posted December 18, 2019 04:01 AM            

Mars in Cap (12th)
square merc (3rd) and Uranus (9th)

Sex was never an issue at all in our relationship, he was very sexually turned on by me, me not so much, but we had it often, except for the last month not really.....we had a tonne of passion, very expressive, although he wasn't my ideal sexually so maybe that's it? I did hide that....hmmm

posted December 18, 2019 05:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
@Luna, what would you say of the composite 12H Sun? My friend has Natal Sun/Mercury in 12H and she seems to attract such relationships. With both her ex-husband and current boyfriend, they have 12H Sun, Mercury and Venus but Venus conjuncts ASC (Sun/Mercury don't). Both men also have natal 12H Sun/Mercury so it's like some karmic thing going on in her life.

There are many interpretations out there on composite 12H Sun and they all sound nebulous. I can't put them in tangible terms.

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I have a lot of experience with 12th house sun in composite, so I�m happy you asked and I�m glad to share,

The most common, is where the two people do drugs or drink together. Maybe not in the beginning, but eventually. Especially of both people have pisces, Neptune, 12th stuff going on in their natal this is almost always the case. If they didn�t ever try drugs, now with this person they will start, or start doing more etc. They will encourage each other�s self-undoing and self sabotaging (12th) usually through drugs/alcohol or escapist tendencies, but sometimes even in other ways. I�ve seen 12th house sun in a lot of co-dependent or unhealthy attached relationships, where one party makes too many excuses for the partner, sacrifices their own needs, family/friends etc. for the relationship, or is even in denial about the reality of their relationship (not wanting to accept that it�s toxic or unhealthy). Lacking self awareness is very 12th house.
The relationship being hidden or secret at first is very common too. So is people not agreeing or liking the two people together, I don�t know why exactly. But it�s a strong recurrent theme worth noting. I think it plays into the self undoing theme of the 12th and lack of awareness, where everyone else can see the relationship isn�t good but the people themselves don�t see it (Neptune lol) and the relationship is all fantasy and illusion.
The whole �he beats me cuz he loves me� thing is VERY sun in the 12th. Delusional, not based in reality and clouded/skewed judgement is all very 12th house. And the sacrificial thing I see a lot too. Or feeling sorry for the partner, being too forgiving. Basically, a sacrifice is usually required in order to be in the relationship for one or both parties. For example, sun in 12th can show up as an affair, sacrificing your reputation and the approval of others and being judged to pursue the relationship anyway. In these types of relationship, there�s always a loss in some way. (12th house is the house of losses).
And lastly, imbalance. One person is usually doing more, or getting the short end of the stick. Having to clean up the others mess, take the brunt of the relationship in some way. DRAINING relationship is another good key word.

posted December 18, 2019 05:18 AM            

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Originally posted by starstruck1:
I have had this in my last relationship - a decade long very loving one that basically ran its course....we're still mates.

Mars in Cap (12th)
square merc (3rd) and Uranus (9th)

Sex was never an issue at all in our relationship, he was very sexually turned on by me, me not so much, but we had it often, except for the last month not really.....we had a tonne of passion, very expressive, although he wasn't my ideal sexually so maybe that's it? I did hide that....hmmm

I kinda feel it was 'anger and arguments' as the issue with this mars placement...the squares back up that story and unfortunately this very issue was our undoing. Fierce arguments, ugly....communication was fraught at times.

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Thanks for sharing yes. Lack of sexual satisfaction in at least one party is very very common.
But mars rules other things besides sex, like ego drive, how you express anger, actions. And in the 12th, resentment is common because the anger is usually repressed and kept hidden. The two people will tend to be passive aggressive and not be forthcoming when they are upset or sweep things under the rug, and it just builds.

posted December 18, 2019 05:23 AM            

I think people have a misconception of what tantric sex is, a deeper etheric undertone that�s confused in the public for extreme orgasmic bliss. It�s quite careful and almost methodical in nature, with prolonged eye contact/climax. Sometimes no discharge at all, just the relaxed activity, a grand meditation if you will. Transcends lust and would bore the ego to death.

I wasn�t being misleading when I promoted the sexual concept by this house position and met with intrigue but confusion of the practice to begin with, but then again, we�re all on different wavelengths of what constitutes or consummates desire and satisfaction, or transmutes aggression.

My SN and PoF are in my 12th so

And I wasn�t a virgin by any stretch of the imagination before him

posted December 18, 2019 07:05 AM            

I can't say though I really ever felt the doom and gloom many say happens with 12th house couples - in fact the relationship felt very spirtuality enlightening. The sex was one of the most heightened parts of our relationship, we would often have sex for 6/7 hours. So I cant say that mars affected us in that way. It was the most healing and blinding sex I've experienced with anyone.

However our relationship did begin in secret so that I can attest to that being true..

