posted August 21, 2018 08:06 PM            

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posted August 22, 2018 01:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
The moon conjunct the dsc (moon conjunct angles in general), can indicate past life connections. Perhaps friends or lovers in the past, which could explain why you feel some already strongly established affinity and like you're "used" to them even before you really got to know them. Your chart and aspects look pretty good, and it could go either way, depending on you.

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Thank you so much!

posted August 23, 2018 02:08 AM            

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sigh...
so, this is one of the few times i feel a very pleasant emotional connection with the opposite sex, like, this ease where that other someone understands me and we can talk for hours!

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Aahhh.. that is so so clear in your charts, your Lunar phases pefectly and wonderfully lign up together. It is (and SHOULD!) Always (be) the first thing to look at and WoW ..

You have a BEAR HUG!

which means:
- both Sun/Moon midpoints are conjunct!
- You have a loveeeeeeeely DW Sun-Moon (tight TRINE!)

Here you can read about the math behind a Bear Hug and more;
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/219549.html

posted August 23, 2018 09:53 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Aahhh.. that is so so clear in your charts, your Lunar phases pefectly and wonderfully lign up together. It is (and SHOULD!) Always (be) the first thing to look at and WoW ..

You have a BEAR HUG!

which means:
- both Sun/Moon midpoints are conjunct!
- You have a loveeeeeeeely DW Sun-Moon (tight TRINE!)

Here you can read about the math behind a Bear Hug and more;
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/219549.html

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wow! I have to do my homework now. I remember you, you’re part of the old gang, it’s nice!

my concern is the lack of supporting Venus contacts. I keep attracting rships that focus too much on the convo part

I’ve had an experience with Venus Leo and it was too much on and off and like, we had different views of romance so they couldn’t fulfill my romantic ideals

with this person, i also feel like I would be the chaser, the more fiery one. the more intense

Btw, do you remember doux reve? she once wrote the following about what type of person would match me astrologically

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, I think your partner should have a strong Pluto or Scorpio placements to match your natal chart. Earth signs would be fitting, also, especially Virgo because it falls in your 5th and would support your Taurus Moon and Scorpio stellium. The Sun/Mercury conjunction in the 7th emphases this, also. I can imagine your partner having a dignified Sun, prominent Moon and strong Pluto. A mix of generosity, intensity and nurturing.

More generally, I've noticed that it's good to have someone's planet(s) make a Grand Trine with a natal trine of ours - it creates a flowing, natural, easy-going energy.

In your case I think a planet/point around 13° Cancer would be beneficial, as it would trine your Jupiter and Scorp planets.

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what do you think?

posted August 23, 2018 01:48 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Well you know, I think it isn't a coincidence attracting personal bodies in Leo with your natal T-square of Sun-Moon-Mars. I have the latter too u know (Sun Leo- Moon Scorp- Mars Aqua) and keep attracting Taurus personal planets. Although.. I never had one with Venus in it! You do and I can see why you might find yourself being the chaser. For myself, I don't like "chasers" so much... do u?
Yup.. Doux I remember, she might have a point but the first thing I would think seeing your chart; ow there's a Leo body missing! And then seeing ones Venus offering that peace of the puzzle; voila! I think it only adds to the attraction. Some tension next to wonderfully aligned lunar phases.. uh why not? Let it unfold .. take your time, is that an option?

