posted March 14, 2019 11:36 AM            

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Originally posted by vansio:
Synastry is more important regarding this.

For lasting based in the Composite, Sun-Moon positive aspect.

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posted March 15, 2019 05:59 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
what about Sun trine Moon in the composite chart?

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Sun trine Moon is a very good aspect to have in composite. It shows a couple who intrinsically understands and accepts each other as who they are, and they perhaps share the same values. It's even better if you add Venus into the mix, like Venus conjunct Sun.

posted March 15, 2019 10:06 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
For the relationship to actually last?

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There is no answer to this question.

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Well how many in the synastry?

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posted March 15, 2019 12:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
This isn't how astrology works. Not everyone is going to like a conjunction, and not all conjunctions are equal.

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posted March 15, 2019 02:42 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Ok I am asking because some people say it's important to have several conjunctions in a composite or synastry chart.

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posted March 16, 2019 05:48 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Ok I am asking because some people say it's important to have several conjunctions in a composite or synastry chart.

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In a composite, conjunctions & oppositions are important. When you see a composite with lotsa conj/opp, it shows an important r/s to the people involved but the definition of "important" is subjective here. Some use marriage as an indicator but I've a different opinion. For many people, their deepest, most impactful relationships did not end in marriage and for many others, they didn't marry the one they love most or suit them most even. Yet there are also people who went through very short marriages...

Sorry, I digressed...

Anyway, conjunctions in composite don't guarantee r/s longevity, e.g. if you have an outer planet (e.g. Saturn) square/oppose the stellium, it will alter all those nice energies you have and depending on the people involved, some cannot withstand the affliction.

I know some say we want at least ONE conjunction in composite but IMO, if you have a chart full of squares, ONE conjunction is not gonna do much so you really wanna see the more the merrier and pray hard the stellium is not afflicted.

posted March 16, 2019 06:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
In a composite, conjunctions & oppositions are important. When you see a composite with lotsa conj/opp, it shows an important r/s to the people involved but the definition of "important" is subjective here. Some use marriage as an indicator but I've a different opinion. For many people, their deepest, most impactful relationships did not end in marriage and for many others, they didn't marry the one they love most or suit them most even. Yet there are also people who went through very short marriages...

Sorry, I digressed...

Anyway, conjunctions in composite don't guarantee r/s longevity, e.g. if you have an outer planet (e.g. Saturn) square/oppose the stellium, it will alter all those nice energies you have and depending on the people involved, some cannot withstand the affliction.

I know some say we want at least ONE conjunction in composite but IMO, if you have a chart full of squares, ONE conjunction is not gonna do much so you really wanna see the more the merrier and pray hard the stellium is not afflicted.

As for synastry, I've seen two schools of thoughts. One says we need conjunctions; another says trines/sextiles are best because conjunction energy can go either way which I tend to agree. So IMO, you don't need a lot of conjunctions in synastry other than to angles & nodes.

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posted March 17, 2019 07:05 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
But what if there aren’t many squares? And some composite charts don’t have stelliums. Are minor aspects relevant in a synastry or composite chart?

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There are composites w/o stelliums but with nice pattern formations like grand trines/kites/mystic rectangles, etc and these work too. It shows harmonious flow of energies. And if you see formations, there are definitely trines/sextiles/squares/oppositions involved. Quincunxes to form YoDs.

Like Luna said before, it's not rare to find conjunction/opposition in a Composite. There is usually at least one, but if you want a really strong r/s that can withstand storms then you would obviously want to have as many positive aspects (conjunction/opposition being the strongest) as possible, so you have to weigh the whole chart. If you have more negative than positive aspects, then you know this is not gonna be an easy r/s.

posted March 17, 2019 08:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
There are composites w/o stelliums but with nice pattern formations like grand trines/kites/mystic rectangles, etc and these work too. It shows harmonious flow of energies. And if you see formations, there are definitely trines/sextiles/squares/oppositions involved. Quincunxes to form YoDs.

