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LunaIscariot
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posted November 30, 2018 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, It sounds like there are some cultural obligations going on, and him wanting to keep the baby doesn’t mean he loves her or is really interested in commitment per say, like he has a Pisces moon and probably a lot of empathy and just doesn’t believe in abortion lol. He also had a lot of Capricorn. So he has a sense of responsibility, duty, obligation etc. and is the type most likely to follow societal norms or what he thinks he should do, not our of love but duty.

But I stand by my analysis 100 percent, I wrote all that before having any backstory or knowing what your friend said about “lots of differences between them and she says he doesn’t love her” which you only wrote on your other thread today. So I was right, and I believe her. It shows in the charts, its all here. She’s saying that for a reason, because it’s true.

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posted November 30, 2018 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
But you said in the other thread she thinks he doesn’t love her? and I would 100 agree with that, it shows in the charts...

Ya, she says that but I don't believe that he sees her as a "fling", at least not based on my observation. He fetches her around, always texting her even while she's overseas, very clingy. Also he proposed marriage to her when they moved in tog, but she was the one who rejected.

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posted November 30, 2018 06:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ˆˆBtw, curious what will be his ideal type? Someone with stronger water/earth?

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posted December 01, 2018 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of my friends pointed out that my pluto conjuncts her sun and opposes her moon. He said she might perceive me as having power over her and even find me intimidating on some level. Thoughts? Have any women had a man's pluto touching your sun and moon? How did it feel for you?

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posted December 01, 2018 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
One of my friends pointed out that my pluto conjuncts her sun and opposes her moon. He said she might perceive me as having power over her and even find me intimidating on some level. Thoughts? Have any women had a man's pluto touching your sun and moon? How did it feel for you?

I've experienced his Pluto square my Moon. I felt emotionally controlled by him and he was very cruel to my feelings. I think the opposition will keep swinging between good & bad.

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posted December 01, 2018 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 01, 2018 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Nope, its more complicated then that
She has Sun in scorpio and moon in Taurus.

Which means, EVERYONE she meets and interacts with and are from the same generation as she is will have their Pluto on her Sun and opposite her Moon. Now her own pluto is not in scorpio though.

Pluto spends around 21-31 years in the same sign, so yeah almost everyone she knows near her age should have their pluto on her sun n aspecting more or less, her moon, so you are not special on that regards, sorry


I have Sun in Taurus myself, opposite Pluto.

So my sun is aspecting the Pluto of everyone I meet from my generation.


It is an energy she is used to. It roughly means, she often has power struggles with people she meet from her generation. It also means, she shines her sun on pluto in scorpio people, meaning she is shining her sun on your pluto.


This can at first feel very exciting and thrilling for the pluto person, but after the initial phases, the pluto person will start to feel vulnurable, exposed and uncomfy with the person who shines their sun on their pluto. Especially if it is love related emotions involved.

Sun will light up all the darkest places in pluto. All the fears, anxieties, all the unprocessed feelings and thoughts and psychological problems, everything you wanna keep mysteriuos or hidden will be lit up by the sun person, mercilessly. The sunlight do not discriminate between anything, it will expose it all. This can either heal you (if you let it) or cause power strruggles.

Also sun is very powerful, dominant and strong planet, pluto is the same. Putting two strong, powerful dominant planets, where one represents darkness, and one, light, will cause power games, and also have tremendous effects and outcome for both.

Often the pluto person, will if he/or she is open to it, start to face his/her fears and problems etc, and with time the person will "transform" to her/himself to the better.

In short, pluto-sun will cause for a battle scene, where you both go to battle bringing your own bagage to the battle. And either you will fight on this battle field and kill each other (the relationship) and resent each other.

Or you will process your problems through each other, heal each other, and create a strong bond.

After that one either leaves the relationship, after lessons learned, about oneself. Or one can bond and stay together for years... it depends on many other factors.

And there is also that moon on moon sandwiched between sun-pluto thing, that one is more interesting I reccon...

However, there is many great articles and youtube videos about pluto-sun-moon synastry, so google it!



