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sassaqua
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posted November 19, 2018 04:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's the whole chart.

We all know that.

But in each thread we cannot go into every detail otherwise we'd die of exhaustion.

Therefore, we speak generally.

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kani
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posted November 19, 2018 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:

And at the end of the day, monogamy is too cruel a rule for many men... Not saying they have the right to that, just saying that for most, it's too difficult


For most women as well. I know more women who cheat than men.

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posted November 19, 2018 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
Everybody is made for somebody

And as I said, having moon square venus isn't equal to being disloyal... There must be some other arrangements for these type of men or it can lead to cheating

It's simply because monogamy isn't for everyone

@ana_bee sorry if your thread got derailed and sorry to hear about your break up

Better opportunities will always arise


Other arrangements such as? Being with another woman is cheating no matter the arrangement.

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ana_bee
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posted November 19, 2018 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
I think you're better off without him despite all the romantic things he might have told you

A couple with opposing suns often have many ups and downs and dramas

On the other hand in the long run, people with sun signs next to one another often end up together

I know that's only “often" true, but since he has moon in cancer and he'd known this girl from the past, he may be feeling like like she's the one for him

Also men with moon square venus, their heart is always in two places, one with their lover, the other with the mother of their child!

And remember, cancer can be disloyal to family if they were hurt as a child

Having moon and AC in cancer doesn't mean that he's going to be with only one female

And at the end of the day, monogamy is too cruel a rule for many men... Not saying they have the right to that, just saying that for most, it's too difficult

At least he was honest with you and didn't go behind your back... So you can trust him to be a decent father to your child


Thanks for your answer.. but his Moon isn’t square Venus.. there’s no natal aspect. My Venus squares his Moon by 7degree.. his Venus trines my Moon also by 7degree.

But I understand the rest you were writing. His actions and opinions were ever changing and most of the time contradictory. I would always feel his inner conflict.

I definitely felt his Cancer Asc and Moon as something that made him yearn for a stable relationship and a family. That’s how I met him. This is what he showed me initially. But after a short amount of time he would always look at other women, although he initially treated me like some special prize he needed to win. It was a constant back and forth, through our whole relationship. It wasn’t just his fault of course. Things I said and did, made him also question my loyalty at times.. although I never strayed, not even mentally. He just often felt intimidated, he hated the fact that I had more sexual experience than him, he hated it when men looked at me. There was a possessive tendency in him, at other times though he was talking about having an open relationship.. that he didn’t believe in monogamy anyway etc. He had bad mood swings and I did, too.
But where I always kept communication open and wanted to talk things out, he retreated. It was hard to get straight answers from him. He would always leave me guessing. Hello natal Mercury square Neptune! There was a recent thread about that.. totally fits him! He’s not a liar, but his actions and words are deceptive in a way.
Then all those outer planets on his Dsc squaring his Venus and Mercury! He’s not a bad person. He just has major issues.

I feel better than the time I started this thread. I’m not hoping about getting together again! I know it wouldn’t work out, because despite all the changes through my pregnancy, we’re still the same people with the same issues. There needs to be a lot of maturation to happen..

Despite everything though, I still truly love him. I don’t know if that’s in anyway visible through our charts. We don’t have the classic Venus/Sun conj in composite that would indicate ‘true love’ or anything else.. I know our charts are rather mediocre. So of course there were and are times, where I question my feelings to him. Just to check, if I’m not running after a mirage..

But when I see him.. no matter how hurt or angry I am.. I feel deep compassion for him. Isn’t that love?
I’m just not sure, what he feels for me. I’m not sure if he mistreats me, because he has issues, or because he’s just not that much into me and never was.

It’s funny how I’ve had soo much better aspects with previous partners, but never got that hooked as I did on him.


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posted November 19, 2018 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here’s our synastry aspect list.
I’m on the horizontal line. (First person) He’s vertical.
I left out minor aspects for simplicity reasons.

We basically have no significant conjunctions in synastry. Maybe that’s why most of you said, that the chart doesn’t offer much. We have mostly oppositions and trines. To be fair, there are not many ‘red flag’ aspects either. (as far as I can see)
The biggest issue is probably his mars square my moon and my Saturn square his Sun and my Pluto his Moon, although wide.

