posted July 16, 2018 11:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:

Thats why I for ex never get angry if I don't hear anything from my guy friends or crush during summer breaks etc for months. Because I really like giving space!

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posted July 16, 2018 11:23 AM            

But ok my last attemt and I will keep it as bare as possible!
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So yes we have his moon in my 8th on my venus-jupieter and n.node. And I have my moon Exactly smack on his IC angle!
Also his chiron on my Moon.

We became close very fast. He is my fav type, strong muscular physique, gymmer, but also very gentle nature. He is strong but one does not get scared by that. Very open friendly face that looks so vulnurable even though he has a manly man facial features. He did charm me with his libra venus. And I guess he liked the aries in me or whatever. I know his type is: Intellectual strong women. Warm but also saturnian steady and serious! He really likes dependable people as do I.

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I really liked this vulnurable energy in him. And in the beginning when he would be a bit distant, wary sometimes, I would not mind. I could see it was his saturn-moon. I too have saturn moon so I was ok. He would always make sure to be extra kind the day after when I did not cause a scene or sulk, just smile a sad smile and go away. That always got to him, like always! He could not stand seing me walking away smiling but look sad and wounded.

Later I also learned, he hates hates people who has expectations and wants to know where we stand etc. He will see if you wait for an apology and that will make him very defensive (mars-neptune- uranian etc).

I could not get mad at him at all. I always felt, he does not wanna play games and he apreciates me not playing games or not making a scene and pressuring him about things.

<We have always been comfy in each others company though. It always felt like I knew him somehow. There is something cancerian vulnerability in him that I was drawn in by. ANd we always had easy time talking about stuff. We also liked sitting all silent and just be. I think that is my moon on his IC. and our composte Sun in Cancer. And his moon in his 1th. Also he is so openminded, uranian as he is, he will never judge, openly atleast.

He either could be all curious and talkative libra venus. Or a bit distant and very serious, (capri maars). When I think about it, his energy is flowy and very easy going when we are in agroup setting or when he is super happy. Other then that, when we are alone, his energy is so weird. I read uranian people functions best in groups, and are weird in one on one interactions. Was true with him anyway.. Hard to describe.

To keep it short, our "honey moon phase" was so great, it begun with an uranian spark suddenly, then slowly but steady closeness, then it got low energy and I felt he was struggling, like he was not sure if he should give me closeness or back away a bit. I did give him lots of space and it worked great that aswell. He seemed to believe I was shy. I just did not wanna seem desperate and him to show he really wanted me in his life as a friend. That went well too during autumn, he would always text me, and if I wrote "I don't wanna disturb you when you are working etc" he would ensure me "You never disturb!".

It was all so great, even though I understood we would not have that "magical uranian spark" again, I just wanted to be an undisposible friend to him.

Everything changed during the eclipse at februari, and since then he has showed me his darkest parts. It turns, he is super uranian, and he is very very moody. I guess he was always bubbly and happy go lucky before when I just met him, because of me! And this moodyness, is his inner real self that now started to show!

posted July 16, 2018 11:25 AM            

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Also his moon in my 8th, is, he reflects his moon on my 8th house. Its not like the sun. Sun is a light that shines mercilessly. While moon does not have its own light, so my intrepretation is, the moon person "collects" ligt from my 8th house and reflects its back to me aswell as taking the light it collects to itself, and mirrors back the enrgy like a reflector to himself and I! Do I make a sense?
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At the end of this May, I started to get really angry and disappointed in him. Because thise were our last moments, I just wanted to have nice moments and memories with him, and it feels like, he was so dumb or worse unsensetive and uncaring about that. He destroyed it all, as if he did wanna make me dislike him so I would leave him or something. I don't know but he was moody as fudge and showed weird jelousy.

Because we have been working on a project, him, I and our mutual friend whom I had other problems with, we were under lots of pressure. And I started to be demanding!

I resolved my problems with F, turns out F really likes me, but had a hard time expressing it, also he saw how close my crush and I were, and I was not respectful of F and too harsh.

And I feel like my crush then got angry and disappointed in me, when F and I calmed down and started being all friendly. I don't not know why he was so angry, I mean F is not a my type at all, I see him just as a brother.

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I just know that this guy has a huge ego (leo sun) that he has been able to hide so well thanks to his saturn. And that he is aquarius rising and uranus is the strongest in his chart. He acted so unpredictable and moody at the end I still think "Wtf was his problem?!".

I don't know if he will gonna make it up to me when we meet again August. But it will not be the same, because we will write our essays, alone.

I forgive him anyway, and I miss him very much. Though I'm still disappointed in his unsenstive ways.

