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hypatia238
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posted July 03, 2017 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I have venus in leo conjunct mars in leo but have never felt attracted to a leo riser..

Is there other people who have not felt attracted to someone they have this in synastry with??

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posted July 03, 2017 04:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never been the venus conjunct someone's asc but I'm now the ascendant conjunct someone's venus. All I can say so far is that the attraction is massive. I drive him crazy with my Instagram selfies lol and I think he's hot as hell. BUT there's other stuff going on as you know which might factor into that.

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posted July 03, 2017 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EmGem:
I've never been the venus conjunct someone's asc but I'm now the ascendant conjunct someone's venus. All I can say so far is that the attraction is massive. I drive him crazy with my Instagram selfies lol and I think he's hot as hell. BUT there's other stuff going on as you know which might factor into that.

Yes what are your venus to mars aspects? and sun to moon?

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posted July 03, 2017 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
So I have venus in leo conjunct mars in leo but have never felt attracted to a leo riser..

Is there other people who have not felt attracted to someone they have this in synastry with??


I've actually been both. My current SO is the ascendant and I'm Venus, and an ex was Venus and I was the Ascendant (my mars and Sun was also on his Venus/Sun/Mercury so that might have changed things). The funny thing is for both of them I did not and don't have a strong to non existant physical attraction. My current SO never had a strong attraction to me but that stems from him not having Jupiter Mars or Venus and me being black. He loves me (Scorpio Moon) so his attraction followed. The second guy thinks I'm very very attractive but I was never that into him as his Mars in Virgo turned me off. I think my lack of attraction a lot of the time has to do with my Mars Uranus/Jupiter Yod and the fact that attraction to me is literally a crapshoot and happens spontaneously.

I'm super attracted to a man who has his natal Venus in my 1st house Relocation chart (the Asc is the only thing that changed). The funny thing is when he first saw me he thought I was attractive (it was quite obvious as he's a Leo Venus). I noticed his reaction to me was so immediate that I honestly didn't peg him to be Libra Sun with Cancer Moon. I thought he was a Leo Sun and Mercury with Cap Moon and Cancer Venus with Libra Mars Conjunct Pluto. He ended up being a Libra Sun with Cancer Moon Scorpio Mercury Leo Venus and Scorpio Mars. I still haven't figured out his Rising. I will say my poor feelings are a little hurt the attention that I'm not getting. We don't really talk anymore...but he seems to have gone from fun loving and loud to censoring himself and being super quiet.

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posted July 03, 2017 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@hypatia

My mars squares his venus
His sun tightly noviles my moon
And then there's all the other Pluto stuff.
Plus his venus/mars/uranus/moon conjunct my asc/uranus.
If his birth time is what I think it might be then his 8th ruler conjuncts my 5th ruler.

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posted July 03, 2017 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrosaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never experienced my Venus conjunct someones AC. I have had someones Venus conjunct my ac and I worshiped him, we had hardly any favourable aspects also.

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posted July 03, 2017 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
So I have venus in leo conjunct mars in leo but have never felt attracted to a leo riser..

Is there other people who have not felt attracted to someone they have this in synastry with??



I have it in natal but never experienced it with another lady. My Mars is square Venus also. I think I let off extra pheromones.

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posted July 03, 2017 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrandFireT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Had Venus of my Venus/Mars/Pluto GT touch a young woman's Venus ascendant, home of her natal Venus.

You would think that contact might have precipitated action of one sort or another. It didn't.

Possibly the time on her birth record was wrong.

As far as attraction goes, in truth, I was most interested in what most healthy young men are most interested in. As I recall, I got a hug and a nice letter for my feeble efforts.

I don't believe these ascendant contacts are necessarily going to bring on the Fourth of July. Too many other details can mess up the display, or prevent it from ever getting off the ground.

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posted July 03, 2017 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GrandFireT:
Had Venus of my Venus/Mars/Pluto GT touch a young woman's Venus ascendant, home of her natal Venus.

