimes it can lead to almost therapeutic dealing with the theme in question.

posted January 10, 2017 11:29 AM            

ONe event in which one sentence really effected so much healing and more, Mercury conjunct Reiki on the DESC and the AP on 00 Cncer. Wow, that is so fitting. lol

posted January 10, 2017 11:49 AM            

That was a joke!
You can have your aura and reiki

As I said, the energy counts a lot. So if you have an asteroid called Reiki and Aura, I believe it must have something to do with Reiki and Aura, especially facing that it has exactly the same Name.
I also do believe in the significance of Name asteroids!

However, I do NOT believe in an asteroid that was named in Germany after a German town and that is used by foreigners to make up their own meaning. Sorry, this is going too far

Also, saying Kaali has something to do with kundalini when neither the source nor the godess has something to do with it: going too far

Do you get my point?

posted January 10, 2017 11:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Ceridwen,

That was a joke!

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I know you were joking, but wanted to actually check it up. As if you could take Aura or Reiki away from me!!!!

oh btw the family name of a cousin of my maternal grandfather is "Jung" and I was studying with a psychology professor and pädagogical professor (no clue how it is really called in English) who was having the same family name.

posted January 10, 2017 12:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I know you were joking, but wanted to actually check it up. As if you could take Aura or Reiki away from me!!!!

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you are in denial

posted January 10, 2017 01:43 PM            

Anyway Kaali might actually have something to do with Kundalini. She was not ONLY the goddess of destruction, but actually the Kaali cult (despite its horrific parts, too) was celebrating the dance of life and death as a whole, it had more to do with the idea of "life-energy", than downright only death, though sadly the balance might have been disturbed. and their rituals were flatly gruesome.

Thus - it`s been long ago I was reading up about this, so I apologize for not giving details- I`d see her more symbolic of a very raw primal form of energy, physical-spiritual mostly.

posted January 10, 2017 07:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Cinnamon sky:
So I used to be somewhat skeptical related to asteroids, until today, when I looked at the synastry chart with one guy I used to date and I saw that his Nessus was on my Sun. I don't want to go into details but what I read about the Nessus person being obsessed or drawn to abusing the other person was spot on, in this case. Good that I didn't let him, for long.

Anyhow, now I started looking differently at asteroids

So my question would be, does Pholus conjunct Nessus in synastry mean something?
Let's say in something like a child-parent relationship?

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Hmm.. my interpretation of Nessus energy differs slightly. It still can be pretty unpleasant, in its own way. But there's more nuance to it than just abuse. I'll post a link to that thread - I'd written some thoughts around what it could mean.

As for Nessus conjunct Pholus - they're both asteroids, so a conjunction between them might not be as potent as, say, an asteroid-planet or planet-planet conjunction? On the other hand, we do tend to look for aspects between "paired-up" asteroids. There will be some value to this connection, but to what extent, I cannot say.
Btw, do any of the Pholus person's planets activate the other's Nessus as well?

Sorry I can't give an interpretation of this aspect alone, coz I don't have a handle on how Pholus functions in charts.