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Lerena
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posted March 22, 2018 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
With Moon sextile Saturn is it easier to handle? And does the Saturn person tend to cater to the Moon person?
I would say no. My boyfriend's Saturn is trine my Moon in our synastry and he is the boss for the most part. He'd probably deny this, but we have to do stuff when he wants to do them and I can't ask when he'll be available for X or Y without him feeling pressured. It may have something to do with my Saturn making a semi-sextile to his Moon. Maybe he feels that or something. I'm normally able to to step back and let him take charge. He has complained about me just doing whatever he says though. It's confusing, Overall, I'm not really the dominant type and I'm not exactly opposed to doing things with him so I don't see why it has been an issue before.

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posted March 22, 2018 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 8ofHearts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
I never would have thought of it when young, but as I aged, I was surprised how many women get turned on to be submissive. Even if they are tough and have high powered positions. I guess it helps them relieve stress. Of course, the opposite occurs also. LOL

HAHAHAHA - yep.
Female energy (not always) but typically is ultimately wanting the male energy to be stronger and more dominant so they can relax. As long as there's not a bunch of harsh interference, even a high-powered female will be more willing to take direction from a male making strong dominant Saturn connections to them.
Now, if you've got a wild guy that has a hard time settling down, it is no doubt going to be a gal making hard Saturn aspects to him that's going to "settle him down" and make an impact. She may or may not enjoy "being boss" over time. Ideally, you want it in both direction for mutual sense of power/responsibility. ;}

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posted March 22, 2018 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 8ofHearts:
HAHAHAHA - yep.
Female energy (not always) but typically is ultimately wanting the male energy to be stronger and more dominant so they can relax. As long as there's not a bunch of harsh interference, even a high-powered female will be more willing to take direction from a male making strong dominant Saturn connections to them.
Now, if you've got a wild guy that has a hard time settling down, it is no doubt going to be a gal making hard Saturn aspects to him that's going to "settle him down" and make an impact. She may or may not enjoy "being boss" over time. Ideally, you want it in both direction for mutual sense of power/responsibility. ;}

You are not going to ride my back. LOLOLOLOL.

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posted March 22, 2018 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 8ofHearts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
You are not going to ride my back. LOLOLOLOL.

Hehehehe

Now where's that Saturn?? ;}

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posted March 22, 2018 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 8ofHearts:
Hehehehe

Now where's that Saturn?? ;}


Capricorn 25.

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posted March 22, 2018 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn and Moon...Emotional substitute for a father: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_9hfHvQSNo

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posted March 22, 2018 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
Saturn and Moon...Emotional substitute for a father: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_9hfHvQSNo

Substitute for a father really? So what if it's the woman s Saturn on the guys moon?

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posted March 22, 2018 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 8ofHearts:
Agreed. Saturn is usually boss. Sextile is definitely easier to handle but not nearly as sticky. If you have soft aspects, you need a lot more of them & to significant planets typically to create the same impact of a hard aspect.
The persons Saturn also parallels my Moon which is basically like a conjunction. So I'm guessing that would make the sextile stronger.

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posted March 22, 2018 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Substitute for a father really? So what if it's the woman s Saturn on the guys moon?

Depends on the guy's Saturn. Could be a double whammy. I had that with a lady before. But my Saturn was stronger. She was submissive to me even though she was the boss of others.

My Saturn is very strong.

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posted March 22, 2018 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And my Moon and their Saturn are both in the same signs. There Saturn also trines my Mercury.

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posted March 22, 2018 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
Depends on the guy's Saturn. Could be a double whammy. I had that with a lady before. But my Saturn was stronger. She was submissive to me even though she was the boss of others.

My Saturn is very strong.


I mean if it's only the womans Saturn that is in aspect to the man's personal planets. But the guys Saturn doesn't aspect her personal planets.

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posted March 22, 2018 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 8ofHearts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by 8ofHearts:
[b] Agreed. Saturn is usually boss. Sextile is definitely easier to handle but not nearly as sticky. If you have soft aspects, you need a lot more of them & to significant planets typically to create the same impact of a hard aspect.

The persons Saturn also parallels my Moon which is basically like a conjunction. So I'm guessing that would make the sextile stronger.[/B][/QUOTE]

yep. parallel will make it stronger. ;}

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posted March 22, 2018 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I mean if it's only the womans Saturn that is in aspect to the man's personal planets. But the guys Saturn doesn't aspect her personal planets.