Like Luna said before, it's not rare to find conjunction/opposition in a Composite. There is usually at least one, but if you want a really strong r/s that can withstand storms then you would obviously want to have as many positive aspects (conjunction/opposition being the strongest) as possible, so you have to weigh the whole chart. If you have more negative than positive aspects, then you know this is not gonna be an easy r/s.

Minor aspects do count, of course. It's not that they're not important, it's that their energies are weaker so sometimes people don't feel them so they're not pushed to act (referring to synastry here). I think of minor aspects as side dishes while the major aspects are the staple.

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posted March 17, 2019 09:19 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I understand but for example with this composite I don’t have a lot of conjunctions. But we do have some easy aspects. I know the oppositions from the outer planets to Mars can be problematic.

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Maybe you can post the chart because I don't know what exactly you're asking. You did say you have conjunctions although not a lot (and you don't need a lot) + some easy aspects. Isn't that good? Opposition is good as well like Jupiter opposite Venus, Sun opposite Venus, etc.

Mars is always tricky. Some people pronounce death when they see Mars in harsh aspects to outer planets but that's not what I've seen. My parents have Sun/Mars square Uranus. My brother & sis-in-law have Neptune square Mars. No instability.. no cheating.. aspects play out in different ways for different people.

posted March 17, 2019 09:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Maybe you can post the chart because I don't know what exactly you're asking. You did say you have conjunctions although not a lot (and you don't need a lot) + some easy aspects. Isn't that good? Opposition is good as well like Jupiter opposite Venus, Sun opposite Venus, etc.

Mars is always tricky. Some people pronounce death when they see Mars in harsh aspects to outer planets but that's not what I've seen. My parents have Sun/Mars square Uranus. My brother & sis-in-law have Neptune square Mars. No instability.. no cheating.. aspects play out in different ways for different people.

One or two harsh aspects won't kill the relationship if overall the positives outweigh the negatives.

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posted March 17, 2019 10:35 AM            

Now I know why you're worried about Mars as it opposes Saturn/Uranus/Neptune (and Venus opp Pluto can cause selfishness & manipulation although it also creates intense feelings). Since Mars is in 11th house of friendship, social & individuality, I'm guessing the challenge will be in these areas where you have to learn to give each other freedom of expressions. My experience with composite Mars in 11th opp Uranus is it brings random groups of friends which I find disruptive and intrusive at times, and it also influences his behaviour like he behaves in an erratic manner due to these associations.

We also have composite Mars square Saturn but I don't find that a particularly difficult aspect if you can just learn to let each other be (perhaps because we both have Mars-Saturn aspect in natal). We sometimes dislike each other's behaviour but it was never something we can't talk it out. I don't find it a dealbreaker. Our inner planets are well-aspected so it really helps in communication and being sweet & caring.

posted March 17, 2019 11:27 AM            

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posted March 17, 2019 11:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
Good inner planet aspects, but not enough Saturn to deal with that Uranus.

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posted March 17, 2019 11:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
^ Well, you do have Sun conjunct Mercury. Sun trine Moon, Venus square Moon, Venus sextile Mars are also 👍 and there're other nice aspects like you mentioned.

Now I know why you're worried about Mars as it opposes Saturn/Uranus/Neptune (and Venus opp Pluto can cause selfishness & manipulation although it also creates intense feelings). Since Mars is in 11th house of friendship, social & individuality, I'm guessing the challenge will be in these areas where you have to learn to give each other freedom of expressions. My experience with composite Mars in 11th opp Uranus is it brings random groups of friends which I find disruptive and intrusive at times, and it also influences his behaviour like he behaves in an erratic manner due to these associations.

We also have composite Mars square Saturn but I don't find that a particularly difficult aspect if you can just learn to let each other be (perhaps because we both have Mars-Saturn aspect in natal). We sometimes dislike each other's behaviour but it was never something we can't talk it out. I don't find it a dealbreaker. Our inner planets are well-aspected so it really helps in communication and being sweet & caring.

How long have you known this guy and are you together already?

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posted March 17, 2019 01:25 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
@Hikaru29 I’m just saying if we were to ever get into a relationship would it actually work.