You would think that contact might have precipitated action of one sort or another. It didn't.

Possibly the time on her birth record was wrong.

As far as attraction goes, in truth, I was most interested in what most healthy young men are most interested in. As I recall, I got a hug and a nice letter for my feeble efforts.

I don't believe these ascendant contacts are necessarily going to bring on the Fourth of July. Too many other details can mess up the display, or prevent it from ever getting off the ground.


I agree! The one strong significator for attraction that I have noticed with most men no matter what, is their Mars being personified in a woman. Basically she is strong in his Mars sign or element.

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posted July 03, 2017 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EmGem:
@hypatia

My mars squares his venus
His sun tightly noviles my moon
And then there's all the other Pluto stuff.
Plus his venus/mars/uranus/moon conjunct my asc/uranus.
If his birth time is what I think it might be then his 8th ruler conjuncts my 5th ruler.


Ohhh you have ascendant conjunct uranus!! Bingo! Thanks. He does not just aspect your ascendant, he aspects your uranus too with his stellium.

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posted July 03, 2017 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GrlyGirl200:
I agree! The one strong significator for attraction that I have noticed with most men no matter what, is their Mars being personified in a woman. Basically she is strong in his Mars sign or element.

Like if he has mars in sag and her strongest sign is sag he will feel attracted to her?

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posted July 03, 2017 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Ohhh you have ascendant conjunct uranus!! Bingo! Thanks. He does not just aspect your ascendant, he aspects your uranus too with his stellium.

Yes I forgot to mention that previously perhaps.
Since he is uranian himself I'm hoping this will help us both be ok with this energy. We have stabilizing Saturn too. Trying to find that balance between the excitement and creativity of Uranus and the stability and balance, comfort of Saturn. I hope it's possible.

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posted July 03, 2017 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EmGem:
Yes I forgot to mention that previously perhaps.
Since he is uranian himself I'm hoping this will help us both be ok with this energy. We have stabilizing Saturn too. Trying to find that balance between the excitement and creativity of Uranus and the stability and balance, comfort of Saturn. I hope it's possible.

I definitely think its possible, I truly do.

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posted July 04, 2017 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Like if he has mars in sag and her strongest sign is sag he will feel attracted to her?

Bingo!!! I've seen it FAR too many times for it not be true (with myself and others)...and this is no matter WHAT his other placements may be. I've had this happen to me many many times. I actually think the key to really hooking a man is not hitting his Venus and Moon, but is in hitting his Moon and Mars (Sun is irrelevant I've noticed). That way not only is he attracted to you physically (the type that doesn't ever fade), but he is deeply attached (esp if he is attached via his Moon). My own experience includes:

- A Cancer Mars man with other fire placements (Moon and Venus in Aries/Mercury in Gemini) pretty much was willing to cheat on his gf with me. He actually shyly pursued me and flirted big time and (in his own words)he struggled to not cheat on his gf
- A super Gemini (Gemini Sun/Moon/Venus with Mercury in Cancer) who had his Mars on my Venus thought I was the sexiest thing out there, and once I found out about his gf I ended our relationship. He truly wanted both of us. His gf was a very typical Sag with fire/air placements (a Scorpio Venus...her snooping on him is how I found out about her)...but in true Gemini fashion he needed variety lol
- A double Sag with Venus in Scorpio and Mars in Pisces was strongly attracted to me, and wanted a physical relationship. We dated a bit before we went our separate ways. He ended up dating and marrying a Libra Sun/Sag Moon woman as I did not touch his Moon
- A male friend of mine has a Libra Mars and married a girl who IS NOT at ALL his type, but they have a very very close Conjunction of her Libra Moon to his Mars. He's a double Scorpio...and she's a Gemini with Libra Moon
- The same male friend above who is the double Scorpio strongly desired a friend of ours while in the said relationship with the above Gemini. The girl he desired was a Libra Sun with Libra Mars and Scorpio Venus. They had a thing when him and the Gemini took a break
- An Aquarius man with Taurus Moon had his Venus and Mars in Capricorn Conjunct my Moon. He was strongly attracted to me (and I to him), despite us not having much of anything in common
- An ex Aquarius man with Virgo Moon cheated on me with an Aries Moon girl (Cancer Sun). His Mars was in Aries

