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GrlyGirl200
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posted July 05, 2017 03:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think Mars in man is for attraction, and Venus is for love.
Mars is what we are sexually attracted to, Venus is what we love and Moon is what is emotionally appealing to us.

I would say this is generally accepted to be true. But the thing is most people are complex, and don't fit into a mold. In general men tend to be driven by sexual attraction. In fact with most men getting them is a combo of it being the right timing, sex and attachment. It would make logical sense that energy that embodies sexual arousal would arouse them and cause them to take action. Astrology has been approaching Venus for a man to be what he loves, but what if it's not that. What if it's how he gives and receives loves as well. What if Venus in terms of love is a more abstract thing. For instance I've spoken a lot about a Libra man I really like. His Venus is in Leo, his Mars is in Scorpio, and his Moon is in Cancer. The only Leo thing I have is Mercury, but what if it's not that he likes Leo women or energy per se. He spent a better part of any interaction around me BADLY showing off...like it was obvious. This is of course how he flirts and puts himself out there (which makes sense as a Cancer Moon hates rejection). I expressed an attraction to him that I felt was inappropriate given the circumstances...and the minute I did he became less Leo like and actually is now like a Scorpio (observant...if anything is said it's said for a reason etc). We are also assuming that a man identifies with his Sun and Mars and a woman her Moon and Venus. What if the Libra man above I mentioned identifies as his Moon and Venus more (as a Cancer Moon is at it's strongest), which would make sense if he displayed Leo like qualities around me. I'm just saying I've seen too many cases of a man wanting his Mars (sign, element or whatever) as opposed to Venus. I really really wish astrology would touch on this.

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posted July 05, 2017 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought I'd put a few more examples of my theory:

- Cap Sun male Liam Hemsworth is engaged to Miley Cyrus. He has a Sag Mars, Leo Moon, and Aquarius Venus. Miley is a Sag Sun with Scorpio Moon Venus. Nothing in Aquarius.

- Aquarius Sun/Moon/Mer/Venus Ashton Kutcher is known for his relationships with Water women. He dated Scorpio Sun Brittany Murphy, married Scorpio Sun Demi Moore, dated Pisces Sun Rihanna after his divorce to Demi, and finally is currently married to Leo Sun Scorpio Moon Mila Kunis. His Mars is in Cancer. His birth time says Gemini Rising, but honestly I feel like he is a Scorpio Rising.

- Bruce Willis is a Pisces Sun with Aqurius Moon and Venus. He married Scorpio Sun Taurus Moon Demi Moore, and is currently married to Emma Heming a Gemini Sun and Scorpio Moon. His Mars is in Taurus.

- Richard Burton is a Scorpio Sun with Virgo Moon. His Venus is in Capricorn, and his Mars is in Libra. He is famous for twice marrying Pisces Sun Scorpio Moon Elizabeth Taylor. They were each others great loves. His Mars was directly Opp her Aries Venus-Uranus Conjunction.

- Aquarius Sun/Scorpio Moon Robbie Williams is married to a Taurus Sun/Mer/Mars/and maybe Venus depending on her time of birth. His Mars is in Taurus, with a Cap Venus. His wife has her Aquarius Moon on his Sun.

- And finally another one from my own personal life. I had a major crush on a Cap Sun/Venus guy. My Moon was on both of these placements. He only liked me as a friend, and around the same time begun dating a Taurus Sun Libra Moon. His Mars and Moon were in Aries.

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posted July 05, 2017 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GrandFireT:

If not moon dust, what else would a Mars Cancer girl be prospecting for in an otherwise Air/Fire environment?


Security lol. I'm a Cancer Mars girl who loves Air and Fire men. I LOVE me some Aquarius men. But my Mars forms a Yod with Uranus and Jupiter, and my Mars and Sun are Conjunct and in the 1st (also Conjunct my Asc). All you have to do is be funny, spontaneous, loving, kind, and have eyes only for her...BUT provide security and you'll have a nice Cancer Mars girl for as long as you want.