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i wouldn’t mind being wanted.
I guess I’ve had too many experiences in which i was more into the rship than the other person or when i was doing everything to keep the rship afloat or doing literally everything because the guy didn’t even know how to boil an egg. and i want to experience what it would be like to be a queen or a princess for once.

this is one of the reasons I’m obsessed with meeting someone whose mars trine or conjunct my venus. I’ve heard wonders about this

and someone with more scorpionic planets will be more fixed and want to make the rship work, plus loyalty. I love loyalty

posted August 28, 2018 02:12 PM            

just an update. it’s really cool! i don’t think it’s possible for us to ever get mad or angry with one another. So comfy

what i do think is that there’ll be issues when it comes to our values. like on one hand, they remind me a lot of myself: very humanitarian, it must be the jup. In aqua? on the other, I don’t know. I’m more fixed and pragmatic

also, they are a bit all over the place whereas im more of a go getter and very goal oriented. i see something and i want it

and I’m amazed people can’t stand cancer mooners, I feel like I can open myself and won’t get hurt. It feels very cuddly and comforting

posted August 28, 2018 04:07 PM            

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but, i dont see anything interesting happening with our venuses. like, i sense that when it comes to romance, we have nothing going on. and how ive wanted to meet someone whose mars trine or conjunct my venus!

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Hi, returning "oldie" wondering why you're dismissing your Venus conjunct Pluto entirely maybe? It looks to be a 5 degree orb or so but those two are STRONG in my opinion, and should make for potentially steamy or intense associations.

You also have a loose opposition between one Venus & Mars from what I glanced at things, so is it just that you'd prefer a trine or conjunction specifically?

posted August 28, 2018 04:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Keela Dal:
Hi, returning "oldie" wondering why you're dismissing your Venus conjunct Pluto entirely maybe? It looks to be a 5 degree orb or so but those two are STRONG in my opinion, and should make for potentially steamy or intense associations.

You also have a loose opposition between one Venus & Mars from what I glanced at things, so is it just that you'd prefer a trine or conjunction specifically?

I can't really say anything about if you should stay as friends only but at the quickest first glance there are some potentially "sexual" vibing aspects with those two alone. I didn't check what you'd maybe want based on your chart for now but if he fits in with long-term relationship ideas the decision should be yours, of course. I may pitch in later again when with a bit more time. Always good to get along though, isn't it?

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hello! Oldie but goodie

i did notice the Venus conjunct pluto but i don’t give too much credence, im sort of meh about aspects between the inner and outer planets. it seems that here, people emphasize aspects between the inner planets.

Its not that I rather have a Venus/mars or Venus/Venus, mars/mars conjunction aspect but that ive never felt it so I’m curious

ive also never experienced the love stellium in composite so I feel like I’m missing out although some astrologers don’t care much for composite anyways

im not interested in the sexual but more like friendship, companionship, stability, you know? cause im at this point where id like to get married and have kids. do you see important aspects for this?

as to Eros and Juno, you’re right! interesting aspects when it comes to asteroids but like you, I don’t have much experience and I’m sort of dismissiveish about them

posted August 28, 2018 06:12 PM            

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Originally posted by hikoro:

im not interested in the sexual but more like friendship, companionship, stability, you know? cause im at this point where id like to get married and have kids. do you see important aspects for this?

as to Eros and Juno, you’re right! interesting aspects when it comes to asteroids but like you, I don’t have much experience and I’m sort of dismissiveish about them

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Maybe it's changed the last three years. I don't remember people eschewing outer planets per se back whenever, irrelevant just now here or not.

It depends more so (maybe) on if something is significant in your chart, say, if you respond to Pluto more so based on what is in your chart, or his maybe? I e.g. haven't felt Pluto transits said to be harsh that particularly (badly) and all I can guess for that is that Pluto is the only planet in my natal chart which does NOT make any square aspects to other planets? Pluto for me is a respite perhaps?

Romantic relationships mostly or often encompass the sexual and you seemed to be lamenting that you only had the kind of things that you list there already. Sun/Moon/ASC (or the Sun/Saturn) contacts & what you first described seem to fall under companionship & stability, so with asking for Venus contacts on top it seemed you maybe want more fire or sparks as well?

I'm not really dismissive about asteroids, their having their uses. The last time I was here I racked up 821 posts under "Keela", just couldn't get the old password sent to the email address I thought was tied to the username so had to start a-new.

