posted February 07, 2021 11:49 AM            

have you ever compared these charts? what is the meaning of these?
any opinion is very welcome

posted February 08, 2021 02:16 AM            

Unless you’re an astrophysicist researching celestial sphere measurements, no one compares these two Zodiacs (they’re not actually different charts), and would never overlay these two zodiacs in synastry.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidereal_and_tropical_astrology

The Zodiac: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zodiac

Because it’s obvious where you’re coming from, meaning, what compels one to play around on the Astro.com extended chart page—the reason people study the draconic to natal is because the Draconic “celestial sphere” (how the zodiacs change in this chart) is drawn fixed to a 0° Aries NN point, making it a hypothetical chart of the soul on a collective trajectory. For example: pull up a chart of someone born 1987 and you’ll see their Draconic zodiac doesn’t change because their natal NN is already in Aries.

You don’t realize that you’re asking a PhD level of a question. For instance, I’ve studied astrology now for 10 years and I personally would have to sit down for months in research to draw out even a single sentence of an answer to this theoretical question if colleagues were proposing it. Calibrating the symbolic vantage between two zodiac systems formulated by different ellipticals and then potential abstract meaning produced by cross-reference in space... oy vey.

Girl 😅... this took a lot of energy to explain, didn’t think anyone else would take the time considering the complexity of your inquiry, but better to redirect or elaborate than see you left on read

posted February 08, 2021 07:38 AM            

“Try thinking of the Draconic as the cumulative chart of the Soul including all past life experiences. The Draconic to Tropical will show you where the Karmic tendencies of the past will continue to play out, albeit in a more subtle way than the immediate past life karma which is shown by Asteroid KARMA, Nodes, Saturn, Neptune and Pluto in the present Tropical Chart.
Think of Sidereal as a Snapshot of Karmic Endings from the Immediate Past Lifeline.
So where the Sidereal Objects intersect the tropical is where you will actually detect karmic endings in the present lifeline.
Like, if someone's Tropical Sun conjuncts your Sidereal Sun, you will be fully aware of an ending of karmic bonds with this person. You may even the lessons of how to complete the Tropical Sun mastery from this person. Look at your own chart for more. See if any Tropical object conjuncts a Sidereal Object. This is where you have completed the karma. And vice versa, if any Sidereal object conjuncts a Tropical Object, this is where you can grow by creating positive karma.“ from this forum: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/214317.html

or this answer
http://horoscopicastrologygroup.com/2007/03/22/secrets-of-the-zodiac/
"He also found in his research that when two souls end earthly relationships through either divorce or a parting of the ways, significant links were found between the Tropical Zodiac angles in one horoscope and the Sidereal Zodiac position of the planets in the second nativity. Because karma can only manifest on the Cross of Matter where time and space intersect, and these two Zodiacs are either time based (Tropical) or space based (Sidereal), the premise here is that a completion of karma between two souls can be seen through the comparison of the charts of these two Zodiacs."

He interpreted the sidereal one as the karma of completion, while the Draco is about ongoing soulcontracts.

Simply spoken, if you find the usual relationship markers in sidreal-tropical, it means this is the last way round and then you´re done and on your way out.

This is true especially in terms of the marriage rule. So not every Sun-Venus connection would mean a parting of ways.

From this topic: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000500.html

Again, I’m very aware of what you explained to me in your answer and thank you so much for making that clear again. BUT I’m a curious person and I find this a bit weird but interesting so that’s why I decided to opened the topic asking people to probably tell me about the experiences. We cannot forget that astrology and not astronomy have actually been made effective by experiences in some way.

posted February 08, 2021 08:59 AM            

I sort of had a sense of that [radical] “curiosity”, why I went out it my way to explain what I could foundational to these various systems, though, without knowing how to gauge your astro level bc mentioned your own synastry when introducing the topic without first including your personal or borrowed thoughts on a theory. Happy you cleared this up.

My apologies that I spoke patronizingly, it’s just that this convo is historical AND very mathematic/physics—with that said, I hope more advanced astrologers join us here with your proposed topic now there’s more background to this synastry question!

It’s a good yet complex (maybe even political) question. If I come across any books on such a topic, I’ll send links your way.

When I first replied to you, I also started laughing at myself because I too would love to know more about the overlap (astronomy as perception), if such a paradigm exists, and what expression. I don’t have enough knowledge about the math behind zodiacs to explain anything myself, but intuitively, like yourself, there’s a curiosity, something worth looking into. Haha that’s why i wrote “it’ll take me months” of research :P at least we now have a thread for it

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