posted September 06, 2018 01:01 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Another quick glance…

An exact contra-parallel between the Sun and the Moon in the progressed compo (both progressed Sun/Moon midpoints in the declinations totally line up together, meant: are parallel)

Are you on the verge of something totally NEW together? This to me is a strong sign of a "new start" in one way or another..

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@ it's btw very interesting that you have a tight Sun/Moon parallel in the regular composite already (and so natal midpoints already lign up in declinations). And now that it's becoming a contra-parallel in the progressed compo (and prog midpoints line up again) you meet again and get a true START (or at least a final closure of some kind) … no coincidence! (27 years to become a parallel again / 27 years to become a contra-parallel again.. me thinks, see the rarity of this phenomenon).

So yea, I think we might conclude the "coming together" these days is clearly indicated by it. Last year .. but tightly leading up to wat is NOW exact.

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Mir, yes, we are re-considering our relationship. I initiated a break past Sunday. Its been quite taxing for me trying to keep up with him making some big stabilizing changes in his life. (We met (again) for the first time on November 4 2017. I was instantly O___O by his energy, which is very unlike me.) The changes he is making are all positive but he needs to figure them out alone I think. I felt I need to meet him on firmer ground. So I decided to leave. We put things on ice is how he put it. But I'm in a lot of pain hehe. It's been a lot of bad dreams and deep sadness and a lot of crying in exotic bird sounds. I turned into a child! It's astounding you found this break in the progressed.

I am hoping we can come back together once we figure out some things - I mean, really coming together this time. We are so different but I would like to build something with this person. It's a strange notion - I really feel we came together to build something. With laughter and thought. I don't think it's anything traditional - I think it might be artistic writing or creativity for both of us. I've never felt this way about anyone.

Are you seeing anything of this nature

posted September 06, 2018 03:27 AM            

You know, I really recommend you to read this paper about out-of-bounds planets in the declinations. Your Venus there is out-of-bounds and it's tightly parallel his out-of-bounds Mars and (even) contra-parallel his own out-of-bounds Venus. WoW!
Yea, it is clear this is a strong attraction. It simply fits and no wonder there was Always that "something special" between you both . . . .
(ofcourse there are Clearly more indicators in your regular synastry I already saw but I would say with this out-of-bounds connection it's sealed!). I came across a couple with a tight out-of-bounds Venus (hers) parallel his out-of-bounds Mars before and this was definitely THE outstanding thing to me in their syna. It was very obsessive-like, sex the overriding force between them..

posted September 06, 2018 05:03 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Aaw Hiero... (jeroen bosch was from my country, not very far from where I live - I love the soap bubble )

You know, I really recommend you to read this paper about out-of-bounds planets in the declinations. Your Venus there is out-of-bounds and it's tightly parallel his out-of-bounds Mars and (even) contra-parallel his own out-of-bounds Venus. WoW!
Yea, it is clear this is a strong attraction. It simply fits and no wonder there was Always that "something special" between you both . . . .
(ofcourse there are Clearly more indicators in your regular synastry I already saw but I would say with this out-of-bounds connection it's sealed!). I came across a couple with a tight out-of-bounds Venus (hers) parallel his out-of-bounds Mars before and this was definitely THE outstanding thing to me in their syna. It was very obsessive-like, sex the overriding force between them..

https://www.astronumerologywisdom.com/out-of-bounds-planets.html

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Omg! You're from there! I looooove Netherlandish/Dutch art. It's my favorite, although not my area of specialty. Nobody gets death and quietness better. Nobody! It's something about the light, I think. It doesn't illuminate so much as caress - It's a kind of accepting, wise light. That's also why people are obsessed with Vermeer I think. In short: I love what the geography has done to the human understanding at that part of the world. Really glad to meet you. And you too, Ami Anne. Thanks for bringing Bosch up.

Thanks, mir. I hope your other out-of-bouds couple are having a better time So this parallel energy is that's just something... there?

posted September 06, 2018 09:09 PM            

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Omg! You're from there! I looooove Netherlandish/Dutch art. It's my favorite, although not my area of specialty. Nobody gets death and quietness better. Nobody! It's something about the light, I think. It doesn't illuminate so much as caress - It's a kind of accepting, wise light. That's also why people are obsessed with Vermeer I think. In short: I love what the geography has done to the human understanding at that part of the world

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Yea I am haha. This is so special to hear from you! Really... I had no idea our art was so appreciated .. interesting!

I was with a friend tonight and I did a photoshoot of all the small BOSCH sculptures on his dresser in the living room for you... but unfortunately I could only post 8 pics here so I lost it ALL~! (it was some work via Tinypic one-by-one )
(I had 9 when pressing Submit Reply )
- so I keep it with this now and my all-time favorites on his dresser;

posted September 07, 2018 04:51 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:

I was with a friend tonight and I did a photoshoot of all the small BOSCH sculptures on his dresser in the living room for you...

HEHE .. back to astrology now

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These are fantastic! Below are the two that I have, the letter bearing bird and the baby witch - they are most beloved:

I will always wonder what sign Bosch was - Aquarius with Cap asc. or something?

How did you come to be interested in progressions in particular, mir? What is it that really sealed your interest in it?

posted September 10, 2018 02:34 AM            

If you're interested take a look at his site positiveastrology . com!

You came together under a tight applying progressed Venus-Mars opposition, one of THE start markers according to his research. Huge attraction it means. After all those months it's now separating which would mean waning attraction but still so tightly separating that I wonder if already noticeable…

It's really worth to take a look at this site with all the statistics..