Some aspects or specifics just get lost or don't get talked about as much. So while I'd generally say Juno conj SN is excellent for marriage type things, it, IMO, again kind of depends on how the SN person handles their nodes. Some may love the familiarity (I see that adding to your feelings of that) but then eventually, sooner or later, find themselves responding to it with irritation or boredom, e.g.

The Sun-Saturn seems binding but you may want to read up on Mars square Saturn synastry aspects to decide if you think you can handle it. The suggestion seems to be that Saturn squares either hinder things from getting properly started or that they eventually cause grinding conflict enough to separate people after some years or decades. If you're interested in marriage or the sort, all it takes is the will to keep at things if there are issues somewhere down the line, I guess. Not everything automatically works the same way every time so some people live perfectly happily with slightly more challenging squares as well.

I haven't glanced at the composite at all so far so again, may have to do that sometime.

posted August 28, 2018 06:25 PM            

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Originally posted by hikoro:
Lalafortunaea and mir!

just an update. it’s really cool! i don’t think it’s possible for us to ever get mad or angry with one another. So comfy

what i do think is that there’ll be issues when it comes to our values. like on one hand, they remind me a lot of myself: very humanitarian, it must be the jup. In aqua? on the other, I don’t know. I’m more fixed and pragmatic

also, they are a bit all over the place whereas im more of a go getter and very goal oriented. i see something and i want it

and I’m amazed people can’t stand cancer mooners, I feel like I can open myself and won’t get hurt. It feels very cuddly and comforting

but this is all too good to be true so if someone wants to tell me the cons, or more pros, I’m open!

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Haha those well fitting Lunar phases at play!

posted August 28, 2018 07:18 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:

Haha those well fitting Lunar phases at play!

@ pardon me, extremely well fitting.. etc.

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posted August 28, 2018 07:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Keela Dal:

Maybe it's changed the last three years. I don't remember people eschewing outer planets per se back whenever, irrelevant just now here or not.

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i mean, people raving more about connections between the inner planets?

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It depends more so (maybe) on if something is significant in your chart, say, if you respond to Pluto more so based on what is in your chart, or his maybe? I e.g. haven't felt Pluto transits said to be harsh that particularly (badly) and all I can guess for that is that Pluto is the only planet in my natal chart which does NOT make any square aspects to other planets? Pluto for me is a respite perhaps?

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the pluto aspect i like cause im quite plutonic so, there's def. a pull

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Romantic relationships mostly or often encompass the sexual and you seemed to be lamenting that you only had the kind of things that you list there already. Sun/Moon/ASC (or the Sun/Saturn) contacts & what you first described seem to fall under companionship & stability, so with asking for Venus contacts on top it seemed you maybe want more fire or sparks as well?

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like this. ive read that mars/venus square and oppositions are really hot, which is true. ive been there and it was hot but...it got to a point where one of us was cold and the other one was warm. we became out of sync and eventually, even the heat disappeared

i read people talking about how nice it is when your venuses trines. like for example when the venuses trines, both people have a similar disposition when it comes to romance and i find this very endearing.

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I'm not really dismissive about asteroids, their having their uses. The last time I was here I racked up 821 posts under "Keela", just couldn't get the old password sent to the email address I thought was tied to the username so had to start a-new.

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yeah, i remember you

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Some aspects or specifics just get lost or don't get talked about as much. So while I'd generally say Juno conj SN is excellent for marriage type things, it, IMO, again kind of depends on how the SN person handles their nodes. Some may love the familiarity (I see that adding to your feelings of that) but then eventually, sooner or later, find themselves responding to it with irritation or boredom, e.g.

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interesting. ive never paid that much attention to the nodes

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The Sun-Saturn seems binding but you may want to read up on Mars square Saturn synastry aspects to decide if you think you can handle it. The suggestion seems to be that Saturn squares either hinder things from getting properly started or that they eventually cause grinding conflict enough to separate people after some years or decades. If you're interested in marriage or the sort, all it takes is the will to keep at things if there are issues somewhere down the line, I guess. Not everything automatically works the same way every time so some people live perfectly happily with slightly more challenging squares as well.