He did give me a very warm and nice Leo hug, strooking my back with his strong hand and all, when we were saying bye before summer. break. And he did text me for a long chat 2 weeks later. I did take a good farawell, so he would unistakingly understand, I won't text him during summer and not expecting him to do it either. I pharased it so it really looked like I was saying bye for good or something haha.
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We also have Saturn-Uranus double whammy in synastry (trine n sextile) I guess that has functioned as a glue to hold os together during our hard times aswell.

Both our composite and Davison has lots of Scorpio/pluto energies. Comp Moon Oppo pluto.
Davison Moon in scorpio conj Pluto. And sun in both charts trine/sext Pluto!

I mean, come on!? As if I dont have enough of this energy?!

posted July 16, 2018 11:44 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:

That is such a beautiful way to put it. Perfect metaphor truly.

I should mention that in Davison our Chart Ruler is the MOON which falls in our 8th house but we have Moon in AQUARIUS hence why I keep talking about this concept of "possessing him freely" when I talk about him/us. There is this "you are mine" but you are "free" dichotomy playing out in our relationship which I feel our Davison chart ruler moon in Aquarius in the 8th really explains. We also have Davison Juno in Aquarius at 29 degrees.

I have an open mind about us but I also want him to be mine and free at the same time . Like he can be with other people from time to time if he feels he needs that but I want to have his heart and soul.

Its such an interesting Davison placement

One negative side effect of this Moon in Aquarius in the 8th is that Moon in the 8th wants to feel secure but Moon in Aquarius has this erratic feeling to it that feels like it can end at any moment yet bec our chart ruler is in the 8th forming a tsquare with venus opposite pluto in scorpio in the 5th this is a pretty binding placement and will probably last even if it feels like the rug can get pulled under you at any moment.

On a positive note this feeling makes me value us more and appreciate each moment I have with him.

I would think Davison moon in the 8th in cancer or scorpio would be very possessive.

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Haha right? Bird horse, all the same, wild and free is key. I also see my plutonic energies like a wild horse I'm riding on the back off. If I kep too short reins it will freak out and act out hurting us both. If I keep too long reins it will be too wild again. I have to find a balance, not too short, not too long. Or better, a way to keep my horse (pluto) all rein free and we can both trust each other and sync.

Hypatia that most be the most weird energy ever haha! You know what, both you and I are in that type of relationships right now!

In your case, you master it well, as its your composite/davison.

In my case I'm plutonian with a streak of uranian. He is super uranian, with not pluto at all! (his progressed venus is in scorpio/pluto though).

I can grasp what you mean, by tha aqua moon in 8th. And I'm so happy you are able to cope well with it and master it so well!

Read this about aquarius and scorpio... two diferent energies, who actually completes each other!
http://www.astrology-zodiac-signs.com/compatibility/aquarius-scorpio/

posted July 16, 2018 11:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
OMG do you know how many times I rewrote this post?! 5 times! 5 fricking times! The first I felt, maybe its too long even though its not too many details. Second one I tried to keep it short, but it did get out of control, again and again! I blame my gemini stellium and pluto inconj my mars haha) Nope I can't do this, I just can't hold the reins in!

But ok my last attempt and I will keep it as bare as possible!

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posted July 16, 2018 02:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
Should I post em?

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Sure sweetheart. Perhaps if you want start a new thread so that we can get feedback from others too and post your synastry, davison and composite. Include the whole chart not just the circle but also the bottom part that shows the placements with the degrees ect...

posted July 16, 2018 02:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:

Haha right? Bird horse, all the same, wild and free is key. I also see my plutonic energies like a wild horse I'm riding on the back off. If I kep too short reins it will freak out and act out hurting us both. If I keep too long reins it will be too wild again. I have to find a balance, not too short, not too long. Or better, a way to keep my horse (pluto) all rein free and we can both trust each other and sync.

Hypatia that most be the most weird energy ever haha! You know what, both you and I are in that type of relationships right now!

In your case, you master it well, as its your composite/davison.

In my case I'm plutonian with a streak of uranian. He is super uranian, with not pluto at all! (his progressed venus is in scorpio/pluto though).

I can grasp what you mean, by tha aqua moon in 8th. And I'm so happy you are able to cope well with it and master it so well!

Read this about aquarius and scorpio... two diferent energies, who actually completes each other!
http://www.astrology-zodiac-signs.com/compatibility/aquarius-scorpio/

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Great metaphor again, I love people that are good with visual metaphors, I find them so creative.