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posted July 05, 2017 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 05, 2017 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well- let's face it. Most men will happily sleep with a woman they have absolutely zero respect or value for. So while I do agree that sexual attraction is a strong proponent for male attraction, Mars is still not as important as Venus in the male's perspective. Venus is what a person finds Value in... and in a man's chart it also signifies his ideal wwoman- ie: the woman he is more likely to value above others. Mars would enhance his sexual interest for someone even more, but whether or not he truly values her will be indicated by connections to his venus. That's my take anyway.

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posted July 05, 2017 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GrlyGirl200:
I wouldn't consider a Sag Mars a Martian Mars per se, but in general a Fire Mars is a strong passionate and DESIRE filled Mars (I would say the least likely to do one night stands is Leo Mars...they love romance and the like). The funny thing I've noticed with most Sag Mars people is they have a love for new experiences, especially sexually.

The above Cancer Moon/Pisces Sun/Mercury/Venus with Virgo Asc I mentioned loved sex parties. And to this day has been very clear about not wanting to be reigned in. His chart has zero Aquarius and/or Uranus aspects. I know two other Sag Mars individuals (one female, another male) who are very promiscuous and they have all strong Water and/or Earth. The second male was in a relationship with a very sweet Leo and badly expressed a desire to open his relationship up so he could experience other girls. I would say that this Mars has a desire to experience. I wouldn't say cheat, because Sag as a sign is about honesty and integrity. But it is about experience. Two famous porn stars that off the bat I know got into porn due to the fact that they liked sex (...and not in the Scorpio way...they had it alot), and figured why not get paid to do something I love. One is Jayden James, who was on her way to becoming a lawyer and decided to do porn. The other is James Deen. A few celebrity examples of Sag Mars and having been with a lot of people are off the bat Jennifer Lopez and Kim Kardashian. Both have Sag Mars with a Libra/Virgo influence. Two male celebs with Sag Mars include Warren Beatty, and Jack Nicholson. The funny thing is that the famous "Bad Boy Drive" in old Hollywood featured the two above actors, in addition to Marlon Brando and Dennis Hopper. The last two actors had Sag Asc.


You are right on about Mars in Leo, I have this and I can do one night stands but I don't like them bc yes I freaking want romance and I link romance strongly with sex, if there is no romance I dont want to have sex with you. My goal is always either dating or a fwb arrangement that involves romantic feelings.

As for Mars with Sag I see what you mean but yes we have to look at the whole chart too, it sounds like your guy has a Mars singleton like Mars is the only planet in a fire sign, is that so? Just curious...

With my ex he has Mars in Sag and Venus in Libra conjunct Pluto and Juno in Libra and he has Saturn in Libra, he was a Scorpio. I loved his sexuality, he was a perfect fit for me but he likes been in a relationship and strives to be faithful from what I can see. I think the essence of Mars in sag is to experience other girls even if in love I agree but other factors in their chart can make them want to keep that in check like a strong libra and pluto influence in their chart.

I do like to experience a lot of people similar to mars in sag too but I want to feel romantic feelings for them though and value quality over quantity, if not is not worth it.

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posted July 05, 2017 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GrlyGirl200:
I would say this is generally accepted to be true. But the thing is most people are complex, and don't fit into a mold. In general men tend to be driven by sexual attraction. In fact with most men getting them is a combo of it being the right timing, sex and attachment. It would make logical sense that energy that embodies sexual arousal would arouse them and cause them to take action. Astrology has been approaching Venus for a man to be what he loves, but what if it's not that. What if it's how he gives and receives loves as well. What if Venus in terms of love is a more abstract thing.

I am leaning to were you are coming from with this but I do notice a lot of venus aspects in marriage bc of what you are saying they show and receive love in a similar way so is like "someone finally gets how I Need to receive love and how I show love." Both my parents and my husband and I have venus conjunct venus and venus conjunct mars.Both of my grandparents have a venus conjunct mars aspect too.

