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hypatia238
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posted June 15, 2018 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon in the 8th gives a STRONG desire to fu*k each other LOL....well that is one manifestation hahahaha

Moon in the 8th is some really powerful stuff, like is very easy to become obsessed and get super attached quickly, its intense. Is like it puts you under a spell, seriously. It can feel SUPER karmic. Its easy to get lost in the person; obsession, compulsion, fears come to the surface as well as desire.

Now on a friendship level it manifests as a very deep strong love and bond but in a romantic level it can easily get out of control IME but yes when it works out the bond is very strong. I feel that this placement can be great if it plays out with the right person who will treat you right and take care of your heart and understand the importance of protecting your heart bc is such a vulnerable synastry placement.

Amazing interpretation of this placement: http://youtu.be/3QHn4c1uKyA

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posted June 15, 2018 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hear you....8th house is the Pluto house so Moon in the 8th is like having a Moon Pluto conjunction, but not quite as strong but still close to the feeling, an incredible feeling.

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posted June 15, 2018 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
I hear you....8th house is the Pluto house so Moon in the 8th is like having a Moon Pluto conjunction, but not quite as strong but still close to the feeling

IDK I had a one night stand with someone I had moon opposite pluto double whammy both exact and his moon in aries in my 4th house and this moon in the 8th house stuff is more powerful in my experience. I think bc pluto is generational and the 8th house is personal it feels more intense to me.

Like I have Pluto in Libra so moon in Libra conjunct my Pluto feels airy and not that intense. In my 8th I have a lot of Leo and a little bit of cancer so it feels more intense and my moon in Pisces ruling my 8th in someone's 8th is intense too bc Pisces wants to get lost in the other, OH GOD that explains it. Ohh geez like the boundaries between my moon and his 8th were not there, I got lost in a haze inside his 8th house.

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posted June 16, 2018 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha well was this why you asked about my crush having his moon in my 8th venus in your 8th venus thread? :P


I have been friends with 2 guys for more then a year now. Uni class mates and we have worked on a project for the last 5 months.

One of them is my crush (or hopefully soon, former crush as I wanna cut him out!)

And let me just say that, we started out as 3 polite adults, and soon it all was a huge emotional mess, power plays, unconcious needs of wanna control and dominate each other. Feeling of hurt, disappointment... and over charing. Lots and lots of over sharing....

Like, the dynamics between me and thise 2 guys changed so rapidly, so fast. Now after 5 months with them ending with our summer break, feels like I was at war and now I'm sitting here and going "Wtf happened? Wtf was this and that all about WHAT HAVE I DONE?!" ( haha no there was no sex involved, only "emotions")


I'm still trying to figure some things out. I can't understand how my Leo-libra guy could turn out the way he did.

The other guy, I call him E, I do get him much better.


You see, one of the main problems and the culprit I always thought was, me. I Blamed EVERYTHING on me. Because, I have Sun oppo Pluto. I tend to bring out the deepest essense, the deepest fears and insecurities in both myself and the other persons, and I often have power plays with guys. I think they wan't to conttrol me, bc they think I wanna control them (which is true in a way, but I only wanna control their "thoughts" and feelings about me)

However, I had missed out one big thing

The thing is, my crush has Moon in aries falling into my 8th Venus -Jupiter node

AND E has his Moon and Mars in aries, yap falling on my venus-Jupiter node in 8th. How about that? No wonder we had such emotional roller costers and dram, brought by me but... was I really the only drama bringer? Was I the only culprit in our group?


I have no romantic feelings at all for E, even though we have great synastry. I don't find him attractive, mostly bc he does not work out. Virgo Asc can't feel attraction to a guy that is not healthy and Fit! Also he has sun in virgo and saturnian mercury. He is too harsh and cold, and too alike me so I find those traits repulsive about him. I prefer warm and tender and sensetive polite guys, like my crush (Leo-Libra etc)

I have always seen E as an annoying brother. But he may have had unconcious feelings for me. I know he find me endearing in some was, and that he loves my sense of humor.

Anyway here was a thread I started about my problems with E. But I have to update it bc, a LOT happened after him apologizing to me. I feel so close to him now, and we bonded so much our last 2 weeks together, and I now feel like he really gets me and wants to protect me. How weird is that?!
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/007852.html

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posted June 16, 2018 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure what to share here about my experiences. And dunno if this is a thread thats suppose to be about sex and sexual experiences with moon 8th synastry?