The woman would likely be dominant. There are likely many men that like to be dominated. Sun comes into play also though.

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posted March 22, 2018 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If a person has Sun opposition Saturn in their natal chart. And their Saturn aspects my Moon in synastry there might be issues?

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posted March 22, 2018 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
If a person has Sun opposition Saturn in their natal chart. And their Saturn aspects my Moon in synastry there might be issues?

No.

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posted March 23, 2018 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 8ofHearts:
HAHAHAHA - yep.
Female energy (not always) but typically is ultimately wanting the male energy to be stronger and more dominant so they can relax. As long as there's not a bunch of harsh interference, even a high-powered female will be more willing to take direction from a male making strong dominant Saturn connections to them.
Now, if you've got a wild guy that has a hard time settling down, it is no doubt going to be a gal making hard Saturn aspects to him that's going to "settle him down" and make an impact. She may or may not enjoy "being boss" over time. Ideally, you want it in both direction for mutual sense of power/responsibility. ;}

What if it's the other way around? A guy who may have issues settling down. His Saturn aspects the woman planets? He may not like feeling responsible for her etc.

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posted March 23, 2018 05:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 8ofHearts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
What if it's the other way around? A guy who may have issues settling down. His Saturn aspects the woman planets? He may not like feeling responsible for her etc.

I actually had this happen. I was so in love with him. His Saturn conj my Mars in 8th, opp my Moon, inconjunct my Sun & Pluto & square my Jupiter. (basically aspecting all my "male" planets & my Moon too.)
My Saturn in his 9th, sextile his ASC, loosely opp his Mars, square his Sun/Moon MP & Uranus and our Saturns were sextile. His chart was an almost exact combination between my Mom & Dad's - our synastry had some of the same aspects and our chart configurations/aspects were eerily similar.

We had a lot of jumpy Uranus in Synastry (His Uranus & Sun/Moon MP conj my Sun/ASC/Pluto) and Composite so even though there was a big love stellium (SU/ME/MO/VE), Uranus was smack dab in the middle of it. Sun was inconjunct to Mars & Mars also loosely squared Saturn & Jupiter in the composite w/ JU on IC and Saturn on MC, Mars near DESC. He was always running away and coming back over nearly 2 years. He had a much stronger hold on me than I did over him. But looking at the composite, It was just never going to be steady enough to work out & he is not great relationship material anyway - he avoids deep connection & responsibility to everyone. Fear, fear, fear. He had Saturn in Taurus, would glorify the past & talk about the one that got away 25 years previously which of course hurt. He never let more than about 10 days to 2 weeks go by without checking up on me but he wouldn't make a commitment & he was easily resentful to be asked to help. A lot of crazy things happened to me over that time period and he wasn't there for me. I'm a giver and a lover so needless to say, this does not work for me!! Much as I loved that boy, I finally cut the cord & blocked him. Life is too damn short!

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posted March 23, 2018 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@8ofHearts thanks for sharing my Saturn does conjunct his Moon though it's a 9'10 degree orb. But my Saturn also makes an opposition to his Sun which is a tight orb under 1 degree. He has that in his natal chart though as well. So we both have Moon/Saturn aspects both ways in synastry. But I guess my Saturn just wouldn't be as strong. And both are Saturn is in Sag he just has Moon in Sag and I have Moon in Aquarius. So I guess some things are kind of similar.

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posted March 23, 2018 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 8ofHearts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ChildofVenus - Not sure what's happening or what answer you're looking for (I've seen a few different threads started on Saturn/Moon) but even with Saturn, you can't just look at one aspect. You have to consider the individual charts to determine relationship capacity & signature, the synastry & house placement - (Are 5th, 7th & 8th houses or rulers mutually activated if it's romantic? Are chart rulers/angles contacting each other? are the lunar nodes being activated?) And then how they combine together in composite or Davison to get a final answer.

Moon conj Saturn mutually in synastry and in composite typically describes mutual loyalty & devotion. But it can be a little heavy - particularly on the female in the relationship. As the moon (female) I tend to gravitate towards composites that have good aspects to moon like Sun/Moon - Moon/Venus with supportive aspects to Jupiter & Saturn. As described above, I had a lot of great aspects with someone, tons of Saturn and even a love stellium but we also had lots of disruptive Uranian & Mars/Saturn elements and his love capacity was just not very good to start with. So...even Saturn aspects are not a forever guarantee.