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posted July 05, 2017 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by manderin:
Well- let's face it. Most men will happily sleep with a woman they have absolutely zero respect or value for. So while I do agree that sexual attraction is a strong proponent for male attraction, Mars is still not as important as Venus in the male's perspective. Venus is what a person finds Value in... and in a man's chart it also signifies his ideal wwoman- ie: the woman he is more likely to value above others. Mars would enhance his sexual interest for someone even more, but whether or not he truly values her will be indicated by connections to his venus. That's my take anyway.

I seee your point but the reality is that what men value sometimes feels too intimidating and out of their field but if you touch their mars somehow they feel like they should act on the desire, it activates their courage and so they pursue you, it stirs them into action specially if you activate it via hard aspect.

You make great points about venus representing what they "value."

I think ultimately there is truth to both perspectives but I like her observations bc she is looking at this from a different angle.

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posted July 05, 2017 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I seee your point but the reality is that what men value sometimes feels too intimidating and out of their field but if you touch their mars somehow they feel like they should act on the desire, it activates their courage and so they pursue you, it stirs them into action specially if you activate it via hard aspect.

You make great points about venus representing what they "value."

I think ultimately there is truth to both perspectives but I like her observations bc she is looking at this from a different angle.


I think we are in agreement actually. Because I feel that you are right. Mars symbolizes our ambitions... how we go out and get the things we want. And of course sex is about wanting. Not necessarily loving. So yes I do agree that a strong mars element will make a man more likely to pursue while venus alone might make him pine from afar, but may not necessarily motivate him to go for it.

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posted July 06, 2017 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrandFireT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GrlyGirl200:
Security lol. I'm a Cancer Mars girl who loves Air and Fire men. I LOVE me some Aquarius men. But my Mars forms a Yod with Uranus and Jupiter, and my Mars and Sun are Conjunct and in the 1st (also Conjunct my Asc). All you have to do is be funny, spontaneous, loving, kind, and have eyes only for her...BUT provide security and you'll have a nice Cancer Mars girl for as long as you want.

Grly, thank you for your comments about the Mars Cancer woman. I considered starting a thread to discover more about women with this placement, and still might, but you've given me good insights in just a couple of sentences.

The Mars Cancer woman I referred to took me by surprise - a pleasant surprise at that. However, confusing behavior and other complications caused me to back away from what otherwise might have been a promising connection. I am no marriage breaker.

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posted July 06, 2017 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Male Mars Aires reporting in.

Not sure I've understood everything posted here. Nonetheless, here is one additional case history which supports at least some of what's been said.

Generally speaking Aires-strong woman do not capture my attention, nor do I capture theirs.

As I understand the mechanics, Aires always has the potential to repel, wherever it takes up residence. A couple of Aires Venus gals have driven by: however, in that sign the attractions tend to be here-today, gone-tomorrow.

I'm not familiar with any Aires Moon women, so I'll remain curious and open-mined about that possibility.

Hits on my natal Moon (Scorpio), on the other hand, have shown promise. As a matter of fact, without considering my lunar landscape, I can find no explanation whatsoever for the women who have made friendly visitations, not always via the conjunction.

If not moon dust, what else would a Mars Cancer girl be prospecting for in an otherwise Air/Fire environment?


Thanks for your insights on an Aries Mars man. My crush is an Aries Mars and it's interesting that you mention the Moon, because he's had a huge crush on this actress whose Venus conjuncts his Moon and trines his Venus and Mars.

Nice to know that if I ever do get involved with him, I don't have to be too threatened by Aries Venus women

Funny that, I'm a Cancer Mars woman and my Venus squares his Mars...I guess the big attraction points would be my Venus conjunct his DC and my Sun on his 5th house cusp. We have some interesting Venus/Mars and Moon/Mars aspects in Draconic, Composite, Davison and declinations . Do you have an Air/Fire Sun as well?

I think rather than saying men are "attracted" by their Mars, the better term would be "activated" by their Mars

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posted July 06, 2017 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrandFireT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are welcome, Beautiful.

Please don't take my comments as the "last word" on Male Mars Aires. Probably I should have added that mine is retro, which some astrologers say in this case can work to the native's advantage in preventing rash behavior.

