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AlmaRegulus
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posted May 05, 2021 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Todd, I've just noticed that when we got physically close at the transiting North Node opposite to composite Uranus, it was also making a square to composite Isis-Osiris conjunction and a midpoint between them on one side, and to composite Pallas on another side, forming a big cross. Maybe these asteroids were more significant than Uranus in our connection. As for Uranus, the background was that we got close after another attempt to break up.

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posted May 08, 2021 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 14, 2021 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've just found out that his Cupido TNP (h40) is conjunct my Asc exactly, is this significant?

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posted May 16, 2021 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The more I read here about various asteroids, the more I find them in this synastry. Sometimes I wonder if this is like finding all diseases when reading a medical encyclopedia.

Now I've learned about this fixed star Vindemiatrix (widow's star?), and it turned out to be really prominant in both our natals and in the synastry and in the composite. Is this really that bad?

So, in the composite the Vindemiatrix is conjunct BML Lilith.

In my natal it conjuncts Saturn most closely, but overall conjuncts the total Moon-Jupiter-Saturn stellium.

In his case, it conjuncts most closely his name asteroid, Dejanira, Sirene and Siva.

And overall in the synastry we are having the following conjunction:

(more widely) his Sun, Vertex, his Vesta, asteroid Lilith (more tightly) his Siva, Dejanira, his name asteroid, Sirene, Vindemiatrix -

with my Moon, Saturn, Jupiter, Vindemiatrix

What can mean such a nuclear conjunction?? the asteroids' and Vindemiatrix conjunction orb is super tight, from a few minutes to one degree.

Both Vindemiatrixes are closest to my Saturn within minutes' orb, as well as his name asteroid, Siva and Dejanira. Whereas his Sirene is closest to my Moon and Jupiter.

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posted May 19, 2021 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes @todd you were so right about these Nodes transits...

Now he told me that he was going to another town for a long weekend. I felt hurt that he didn't invite me to join, so I broke up by message. Not sure though if I hold to it, he was so cute in how he handled my message that I start forgetting my immediate reaction. Did I overreact?

At the same time recently I had a feeling that his heart was touched, and something special was developing between us.

So the transits for the break-up moment:

- a big square tr. Saturn, Uranus, Valentine, Moon overlapping with composite angles, Venus and Jupiter;
tr. Valentine on his natal Pluto and progressed Moon-Pluto conjunction

- South Node on composite Sun and on his progressed Psyche-Dsc conjunction;
North Node & Venus on composite Chiron;
Nodes in t-square with composite Mars

I wonder if Valentine and Psyche activation are significant?

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posted May 23, 2021 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump! I guess I just like discussing thus relationship)), anyone up to?

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posted May 23, 2021 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I gave broken up and asking myself if I've overreacted... but no, I can't handle this kind of a relationship where he would always travel with another woman, his travelmate...

But still wondering if we would reconcile... He keeps chatting as if nothing happened. And I can't stay mad at him for very long.

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posted May 31, 2021 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@todd, you were so spot on...

We kind of reconciled... He said that he feels very comfortable with me emotionally but he doesn't see our relationship as long-term because of our differences (by long-term he meant several years and making babies). I guess I just have no much value for him. He said that he is committed to me and that he would be happy to continue our relationship but since he understands that for me long-term is more important he is ok if I search for someone at the same time. Cause he doesn't want me to loose time and to have this conversation after I am fixated on him for a year or two. But the trouble is that I am soooo fixed in my attachments and I don't get close to men easily.

I would be happy to search for someone else myself but this is so outside my comfort zone.

@todd, you've mentioned that because of my name asteroid on antivertex in the composite he might be more obsessed with me than he thinks? You think this still holds?