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Aspects manifest differently for different people, and of course friends and romantic couples are not gonna be the same, e.g. with friends I don't feel possessive or jealous but with someone I love I can be.

posted March 17, 2019 01:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Aspects manifest differently for different people, and of course friends and romantic couples are not gonna be the same, e.g. with friends I don't feel possessive or jealous but with someone I love I can be.

I don't exactly have issues with his friends either. We've composite Asc in Gemini so perhaps people see us as very outgoing and sociable so they don't see an issue "interrupting" us or dragging us through the whole night. I sometimes resent it and the fact that he doesn't know how to say no when we really wanna spend some alone time. We have a lot of comp planets in Cancer so all these disruptions don't vibe well with the Cancerian energy. I feel it especially while he seems more cool about it.

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posted March 18, 2019 07:05 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
So you don't feel that the two of you are outgoing as a couple? I know the ASC in a composite chart is how people see you as a couple.

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posted March 18, 2019 10:57 AM            

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We are but that's not my point. Being outgoing doesn't mean I like people to take up all our time. I feel that the disruptions is a Mars-Uranus kinda thing. Anyway, I don't believe Mars necessarily represent men. It just means an erratic energy in the relationship. He also feels insecure about me because I've so many male friends.

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posted March 18, 2019 01:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
^ Well, you do have Sun conjunct Mercury. Sun trine Moon, Venus square Moon, Venus sextile Mars are also 👍 and there're other nice aspects like you mentioned.

Now I know why you're worried about Mars as it opposes Saturn/Uranus/Neptune (and Venus opp Pluto can cause selfishness & manipulation although it also creates intense feelings). Since Mars is in 11th house of friendship, social & individuality, I'm guessing the challenge will be in these areas where you have to learn to give each other freedom of expressions. My experience with composite Mars in 11th opp Uranus is it brings random groups of friends which I find disruptive and intrusive at times, and it also influences his behaviour like he behaves in an erratic manner due to these associations.

We also have composite Mars square Saturn but I don't find that a particularly difficult aspect if you can just learn to let each other be (perhaps because we both have Mars-Saturn aspect in natal). We sometimes dislike each other's behaviour but it was never something we can't talk it out. I don't find it a dealbreaker. Our inner planets are well-aspected so it really helps in communication and being sweet & caring.

How long have you known this guy and are you together already?

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But wouldn’t Mars opposite Saturn be really challenging in the area of individual self-expression and sexuality? Especially since Saturn is in 5th house..
So either you guys have children, or this relationship would be a friendship-type of union, and sexually not very satisfying. The Uranus opposition makes it also quite erratic. Different timing. One is hot while the other’s not and vice versa. But generally the composite speaks of two people with ‘compatible personalities’. You should get along really well, there’s an easy flow of energy (sun/moon, venus/mars). I don’t know if there’s enough attraction though. But it depends on what you’re looking for in a r/s. My guess.

posted March 18, 2019 02:23 PM            

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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Ana; I had mars opp Saturn with my ex and we didn’t get along lol but we had no sexual issues at all. Quite the opposite. So I don’t think this aspect always means bad sex like some people think. I think for sex you have to look at the 8th house and 8th ruler and what aspects that’s making.
We would just not be able to DO things together that weren’t sex, like if we went out and did something we would end up fighting and getting mad at each other lol. Not liking or understanding each other’s behaviour like Hikaru said.
But we had mars and Saturn square the ASC and DSC axis in a grand square which I think made it way worse!
Also this aspect can show the male (or more masculine person in the connection) being cold, critical, aloof or distant or just retrained in his expression (like saturn). Or the male having external obstacles/problems (Saturn) that affect or that he brings to the relationship. Can show a guy with baggage.

And of course like I always tell people, composite doesn’t show attraction (that’s synasty!!!!!), composite is just the relationship itself and your dynamic together. Example: sun conjunct Venus; you will be harmonious towards each and its easier to get along. Sun square mars, you’ll bicker a lot. Sun conjunct Uranus: you’ll have an on and off relationship or break up a lot or a friends with benefits etc. It just shows the themes when you’re together. Doesn’t show how two people feel about each other that’s a huge stupid misconception. That’s why we have synasty for that.

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