Celebrity wise:
- Charlie Sheen and his ex Denise Richards are known for being as thick as thieves. They are truly friends (despite the fact that they click and clash). She is an Aquarius with Scorpio Moon and Sag Mars, he is a Virgo with Sag Moon and Scorpio Mars. His Venus is in Libra...yet time and time again he went for the Scorpio types (he has natal Mars in Scorpio Conjunct Neptune)
- Hugh Grant famously dated Elizabeth Hurley for close to 15 years. He is a Gemini Mars and she is a Gemini Sun/Mercury/Jupiter
- John Mayer loves women who represent his Mars. He has Mars in Cancer, and has once spoken about Cancer Jessica Simpson being "sexual napalm." He has also had "relationships" with other heavily water women. This includes: Cancer Sun Minka Kelly, Pisces Sun Jennifer Love Hewitt (Your Body is a Wonderland was written about her), Scorpio Sun Katy Perry, Cancer Moon and Scorpio Mars Taylor Swift, and finally Scorpio Mars Jennifer Aniston
- Swizz Beatz left his (I believe) pregnant wife for Libra Moon and Saturn Alicia Keyes. His Mars is in Libra. His Venus is in Scorpio and she does not have anything in that. His Moon is her Sun

Anyway, I could go on and on lol.

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posted July 04, 2017 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GrlyGirl200:
Bingo!!! I've seen it FAR too many times for it to not be true (with myself and others)...and this is no matter WHAT his other placements may be. I've had this happen to me many many times. I actually think the key to really hooking a man is not hitting his Venus and Moon, but is in hitting his Moon and Mars (Sun is irrelevant I've noticed). That way not only is he attracted to you physically (the type that doesn't ever fade), but he is deeply attached (esp if he is attached via his Moon).

Thanks so much for sharing this very valuable observation you have made. This is the stuff why I value this site, your experience based on multiple observations. I believe you are unto something here, I love it.

Add to your data my Ex and I:

I felt pulled towards him like a magnet, he has mars in Sag and my strongest sign is Sag and my strongest planet is Neptune in Sag which conjuncts his Mars, further his DC is in Pisces conjunct my Moon in pisces which also conjuncts his moon in pisces. I dont think either of us will ever truly stop loving each other and attraction does not fade. We dont talk but I feel it, I know he has never stopped caring.


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posted July 04, 2017 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@hypatia, thank you that makes me feel positive about it

Girly, are you saying men are attracted to their mars?!

My current interest has Scorpio mars conjunct his Scorpio moon.

I'm Scorpio asc, sun/merc in the 8th. But I ALSO have mars conjunct moon natally. So mirroring always helps too. Also if his birth time is correct he has mars in his 4th. I have venus in cancer in my 9th. His dsc is sag.
Anyway...

You may be onto something.

The guy before him had his mars in Gemini conjunct my sun/mercy in Gemini. He is still super attracted to me. His ex before me was a Gemini sun/mercy too!

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posted July 04, 2017 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EmGem:
@hypatia, thank you that makes me feel positive about it

Girly, are you saying men are attracted to their mars?!

My current interest has Scorpio mars conjunct his Scorpio moon.

I'm Scorpio asc, sun/merc in the 8th. But I ALSO have mars conjunct moon natally. So mirroring always helps too. Also if his birth time is correct he has mars in his 4th. I have venus in cancer in my 9th. His dsc is sag.
Anyway...

You may be onto something.

The guy before him had his mars in Gemini conjunct my sun/mercy in Gemini. He is still super attracted to me. His ex before me was a Gemini sun/mercy too!