I think composite 12th houses are challenging - not as bad as people say but so much of it depends on the rest of the chart and the two people within the relationship. From my own experience I found the relationship to be highly healing, spiritual and intense. There was a lot of support, love and growth.

posted December 18, 2019 01:41 PM            

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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
I have a lot of experience with 12th house sun in composite, so I�m happy you asked and I�m glad to share,

The most common, is where the two people do drugs or drink together. Maybe not in the beginning, but eventually. Especially of both people have pisces, Neptune, 12th stuff going on in their natal this is almost always the case. If they didn�t ever try drugs, now with this person they will start, or start doing more etc. They will encourage each other�s self-undoing and self sabotaging (12th) usually through drugs/alcohol or escapist tendencies, but sometimes even in other ways. I�ve seen 12th house sun in a lot of co-dependent or unhealthy attached relationships, where one party makes too many excuses for the partner, sacrifices their own needs, family/friends etc. for the relationship, or is even in denial about the reality of their relationship (not wanting to accept that it�s toxic or unhealthy). Lacking self awareness is very 12th house.
The relationship being hidden or secret at first is very common too. So is people not agreeing or liking the two people together, I don�t know why exactly. But it�s a strong recurrent theme worth noting. I think it plays into the self undoing theme of the 12th and lack of awareness, where everyone else can see the relationship isn�t good but the people themselves don�t see it (Neptune lol) and the relationship is all fantasy and illusion.
The whole �he beats me cuz he loves me� thing is VERY sun in the 12th. Delusional, not based in reality and clouded/skewed judgement is all very 12th house. And the sacrificial thing I see a lot too. Or feeling sorry for the partner, being too forgiving. Basically, a sacrifice is usually required in order to be in the relationship for one or both parties. For example, sun in 12th can show up as an affair, sacrificing your reputation and the approval of others and being judged to pursue the relationship anyway. In these types of relationship, there�s always a loss in some way. (12th house is the house of losses).
And lastly, imbalance. One person is usually doing more, or getting the short end of the stick. Having to clean up the others mess, take the brunt of the relationship in some way. DRAINING relationship is another good key word.

Hope this helps

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This is one of my closest friends and a lot of what you said rings true, at least based on my observation. There's no abuse or secrets but she's not happy in both r/s but would come up with all sorts of reasons for staying on. They fought every week throughout their 10-yr marriage and he repeatedly cheated on her. While on the other hand, he claimed that she was bleeding him dry so both toxic for each other IMO. Everyone was against her marriage but she went ahead. She eventually ended the marriage (cos she caught him cheating for the Nth time) and said it was her karma.

With her current boyfriend there's the alcohol addiction you mentioned and she's also caught up in the materialistic lifestyle. This guy has some deep issues and is very temperamental and controlling but she either doesn't see it or she'll lie to cover it up. Yet she laments why she keeps getting stuck in such relationships. The worrying thing is she told me they might get married...but she's hesitant...yet she's tempted because it benefits her financially. I got their composite read before and it says there're strong devotional aspects, then why is it so bad? As a friend, I really don't wish that she goes through another torturing karmic r/s but I also realised that it's her life, her choice.

posted December 19, 2019 06:18 AM            

What if you have your composite sun or mars etc in multiple houses?

I found with my big two relationships our composite charts would often have multiple personal planets in various houses. I guess that means I'm attracted to relationships with a lot of scattered energy...or something

posted December 19, 2019 01:06 PM            

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Originally posted by roseblue:
@LunaIscariot

What if you have your composite sun or mars etc in multiple houses?

I found with my big two relationships our composite charts would often have multiple personal planets in various houses. I guess that means I'm attracted to relationships with a lot of scattered energy...or something

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posted December 19, 2019 04:37 PM            

so true everything you say.

...were a lot more irritable/snappy with each other in terms of communication than normal....OMG this....100% true, never had such a volatile communication energy with a partner, it was so distressing to me. I also hid the fact I wanted out for a number of years because of it.

And that uranus certainly shook things up on a regular basis.

posted December 20, 2019 03:47 AM            

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Originally posted by starstruck1:
...were a lot more irritable/snappy with each other in terms of communication than normal....OMG this....100% true, never had such a volatile communication energy with a partner, it was so distressing to me.

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posted December 20, 2019 04:05 AM            

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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Sun conjunct moon is also one of the BEST composite aspects you can have. I�ve never seen this aspect be negative and not be extremely positive. It�s a best friend aspect. The two people get along very well, like two peas in a pod, they always wanna be together and are very much in sync and think of themselves as �we�, �us� it�s a very compatible aspect and shows a strong sense of connection and partnership between two people.

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I've cSun conjunct Moon at 1� with my dad. 👍 There's always an effortlessly strong, harmonious energy when we're together. We also take turns to be clingy... I clung to him when I was young. Now he clings to me. Lol.

posted December 20, 2019 03:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I've cSun conjunct Moon at 1� with my dad. 👍 There's always an effortlessly strong, harmonious energy when we're together. We also take turns to be clingy... I clung to him when I was young. Now he clings to me. Lol.

I think the trine is also very nice. I have it with my current guy and ex. Both very comfortable "friendship" kinda connection.

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posted December 20, 2019 07:30 PM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
Would cSun opposite cMoon also work similarly?

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posted December 20, 2019 07:44 PM            

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posted December 23, 2019 03:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
@Summerflowers
LOL, pls keep us posted. I'm serious curious about this placement as I don't have a lot of examples.

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I'm still unclear about his feelings. Our relationship is like a fog. I'm not sure if I want to be with him forever.
I'vs updated our status at this thread

posted December 23, 2019 07:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Hi, I know your reply wasn't directed at me but I just wanna say I think that composite 12H Mars you have was so bad because it was also square Mercury. This is a typical combative aspect, and with Mars being in the unconscious 12H, you felt the communication as "volatile"... and probably temper flares happened in very unpredictable ways (square Uranus as well)?

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Yes exactly! those 2 aspect didn't help and it was very unpredictable...no words to describe how uncomfortable it could be at times. But sexually its wasn't as some people fear with 12th mars....

We also had the sun opp moon in composite lol and it'd as you say....

posted January 01, 2020 02:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
Question: which house does mars rule in the composite, and does that affect how composite mars in the 12th is expressed?

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Not sure if you are asking myself...but aries is on the 4th house cusp. scorpio is intercepted....