I feel the mars/moon square quite intensely. He would always shake me up. I was on a constant emotional roller coaster when with him. Because I’m naturally emotionally not the most stable person, this compromised my general well-being a lot.
On the other hand I can imagine that he felt restricted around me, at times. My Saturn conj his Vertex and square his Nodes! Maybe he will eventually mature through his association with me, but my own issues and insecurities don’t mesh well with his life purpose.(?)
His NN in Aqua 9th house. He needs to develop a less conventional world view. My IC is directly conj his NN.. I help him to move forward, but because of Saturn, it’s not without struggle.

His Vertex opposes my NN! I don’t know what that means, if it’s significant or not. But it seems that I’m more involved in his development, than he is in mine. My NN is in 7th house Taurus. I need stable relationships, where I still remain my own person with my own values, without merging with my partner too much. That’s always been a major struggle for me. I form relationships pretty easily, but I loose myself in the process. My relationships are always rather volatile, very passionate but also nerve wrecking. He didn’t help me much on this one.

Other than that I feel there is a basic compatibility. Yes our suns are opposite, but don’t opposites attract? Although there is no Sun/Moon Connection by aspect, we still relate by element. (I don’t know if that counts much) His Moon in Cancer and my Sun in Pisces. Also we have a DW with Sun trine Asc, and our Asc’s trine, too!!

We have favorable Saturn aspects to our luminaries.
Since his DSC is in Capricorn, I can imagine that he’s not put off by my Saturn influence on him. My Sun also conj his MC .. this would be his secondary Asc.

He is a very earthy type and his Sun is in Virgo, which works well with my DSC in Taurus.. because I need someone who’s more connected to the material world.

My Asc conj his Eros in 5th house, his Venus conj my Juno.

But maybe we’re both looking for the same thing. I need a stable partner, and he needs a less emotional partner. We’re both in need of the same thing, therefor can’t give it to each other. I don’t know if my assumption is correct..

So much for self analysis on a rainy day.

If anyone’s bored, and notices something I haven’t mentioned.. please feel free to leave your opinions..

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posted November 19, 2018 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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athenaia
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posted November 27, 2018 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going to amend my previous position on the NN conjunct IC synastry aspect. The person I have this with reconciled our relationship. I think it's a very powerful aspect.

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LaceyLeigh
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posted November 28, 2018 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do believe he will eventually get bored of this girl. They are basically the same person, born a few days apart. Too similar. Whether he will come back to you, I’m not sure. Judging by his behavior, I think he might have already been looking for a way out.

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posted November 28, 2018 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ugh what a a**hole. I’m sorry. I really am. I’ve been cheated on and left for an ex as well and it was so hurtful and confusing and painful. And while you don’t see it now you will see why it didn’t work out later on. You’ll see why he wasn’t the one for you and you’ll be happier because something else so much better has come along.

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Randall
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posted December 02, 2018 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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posted December 11, 2018 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenaia:
I'm going to amend my previous position on the NN conjunct IC synastry aspect. The person I have this with reconciled our relationship. I think it's a very powerful aspect.

Thank you for this update Athenaia! Please keep us updated how it works out between you both!
We’re also getting closer btw
He’s keeping in touch very regularly, and is looking forward to our daughter. Last week he finished the baby room with me and stayed over night! This week we went on a ‘date’. A major milestone when I think back to his initial reaction to the pregnancy news. I will keep the distance after all that’s happened.. I’m afraid to get my hopes up again.. he proved too many times how unreliable he is, but it still feels good, to get appreciation and closure. Our story isn’t over yet.
I also think it’s a powerful aspect.

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posted December 11, 2018 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ana_bee:
Thank you for this update Athenaia! Please keep us updated how it works out between you both!
We’re also getting closer btw
He’s keeping in touch very regularly, and is looking forward to our daughter. Last week he finished the baby room with me and stayed over night! This week we went on a ‘date’. A major milestone when I think back to his initial reaction to the pregnancy news. I will keep the distance after all that’s happened.. I’m afraid to get my hopes up again.. he proved too many times how unreliable he is, but it still feels good, to get appreciation and closure. Our story isn’t over yet.
I also think it’s a powerful aspect.


You are right to keep your distance don't go too fast with him. I hope he does the right thing for his daughters sake.

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posted December 11, 2018 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenaia:
I'm going to amend my previous position on the NN conjunct IC synastry aspect. The person I have this with reconciled our relationship. I think it's a very powerful aspect.

Tell us more anthenaia; who is who?

ana_bee, this is great news. Doing the baby room together is adorable.

Without looking at charts I got the sense that he freaked for a minute but would return. I have no idea why I was thinking this.

If he's going to come back make sure he knows the rules. I hope he hasn't started habits and thinking he can come and go as he pleases and have girls everywhere.

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