posted December 12, 2018 03:17 PM            

How are you ??

Yes, interesting what Todd says. Using midpoints as well..

Still choofing along here.. #1s going cold, but, we still text. I wonder if things are actually stabilising and not going cold? We did have some fighting in the week (so strange, hey?). It is me that initiates texting though. I don't really give him a chance actually. This - quiet relationship in my head that makes no demands on me, is a simple exchange without opinions on the world, politics, etc.. is appealing. It feels intimate with all that 12H, and compatible with my own 12H placements. He's in my head and close but without the reality. I know how dumb that sounds ok, but it's soothing for me no matter the reality

#2 is all in! Funny, he's like me now and how I am with #1 - he double texts me, and then can call out of the blue! But I don't call out of the blue to people nor answer the phone. Guess his Pluto trine my Venus is kicking in for him . Oh - just noticed - his Sun (and Ceres) is on my IC, which is the same as my Sun with #1s chart. We met for a drink last weekend and it was dynamic! He has a lot to say. We both have a common background in graphic design and photography too. He's fairly well informed, and a broad and creative thinker - so am I. We both have a lot to say, we have a lot of opinions on everything! We have so many squares.. and he is pressing my "know-it-all" buttons (I have at least two).

It will be a great opportunity to really feel the difference with all those squares. I am going to meet him down the beach where he will be camping over summer with his daughter. There are a very many attractive things about him. He himself is attractive too, very manly but also a bit of boy-mischievousness. He has spunk and is playful too. I can see that he will bring a lot.. but I am scared of all those squares it's true. I have issues.

I'm meeting #4 probably on the weekend - he will be my astrological twin. He's one of those marathon guys.. always training. It's ok, because I'm pretty active too. And he's a vet (what I wanted to be growing up) so a good brain as well. And a complimentary field to what I currently study so it's supportive.

#3 wrote me a message (on the chat platform) but he didn't ask me any questions in return. I haven't responded back to him yet.

I've got my work cut out for me then! I'm comparing squares, comparing synastry and composites.. And maybe dealing with my own issues around squares? Or revisiting my threshold? We'll see. As well as studying my astrological twin. Cannot wait to try guess his Moon and pin-point his actual date

I'm telling everyone I'm going slow. I'm taking my time.. Maybe I can keep them all because they've all got good things? I can never choose: a terrible habit of mine that I still haven't changed. It's my Libra Moon/Venus square and square my 7H I think.

What about you? I'll go ask on your thread ok

posted December 12, 2018 05:35 PM            

Maybe we need the squares? Maybe they're not so bad???? I will be curious to hear about your astro twin. I have never met one of mine. I feel like I would annoy me!

I really like the potential with the vet guy. Commonalities and things to enjoy together.

posted December 14, 2018 08:38 PM            

Astro twin is already annoying me - he's too up himself! I'm joking. We will meet up, yes

#2 may have gone? Or, he's disciplining me

He's tried a couple of times to random call me. I didn't take the calls, but did text him right after that I was on the way out and would be free "tonight" if he wants to chat. Think that was Monday (Sat now), I haven't heard since.

I am expecting too many squares in our synastry with #2. Though I am happy to explore.

I've moved on from #1. I think 6 months was enough. I learned a lot from that.

#2 if you remember has Moon square Mars and Venus square Saturn. Here's some interps.

Moon Square Mars
"You can be self-centered, intent on pursuing your way irrespective of the impact it has on others. Sometimes you use Martian energies aggressively to gain your way, refusing adjustments and compromises with others, demanding that they appease your will and needs while denying any validity to theirs. Often instincts and emotional needs clash with your will for action, and you may feel confused regarding which to choose. This inability to know which way to turn increases frustration. Men may try to be too forceful and aggressive with women, playing a 'macho' role without much understanding and sensitivity to the female temperament, oppressing through asserting raw power without sympathy, and overidentifying with the Mars energy and denying the Moon"

posted December 14, 2018 10:58 PM            

Sorry, I may have misunderstood?

Are you looking to read my synastry?

posted December 15, 2018 05:41 PM            

#2 seems to either be pissy or have bad manners... that's a bummer!

posted December 15, 2018 05:52 PM            

There's such a range of people to adapt to in the dating world.

#2 has pursued me for nearly 2 years? Well, we were in contact, he went away. Now in contact again and he waited near 4 months for me to be ready. Now he's gone again.

I have #3 and #4 left. It gets tiring for sure and can really rattle me because of the vulnerability and adjusting to each person.

posted December 16, 2018 06:11 PM            

#3 is astro twin and you have a date. #4 is the one who talks to you but doesn't ask questions?

posted December 16, 2018 07:04 PM            

I think all of what you say is essentially true.

No, he wouldn't know what to make of the attraction and it's probably exciting and invigorating. At his age, and with the squares AND the Aries Moon, I'm sure he's excited to find someone just as dynamic to play with (most people being stuck in boring 9-5 routines). Also, someone younger that he can get-off on having the challenge of acquiring. And maybe too prove that he's still got it (Aries!!)

It's the Pluto (trine my Venus) I suspect for the attraction pull. I've just come from the same with #1 and remember the feeling well. But there might be more there. Yes, the synastry Moon's opposite is nothing to sneeze at. But then our whole synastry is dripping blood-RED with challenge and tension.