And we have actually so many soulmate indicators:

In Draco-Draco synastry - EXACT Sun-Moon conjunction; his Pluto opposition to my Moon, Jupiter, Saturn; my Amor conjunct his asteroid name (on my tropical Pluto); his Jupiter & Part of Fortune conjunct my Juno & BML Lilith; his Sun & Vertex opposite to my Isis & Osiris

His Draco Dsc & Spirit are conjunct my tropical Asc and my name asteroid within 1* orb; his Draco Asc trine my tropical Venus; his Draco Amor conjunct my tropical South Node; his Draco Valentine conjunct my tropical MC; his Draco Karma on my tropical Juno

My Draco Venus & Eros conjunct his tropical Moon; my Draco Valentine conjunct his tropical South Node; my Draco Part of Fortune conjunct his Asc

And we have the following asteroid pairs' conjunctions:

In tropical -
His Amor - my Valentine
My Isis & Osiris - his Moon & Isis (which is widely conjunct to his Osiris)
His Osiris in big trine to my Venus & my Dsc
a kite with a big trine: his Valentine, my Karma, my Cupido (conj his Lust), with a bisextile extension to his Aphrodite
His Pluto - my Persephone

In Draco:
His Kaali - my Siva
His Siva - my Amor
His Amor - my Parvati
His Jupiter - my Juno

In composite:
Pluto - Valentine
Isis - Osiris

In progressed composite:
Psyche opposite Eros

I feel kind of disappointed by all these soulmate criteria... If a composite Uranus & Chiron t-square to Mars overrides them all...

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posted May 31, 2021 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe anyone would have an insight for me - what to do to stop aching in relationships? I've tried no relationship blockage for a dozen of years but it didn't make me happy either. And now he has opened up my Pandora box of emotional intensity and ache.

How can I over-write these patterns? I had broken up with my ex in a similar situation many years ago, and now I am facing again a clone of it. So withdrawing myself and blocking my feelings wasn't really a solution.

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posted June 07, 2021 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Todd has disappeared...

Stoika, Hikaru, can you please also look up our charts? Why am I so obsessed? Why is he not?

The last thing I found is a quindecile of our Ascendants.

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posted June 14, 2021 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've just realized that this Nodes' transit on the composite Sun - Chiron opposition also overlaps exactly with his progressed Asc-Dsc axe. The transit North Node is on composite Chiron and on his progressed Asc, whereas the transit South Node is on composite Sun and on his progressed Dsc.

We had our first kiss when the transit South Node was on my progressed Asc, on his progressed Part of Fortune and on his asteroid name in the composite.

All these are exact aspects. Fascinating, but what does it mean??

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posted July 06, 2021 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AlmaRegulus:
Todd, I've just noticed that when we got physically close at the transiting North Node opposite to composite Uranus, it was also making a square to composite Isis-Osiris conjunction and a midpoint between them on one side, and to composite Pallas on another side, forming a big cross. Maybe these asteroids were more significant than Uranus in our connection. As for Uranus, the background was that we got close after another attempt to break up.

I've also realized that these transit Nodes touching composite Uranus were at the same time forming a big square with progressed composite Asc-Dsc and with progressed composite opposition of Eros and Psyche.

And at the moment of our first encounter before the relationship the progressed composite Asc was exactly conjunct progressed composite Eros, with Psyche on Dsc with a slightly wider orb, and the progressed composite Dsc exactly on composite Isis-Osiris conjunction at the midpoint between them. But we were not even attracted to each other at the time.

Is this anything significant?

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posted July 12, 2021 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Maybe anyone would have an insight for me - what to do to stop aching in relationships? I've tried no relationship blockage for a dozen of years but it didn't make me happy either. And now he has opened up my Pandora box of emotional intensity and ache.

I haven’t gone through your charts but just want to answer this qn.

I went through a similar phase with my guy some 3yrs ago. Back then he told me he enjoyed my company but didn't want anything serious. I was hurt and the more I felt like I may lose him, the more I clung on. It’s limerence.

The dynamics changed when I decided to let go. A lot of people get defensive thinking I’m asking them to simply cut the person off. No, here I simply mean don’t try to control the situation or him, but draw your boundaries because you’re not some doormat. In my case I started going out with other guys and told him we should just remain friends. It was painful for me but I felt I had to be strong, didn’t wanna make the same rs mistakes. I wasn’t expecting anything from him when I did this… but he changed. He knew either he commits or loses me. He chose to commit and the rest is history.

People are strange like this…when you decide to give them up, they come back. I see this happening to my friends all the time. 🤷🏻‍♀️ But don’t do this out of spite (be careful because the energy will feel different). Do it for your own sake. It might turn him around (like mine did) or it may not, but at least you’ll be in a better place. Also, don’t try to find all your answers in astrology. Likely you will not. Human emotions are more complex than astrology can explain. Still, I’ll take a look at your charts and see what I can find.

