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mee_chryssa
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posted December 28, 2020 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@mee_chryssa Wow, that's actually really accurate he's in the arts (dancing, singing, performance) and I am into dancing ( choreographer). We can both be possessive.

The thing about me is I always thought I wanted security and stability ( capricorn venus) but at the same time I look at my chart and I have so much aquarius energy, independent, detached and I used to say I wanted to be friends first with the person I will marry. I feel as though the uranus and saturn energy I carry leads me to contradiction. And then I have a scorpio descendant so that throws in an intense spin!

Here is my chart wheel http://ibb.co/Qmw9JFV and table http://ibb.co/sCJC3r4


I wish I met a guy t have so much in common in the arts as you have with him. This means that even the Neptune hard aspects could be not so bad, because they is a sense of idealization in artistic fields, but there can be some things that can get passed your sights.

I think even Chiron is not a bad thing after all, even I think is a bad placement. Kurt Cobain had it in his natal chart, in the 7th house, and we know what happened to him. But no great art has come out of happiness.

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posted December 28, 2020 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachyboo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@softissues

My sun is at 11 degrees right on the cusp lol Trust me I know all about that strong Aquarius energy myself haha

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posted December 28, 2020 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seemed like too many artistic aspects to just be a coincidence.

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posted December 28, 2020 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you post his chart too?

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posted December 28, 2020 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachyboo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
Seemed like too many artistic aspects to just be a coincidence.

That's what I've thought this whole time, I'm just trying to be extra careful with neptune.

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posted December 28, 2020 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachyboo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
Can you post his chart too?

Yeah, here

His chart wheel: http://ibb.co/w0wB0Mg
His chart table: http://ibb.co/7v15npf

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posted December 28, 2020 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachyboo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yeah, here

His chart wheel: http://ibb.co/w0wB0Mg
His chart table: http://ibb.co/7v15npf


Edit:

I forgot to put on some of the aestroids

My table: http://ibb.co/LrZLqYq

Hi table:http://ibb.co/DCvHLB1

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posted December 28, 2020 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Moon is opposite the composite Venus which would go to a back and forward between his feelings and how the relationship is, but his Jupiter is conjunct the Venus composite, so he is feeling lucky with the relationship.

Your Sun is conjunct Venus composite which means you really like how you both express in the relationship and also helps you in your art.

Your saturn is trine your venus so the same aspect that is found in the composite is how you relate and like to express your feelings and developing a relationship.

Both plutonic that means that the Scorpio placement would not bother any of you.

The bad thing I just saw was that your Mars is conjunct his Sun so there are going to be some things between you that will lead to a competitive relationship. That aspect is in the composite too and I don't know if you both are up to or going to overcome it, or even like it. Maybe you provoke each other in competitions?

You both have Saturn square Moon in your natals, and that square is a conjunction in the composite, a little better than the square. I think you both are careful of your feelings, probably because of that natal square.

That's all I can say. There are similarities from natal to composite so the relationship kinda fits both of you.

Just that Sun/Mars conjunct in synastry and composite, along with Uranus and Neptune squares, could do some harm to the relationship.

It is also the Chiron in the 7th house with Mars that could be a relationship that involved aggressiveness and wounds, but you are both plutonic, so I don't know what to say.

Thou, the Jupiter composite in the 12th house will help you both heal some things in you.

I had it in the composite and everytime we were fighting or having our outburst of insecurities and fears lead to healing them.

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posted December 28, 2020 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peachyboo:
Edit:

I forgot to put on some of the aestroids

My table: http://ibb.co/LrZLqYq

Hi table:http://ibb.co/DCvHLB1


I don't know about asteroids. Maybe someone else could check them.

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posted December 28, 2020 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Also little message to Chryssa, hi! I have a thread on a Synastry and Composite chart with someone, would you mind taking a look? Thank you!

I'll check, but I don't know if I will be of any help. Here there were tons of aspects that leaded to artistic fields. I will see your charts too.

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posted December 28, 2020 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachyboo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
His Moon is opposite the composite Venus which would go to a back and forward between his feelings and how the relationship is, but his Jupiter is conjunct the Venus composite, so he is feeling lucky with the relationship.