That is exactly what I am saying. I do think men are attracted to their Mars even more than we or them want to realize. I think this is ESP true if they have a strong Mars or have Martian placements (like Scorpio or Sag placements). I've actually experienced a very emotional friendship with a guy who had his Moon and Venus (his Sun and Mercury touched nicely as well) nicely touched by me with his Mars left out. He was a Cancer Moon and Pisces Venus with Sag Mars. His Moon touched my Mars-Sun directly, so he was attracted to me (emotionally...Cancer Moon) but time and time again he would take a break and date an intense Leo, Aries, or Gemini chick who touched his Mars...break up with them and then claim he missed me (his Venus and Mars Square). I didn't have anything that touched his Mars...(even negative aspects) besides a Trine from my Mercury to his Mars.

EmGem that sounds about right. I have talked about men esp needing their Moon or Moon ruler touched for him to truly get attached to you so if you indeed touch his Scorpio Mars in some way (because it's a Scorpio Mars and responds to energy I would say a person would need harsh aspects...Square/Opp/Conjunction because they thrive off all energy as opposed to a Pisces Mars) that means you touch his Moon ruler. The only example I have seen that doesn't fit is in terms of a Cancer Moon. I think this Moon needs to be touched directly (I think minus harsh is good for this Moon) and not via Moon Ruler because the Moon ruler is the Moon lol.

Other than that I'm not sure how a Scorpio Mars will manifest. I would think his tie to his Moon would mean if you get him to feel...he will strongly desire you and you only. Not the other way around as Scorpio can separate sex and love.

You're a Scorpio type, I'm flummoxed by Scorpio Mars at the moment. The Libra dude I'm really into has his Mars in Scorpio, and at some point he went from being a loud attention seeking show off Leo Venus to being quiet. He barely peeps when I'm around (I've tried my best to put a mental block up). The funny thing is one time he was randomly friendly with a woman I talk to. He actually introduced her to someone close by and introduced her like...oh she's engaged too. I walked into the room when they were talking before he introduced her to the other person who just walked in. I figured it had nothing to do with me, but he's a Scorpio Mercury so who knows.

He definitively knows that if he were single I'd want something to happen with us (I told him this...but he knew I liked him), and right after I promptly begun ignoring him. Not to play games, he's getting married and I don't want my conduct to be anymore inappropriate than it has been. I wish I knew how he responded to hearing me say that (he maybe didn't take it too seriously or care much...I have a Leo Mercury Square his Scorpio Mercury). And I hope he was able to pick up that I meant emotionally not just sexually...but I think he knows how I feel, I also think he can strongly feel me.

I got off on a tangent lol, but just blah about the whole thing.

EmGem is this the same guy you had the Pluto composite and synatstry with?

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posted July 04, 2017 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ex who has mars in sag has mars out of bounds conjunct my sun/moon midpoint too in addition to it conjuncting my Neptune 5H ruler and squaring my sun opposite moon.

Why is mars in sag a martian mars?

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posted July 04, 2017 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It can make sense that a guy is attracted to their moon and mars more than venus. Venus perhaps is more like eye candy while mars is what gets you aroused. After all when a woman triggers a men's mars it stirs them into ACTION and guys think with their d*ck after all (jk) and the moon like you said is what gets you attached so it is what will make the difference between someone you want to be with in a relationship and a one night stand.

I will add Psyche is more beautiful than Venus! Further Psyche is beautiful inside and out so a guy activating a women's Psyche may have a stronger attraction effect than Venus:

My husband's Mars conjuncts my Psyche tightly.

My ex Sun conjuncts my Psyche exact.

My dad's Mars trine's exact my mother's Psyche (I have this with two big crushes I have had too). My grandparents have this as well. Both my parents and grandparents have nice marriages.

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posted July 04, 2017 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Mars in man is for attraction, and Venus is for love.
Mars is what we are sexually attracted to, Venus is what we love and Moon is what is emotionally appealing to us.