I am air Sun. Okay - - - hot air with that Mars!!!!!!!!

You wrote, 'I think rather than saying men are "attracted" by their Mars, the better term would be "activated" by their Mars.'

What you've said makes sense. More and more, though, I seem to be assuming the passive Scorpio stance (moon) myself, so this business of what drives/activates/attracts men is apparently more complicated than it sounds.

I'd think the same must be true of women. Behavior one day might be Mars-driven, another day Venus-drive, two hours later Sun-driven, not to mention the other planetary influences, individually and in combination.

The bottom line (with both sexes) - expect the unexpected and expect that to change unexpectedly.

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posted July 06, 2017 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrandFireT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[B] My crush is an Aries Mars and it's interesting that you mention the Moon, because he's had a huge crush on this actress whose Venus conjuncts his Moon and trines his Venus and Mars./B]

That's coincidence if I ever saw it. A week ago I discovered on YouTube an old female vocal group that almost unglued me. So obviously at least a few men are fantasy-driven according to their lunar character.

I don't know if this is healthy or not.

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posted July 06, 2017 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrandFireT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I freaking want romance and I link romance strongly with sex, if there is no romance I dont want to have sex with you.

Hypatia, do you realize what you've started with this thread?

Believe it or not, there are a few men around like myself who respect you for your views about romance and sex. Not only that, there are a few who feel the same as you do about the subject.

And believe it or not, there are a few men around who don't want anything to do with one-night stands. Some of us couldn't perform in that situation any more than a lot of women can't.

It might take an unevolved guy a few years and a few affairs to discover that the best sex (and maybe the only sex) is going to happen only when love and romance are there first. However, sooner or later he will “get it” unless he is a very dull boy.

On the other hand, maybe I'm old-fashioned - the one who doesn't get it. Articles in Cosmopolitan and elsewhere would have you believe both women and men everywhere today are detaching and simply living in response to organ calls.

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posted July 06, 2017 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GrandFireT:

The bottom line (with both sexes) - expect the unexpected and expect that to change unexpectedly.


Oh, totally. We are not just one of our Planets, but all of them, including Ascendant and even Asteroids, if you want to count them .

You have a Scorpio Moon, gosh, you really do have all the sexy placements! Do you have any Earth to calm all your Air and Fire?

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posted July 07, 2017 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrandFireT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You have a Scorpio Moon, gosh, you really do have all the sexy placements! Do you have any Earth to calm all your Air and Fire?

If you insist. In all likelihood you know more about astrology than I do.

Yes, I've got earth. Whether or not this calms my Air and Fire is beyond me. Funny you should ask: I loved geology in college.

Tell me more about Mars Cancer women. I watched a couple of YouTube videos on this placement. Sounds complex.

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posted July 07, 2017 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hypatia, do you realize what you've started with this thread?

Believe it or not, there are a few men around like myself who respect you for your views about romance and sex. Not only that, there are a few who feel the same as you do about the subject.

And believe it or not, there are a few men around who don't want anything to do with one-night stands. Some of us couldn't perform in that situation any more than a lot of women can't.

It might take an unevolved guy a few years and a few affairs to discover that the best sex (and maybe the only sex) is going to happen only when love and romance are there first. However, sooner or later he will “get it” unless he is a very dull boy.

On the other hand, maybe I'm old-fashioned - the one who doesn't get it. Articles in Cosmopolitan and elsewhere would have you believe both women and men everywhere today are detaching and simply living in response to organ calls.


Are you a sun in Aquarius?

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posted July 07, 2017 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hypatia, do you realize what you've started with this thread?

Believe it or not, there are a few men around like myself who respect you for your views about romance and sex. Not only that, there are a few who feel the same as you do about the subject.

And believe it or not, there are a few men around who don't want anything to do with one-night stands. Some of us couldn't perform in that situation any more than a lot of women can't.

It might take an unevolved guy a few years and a few affairs to discover that the best sex (and maybe the only sex) is going to happen only when love and romance are there first. However, sooner or later he will “get it” unless he is a very dull boy.