Your Sun is conjunct Venus composite which means you really like how you both express in the relationship and also helps you in your art.

Your saturn is trine your venus so the same aspect that is found in the composite is how you relate and like to express your feelings and developing a relationship.

Both plutonic that means that the Scorpio placement would not bother any of you.

The bad thing I just saw was that your Mars is conjunct his Sun so there are going to be some things between you that will lead to a competitive relationship. That aspect is in the composite too and I don't know if you both are up to or going to overcome it, or even like it. Maybe you provoke each other in competitions?

You both have Saturn square Moon in your natals, and that square is a conjunction in the composite, a little better than the square. I think you both are careful of your feelings, probably because of that natal square.

That's all I can say. There are similarities from natal to composite so the relationship kinda fits both of you.

Just that Sun/Mars conjunct in synastry and composite, along with Uranus and Neptune squares, could do some harm to the relationship.

It is also the Chiron in the 7th house with Mars that could be a relationship that involved aggressiveness and wounds, but you are both plutonic, so I don't know what to say.

Thou, the Jupiter composite in the 12th house will help you both heal some things in you.

I had it in the composite and everytime we were fighting or having our outburst of insecurities and fears lead to healing them.


Wow, thank you so much that was a lot more than I expected to find out today.

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posted December 28, 2020 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, that jupiter in the 12th house could help you find ways to express yourselves through artistic means. The 12th house is the house of the unconcious/subconscious and the unseen, so any art comes of our minds.

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posted December 29, 2020 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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First looking at this 8th and 7th house looks amazing with placements itself. Venus in 8th must be so lovely.

Not in my experience. Ime, it is heavy and difficult. The 8th is not an easy area. Yes, there can be some crazy intense magnetic attraction, but the intensity of same can scare some people off.

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posted December 29, 2020 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachyboo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Not in my experience. Ime, it is heavy and difficult. The 8th is not an easy area. Yes, there can be some crazy intense magnetic attraction, but the intensity of same can scare some people off.


I have heard that, but I also heard that if you are plutonic you can handle better or even prefer it. Tbh being plutonic myself it doesn't scare me, more so intrigues me.

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posted December 29, 2020 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have heard that, but I also heard that if you are plutonic you can handle better or even prefer it. Tbh being plutonic myself it doesn't scare me, more so intrigues me.

She is fairly plutonic--more so than I am. Scorpio Moon conjunct Pluto conjunct IC. And Sun in 8th House.

I'm not super strongly plutonic, but am familiar and comfortable with the energy, as I have Scorpio IC with Pluto fairly closely square the Chart/ASC ruler, the Sun, and very, very closely trine Venus the ruler of my Moon, MC, and Pluto Signs. And the co-ruler of my 8th, Jupiter, is retrograding back into my 1st and otherwise pretty highlighted. The other ruler of my 8th, Neptune, is pretty strong too.

I liked the intensity--I wanted to merge everything that I was with her--Spirit, Soul, mind, heart, and body. Part of her did too, but part of her was scared shiteless by it. She has major, major but also unconscious abandonment fear, especially in relation to me. We had been VERY close in another life, and despite that intense mutual closeness and love, I ended up leaving her/the earth when I didn't really have to. That deeply, deeply confused and hurt her.

Then in this life, she experienced severe trauma as a child--something that no child should ever have to go through (and one of the few topics that can get my blood boiling and make me see red and want to hurt another).

I had potential "power over" her, and that deeply, deeply frightened her. Power to hurt her, to intensely affect her if things should go wrong. I mean, it really says something when someone leaves you in the cold for a younger guy who was barely an adult and who has autism--not the most emotional and expressive guy around. But he was emotionally SAFE because she had ALL the power in that relationship. On some level, she knew she would never get very emotionally close to him. Hence, if things went south, she wouldn't really end up all that hurt.

Fear does funny things to humans.

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posted December 29, 2020 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachyboo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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She is fairly plutonic--more so than I am. Scorpio Moon conjunct Pluto conjunct IC. And Sun in 8th House.