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i did read upon it. so many descriptions. even found this old thread.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000359.html

some people comment it's awful whereas others see it as common in marriages. i feel slightly apprehensive about it. right now, we banter a lot and i never feel offended. with other people, i would but with this person, it just feels comfy

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I haven't glanced at the composite at all so far so again, may have to do that sometime.

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that would be nice. ive read that some astrologers look at the davison too so, im uploading this one too. doesnt hurt

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(Just quickly: You have plenty of Venus aspects in your composite. Including a sextile to Mars.)

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do you remember runaroundscreaming? they always wrote about the love stellium as being the sign of true love: a conjunction between sun, mercury and venus

i think hypathia was on that camp too

posted August 28, 2018 09:06 PM            

As to Venus trine Venus (or did you mean to anything?) I'm sure it smooths a lot of things. I think it's a lot about balance though, the way you say you feel comfy with the person here & clearly then must have things going on that smooth things along. If you had the majority of aspects on the positive side then I'd assume that a Saturn-square or similar wouldn't be as debilitating necessarily as if you had a lot of other things also weighing down on you. I haven't counted for even a preliminary idea how your aspects fall but it certainly didn't seem bad at first glance.

I'm sure directly identifying yourself as whoever is a double edged sword since we all have our preferences or dislikes.

Todd seems to advocate for the composites & the importance of the nodes, from my catching-up session glimpses the past couple of weeks.

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some people comment it's awful whereas others see it as common in marriages. i feel slightly apprehensive about it. right now, we banter a lot and i never feel offended. with other people, i would but with this person, it just feels comfy

do you remember runaroundscreaming? they always wrote about the love stellium as being the sign of true love: a conjunction between sun, mercury and venus

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That was also my point, that it is common in marriages but that it may not last a lifetime like a trine or maybe even a conjunction in some cases perhaps? I've misplaced a 1980s era astrology book (from Gail "Ariel" Guttman) where she said Saturn aspects to Moon, Mars & Venus are fairly common but may not always last (beyond, say, a couple of years to 20 years?). She also talked about Saturn-ASC & Sun but I don't remember what she said about those.

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Originally posted by Keela Dal:
If going out of sync I guess you had a square going on? Doesn't matter now but seems the likelier culprit.

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we had:

venus square venus
venus square mars
venus opposite mars
mars square mars

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As to Venus trine Venus (or did you mean to anything?) I'm sure it smooths a lot of things. I think it's a lot about balance though, the way you say you feel comfy with the person here & clearly then must have things going on that smooth things along. If you had the majority of aspects on the positive side then I'd assume that a Saturn-square or similar wouldn't be as debilitating necessarily as if you had a lot of other things also weighing down on you. I haven't counted for even a preliminary idea how your aspects fall but it certainly didn't seem bad at first glance.

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so by the looks of it, counting the saturn square mars and also the venus leo and aqua jupiter squaring some of my planets, we are better as friends then

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Todd seems to advocate for the composites & the importance of the nodes, from my catching-up session glimpses the past couple of weeks.

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i dont know who todd is, truly.

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That was also my point, that it is common in marriages but that it may not last a lifetime like a trine or maybe even a conjunction in some cases perhaps? I've misplaced a 1980s era astrology book (from Gail "Ariel" Guttman) where she said Saturn aspects to Moon, Mars & Venus are fairly common but may not always last (beyond, say, a couple of years to 20 years?). She also talked about Saturn-ASC & Sun but I don't remember what she said about those.

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but isnt saturn very binding too? ive seen threads here of people whose parents, grandparents and friends were still together for more than two decades....so, what gives?

it just seems like there're so many different opinions.

