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todd
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posted October 29, 2020 08:03 PM
  
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Todd, would you say Mars opposite the Saturn/Pluto midpoint (which also conjuncts Neptune) marks the male as passive-aggressive and abusive? As well as fantasing about (sexually) abusing the female?Sorry to ask, Dwhelps, just wondering.
That is quite possible .I would also look for afflicted aspects with Saturn and or pysche
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outofideas
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posted October 29, 2020 08:28 PM
Hmm well Psyche squares Pluto at 0 degrees but no aspects to Saturn. Psyche is also semi-sextile to Neptune. I'm guessing that's pretty bad?IP: Logged |
Dwhelps
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posted October 30, 2020 03:41 AM
Todd, it really boggles my mind too! What on earth does that asteroid mean... and how would you interpret it in our composite?
I was left kind of speechless seeing that it’s position is in such a significant place in our chart... !!!!Should I show you our natals with Yeshua too? I've always been a bit hesitant with using too many asteroids.. but I can't just ignore where it shows up in the composite... mindblown. What do you think about name asteroids?
I've seen ppl on the forum put their name asteroids on charts...
I tried plugging in my name and her (his fiancé)'s name and it shows up in pretty interesting places on our charts too.
*@outofideas, totally fine! I've been hogging Todd XD
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todd
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posted October 30, 2020 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by outofideas:
Hmm well Psyche squares Pluto at 0 degrees but no aspects to Saturn. Psyche is also semi-sextile to Neptune. I'm guessing that's pretty bad?
Pluto square psyche is a sexual abuse aspect.it tends towards pedophila and especially preys on the Innocent and naive.
Cbeck out the midpoint and also the saturn/psyche midpoint. I would expect for the moon to be selected to one of these or the main planets in this pattern.
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todd
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posted October 30, 2020 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by Dwhelps:
Todd, it really boggles my mind too! What on earth does that asteroid mean... and how would you interpret it in our composite?
I was left kind of speechless seeing that it’s position is in such a significant place in our chart... !!!!Should I show you our natals with Yeshua too? I've always been a bit hesitant with using too many asteroids.. but I can't just ignore where it shows up in the composite... mindblown. What do you think about name asteroids?
I've seen ppl on the forum put their name asteroids on charts...
I tried plugging in my name and her (his fiancé)'s name and it shows up in pretty interesting places on our charts too.
*@outofideas, totally fine! I've been hogging Todd XD
First off,I have never seen a situation where named asteroids did not pertain exactly to the inquiry.of course this is with sincerity. Just playing with asteroids gives the level of clarity that is put out. I know!!! I didn't add a extended reply because I was too shaken by all the implications of that sgellium.
I still don't know where to start because is me of my thoughts might be offensive religiously to some.
Obviously this shows he was using your Christian faith as sleazy way to have sex with you.this makes me think his famy are total hypocrites and likely sexual abuse runs in their family.the family insistence that you adopt their standards makes me think they are Evangelical.I realize this may offend some but the narrow .mindedness of some co gregarious is square undisputable.for some one to use the name of Jesus to abuse your is satanic a d can only reflect on him and his family..
Yes the Natal's with yeshuhua would be interestind.I haven't quite figured out what the repercussions of this are yet. IP: Logged |
Dwhelps
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posted October 30, 2020 07:48 PM
@todd, I'm going to post all our charts.
I tried to downplay my reaction but I quite literally almost fell out of my chair.
I've been pondering it since... and still am.....Thing is.. in my further inquiry of the asteroid Yeshuhua.. I found out that it's named after a woman.. specifically a Chinese astronomer...
I'm familiar with Chinese so I knew the name was a spelling of her Chinese name.. which is actually completely different sounding than Jesus = Yeshua. Yeshua is usually pronounced in a very light one tone way.. at least from my understanding (more Yeshu-ah or just Ye-shua). Ye-Shu-Hua is a hard Ye with a falling short intonation, the Shu is flat.. and Hua is in a rising sort of intonation.
The skeptic in me is really considering that!
But I cannot ignore the place in the chart.. it's just too... too coincidental to Christ/Christianity and the context. Uncanny. And in my own natal too. Look! I couldn't disagree with the symbolic implications! WHY???!!!!! How does that work?! Let me show you, as well as our names on the chart.