Anyway, I have it with 2 guy friends and yap, itts intense. Too much tension, I really regret working with them on projects, bc, my only motive was to get emotionally closer to them, and to them to hold on tight on me and see me as theri close friend. But after all this emotional turmoils we had, I feel so much like a failure.

I failed so hard it seems. We bonded alright, but not in the way I wanted to and not through ways I wanted to. I mean I tried, I tried too much maybe, and I'm too intense and also repulsive thanks to sun-plluto. But I did not give up and tried my best... sigh. I'm such a disappoinment to myself right now.

I hope though they think about me, and the ways they fudged up things.

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posted June 16, 2018 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^No it does not have to be about sex at all

My best friend from childhood David has his Sun, Moon and Venus all fall in my 8th house, I have a super deep strong unbreakable bond with him. I never dated him bc I did not want to risk our friendship, I valued it too much and he never asked me out. We did kiss when I was like 7 and one time as adults so I guess the sexual stuff manifested to some extent anyways.

But he is like my brother, our hugs are epic. I would go visit my country every summer and sometimes christmas and the person I was looking forward to seeing the most was him always, My feelings for him were intense but he was my best friend. He always protected me and toook care of me, is in his nature to be that way. He is awesome, I will always love him. I just got teary, there are times I see pics of him on facebook and I start to cry, I have such a strong bond with him. One of the strongest bonds I have ever experienced. He is an example of how moon in the 8th can be amazing. However, I knew him since I was born literally and he is not my type physically so it manifested as this deep bond and love on a friendship level but I always say he is family bc my love for him is deep and unbreakable.

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posted June 16, 2018 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Melinn:
I'm not sure what to share here about my experiences. And dunno if this is a thread thats suppose to be about sex and sexual experiences with moon 8th synastry?

Anyway, I have it with 2 guy friends and yap, itts intense. Too much tension, I really regret working with them on projects, bc, my only motive was to get emotionally closer to them, and to them to hold on tight on me and see me as theri close friend. But after all this emotional turmoils we had, I feel so much like a failure.

I failed so hard it seems. We bonded alright, but not in the way I wanted to and not through ways I wanted to. I mean I tried, I tried too much maybe, and I'm too intense and also repulsive thanks to sun-plluto. But I did not give up and tried my best... sigh. I'm such a disappoinment to myself right now.

I hope though they think about me, and the ways they fudged up things.


You have a beautiful heart

Ha "emotional turmoil" that is what my last guy said he was experiencing and my moon falls in his 8th LOL.

Its a tough placement but can be so beautiful with the right person.

You did not fail, you tried, its a very tough placement and if the other does not appreciate the beauty it has to offer, the intense bond that can come from it and handle the intensity that comes with it, they will not allow themselves to receive the love been offered and that is not your fault.

This is how I was able to heal, I wrote this yesterday:

"I think when we are hurt we shut down and disconnect which makes it worse but the moment we open up and let ourselves receive love from the right people that are already present in our life we heal."

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posted June 17, 2018 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocketrocket     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only Moon in 8th contact I had is with one astrologer. My Venus is in the 8th in conjunct with his Moon only by sign, not by orbs.

We were talking about lots of stuff, besides astrology. I felt that he's quite comfortable to be natural and relaxed in communication with me.

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posted June 18, 2018 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
^No it does not have to be about sex at all

My best friend from childhood David has his Sun, Moon and Venus all fall in my 8th house, I have a super deep strong unbreakable bond with him. I never dated him bc I did not want to risk our friendship, I valued it too much and he never asked me out. We did kiss when I was like 7 and one time as adults so I guess the sexual stuff manifested to some extent anyways.

But he is like my brother, our hugs are epic. I would go visit my country every summer and sometimes christmas and the person I was looking forward to seeing the most was him always, My feelings for him were intense but he was my best friend. He always protected me and toook care of me, is in his nature to be that way. He is awesome, I will always love him. I just got teary, there are times I see pics of him on facebook and I start to cry, I have such a strong bond with him. One of the strongest bonds I have ever experienced. He is an example of how moon in the 8th can be amazing. However, I knew him since I was born literally and he is not my type physically so it manifested as this deep bond and love on a friendship level but I always say he is family bc my love for him is deep and unbreakable.