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I didn't remember the nick offhand but recognized it when seen, of course. I favoured the ideas about geometric patterns myself but also don't remember if I ever had that "love stellium" with anyone. I'll be posting about a composite with a Venus-Mercury-Valentine conjunction sometime soon and think that should do on similar fronts (if a composite otherwise isn't dismal. Generally speaking).

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interesting

i redrew the chart and included valentine, amor, cupid, osiris and isis

in the composite, isis and osiris are almost conjunct. osiris is 17 degrees and isis is 21 degrees

both osiris and isis are conjunct uranus though

in synastry, my isis almost trines his osiris. isis is 26 and osiris is 29+

posted August 29, 2018 06:50 AM            

Your Moon-Mars & Scorpio planets for the above, that is. Forgot the benefics came from his side, but then it doesn't seem that particularly dreary at all for squares I guess.

Talking about the following for the geometric pattern completion mentions. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000093.html

Also, like I said, I haven't counted if you mostly have positive or easy aspects going on. If that, then a few squares shouldn't ruin anything if you know it's something you may need to work with. Nobody else can tell you what you ultimately want to do ether, you know what is right for you.

Saturn is binding but not everybody handles it the same. Which seems to be the theme of everything I've been saying, that it depends on the people involved how gracefully they can deal with Saturn's more limiting sides or anything else. Plus if there are a lot of challenging aspects, then at times there are too many things to work with over time & some people feel it easier to part ways. Others sail right through the same difficulties because those particular things don't weigh as heavily on them.

The tendency for a planet or aspects of it to "cause" something can exist but some people balk right at even the suggestion of the aspect while others find it helps them grow together more so. Hypatia's post about 12H stelliums seemed an anathema to _me_ because I'd had less than ideal planets as part of one at my end, while her experience was a more blissful one. Both are right, but the details differ.

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Was it Mir or someone up there who already noted you have that T-square as if waiting for something at the relevant degree range in Leo to fill in the empty or missing spot, to form a synastry Grand Cross? Because that's what your squares "need" just like my T-square maybe in another spot. Having something squaring the ones you mentioned isn't bad at all if looked at from the geometric pattern completion side or even just if considering they're squares to the benefics or whatever the name was again for Venus & Jupiter. It's what you "need", not some automatic no. Just depends what squares them as well.

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Talking about the following for the geometric pattern completion mentions. ]http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000093.html

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Also, like I said, I haven't counted if you mostly have positive or easy aspects going on. If that, then a few squares shouldn't ruin anything if you know it's something you may need to work with. Nobody else can tell you what you ultimately want to do ether, you know what is right for you.

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I know but im not going to jump into something unless I see some really good potential. My Taurus is very strong right now. Give me something long-term and stability.

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Saturn is binding but not everybody handles it the same. Which seems to be the theme of everything I've been saying, that it depends on the people involved how gracefully they can deal with Saturn's more limiting sides or anything else. Plus if there are a lot of challenging aspects, then at times there are too many things to work with over time & some people feel it easier to part ways. Others sail right through the same difficulties because those particular things don't weigh as heavily on them.

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This is one of the reasons im more convinced that you have to consider the natal chart when it comes to synastry and composite because for example, due to my squares and oppositions, I find I thrive when being challenged. I can handle it so for me, square and oppositions might not be too bad. However, maybe im missing out, ive never experienced all trines and conjunctions in a romantic relationship, so who knows?

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The tendency for a planet or aspects of it to "cause" something can exist but some people balk right at even the suggestion of the aspect while others find it helps them grow together more so. Hypatia's post about 12H stelliums seemed an anathema to _me_ because I'd had less than ideal planets as part of one at my end, while her experience was a more blissful one. Both are right, but the details differ.

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Prolly because of the individual chart

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I'm still a bit low on time so this is all generic more so, not tying to your chart specifically. Needs another look sometime. Just wanted to address that square scepticism first.

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