Girl I am trying to master it lol, I am trying my best hahaha

"If love happens between them, the most typical scenario is for Scorpio to fall into an obsessive mess of feelings towards their uninterested Aquarius partner. It takes a lot of work and commitment to reach the emotional core of Aquarius, and it is impossible to get there without spontaneity and trust. Scorpio can be spontaneous in situations that are free of emotions, but will rarely let their love for someone be a part of a maybe-yes-maybe-no swing controlled by their partner.

Aquarius will rarely tolerate or be with someone who tries to make them be more stable and down to earth, or anyone who quenches their desire to be free. As soon as they feel obligated to do anything, they will start pulling away and any emotion that might have been developing will suddenly be covered by the fear of commitment and the rut of everyday life.

If they want to reach emotional balance, Scorpio has to be untied, realize that their partner will never belong to them and that they are free to leave anytime. They will have to understand that this relationship might end tomorrow and there is nothing they can do about it but accept it. On the other hand, Aquarius will have to confront their emotional depth and be ready to make certain changes in their approach to romantic relationships, so they can steadily feel understand Scorpio’s emotional nature."

posted July 16, 2018 02:17 PM            

The fact is they are both in a way outcasts and rebels. While Scorpio represents all of our emotions we don’t want to deal with, Aquarius represents the way of thinking most of us are not ready for. It is best to look at them as announcers of change, for this is exactly what they will bring into each other’s lives."

"As squaring signs, they should have a very troublesome contact, but the sign of Scorpio exalts the ruler of Aquarius, Uranus. These signs combined represent the ultimate sexual freedom, a place with no restrictions or taboos."

posted July 17, 2018 10:40 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Sure sweetheart. Perhaps if you want start a new thread so that we can get feedback from others too and post your synastry, davison and composite. Include the whole chart not just the circle but also the bottom part that shows the placements with the degrees ect...

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I did once last autumn! Dear Todd and MahaKali and some more did look at it and gave good interpretations. BUT I haf his birth time wrong back then,. I have now made him find his birth certificate so I have a perfectly certain birth time and Asc. It does change some important things.

I may start a new thread then. My question then, was about the connection I felt. The moon on Ic, the moon in 8th etc were not in the picture back then bc of wrong birth time so..

posted July 17, 2018 10:46 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Great metaphor again, I love people that are good with visual metaphors, I find them so creative.

Girl I am trying to master it lol, I am trying my best hahaha

"If love happens between them, the most typical scenario is for Scorpio to fall into an obsessive mess of feelings towards their uninterested Aquarius partner. It takes a lot of work and commitment to reach the emotional core of Aquarius, and it is impossible to get there without spontaneity and trust. Scorpio can be spontaneous in situations that are free of emotions, but will rarely let their love for someone be a part of a maybe-yes-maybe-no swing controlled by their partner.

Aquarius will rarely tolerate or be with someone who tries to make them be more stable and down to earth, or anyone who quenches their desire to be free. As soon as they feel obligated to do anything, they will start pulling away and any emotion that might have been developing will suddenly be covered by the fear of commitment and the rut of everyday life.

If they want to reach emotional balance, Scorpio has to be untied, realize that their partner will never belong to them and that they are free to leave anytime. They will have to understand that this relationship might end tomorrow and there is nothing they can do about it but accept it. On the other hand, Aquarius will have to confront their emotional depth and be ready to make certain changes in their approach to romantic relationships, so they can steadily feel understand Scorpio’s emotional nature."

Thank you for that link! Very good info.

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Aww thank you! I'm such a big fan of metaphors! I have all kind of metaphors running around in my mind when I try to understand feelings, reactions etc. My mind is a weird dream landscape for sure haha (neptune to sun, venus and mercury).

Yes I was so excited about that site and the info I found! One always gets so happy when finding such insightful information!

I'm happy you found it of use aswell <3

posted July 17, 2018 11:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:

Now I'm more curious about, why he acted so weird but well thats maybe not astrology material :/

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posted July 17, 2018 11:39 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
That is natal chart. They said to first just look at someone's natal before even doing the synastry.

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posted July 17, 2018 11:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
Hmm yes I know, but more like, I wonder about what I triggered in him by my actions, but yes natal and synastry works simultaneously in those cases aswell :/

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If you lived in Colorado we would so hang out and talk about boys, you and I love talking about our love life hahaha

You know I think maybe him seeing you getting close to his friend did something in him, brought to the surface insecurities and made him shut down and distance himself.....even though you have zero interest in his friend.

posted July 18, 2018 02:36 PM            

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Originally posted by lhanze:
does anybody have experience of living together, long term, with synastry moon in the 8th?