First of all,
We are 7, almost 8, years apart in age. So, you think it is common for someone to meet someone else who has their pluto closely conjunct their sun and opposite their moon? We aren't just talking about pluto aspects, we are talking about close conjunctions and other aspects. No, not every Scorpio person born in the '80s or '90s has a close sun/pluto conjunction with everyone they meet from their generation. That is a pretty big oversimplification. And the same goes for moon in taurus.

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posted December 01, 2018 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your tone sounds rude. I feel bad about taking the time to write as long as I did :/

and its not my own interpretations, its whats said by other astrologers about "generational planets".

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posted December 01, 2018 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Melinn:
Your tone sounds rude. I feel bad about taking the time to write as long as I did :/

and its not my own interpretations, its whats said by other astrologers about "generational planets".



My tone sounds rude? You are the one who made it a point to say "sorry you arent special" with a tongue sticking out smiley. You came across as very flippant. I never claimed to be special. Lol

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posted December 01, 2018 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol ok if you say so. just because I said its generational does not mean you are not special, but if you interpretend it as that?

I shared loads of information about sun-pluto dynamics but you comment by being this way instead

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posted December 01, 2018 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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lol ok if you say so. just because I said its generational does not mean you are not special, but if you interpretend it as that?

I shared loads of information about sun-pluto dynamics but you comment by being this way instead


Those were your exact words, not mine. Ugh, I'm not going to play these mind games.

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posted December 05, 2018 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 05, 2018 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I went on a date with another girl tonight. On paper (synastry), we were way more compatible than I am with the girl I'm talking about in this thread. However, I didn't feel anything with her and found her to be rude and selfish. I've decided to follow my heart. I'm going to ask my girl out and tell her that I'm perfectly fine with being friends if she isn't interested.

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posted December 05, 2018 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is usually the way that the conflict and the tension within the synastry is more of an attractive force than synastry that brings less or no tension.

But given how long you have been on LL, you likely know this already. As it is fairly common knowledge.

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posted December 05, 2018 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sassaqua:
It is usually the way that the conflict and the tension within the synastry is more of an attractive force than synastry that brings less or no tension.

But given how long you have been on LL, you likely know this already. As it is fairly common knowledge.


Yea, but the thing is me and her have a very harmonious and sweet connection for the most part. We see other every day and we always get along.

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posted December 05, 2018 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure who you are talking about now.

If you want people to actually provide astrological views, maybe post the charts?

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posted December 05, 2018 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sassaqua:
I'm not sure who you are talking about now.

If you want people to actually provide astrological views, maybe post the charts?


Sorry if I wasn't clear? I was referring to the fact that I feel much more connected to the girl I originally posted this thread for, despite the fact that I went on a date with a girl who I have way better synastry with tonight.

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posted December 05, 2018 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No you were fine. Just, I am reading many posts, and have a lot of tabs open, and also I am writing articles myself.

We really just skim through posts don't we? Anyhow, post the charts. Or not. Please yourself.

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posted December 05, 2018 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sassaqua:
No you were fine. Just, I am reading many posts, and have a lot of tabs open, and also I am writing articles myself.

We really just skim through posts don't we? Anyhow, post the charts. Or not. Please yourself.



The synastry is in the original post. There is a link.

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posted December 06, 2018 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:

First of all,
We are 7, almost 8, years apart in age. So, you think it is common for someone to meet someone else who has their pluto closely conjunct their sun and opposite their moon? We aren't just talking about pluto aspects, we are talking about close conjunctions and other aspects. No, not every Scorpio person born in the '80s or '90s has a close sun/pluto conjunction with everyone they meet from their generation. That is a pretty big oversimplification. And the same goes for moon in taurus.

Yes you're right it is significant because it's close and you have an age gap, which means she doesn't really have the aspect natally. My bf and I have my Pluto opposite his Sun exactly and are 8.5 years apart, and he doesn't have this aspect with anyone else he knows because he doesn't know people my age. Lol

I myself have had many experiences with people born in 1986-1987 with their Pluto on my Venus-IC and it's always intense!!! Because I do not have it natally and didn't grow up knowing people 8+ years older than me.