Please help me to interpret with an objective lens! Take as long as you need. I am still pondering this too. Hopefully my html works... His Natal:
[Img] http://imgur.com/a/ozpxxVy [/img] Our Composite:
[Img] http://imgur.com/a/9huGrpN [/img] Their Composite:
[Img] http://imgur.com/a/CSOYyFi [/img] Their Synastry: (he's red)
[Img] http://imgur.com/a/A4rm8s1 [/img] Our Synastry: (he's red)
[Img] http://imgur.com/a/PXXblkA [/img] And lastly, my Natal:
[Img] http://imgur.com/a/cQLUvT8 [/img]
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todd
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posted October 30, 2020 11:11 PM
First I will address the use of named asteroids.
The theory i use for asteroids is based on quantum theory,which poditscthat every particular clear in the universe is connected to every other particle.so the is not separation of anyone or anything.this is called Non-Locality.roger Penrose the dean of quantum scientist believes that even the qualitie of life are quantum related.
This implies that every question has a answer already in existence.so when you seek a asteroid that represents a person..you get a valid name.
It is important to realize that all the name of the asteroid has to do is remind you of the person in question.you don't just need a proper name,all you need is something that reminds you of the person.it can be a nickname or a description that makes you think of the person.
For instance you use the asteroid Lie to symbolize deception,yet Lie was named for a swedish diplomat who turned out to be a secret agent.so Lie was a Lie LOL
So that yeshuhua is Chinese does not change the fact that the name, because it is similar to jesus/yeshua ,that most westerners easily associate it with jesus.
A last note on this subject is that no one knows why astrology works.I have heard astrologers say that asteroids are merely dust and can't have an affect.this is subconsciously saying that gravity causes astrology to work which is ridiculous.IP: Logged |
Dwhelps
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posted November 01, 2020 03:35 AM
@todd I didn’t know that about Lie!
But yes I do believe they represent what we believe them to represent....
I don’t know why it works but it does, and I definitely see Yeshuhua as representing Christ because that was my automatic thought and it’s place in the chart just speaks to our reality. So!
Yes!
I was just musing, in my inquiry. But thanks for taking the time to explain so thoroughly to me your perspective... astrology is a little mysterious! A little science, a little psychology, a little philosophy.
Intrigues me!
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outofideas
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posted November 01, 2020 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by todd:
Pluto square psyche is a sexual abuse aspect.it tends towards pedophila and especially preys on the Innocent and naive.
Cbeck out the midpoint and also the saturn/psyche midpoint. I would expect for the moon to be selected to one of these or the main planets in this pattern.
Totally! The Pluto/Psyche midpoint is square the Moon! Of course Pluto is semi-square the Moon. Never liked negative aspects between Pluto-Moon in Composite. The Saturn/Psyche midpoint makes a loose trine to Jupiter (within 3 degrees) and is in opposition to the Philomela asteroid. So what does all of this say to you? It confirms the sexual abuse inclinations and taking advantage of the naive? IP: Logged |
todd
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posted November 01, 2020 04:04 PM
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Totally! The Pluto/Psyche midpoint is square the Moon! Of course Pluto is semi-square the Moon. Never liked negative aspects between Pluto-Moon in Composite. The Saturn/Psyche midpoint makes a loose trine to Jupiter (within 3 degrees) and is in opposition to the Philomela asteroid. So what does all of this say to you? It confirms the sexual abuse inclinations and taking advantage of the naive?
Yes I think this confirms your question that he would have abusive impulses to women (moon) and is likely a pedophile based on the opposition yo Philomena(thanks for that'd insight)
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posted November 01, 2020 05:46 PM
He always gave me the creepy vibes and has sometimes said creepy things to me so no wonder now. Ugh.
If the Pluto/Psyche midpoint is conjunct the Sun and sextile to the Moon, what would that mean? It almost seems positive? (He has this configuration with another female who is my age)Speaking of pedophiles, I had an ex boyfriend who was only 6 years older than me but was pursuing me when I was in my early teens. Eventually we got together but one day I found actual child pornography on his PC and confronted him about it. He made the lame excuse that a friend of his asked him for this type of porn.