On the other hand, maybe I'm old-fashioned - the one who doesn't get it. Articles in Cosmopolitan and elsewhere would have you believe both women and men everywhere today are detaching and simply living in response to organ calls.


No, that's in response to your Scorpio Moon. You are passionate yes, but a feeler. Meaning you can do no strings attached sex...but it's like cold pizza...not something you'd prefer.

The funny thing is I had said very clearly that a man can sleep with most things...but it's an unbeatable combo when he actually loves having sex (Mars) with you and actually is attached to you (Moon). It seems like the Mars part was the only thing picked up, no one noticed I very distinctly mentied the moon needs MUST be satisfied first. Oh well sigh lol.

Anyway what do you specifically want to know about Cancer Mars? How we think? Go after things? The type of physicality we like? Literally any and all questions you have are fine 🙂

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posted July 08, 2017 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iridia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can think of 2 men (actors) who supposedly have their Ascendants conjunct my Venus. One of them I found good-looking, the other one was gorgeous to me. Interestingly, in the first case the orb is tighter. By the way, ASC trine Venus can be a goodie too. Probably a better option for those who don't wish to have the other person obsess over their looks (if they're to be the Ascendant).

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posted July 08, 2017 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I can think of 2 men (actors) who supposedly have their Ascendants conjunct my Venus. One of them I found good-looking, the other one was gorgeous to me. Interestingly, in the first case the orb is tighter. By the way, ASC trine Venus can be a goodie too. Probably a better option for those who don't wish to have the other person obsess over their looks (if they're to be the Ascendant).

That is not my experience. I have venus conjunct mars in leo and I am not attracted to leo risers. If anything leo risers like me. I do find moon in leo very sexy,there is a strong attraction to moon in leo but as for rising signs I seem to have a thing for earth signs that aspect my sun in virgo opposite moon in pisces. I fell in love with a virgo riser, I am married to a Taurus riser and my lover was a capricorn riser.

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posted July 08, 2017 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrandFireT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Are you a sun in Aquarius?

No Aquarius anywhere in my chart, at least not involving the traditional ten bodies.

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posted July 08, 2017 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrandFireT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GrlyGirl200:

Anyway what do you specifically want to know about Cancer Mars? How we think? Go after things? The type of physicality we like? Literally any and all questions you have are fine 🙂

I'd be interested in reading your responses to all of those questions.

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I have a friend with a cancer mars and she likes men that are on the thicker side physically. She also is attracted to grumpy guys, lol. And men she can take care of. She doesn`t mind a guy that is slightly more on the needier side. But her venus is also in the 12th house scorpio and that placement is known to attract needy people into their lives so might be because of that too, i don`t know. She also finds it attractive and very important when a guy does something nice and romantic for her on special occasions like birthdays, valentine etc, and gets hurt if he forgets or doesn`t make a big deal out of those days. She tends to go in roundabout ways of dealing with things, esp issues she`s having.

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posted July 08, 2017 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GrandFireT:
No Aquarius anywhere in my chart, at least not involving the traditional ten bodies.

Then you must be gemini if you have an air sun with mars in aries.

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posted July 09, 2017 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrandFireT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have a friend with a cancer mars and she likes men that are on the thicker side physically. She also is attracted to grumpy guys, lol. And men she can take care of. She doesn`t mind a guy that is slightly more on the needier side. But her venus is also in the 12th house scorpio and that placement is known to attract needy people into their lives so might be because of that too, i don`t know. She also finds it attractive and very important when a guy does something nice and romantic for her on special occasions like birthdays, valentine etc, and gets hurt if he forgets or doesn`t make a big deal out of those days. She tends to go in roundabout ways of dealing with things, esp issues she`s having.


That's so funny - a woman who likes thick, grumpy men. Your friend shouldn't have any trouble finding plenty of such characters.

Much of what you say about your friend fits my only contact with a Mars Cancer woman. She really digs this one manic depressive guy, and he also has a strange paunch.

Are these Cancer Mars gals aggressive when it comes to men?

What do you mean by "roundabout ways?" Any examples?

What Sun sign is your friend?

Thanks for sharing.

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