Oh Hypatia that sounds so beautiful, so awesome! I think I understand the feeling you are describing! I have not had that feeling for any guy friend yet, but I have it for family members and for close female friends that now lives far away.

It's such an emotional and beautiful form of love, I'm happy you have that in your life! <3


I am slowly getting that feeling for my guy friend E. And that happened after we had a personal "crisis" one day, (8 house related!)

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posted June 18, 2018 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He made me so upset and angry and sad, I tried my best to make him stop, but he has Mars-Moon in aries. A very harsh Mercury-saturn. And also his Sun is virgo and Venus is in his 6th, he constanly picks at me for the tiniest things, typical "I like you" virgo behaviour.

However, that crisis day, we parted for the day with him getting more and more harsh, and I said "I'm not gonna talk to you about anything anymore" and I just walked away.


Anyways 1 hour later, E
texted me saying he was very sorry for hurting me, and that I seemed very sad when I walked away earlier. I was so surpriced! Because he is very saturnian, he never opens up like this, that really showed vulnebelery and it showed he is ok with letting his ego down so to speak. The day after, I watched his actions closely, and he was really careful with how he talked to me, he was very kind and open and thoughtful etc.

So he did his best to make it up to me. After that day, he really grew in my eyes, and I realised, I had always kept him at bay, I was always seing him as the "buffer" between I and my crush. I had not given him a real chance! And after that we both became more and more closer emotionally!

And for ex, I started to indirectly share my fear of loosing them as friends. I used indirect ways but he understood me and tried to reassure me.

Not in a comforting way though, he is too saturnian for that. But he showed me he listened, he stated clearly that he thought I was werid as hell though haha, he did not get why I was so emotionell! He was irritated with me for my "weird" ways.

But he tried to come with solutions in his own ways to reassure me anyways! And I started to respect him more and more for that and I feel like he started to try to protect me.


The downside is, I felt how my crush who always made sure to ask me how I was feeling, if I was ok with this or that etc. Always encouraging me with kind and thoughtful comments about me and my work etc, he started to back away from all that. He became snappy and he stopped showing much care.

Or he started this for some time ago when him and I had a "crisis", but it got worse when he saw me and E becaming closer!

Instead E started to "support" me, with thoughtful comments and encouragement etc. The dynamics changed so much :/

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posted June 18, 2018 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have 2 questions about this realted to my story above.

1- Does the person who his moon in your 8th in the synastry make the mooon person feel "posessive" of you?

2- Is more of a natal question, and maybe I should ask it in the astrology 2.0 section too but: Does having Pluto Sextile Sun in ones natal chart make a person Plutonian?

Because, I'm super Plutonian (yikes)
but my crush has not many Pluto aspects,
Only big ones is the sextile to his Leo sun.
And Pluto inconjunct his Moon.

Is thise enough to make him plutonic? I mean, how do you guys know if a person may be as obsessed as you are in a relationship, if the person tends to have a great poker face and going warm vs cold very often?

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posted June 21, 2018 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Melinn

I will try to respond to your moon in the 8th house question regarding possessiveness.

He is back, we met up yesterday....I can say that with moon in the 8th you feel comfortable exploring your more kinky side with each other bc you connect in the 8th house. Also sex strengthens the emotional connection between the two since this is an area you really get each other in intuitively.

Its my moon in his 8th and I am not possessive of him. I feel that if our bond is strong enough we will keep coming back to each other and that is really all I care about; that we keep seeing each other and having fun together and getting closer.

People with a strong desire nature and need for diversity don't do monogamy well so I am not going to set up unrealistic expectations. Also I am more attracted to a guy who is free spirited and I don't like to control guys. If our bond makes him keep coming back and wanting to be with me that is what I want but I don't want to be possessive and controlling of him, I want him to be free and freely keep returning to me. That is what I want.

My idea of romance right now is along the lines of "your attachment and bond with me is so strong that you keep finding your way back to me."

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posted June 22, 2018 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
I hear you....8th house is the Pluto house so Moon in the 8th is like having a Moon Pluto conjunction, but not quite as strong but still close to the feeling, an incredible feeling.