I don't feel that it's a push/pull power manipulation (like with #1). I abhor that Pluto/Scorpio stuff btw because it drowns me every time and I lose.

So far, I think I sense that he is struggling with himself and how he will handle things - this time. With this person (me). I sense that he is aware of "how he can be"? He's perhaps had feedback on this in his life? And those squares don't let people give up on their issues, hey. Each time, each interaction, is a new opportunity to resolve the self. For some people anyhow.

He double texts when he texts. It's often a stream of texts. I think that I can sense his anxiety (attachment issues - finding the balance between too pushy because of neediness). He has the same squares as your guy!! You realised this, yes?

Last night he began texting (so .. he has learned I wont take a cold call, lol), then he calls! Which I did take. Long conversation about his fish poacher Christmas present from his sister and whether I'd know what to do with it. Lol.. All in good humour. Also some information about his caravan that he's doing up.. and.. actually - goodness me - many, many, other topics.

He IS very dynamic. And I can see how watching him (anyone) struggle through his squares could be endearing. It's brave and admirable really when thinking of it from a human spirit perspective: watching the human behind come up with creative and ideally honorable and functional ways in their lives to manage their personal tension. Some of us get a harder hand (astro template) in life to deal with.

I also had some strange texts from a past dating site person.. we've been in touch for some years on and off. It got me thinking about what happens to men after a certain age.. Think they all go a bit wacko.

#3 is the lawn guy (another Sag) and #4 is astro twin.

This weekend past I felt glum about #1 and some withdrawals. I pondered on Chrion, and also the gentle Venus trine Moon, and the serenity of the 12H.

I also pondered on planets that are badly aspected, or not at all aspected, and what it means for the house that those planets rule. I found nothing on the net though.

posted December 17, 2018 01:24 PM            

You said on the other thread about #1's Chiron opposing your Pluto. I am thinking you wouldn't "lose" this time. Or that you aren't, because you are already walking away and claiming your assertiveness and needs up front.

I hadn't internalized #2 had the same squares as my guy! At the moment I am not seeing his squares, but I liked your comment about squares don't let people give up. As Saturn people, I imagine you and I both find that admirable. Used properly, that is, we would admire this quality in them.

Does it not feel like Mercury retrograde to you???? A return from the past... I have had horrible tech issues and so has everyone around me. What is going on in the astro world????

posted December 17, 2018 05:11 PM            

Hopefully next time I come across an intriguing chart such as #1's, I'll remember this theory and also act on it leaving all "neediness" aside. Ie, give them almost nothing is the idea. Men are not women.

But what WAS validating about #2's return was that it proved exactly this theory (no interest = more interest)! I will concede though that yeah.. it was more healthy for my ego that he came back (good for my needy t-square).

#1: It's just that with Plutonians, they seem to get some satisfaction that they have taken something from you. It happens time and time again for me. I have TPluto on my ascendant and I have had some horrific Pluto-esk scenarios for nearly a decade. Not this time, no no. I'm learning.

I cannot answer much about #1 dynamics further. Because unfortunately was only by phone and I cannot take an assessment I'd be happy with. From here, I can only note chart patterns and what might've been. Yes, maybe those oppositions would've swapped, and transposed to one outer planet more than the other. Shame, I'll never know!

You said: "your comment about squares don't let people give up"
I need to correct StoneMoon: apologies, I was somehow thinking that #2 had a lot of squares in his natal chart having not looked much at it, and I was referring to this by mistake. But he actually doesn't looking at it just now.

Yet, still, the squares that he does have may still be strong drivers for his seemingly "dynamic" nature.

I agree with:
"I imagine you and I both find that admirable."

And I agree even more definitely with:
"Used properly, that is, we would admire this quality in them." - yes - used PROPERLY. I'm losing faith that anyone does though. I mean, I'm not being arrogant but rather, objective - can you imagine how much further in self development we are with the tool of astrology? Unfortunately it has un-leveled the playing field.

Anyhow.. just my rambling thoughts really.

posted December 19, 2018 05:30 PM            

synastry and astrology is a double edged sword. On paper it looks ideal or not ideal, it looks a little straightforward. But in life, it is so far from straightforward. We don't exactly know how it will play out or which of the twenty different directions it will actually go.

I am constantly (and pleasantly) surprised at how the astrology of a person really plays out. Pleasantly, because it reminds me that nothing is black and white, nothing is written in stone. And I like that because it reminds me I am not written in stone either. I like free will.

My guy, well, I have to update on my thread I guess. Astrology is definitely playing out. Funny how that goes.

posted December 19, 2018 08:25 PM            

I'm at a time in my life where I am making a strong effort to settle again. It's why I have so many going at the moment. I just picked up another one! A Leo (how strange for me) but he's the same age as my Leo best friend which means he'll have a Libra Venus (on my Moon). But a Virgo Mercury (lol). And, I have come to think that south node contacts at a more mature age are ok (my SN is Leo).

We have quite a lot of activities in common.. AND, I may get a Venus conjunct Moon this time. Which trumps a trine (what I had with #1) for sure. And, both having Saturn square Suns is comforting.

I love how tidy and quantified I keep my dating life options. It makes me feel safe.

posted December 20, 2018 06:30 AM            

Do you know his actual bday yet or just that he is a Leo? I love the Venus Moon, especially in Libra. This will be so good for you! And its an energy you already know.