Now, I looked at our Composite with Psyche and Philomela added and Psyche is conjunct Pluto square Philomela. I'm guessing this reveals that pedo pattern about him. IP: Logged |
Dwhelps
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posted November 01, 2020 06:07 PM
@outofideas Would you make another thread if you two are going to continue the conversation? I’m getting notifications for every post and still waiting for Todd’s interpretation lol. Thanks!IP: Logged |
todd
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posted November 01, 2020 06:50 PM
Hi DwhelpsI am really overwhelmed by this turn of events about yeshuhua.as I have posted I don't really want to get into my theories about yeshuhua.it is enough to kniw that he deceived you using this religious concept I also would like you to find a asteroid to describe him. Also I think we getting too into thus whole thing .it is over between you so I don't see the sense in hashing out their dynamics. it might be that your asteroid is square the vertex in his natal has caused you be obsessed.this is very common when the vertex energy is involved. Looking at your composite for completion is fine and his natal for interest.his Natal shows the same thing Neptune square to your asteroid,so he was deceiving you from the beginning. IP: Logged |
Dwhelps
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posted November 01, 2020 08:45 PM
Hi Todd.I’m overwhelmed too... since seeing Yeshuhua... in our composite... but also in my own natal ... it looks like a significant place in my birth chart alone but I have no idea how to start to interpret it... even though I have inklings. It offers me a lot of assurance knowing that he did deceive me using religion... even though I’ve worked through it, it really confused me a lot... that’s the thing with gaslighting.... It’s nice to see that sort of validation thru the charts. I know! I definitely think it’s the vertex and also that it hit me in many sensitive points... and was quite abusive/toxic - that’s why I’ve been obsessed with understanding it I guess. Yes, in his natal, my asteroid is opposite his Neptune right? So he was deceiving me since the beginning? I’ll search for an asteroid to represent him IP: Logged |
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posted November 01, 2020 08:51 PM
It really is...opposed to your moon which is the apex of the grand trine with Jupiter and Saturn/Uranus.
It is hard to make sense of this...you would be compatible with a Christian mate???then why were you deceived instead??
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Dwhelps
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posted November 01, 2020 08:56 PM
Why do you say moon is the apex?
It’s a kite right?!!!
Also.... you think I should find an asteroid to describe him for...?
My natal and the composite?
Or....? I found two asteroids... but they kind of.... aren’t his name... and is symbolic?
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Dwhelps
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posted November 01, 2020 09:06 PM
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posted November 02, 2020 12:02 PM
I think I found him....
It looks about right... Composite: http://imgur.com/a/Ezi3GAH My Natal: http://imgur.com/a/dlaCWik
I think it matches... even though the asteroid names aren’t exactly their names....
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posted November 02, 2020 12:13 PM
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@outofideas Would you make another thread if you two are going to continue the conversation? I’m getting notifications for every post and still waiting for Todd’s interpretation lol. Thanks!
This is why i apologised in the first place, but my question was prompted due to what was being discussed in this thread regarding abuse with Pluto/Saturn/Mars midpoints. I don't think making a new thread with the same question would now help. This is an open forum and everyone is welcome to discuss and brainstorm different ideas, however nobody is entitled to anyone's interpretations. IP: Logged |
Dwhelps
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posted November 02, 2020 12:27 PM
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This is why i apologised in the first place, but my question was prompted due to what was being discussed in this thread regarding abuse with Pluto/Saturn/Mars midpoints. I don't think making a new thread with the same question would now help. This is an open forum and everyone is welcome to discuss and brainstorm different ideas, however nobody is entitled to anyone's interpretations.
Thanks for apologizing, outofideas.
I didn’t think the aspects we were looking at was all that similar, figured it would be more organized if you started a new thread - but it’s okay. Just a suggestion!
And I absolutely agree, nobody is entitled to anyone’s interpretations. I’m really grateful for any interpretations I can get from other seasoned astrologers. Very thankful for todd’s insight.
Thanks so much @todd! (Do let me know if I’m digging too much, and if ur tired of my charts and I’ll let it go!)
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posted November 02, 2020 01:45 PM
Sorry but I did not ask for any suggestions just to excuse me for asking Todd a related question on here. It is the polite thing to do. You were fine with it then now getting a bit entitled with who posts where and what they do and when they interpret. It is a free forum and everyone can read others people's threads and collect knowledge or chime in with ideas.