Update:
His MOON parallels exact my PLUTO and my Moon falls in his 8th. My moon trines his pluto too and his moon opposes my pluto by sign only and falls right on my IC.

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posted June 29, 2018 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
UPDATE:

SO it turns out he lied about his birthday, I understand why he lied about that, I kind of set it up so there was potential for that and we might have not met if he didn't so I am glad he did.

He is actually a Capricorn with Pluto conjunct ascendant in SCORPIO.

We don't have moon in the 8th, my moon falls in his 4th house though.

BUT we do have a highly plutonic composite and davison:

In Davison we do have Moon in the 8th house forming a tsquare with venus in the 11th opposite pluto in the 5th.

In composite we have sun conjunct venus, venus conjunct Pluto and Moon square Pluto.

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posted June 30, 2018 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The composite Moon in the 8th house indicates a relationship that is emotionally intense, and the feelings which are aroused between this couple are extreme and deep.

In a relationship chart, the composite Moon describes the emotional coloration and requirements of the union, and the 8th house rules the parts of life that no one wants to openly talk about. The Moon represents our need for security, refuge, and retreat, and it isn’t always comfortable in the 8th house.

The relationship is left sensitive to the feelings of being unsafe, threatened, and provoked, and also when you care about someone you love, you learn all of each others strengths and weaknesses and then one is fully armed to do the most damage. Whilst this is an incredibly bonding Moon the feelings are powerful and there could be painful lessons about letting go. Furthermore, the couple might have to undergo emotional crisis and enormous change in their personal life. Almost everything in the couple’s world triggers these powerful emotions.

The water houses also have something to say about the psychological family inheritance from both sides of the family. The emotional side of this relationship is hidden from other people and represents the most sensitive and vulnerable area in the couple’s life. The 8th house rules abuses of all kinds, secrets, and transformational healing. It’s here where the couple have emotional access to the hidden depths of relating and it also puts the emotional focus on the survival of the relationship itself.

With the composite Moon in the eighth house, nothing of a psychologically edgy nature is going to remain buried for long between these two. Their relationship seems to have a defective repressive mechanism. That can beautiful, in that it promotes truthfulness, transparency and a kind of “nakedness” between them. Naturally it can also prove volatile. Jealousy, anger, possessiveness, insecurity-whatever they don’t want to see in themselves—is quickly open.

Full article: http://theastrologyplacemembership.com/2011/04/composite-moon-in-8th-house/

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posted June 30, 2018 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it depends greatly on the personality of the two people involved.

my moon is in one of my friend's 8th house. in the composite we have moon/mecury/sun conjunct all in the 8th house.

this is one of the least sexual relationships in my life and yes we originally started as lovers, but that relationship was very jupiterian, that we both eventually decided to break up and remain friends!

I am a plutonic person, but he isn't. that's why I think I never had any intense sexual feelings for him. I have lent him money though, and have helped him in times of emotional crisis. perhaps that's how our moon in the 8th manifests.

but still, I think when you have a strong jupiter or venus in your chart, it is hard to get involved in or enjoy 8th house types of sex and relationship.

in the case of me and this guy, I have moon in the 9th, he is a sagittarius sun and we both have jupiter as one of our strongest planets (tightly angular). so jupiter is pretty much all we're about.

I find it interesting that even though we're no longer dating, the topics of our conversations are still around intense metaphysical, religious, or sexual experiences. pretty much anything that will transform you (8th house). it's just not focused on us anymore, but we both definitely enjoy those conversations and learn a lot from them.

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posted June 30, 2018 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
girlwiththerainysoul

Thanks so much for sharing those two posts with me, I hope you don't edit them out; at least not all of it .

Fascinating truly.

I find your theory about Jupiter/venus types not been able to enjoy plutonic/8th house relationships very interesting.

In addition to sun conjunct 8th cusp, I am curious about your Davison and Composite with her. What other pluto aspects were at play I wonder?

I will add that my best friend from high school her Sun conjuncted my 8th house cusp too and she did want to experiment with me.

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posted June 30, 2018 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hypatia,

I'm more than glad to have helped.