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posted July 04, 2017 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think Mars in man is for attraction, and Venus is for love.
Mars is what we are sexually attracted to, Venus is what we love and Moon is what is emotionally appealing to us.

Yes that is general knowledge but she has collected data and has made observations that mars and moon for men over ride venus. Moon is our emotional needs and what makes us feel safe and like she said emotional attachment and mars like you said sexual attraction so I can see why this two may be powerful triggers for men. I feel Psyche is a super venus and also may be a bigger trigger than venus itself. When Psyche gets activated in synastry you find the person beautiful inside and out and you connect in a soul level.

Neptune been the higher octave of venus may be a bigger trigger than venus too and poseidon h47 or the asteroid.

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posted July 04, 2017 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrandFireT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Male Mars Aires reporting in.

Not sure I've understood everything posted here. Nonetheless, here is one additional case history which supports at least some of what's been said.

Generally speaking Aires-strong woman do not capture my attention, nor do I capture theirs.

As I understand the mechanics, Aires always has the potential to repel, wherever it takes up residence. A couple of Aires Venus gals have driven by: however, in that sign the attractions tend to be here-today, gone-tomorrow.

I'm not familiar with any Aires Moon women, so I'll remain curious and open-mined about that possibility.

Hits on my natal Moon (Scorpio), on the other hand, have shown promise. As a matter of fact, without considering my lunar landscape, I can find no explanation whatsoever for the women who have made friendly visitations, not always via the conjunction.

If not moon dust, what else would a Mars Cancer girl be prospecting for in an otherwise Air/Fire environment?

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posted July 04, 2017 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Grly, yep this is the same guy! I touch both his moon directly AND my Pluto conjuncts his moon ruler lol. Good signs. Yes mars in Scorpio can be interesting and I imagine esp with a fiery venus in the mix hmmmm. Scorpio mars do tend to go suddenly quiet as far as I've experienced anyway. It's frustrating lol.

Hypatia, I didn't know that about psyche! Mine conjuncts his moon 1* (if birth time is correct), his mars exact and Uranus 3*.
Surely Valentine is more venus-like than psyche tho?! His conjuncts my moon exact. Ok now I'm just showing off 😝

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posted July 04, 2017 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in Aries is so hot!

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posted July 05, 2017 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My ex who has mars in sag has mars out of bounds conjunct my sun/moon midpoint too in addition to it conjuncting my Neptune 5H ruler and squaring my sun opposite moon.

Why is mars in sag a martian mars?


I wouldn't consider a Sag Mars a Martian Mars per se, but in general a Fire Mars is a strong passionate and DESIRE filled Mars (I would say the least likely to do one night stands is Leo Mars...they love romance and the like). The funny thing I've noticed with most Sag Mars people is they have a love for new experiences, especially sexually.

The above Cancer Moon/Pisces Sun/Mercury/Venus with Virgo Asc I mentioned loved sex parties. And to this day has been very clear about not wanting to be reigned in. His chart has zero Aquarius and/or Uranus aspects. I know two other Sag Mars individuals (one female, another male) who are very promiscuous and they have all strong Water and/or Earth. The second male was in a relationship with a very sweet Leo and badly expressed a desire to open his relationship up so he could experience other girls. I would say that this Mars has a desire to experience. I wouldn't say cheat, because Sag as a sign is about honesty and integrity. But it is about experience. Two famous porn stars that off the bat I know got into porn due to the fact that they liked sex (...and not in the Scorpio way...they had it alot), and figured why not get paid to do something I love. One is Jayden James, who was on her way to becoming a lawyer and decided to do porn. The other is James Deen. A few celebrity examples of Sag Mars and having been with a lot of people are off the bat Jennifer Lopez and Kim Kardashian. Both have Sag Mars with a Libra/Virgo influence. Two male celebs with Sag Mars include Warren Beatty, and Jack Nicholson. The funny thing is that the famous "Bad Boy Drive" in old Hollywood featured the two above actors, in addition to Marlon Brando and Dennis Hopper. The last two actors had Sag Asc.

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