I'm not super strongly plutonic, but am familiar and comfortable with the energy, as I have Scorpio IC with Pluto fairly closely square the Chart/ASC ruler, the Sun, and very, very closely trine Venus the ruler of my Moon, MC, and Pluto Signs. And the co-ruler of my 8th, Jupiter, is retrograding back into my 1st and otherwise pretty highlighted. The other ruler of my 8th, Neptune, is pretty strong too.

I liked the intensity--I wanted to merge everything that I was with her--Spirit, Soul, mind, heart, and body. Part of her did too, but part of her was scared shiteless by it. She has major, major but also unconscious abandonment fear, especially in relation to me. We had been VERY close in another life, and despite that intense mutual closeness and love, I ended up leaving her/the earth when I didn't really have to. That deeply, deeply confused and hurt her.

Then in this life, she experienced severe trauma as a child--something that no child should ever have to go through (and one of the few topics that can get my blood boiling and make me see red and want to hurt another).

I had potential "power over" her, and that deeply, deeply frightened her. Power to hurt her, to intensely affect her if things should go wrong. I mean, it really says something when someone leaves you in the cold for a younger guy who was barely an adult and who has autism--not the most emotional and expressive guy around. But he was emotionally SAFE because she had ALL the power in that relationship. On some level, she knew she would never get very emotionally close to him. Hence, if things went south, she wouldn't really end up all that hurt.

Fear does funny things to humans.


Wow, that’s just... extreme. I guess it really comes down to how you handle your own plutonic energy. Seems like she had to be in control because of that trauma and thus that’s how her Pluto energy activated.

How was your synastry and composite with her? Any significant indicators that you think contributed to how things played out?

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posted December 29, 2020 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for softissues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
I'll check, but I don't know if I will be of any help. Here there were tons of aspects that leaded to artistic fields. I will see your charts too.

I'ved posted everything on my thread including the natal charts in one of the recent posts, hopefully that should be okay. Thanks.

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posted December 29, 2020 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for softissues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wow, that’s just... extreme. I guess it really comes down to how you handle your own plutonic energy. Seems like she had to be in control because of that trauma and thus that’s how her Pluto energy activated.

Agree with this, it also depends on how her natal planets were affected by the composite.

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posted December 29, 2020 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pretty much YEP to the first part.

There are a lot of things going on in our synastry that are intense. But, the astrology doesn't actually cause anything, but symbolically reflects what's going on because of other life, childhood, etc factors i.e. the actual causes.

4 main issues going on.

1. As mentioned, very intensely close/merged lifetime that ended up leaving her in a lot of emotional pain, though I didn't mean to cause it (we were literally consciously telepathic with each other in that life, and I thought keeping in touch in that way would be enough--I was wrong).

2. We are likely twin souls, which combined with 1. above leads to very intense energetic connection and psychic awareness of each other.

3. The childhood trauma and then also difficult past relationships.

4. Age/maturity differences. I'm 15 years older and have done a lot of healing, shadow work, balancing, etc on self. She is in her mid 20's and while she has done some, there is definitely more to do.

This is our Synastric Chart (I'm inside) comparison, and then our Composite: http://drive.google.com/file/d/1jVxNrTteSBPkudqNKXDckQHOEPZkt9kx/view?usp=sharing
http://drive.google.com/file/d/1jZBx2sgDYF4TMIYWbZPkDVv3dFdF126l/view?usp=sharing

Keeping in mind that the above only symbolically reflects the true, underlying causes.

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posted December 29, 2020 04:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachyboo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Pretty much YEP to the first part.

There are a lot of things going on in our synastry that are intense. But, the astrology doesn't actually cause anything, but symbolically reflects what's going on because of other life, childhood, etc factors i.e. the actual causes.

4 main issues going on.

1. As mentioned, very intensely close/merged lifetime that ended up leaving her in a lot of emotional pain, though I didn't mean to cause it (we were literally consciously telepathic with each other in that life, and I thought keeping in touch in that way would be enough--I was wrong).

2. We are likely twin souls, which combined with 1. above leads to very intense energetic connection and psychic awareness of each other.