This is our composite

* her time of birth isn't exact, so the composite sun/venus could be either in the 7th or the 8th

and Davidson

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posted June 30, 2018 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Girl that Moon opposing Jupiter conjunct 5th cusp forming a tsquare with pluto in the 8th at the apex has to be super intense and why you had a strong romantic connection and sexual attraction.

Add the other tsquare from the composite with Sun conjunct Venus opposite Mars squaring Neptune at the apex, this enhances further the romantic connection and sexual attraction but in a more Neptunian way.

Thank you so much for sharing and posting those charts.

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You're very welcome Hypa

I must add, we had a strong mental connection too. We just couldn't lie to each other. We could tell how the other was feeling simply by looking in their eyes.

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posted June 30, 2018 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think strong plutonic connections are psychic. I have a strong psychic connection with my capricorn guy and am thinking is that OR maybe bc my Psyche conjuncts his AC.

I think 8th house stuff is communication without words, on a psychic level and through erotic love.

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posted July 09, 2018 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@Melinn

I will try to respond to your moon in the 8th house question regarding possessiveness.

He is back, we met up yesterday....I can say that with moon in the 8th you feel comfortable exploring your more kinky side with each other bc you connect in the 8th house. Also sex strengthens the emotional connection between the two since this is an area you really get each other in intuitively.

Its my moon in his 8th and I am not possessive of him. I feel that if our bond is strong enough we will keep coming back to each other and that is really all I care about; that we keep seeing each other and having fun together and getting closer.

People with a strong desire nature and need for diversity don't do monogamy well so I am not going to set up unrealistic expectations. Also I am more attracted to a guy who is free spirited and I don't like to control guys. If our bond makes him keep coming back and wanting to be with me that is what I want but I don't want to be possessive and controlling of him, I want him to be free and freely keep returning to me. That is what I want.

My idea of romance right now is along the lines of "your attachment and bond with me is so strong that you keep finding your way back to me."



You describe it so beautifully <3, its like a wild horse whom you earned the trust in, and he will be wild and free, sometimes very near, sometimes further away but always be near you and come back to you.

I'm a walking paradox, in one hand, I'm plutonic, in the other hand, I have many Uranus contacts to my: Sun, Moon, Mars, Chiron, Mercury, saturn. I hate being confined, being told to not do this or that, think this or that. And for me being plutonic plays out like it: Fear of loosing, jelousy, testing for lies and sincerity, and also craving emotional intimicy. And as an 8th house Venus Aries, and maybe Mars-saturn=strategies.

For ex I will both use my Aries charm on a guy, by showing my direct interest, I'm a mix between direct and a bit shy. I will interchange between both.

Then after when I know he is interested and showing genuine warmth I will use indirect ways to set up scenes where we can approach each other. I have to have some balance, so I know the person really wants to come to me.

Thats why I for ex never get angry if I don't hear anything from my guy friends or crush during summer breaks etc for months. Because I really like giving space!

Its when I have not choosen to have and give space and have expectations of something, then I will get very disappointed.

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posted July 16, 2018 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Melinn:

You describe it so beautifully <3, its like a wild horse whom you earned the trust in, and he will be wild and free, sometimes very near, sometimes further away but always be near you and come back to you.

That is such a beautiful way to put it. Perfect metaphor truly.

I should mention that in Davison our Chart Ruler is the MOON which falls in our 8th house but we have Moon in AQUARIUS hence why I keep talking about this concept of "possessing him freely" when I talk about him/us. There is this "you are mine" but you are "free" dichotomy playing out in our relationship which I feel our Davison chart ruler moon in Aquarius in the 8th really explains. We also have Davison Juno in Aquarius at 29 degrees.

I have an open mind about us but I also want him to be mine and free at the same time . Like he can be with other people from time to time if he feels he needs that but I want to have his heart and soul.

Its such an interesting Davison placement

One negative side effect of this Moon in Aquarius in the 8th is that Moon in the 8th wants to feel secure but Moon in Aquarius has this erratic feeling to it that feels like it can end at any moment yet bec our chart ruler is in the 8th forming a tsquare with venus opposite pluto in scorpio in the 5th this is a pretty binding placement and will probably last even if it feels like the rug can get pulled under you at any moment.

On a positive note this feeling makes me value us more and appreciate each moment I have with him.

I would think Davison moon in the 8th in cancer or scorpio would be very possessive.

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