Meanwhile, hang in there and be strong. 🙂

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posted July 12, 2021 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Hikaru29, thank you so much for checking out my obsessive thread and for your advice!

We are still kicking together... Since I've posted our charts, I've rectified his Asc to 2 degrees earlier.

Our situation is very strange, he said that he committed to me but if I meet someone else then I should go ahead since he doesn't see a long-term future for us (like making babies and several years). And for him long-term is not so important at his stage of life, so he is happy with our present.

So cutting ties off wouldn't have effect on him... And he already committed. But I do consider myself "free" which is hard with my Cap Venus and Scorpio rising.

Another factor is that I don't know for how long we are going to stay in the same city. My life now is very unstable.

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posted July 13, 2021 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Our situation is very strange, he said that he committed to me but if I meet someone else then I should go ahead since he doesn't see a long-term future for us (like making babies and several years). And for him long-term is not so important at his stage of life, so he is happy with our present.

He’s like telling you he likes you but you’re not the one. Some of my friends have dated guys who told them similar thing - serious relationships (one couple was living tog) but the guys told them they didn’t plan to get married or not ready to get married…. but after breaking up with them, they went on to marry other gals whom they only dated shortly.

For your guy, he may change his mind about you in future, can’t say for sure because people do change… but don’t let yourself be held back hoping for this since you’re clear what is it you want in a relationship. Try opening up your options and date others, if you can’t because you can’t get him outta your system, then you need to detach from him. You won’t know how he will react unless he experiences losing you for real. People can say all kinds of things but act differently. My guy also used to tell me the same thing - that I should move on if I find someone else… but when I tried to do that he refused to let me go. Now I asked if he still wants me to move on, he said ‘no’.

I’m sorry for turning this into a counselling session. 😅 Not trying to tell you what to do but just feel deeply by what you’re going through.

I still haven’t looked at your charts, sorry, will get to them soon. ❤️

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posted July 15, 2021 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you dear Hikaru29, your example is encouraging!

Yes you are totally right. Basically I consider myself single and hope to meet someone ASAP. In the meanwhile I am not doing breaking up because that's exactly what I did in my last relationship 12 years ago and now I am kind of trying to overwrite this pattern, to gain some experience maybe... Then it took me soooo long to get close with someone again, that now I am saying myself that there's no difference basically between now and me being single for 12 years.

I am now doing a lot of meditations to attract a better attitude towards me, no matter if from someone else.

Another factor is that I don't know if I stay in this city in a month or so.

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posted July 17, 2021 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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In the meanwhile I am not doing breaking up because that's exactly what I did in my last relationship 12 years ago and now I am kind of trying to overwrite this pattern, to gain some experience maybe... Then it took me soooo long to get close with someone again, that now I am saying myself that there's no difference basically between now and me being single for 12 years.

I am now doing a lot of meditations to attract a better attitude towards me, no matter if from someone else.

Another factor is that I don't know if I stay in this city in a month or so.


My story is similar. I was single for many years before meeting my guy so even though we were not OK initially, I hesitated to break it off because it's also difficult for me to find someone I really like.

Initial phase was very difficult but somehow things improved between us; it's like destiny wants us to stay together for awhile more, if not for the rest of this life. IME emotional healing and mindset change help a lot.

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posted July 17, 2021 03:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As for your charts... I just wanna say that flipped angles, though not conjunct, is a strong sign of affinity. U will likely find in each other what you like in a partner. That's provided your birth times are accurate? Sun-Moon conjunct is also a traditional compatibility aspect, as well as Juno conj DSC. His Uranus square your Venus is why you feel his affection fluctuating.

Your composite has too many asteroids, it's really difficult to read. Comp Venus conjunct Saturn/Pluto shows an intense, serious bond. Comp Mercury/Neptune conjunction square Moon indicates confusion and misunderstandings caused by miscommunication. Likely you guys often beat around the Bush and don't get straight to the point, not entirely honest either. This can be problematic if you start to distrust each other. Comp Sun/Uranus square Mars indicates conflicts. You will rebel against each other and not likely to compromise.