3. The childhood trauma and then also difficult past relationships.

4. Age/maturity differences. I'm 15 years older and have done a lot of healing, shadow work, balancing, etc on self. She is in her mid 20's and while she has done some, there is definitely more to do.



Keeping in mind that the above only symbolically reflects the true, underlying causes.


Yeah I completely understand that I only use astrology to make sense and work through what I'm going through in the physical world.

Looking at the synastry I can definitely see indicators of you triggering her trauma.

I was actually surprised to see all the trines in the composite, definitely a significant relationship but as you said she was underdeveloped for sure and you had the ability to see that probably BECAUSE you dealt with that in yourself already.

Seems like a "soulmate" or whatever you want to call it relationship that happened at the wrong time ( for her) which really sucks and hurts especially for the developed person.

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posted December 29, 2020 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In a material sense, yes, not good timing. In a spiritual, Expanded self sense, probably Divine timing.

Our connection has catalyzed a lot of growth and shadow work for each other. Though we are not together, we both affected each other intensely and deeply.

IF she ever overcomes her deep seated fears and chooses union with me--it could be a very beautiful and joyous connection. But, it's possible we just came into each other lives to stimulate growth and greater balance for each other.

I'm somewhat worried about her because she is deeply involved with a "spiritual" organization that seems more like a cult to me. For example, one of the long time male head teachers there, had multiple allegations of sexual abuse towards women, and while fellow people in this group knew about it, he wasn't kicked out nor had criminal charges brought against him, but ended up leaving on his own supposedly over disagreement with a ritual where people ate a animal heart.

In my mind, only a negative cult would allow that kind of abuse of authority and power to go on, because this guy was otherwise raking in the money for them.

She left her home and country to move to the other side of world to be with them. I shared the article about the guy with her, but I don't know if she read it or what she thinks. She has so much attachment to this group. Moon rules her 11th, is in Scorpio conjunct Pluto conjunct IC. This group is a surrogate family for her. Yet, she of all people, should be intensely angry and p!ssed at this group for allowing that to go on with one of their head teachers.

Someone told me about some instagram pics of her in relation to that group and it seems like she was also involved in orgies and the like with them. I don't find that spiritually/energetically healthy personally myself. It seems overly slow vibrational and overly body based to me.

So, she may be too far gone to reach. I tried. There is nothing more that I can do.

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posted December 29, 2020 04:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for softissues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Galactic, just read some of your posts on this particular woman and it does make me really sad ngl and I do relate to her actually. I really hope she breaks away from this group and truly becomes independent. And another thing, I relate to you as well. However, something I’m realising is that we can’t help everyone and that’s okay. This is something only she can do and if you did your best then that’s all you know? Sending my well wishes.

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posted December 29, 2020 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachyboo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, that is definitely a cult no doubt about it. And yes, I completely agree with you with the low vibrational point. Stuff like that takes away a piece of yourself every time you do it (imo), heavily spiritually damaging.

It seems like she has given into the damage and trauma inflicted upon her almost like Stockholm syndrome, identifying and convincing yourself that you are in love with the trauma.

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posted December 29, 2020 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachyboo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hey Galactic, just read some of your posts on this particular woman and it does make me really sad ngl and I do relate to her actually. I really hope she breaks away from this group and truly becomes independent. And another thing, I relate to you as well. However, something I’m realising is that we can’t help everyone and that’s okay. This is something only she can do and if you did your best then that’s all you know? Sending my well wishes.

Really good point. As he said they may ave been in eachothers lives for the sole purpose of healing but how she reacted to the relationship itself ( natal to composite ) as you said was too much. Again, sucks when you see that and have the intention of helping and they are overwhelmed and end up running.

I can relate to being the one who wants to help and is usually more evolved but ime most do run or reject that energy and don't trust me even though I have no ulterior motives ( perks of being plutonic am I right ha ). That in turn makes me fear even reaching out or pointing out their shadow side but I literally can't help it if I see that persons...well, everything.

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posted December 29, 2020 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'ved posted everything on my thread including the natal charts in one of the recent posts, hopefully that should be okay. Thanks.

Softissues, I saw that Stoika already answered to your tread. I don't think I can bring something new.

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