So she will have that aspect with people born in a certain year but not everyone she grew up with, etc. And it is definitely noticeable.

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posted December 20, 2018 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Update:
The semester ended almost two weeks ago and nothing ever really happened with that girl.

We saw each other basically every day for a few months and it often seemed like we were right on the verge of being something. It felt so close a few times. We were right there. There were at least half a dozen occasions where I was on the verge of asking her out. The words were right on the tip of my tongue. Then the next time I saw her she would be in a bad mood or there would be some sort of other barrier to keep me from making the move.

The last time I saw her happened by complete chance. I was sitting on a bench lost in deep thought when I heard a voice say my name. I looked up and it was her. This threw me out of whack because it was on the opposite side of campus from where we normally meet and I wasnt expecting to run into her. She started a conversation and we talked about exams and so on. She kept lingering as if she was waiting for me to say something, but I just told her to have a nice weekend and let her walk away. I didn't know that would be the last time I would see her before next semester.

That kind of sums us up. It was just never the right time.

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posted December 20, 2018 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Update:
The semester ended almost two weeks ago and nothing ever really happened with that girl.

We saw each other basically every day for a few months and it often seemed like we were right on the verge of being something. It felt so close a few times. We were right there. There were at least half a dozen occasions where I was on the verge of asking her out. The words were right on the tip of my tongue. Then the next time I saw her she would be in a bad mood or there would be some sort of other barrier to keep me from making the move.

The last time I saw her happened by complete chance. I was sitting on a bench lost in deep thought when I heard a voice say my name. I looked up and it was her. This threw me out of whack because it was on the opposite side of campus from where we normally meet and I wasnt expecting to run into her. She started a conversation and we talked about exams and so on. She kept lingering as if she was waiting for me to say something, but I just told her to have a nice weekend and let her walk away. I didn't know that would be the last time I would see her before next semester.

That kind of sums us up. It was just never the right time.


Well I really believe everything happens for a reason, and something whether conscious or not (or nerves maybe?) is holding you back from pursuing a relationship with her, now and up until now. I would like to think that if you really felt that strongly about her you would just swallow your pride/fear/nerves/whatever it is and just go for it. It seems complacent to say "oh well see her next semester" instead of...oh crap, I should have said something, I'm going to call/text/write/send pigeon mail so we can hang out again and I can tell her how I feel.

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posted December 20, 2018 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by margym0o:
Well I really believe everything happens for a reason, and something whether conscious or not (or nerves maybe?) is holding you back from pursuing a relationship with her, now and up until now. I would like to think that if you really felt that strongly about her you would just swallow your pride/fear/nerves/whatever it is and just go for it. It seems complacent to say "oh well see her next semester" instead of...oh crap, I should have said something, I'm going to call/text/write/send pigeon mail so we can hang out again and I can tell her how I feel.

Nerves are only a small part of it. There was just never a good time to make a move. Every single time I wanted to do it something got in the way.

Also, I reached out to her
on facebook right after the semester ended and we had a short conversation, but she quit responding and never read my latest message. By her own admission, she "sucks at responding to messages and texts." She even once said she usually doesnt respond to guys because she doesn't know what to say.

We both have issues. That is clear. She is shy and awkward. That doesn't excuse her from all responsibility. She has to meet me halfway. I am not going to chase anyone, even if I really really like them. I sent a message. That is a move. The ball is in her court now.

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posted December 24, 2018 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 19, 2019 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Update:
I just ran into her for the first time this semester on Valentine's Day of all days. She gave me candy under the guise that she didn't need to eat it all herself, told me she had missed me, and joked that she thought I had been hiding from her. She also complimented my new hair and goatee.
Then I saw her again today and she said "feel how cold my hand is" and touched my hand. We talked for a bit and then she mentioned that she will be running a half marathon in the spring and asked if I would come support her. I am definitely getting a vibe that she has real interest in me.

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