Did you start dating when tr Uranus was opposite Venus?

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posted July 17, 2021 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Hikaru29, thank you so much! You are so spot on! I am also amazed by our synchronicities with you.

Yes the Asc-Dsc not conjunct in tropical but they are in the obsessive quindecile aspect with his Pluto in the midpoint, and his Draco Dsc is exactly conjunct my tropical Asc.

Yes, we started dating with Uranus within 2* applying to the composite IC and opposition to Venus, square to Asc-Dsc

transit South Node on composite Uranus

transit Saturn exactly on composite Asc square to transit Uranus and the whole big cross configuration with composite Venus and angles

transit Jupiter on composite Antivertex and my name asteroid

transit Juno on his name asteroid in a composite

transit New Moon opposite to composite Moon

Yeah too much of Uranus. Basically we have an age difference (I am 8 years older and I was never attracted to younger guys!) and ethnic difference, and on top of that, our first kiss occurred in a research lab while we were setting up an experiment!! (Please don't cite, I may edit this part later)

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posted July 17, 2021 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It’s interesting you started your relationship during Uranus transit as it usually indicates a whirlwind romance. It can also indicate an unusual relationship but may also be unstable.

Tr Uranus will retrograde back to oppose Venus conjunct IC in a couple of months, with tr Saturn squaring. I don’t wanna be a wet blanket but keep a lookout. ❤️

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posted July 23, 2021 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Hikaru29, thank you so much for your post!

Yes, you are totally right about this upcoming transit. Weirdly our whole relationship coincided with this nasty Saturn-Uranus square.

Do you know by any chance what are the indicators of a potential baby in a composite? I am now 40 and it's probably my last chance this couple of years to have a biological baby. He doesn't want a baby with me, and not now in general. At the same time he doesn't use very reliable methods of contraception, even though I've tried to insist a couple of times on a condom and told him that I was not going to make an abortion if something happened. So I am kind of torn out about what to do. Will I find a new guy now? Should I look for a sperm donor? Or forget this topic entirely since I don't have a stable job now.

He even mentioned once that he would like to adopt a baby of a toddler age (to skip the difficult first year).

I didn't want to have a kid with him initially but now this thought is more and more on my mind.

My progressed Moon will soon enter my 5th house in Aries, so I got completely obsessed with this topic! it will also get conjunct with his Mars which is exactly on my 5th house cusp.

I can see a possible pregnancy in my prognostics.

As for our composite, I've just noticed that the composite opposition of Saturn and Karma with Ceres lie tightly on my Asc-Dsc and on his Draco Asc-Dsc (Saturn & Karma on my Asc, his Draco Dsc, my Draco name asteroid; Ceres on my Dsc, his Draco Asc) and asteroid Child is in exact quincunx with the composite North Node. And Chiron on the cusp of the composite 5th house. Do you think it could mean anything?

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posted July 23, 2021 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I asked this qn before. You may wanna see if you figure out anything: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/242915.html . Or you can check Vedic analyses.

I don’t know about you but I’ve a rather traditional viewpoint when it comes to childbearing. I’d want my partner to at least raise the child with me even if we don’t plan to get married. Since your job is unstable, is this a good time to have a child now, especially since he’s not keen at all? Very likely you will be on your own with the child and are you ok with that?

I don’t know about judging children from composites. We’ve a heavy 5th house yet I don’t know if we’ll have a child together because I’m past my childbearing prime but he keeps talking about it.

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posted July 29, 2021 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 04, 2021 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you dear Hikaru29 for your reply and for the interesting link! I'll read it more carefully.

Yes I had the same traditional viewpoint as well. But this year it has shifted... I guess I don't believe in happy forever after anymore...

But you are right, I've already realized that my brain was completely fogged when I was entertaining the idea!

I wish to you that your 5th house composite plays to its fullest! Especially if your guy talks about it, all the light is green! I find it's kind of rare these days that a guy wants a child.

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posted August 05, 2021 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I wish to you that your 5th house composite plays to its fullest! Especially if your guy talks about it, all the light is green! I find it's kind of rare these days that a guy wants a child.

Hey, but you know talk is cheap. 😁 I’m sceptical when it comes to men and their words. Lol.

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