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posted July 20, 2018 03:59 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
If you lived in Colorado we would so hang out and talk about boys, you and I love talking about our love life hahaha

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posted July 20, 2018 04:12 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:

You know I think maybe him seeing you getting close to his friend did something in him, brought to the surface insecurities and made him shut down and distance himself.....even though you have zero interest in his friend.

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I felt like that sometimes aswell, that I somehow did hurt him and disappointed him, maybe he thought I was unpredictable, but he was the one being that! Projection.

I held a journal, I'm have an journaling ocd condition! I have written down every interactions we had. Both like as a "journal" and to be able to "analyze" things I may have missed. To see patterns etc.

Its stupid. I read a therapist saying how people come to him to talk about relationships that has ended, and how they talk about this ex-partner etc. How they with the help of the therapist tryes to "understand" the ex, why he did this and that, and what it could mean etc. And the therapist is saying, that he is listening, coming with a few imputs, waiting until the client starts to stop dwell on the ex and starts to focus in herself. Because as he states; Its impossible to know what the other one was thinking and feeling. You can guess, but you cannot be sure ever, you have to ask the person directly to know about the inner thoughts and feelings.

I seem to be stuck. I have days when I feel, ok enough move on, it does not matter. Only to be followed with days I revisit my journals and try to understand. Days I blame only him. Days I blame only myself, and days I blame no one at all... sigh

This song describes my condition so well, wanna give up, but something in me cannot..

posted July 20, 2018 04:43 AM            

What I believe is, he wanted to detach for some reasons, maybe bc he and I is impossible, so maybe he just wanted make himself to not feel, like "you have no effect on me anymore" thing.

Yes I did some mistakes, by for ex choosng to sit by F in a computer class and work with F instead of him. Minor stuff that he may have just used as a fuel to detach from me.

I guess he stopped feeling special in my eyes, bc thats what his actions felt like, like I was not special to him anymore. And we may have reflected back that to each other. Like he thinks I'm werid and cold. I think he is and so on.

Imagine a libra bubbly person, and a grumpy saturnian person, that what it was like. He turned from warm super attentive to cold and vulnurable. I had many bad days myself by shutting down, but I always told them that I was just going through something.

I did my best to show him and tell him he is special to me (Must be bc of my Moon on his IC!)

Maybe I was not direct enough, or he just did not wanted to see it,
I mean, I shared such big parts of myself. My fears about abondonment, how guy friend are so important, basically asking him indirectly to remain in my life, to not leave me, as a friend because I get so hurt by that. I guess all that did not mean nothing to him. Its his fault then for not seing my affection for him only.. sigh

He did give me before summer break the best ever goodbye hug atleast, haha! Close and warm, with strong back strokes, Leo worthy hug <3

posted July 20, 2018 02:29 PM            

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Aww yes I would really love that so much! Its so ironic and sad, how I find like minded great females like you, but with that physical barrier and distance :/ I made many friends whom lives in Usa via social media thanks to my photography hobby and sharing them on my budgies instagram account haha<3

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OMG I Love Photography. We would go on hikes and take pics together hahahaha

posted October 13, 2020 03:04 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
@Melinn

I will try to respond to your moon in the 8th house question regarding possessiveness.

He is back, we met up yesterday....I can say that with moon in the 8th you feel comfortable exploring your more kinky side with each other bc you connect in the 8th house. Also sex strengthens the emotional connection between the two since this is an area you really get each other in intuitively.

Its my moon in his 8th and I am not possessive of him. I feel that if our bond is strong enough we will keep coming back to each other and that is really all I care about; that we keep seeing each other and having fun together and getting closer.

People with a strong desire nature and need for diversity don't do monogamy well so I am not going to set up unrealistic expectations. Also I am more attracted to a guy who is free spirited and I don't like to control guys. If our bond makes him keep coming back and wanting to be with me that is what I want but I don't want to be possessive and controlling of him, I want him to be free and freely keep returning to me. That is what I want.

My idea of romance right now is along the lines of "your attachment and bond with me is so strong that you keep finding your way back to me."

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posted October 25, 2020 12:58 AM              

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Originally posted by CardinalT-Square:
You guys haven't felt anything yet, until you've experienced the double-whammy...ooooohhhhhffffttttaaa!!!💥💥💥

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Do you mean, her Moon in your 8th and your Moon in her 8th?

posted October 25, 2020 03:53 AM            

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Originally posted by CardinalT-Square:
You guys haven't felt anything yet, until you've experienced the double-whammy...ooooohhhhhffffttttaaa!!!💥💥💥

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