I THINK … BOSCH … s c o r p i o (influence at the least) !

posted September 10, 2018 02:46 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
I want to thank you so much for asking this question of how I came to like progressions… reason I just found out Paul Westran has a facebook for progressed synastry (since march this year). Ofcourse I became a member immediately.. his research so inspired me back then!
I was so curious about his take on it these days... and well, he's still IN IT~!

If you're interested take a look at his site positiveastrology . com!

You came together under a tight applying progressed Venus-Mars opposition, one of THE start markers according to his research. Huge attraction it means. After all those months it's now separating which would mean waning attraction but still so tightly separating that I wonder if already noticeable…

It's really worth to take a look at this site with all the statistics..

I THINK … BOSCH … s c o r p i o (influence at the least) !

NICE PICS (and plants) BTW! The last postman one is the favorite sculpture of my friend . . . I forgot about the baby devil.. I like that one very much too

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posted September 10, 2018 03:14 AM            

Just look at Sun/Venus and Venus/Venus and Venus/Mars. Progressed to progressed OR progressed to natal. Trines/conjunctions/oppositions are the ones to look out for. I only remember that Venus-Mars oppositions between you. I'm not sure if there are more... can you look?
This all according to his theory. There are exceptions to every rule ofcourse.

posted September 10, 2018 03:24 AM            

Now it's your turn looking at prog to natal aspecs.

posted September 10, 2018 03:36 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Just looking at the prog to prog aspects.. definitely some hope for the future with your RETRO Venus applying to his progressed Sun in a trine!

Now it's your turn looking at prog to natal aspecs.

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Okidok! Aaalright, with prog to natals, I'm getting:

My prog. Venus conjunct his natal Pluto

His prg. Venus is trine my natal Saturn

His prog. Venus is square my natal Pluto

My natal Sun is trine is prog. Sun

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But positiveastrology does not give a timeframe for these, which I understand are important in progressed synastry. Then how should one regard these natal to prog. aspects?

posted September 10, 2018 03:46 AM            

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Just look at Sun/Venus and Venus/Venus and Venus/Mars. Progressed to progressed OR progressed to natal. Trines/conjunctions/oppositions are the ones to look out for.

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posted September 10, 2018 03:53 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
I'm so sorry HieronymusTush (lol) .. it's really only those I mentioned bringing people together and applicable to timeframe.. hence my enthusiasm about your pVenus-pSun in the nearby future..

[QUOTE]Just look at Sun/Venus and Venus/Venus and Venus/Mars. Progressed to progressed OR progressed to natal. Trines/conjunctions/oppositions are the ones to look out for.

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I see! So timeframes *are* important, when you say nearby, that's another temporary transit - right? (May I ask when it begins and when it ends? I'm going to look out for proof!)

posted September 10, 2018 04:05 AM            

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My natal Sun is trine is prog. Sun

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THAT ONE ^ is a recent discovery of NINE (my progressed master here on LL )

posted September 10, 2018 04:11 AM            

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Originally posted by HieronymusTush:
I see! So timeframes *are* important, when you say nearby, that's another temporary transit - right? (May I ask when it begins and when it ends? I'm going to look out for proof!)

So progressed astrology is based on the understanding that a relationship will be supported by nets of aspects cast into the future, which will hopefully succeed in shouldering and supporting a relationship. Aha.

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posted September 10, 2018 11:34 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Yup. And I will look later...

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I also see N. Venus to P. Sun and P. Sun to P. Venus:

Not sure how to regard these considering the timeframe

posted September 10, 2018 05:52 PM            

And now we also Clearly see that other pVenus/pSun will be exact mid 2022! Which starts to become Clearly noticeable between you both at the end of 2020 I would say.

And yup! Your pMars trine his nVenus is wonderfully applying already within the allowed orb of 2 deg! And that pSun/pVenus is perfectly taking its place after... only great aspects for the upcoming years . . . (but ONLY the tight ones I mention here, see the graph! - the others do not count)

Ooooowww.. another verrry welcome fact! Well, I was thinking.. what a pity, NO pMoon to nSun/nASC conjunction progressed syna wise (according to my prog master Nine a MUST! to have as that causes the longing to BE with each other, alone-time together! - no need for others to interrupt so to speak, so: THE clear syna start maker!) BUT there "IS" one! : his pMoon conjunct your natal ASC! Almost exact!

posted September 11, 2018 01:01 AM            

I wonder what quantitative astrology like this will mean to the masses in the coming centuries. I recently edited a history book on Ottoman history, where the young Sultan's (Osman II) execution was justified on the official records with a few "unfortunate" aspects on the day he came to the throne, meaning it was decided in the skies that he would never be a just and good ruler, so he had to go. (Needless to say there were many other tangible reasons why his death was deemed good for others, this one offered the vaguest possible explanation )

I also remember checking the aspects on the said throning day, believe it was a Saturn square.
What I mean to say is: there was a time when astrology was 'officially' sound reasoning.

Mir, I will definitely let you know how this relationship progresses, or whether it does. Thank you so much for the insights you shared. It truly meant a lot during a very confusing and stressful time. Time will tell! Very glad if our correspondence refreshed or solidified your interest in progressions.

posted September 12, 2018 01:48 AM            

LOol yea.
Westran goes deeper into your question in his new book "A 22nd Century Science: How to Demonstrate that Astrology is True". I'm reading the first pages for free now but thinking about buying the Kindle Edition. Shall we read it together? I mean it might inspire me to not stop and your pSun is exactly trine my natal Venus at 29'53 Cancer + your pMoon on my nSun too!

posted September 12, 2018 02:11 AM            

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Mir, I will definitely let you know how this relationship progresses, or whether it does. Thank you so much for the insights you shared. It truly meant a lot during a very confusing and stressful time. Time will tell! Very glad if our correspondence refreshed or solidified your interest in progressions.

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