In contrast, my best friend from college has Moon conj Saturn in composite with her husband. They met the first day of college when we were 18 and became best friends day 1. They ate lunch together every single day besides being with other people romantically all 4 years & most of us knew or hoped they would eventually end up together. Their devotion and loyalty was just evident but I think they met so early, they needed to explore other things first. They settled down in their mid 20s and have been married ever since and will be forever. They actually have a very good/strong composite together.

She was more ready to settle down with him earlier (he eventually came around) and she is actually the bigger breadwinner of the family so the relationship may weigh heavier on her sometimes. (Moon conj Saturn.)

His Saturn is conj her Sun (chart ruler),squares her Mars and makes soft aspects to her Moon/ASC (her Saturn is conj her own Venus/Mercury so she's slightly Saturnian in nature.) Her Saturn opposes his Mars, trines his Sun & Uranus.

In composite they have:
Stellium in 1st Eros/Moon/Saturn/Vesta
Pluto in 5th
Neptune/Ceres/Juno/ in 7th
Jupiter conj Mars in 9th
Sappho/Venus/Sun/Chiron all in tight conj in 11th & opposing Uranus in 6th
Mercury a little farther along in 12th also opposing Uranus

Comp Moon = her natal Sun/his Saturn
Sun = his natal Moon sign/her Chiron
Mars/Jupiter conjunction = his natal Sun/Venus/their Jupiter
Both of their natal Saturns and composite charts are activated back & forth so it ties back to them very strongly.

They are married 20 years by now I think. Devoted couple, intellectuals, love to travel & do artsy things together. Sun/Venus/Merc/Chiron opp Uranus - she travels a lot for work and they're a bit unconventional in that she is the corporate breadwinner & they never wanted children but...they like it that way. She has Sun/Venus trine Uranus and he is Aquarius Sun with Venus in Aquarius. ;}

My parents have been together 60 years since age 15!!! They have:
Juno/Mercury/Sun conj in 1st opposite Mars in 7th squaring Moon in 4th - T-square.
Venus in 3rd opposing Saturn/Lilith in 8th & Uranus in 9th. Jupiter in 9th & Pluto in 10th/11th make nice supportive aspects to everything. They have tons of crazy asteroids and Saturn between them. They love each other dearly but do not share the same taste/preference in anything! lol.

Again, composite ties back to natals
Sun/Juno/Mercury in 1st = my Dad's Venus
Moon = My Mom's Venus
Mars = both their Mars - they have it in same sign 12' apart.
North nodes also conjunct (they're 2 months apart.)

So...Saturn can make a great relationship last but it can also drag out a hurtful or unsatisfying situation that you probably should call time on earlier.

Below are some videos from astrologer Jewel Mayberry who specializes in relationship astrology. She has tons of free synastry videos & does consults (natal & relationship.)

Moon sextile/trine Saturn synastry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4-vVra9ABA

Moon opposite Saturn synastry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwGpqJDZFWg

COMPOSITE Moon conj Saturn (not seeing the individual synastry video but she does address some of that in this one.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHdG6ZR43Do

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posted May 19, 2021 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IV4Four     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about if Saturn and the Moon are in Capricorn for both partners?

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posted May 30, 2021 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 31, 2021 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What about if Saturn and the Moon are in Capricorn for both partners?

I'm wondering the same thing! I also have this in synastry with someone

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I believe the union of Saturn and Moon is a long-lasting and a very committed one. The Saturn person doesn't say loving words as it has difficulty in expressing emotions. The Moon can soothe the Saturn's hesitant heart and release him from this emotional unexpressed burden. Don't worry if the Saturn person never says anything. Your love should be enough for both of you.

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posted June 02, 2021 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon-Saturn can be found in a lot of long-term relationships and no, Moon square Saturn isn't that bad. Saturn doesn't think of Moon as a baby or disregard their emotions. In fact, Saturn is very protective of Moon and Moon knows they can rely on Saturn anytime. Saturn helps Moon to rationalise their decisions instead of being swayed by emotions. It is not true that Saturn is cold.

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