Still okay if you don't want to learn and just "hog" people but others may not agree to that too much.IP: Logged |
Dwhelps
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posted November 02, 2020 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by outofideas:
Sorry but I did not ask for any suggestions just to excuse me for asking Todd a related question on here. It is the polite thing to do. You were fine with it then now getting a bit entitled with who posts where and what they do and when they interpret. It is a free forum and everyone can read others people's threads and collect knowledge or chime in with ideas.
Still okay if you don't want to learn and just "hog" people but others may not agree to that too much.
Outofideas, I think you are making assumptions about me. Perhaps it was because of my choice of the word ‘hog’... I realize now it might not have been the most sensitive thing to say. (I was cracking a joke..)
Anyway... like I said, I’m fine with you posting here and wherever you like. I do not feel entitled in any way whatsoever. You’re right that it is a free forum after all. Anyone can chime in. I had just suggested because I didn’t see that the aspects were similar, and at the time I was *very* anxiously waiting on my notifications about Yeshuhua.....
that itself is probably something worth another thread. Yeshuhua I mean. Truthfully... I’m a little taken aback by your response to me.
I’m glad you are being direct and honest though... but you’ve definitely made assumptions about my intentions and I’m very sorry you feel that way!
I hope that you can see where I’m coming from. I’m not trying to be combative or unwelcoming or entitled at all. Peace! IP: Logged |
todd
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posted November 02, 2020 09:11 PM
It is interesting that both the guys are conjunct to Chiron and square the nodes.
First off your mercury conjunct the node gives you strong psychic abilities.generally this shows that you instinctively know where to get the answers to your question.it also means that you are lead to books etc that you need to read.this gives telepathic abilities well as well as dead ng others thoughts etc.
Chiron square your increases your intelligence which is already remarkable because of the node conjunction. Chiron adds a excellent memory which can be photographic.
It gives a very trying incisive and inquisitive mind.extremely analytical and deductive.Chiron gives a curiosity to the cause and effect of reality.it gives an I yrtest in occult knowledge or the first cause of all things.it is scientific as well as interest in astral subjects.the bane of Chiron is its lack of tact. Once Chiron ascertain the truth,it will speak direct without considering the fact on others. As I consequence you can offend others,even friends,with your sharp tongue and wit.
And you do not easily forget being offended or slandered.once offended it may take a long time if ever to forgive then.
So both these guysbon your chiron implies these relationships began as a attractions of minds thought this is not really that sime because your Venus/ mars midpoint on the node
indicates you ate extremely physicaly and emotionally attractive.
I would suspect you have discarded many potential suitors because they were enchanted by your form and ignored the person you are.
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posted November 02, 2020 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by outofideas:
He always gave me the creepy vibes and has sometimes said creepy things to me so no wonder now. Ugh.
If the Pluto/Psyche midpoint is conjunct the Sun and sextile to the Moon, what would that mean? It almost seems positive? (He has this configuration with another female who is my age)Speaking of pedophiles, I had an ex boyfriend who was only 6 years older than me but was pursuing me when I was in my early teens. Eventually we got together but one day I found actual child pornography on his PC and confronted him about it. He made the lame excuse that a friend of his asked him for this type of porn.
Now, I looked at our Composite with Psyche and Philomela added and Psyche is conjunct Pluto square Philomela. I'm guessing this reveals that pedo pattern about him.
The sextiles to the sub by Neptune can add a sensitivity but sextiles bare easily over ridden by hard aspects .without dee the chart it is difficult to make general statements.
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Dwhelps
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posted November 03, 2020 05:37 AM
Thank you Todd, for your response and time.
These asteroids may or may not represent them though...I’m still more confused about the yeshuhua.
On the surface we went to church every Sunday, prayed together everyday, all the time... we talked about scripture to each other often. I had thought that could be why it’s on the ascendant also. How are you deducting that he deceived me with religion (which he did)... is it because the stellium is square the nodes?
I had thought Neptune on ascendant meant that others on the outside looking in can’t tell why we are together. Neptune sq the nodes often means deception? He still sits behind the lie that he’s a really godly man. He is good at appearances and totally trained to speak like a “good Christian”, he has a good reputation in both his church, work and community back home (he lives as a nomad).
His natal shows he is a duplicitous person? IP: Logged |
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