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LoadedPistil
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posted April 03, 2014 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine:

Conjunctions-
Mars/Mercury 1°
Sun/Saturn 0°
Mercury/Saturn 0°
IC/Saturn 0°
Psyche/Uranus 0°
Chiron/MC 0°
Mars conjunct IC 1°

Other-
Sun square Sun 2°
Sun sextile Moon 2°
Venus sextile Moon 4°
Venus trine Venus 1°
Venus square Lilith 0°
MC square Sun 1°
Moon square Asc 5°
Asc semisquare Asc 0°

Him:

Conjunctions-
Jupiter/Mars 1°
Chiron/Karma 0°
Neptune/Amor 0°

Met's Lilith- uh oh
Oppose Moon 0°
Trine Uranus 0°
Square Pluto 0°

His Lilith-
Trine Sun 3°
Square Moon 3°

Oppositions 0°-
Part of Fortune/Mercury
Venus/Jupiter
Jupiter/Juno
Mars/Karma

Other-
Neptune/Asc square 0°
Saturn/MC square 1°
Sun/MC square 5°
Sun/Sun trine 4°
Moon/Moon square 6°
Venus/Venus Square 2°
Pluto/Pluto square 6°

(Unless otherwise noted, meeting chart's planet is first. )

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Leo ♌️ Sun, Venus (2nd House)
Scorpio ♏ Moon,Mars,Saturn (5th House)
Cancer ♋ Rising
Svātī Nakshatra

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posted April 03, 2014 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My natal and 1st meeting with cusp-
Exact conjunctions:
My SN conjunct psyche
My alma conjunct VTX
My karma conjunct venus

Exact oppositions:
My jupiter opposite Pluto
My NN opposite psyche
My Pholus opposite ASC

Exact trines:
My sun trine Cupido
My mars trine venus
My Uranus trine jupiter
My chiron trine Pluto
My BML trine Amor
My Juno trine alma
My eros trine valentine
My Cupido trine VTX
My Amor trine mars

Exact squares:
My sun square BML
My venus square jupiter and Amor
My mars square Juno
My jupiter square psyche
My nodal axis square Pluto
My Pholus square MC
My ASC square Saturn

Other aspects at 1 degree:
My alma conjunct Amor
My eros conjunct Eros
My jupiter opposite karma
My VTX opposite eros
My valentine opposite Pluto
My Amor opposite Saturn
My VTX, eros and psyche square BML
My Cupido square venus
My valentine square psyche
My MC square Alma
My sun trine NN
Moon trine Saturn
My VTX trine SN
My BML trine jupiter and VTX
My eros trine NN
My Cupido trine Amor
My valentine trine lust
My lust trine valentine


Cusp's natal to 1st meeting-
Exact conjunctions:
His venus conjunct jupiter
His jupiter conjunct Eros
His neptune conjunct Pholus
His Pholus conjunct jupiter and Amor
His valentine conjunct moon, mercury and Uranus

Exact oppositions:
His Uranus opposite Juno
His Juno opposite eros
His ASC opposite eros

Exact squares:
His moon square moon, mercury and Uranus
His BML square BML
His alma square lust
His karma square valentine

Exact trines:
His Uranus trine VTX
His BML trine NN and valentine
His psyche trine Cupido
His Amor trine NN and valentine
His MC trine karma

1 degree aspects:
His mercury conjunct Pluto
His venus conjunct Amor
His valentine conjunct sun
His Amor conjunct Eros
His lust conjunct lust
His VTX opposite Pluto
His alma opposite alma
His moon square sun
His mars square venus
His neptune square jupiter
His nodal axis square mars
His VTX square psyche
His alma square VTX
His psyche square Pholus
His Amor square BML
His lust square alma
His mars trine Juno
His jupiter trine valentine and ASC
His Uranus trine Amor
His NN trine chiron
His VTX trine lust
His BML trine Cupido
His psyche trine NN
His MC trine Pluto

Wheew! That was effort LOL!

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posted April 03, 2014 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you for the article on Vesta.


About the first meeting chart. It looks intense but not without challenges.

Pluto on the DESC is definitely on the intense side.
Sextile the NN-Saturn-conjunction in Scorpio, which he disposits in 5th (actually mutual reception betrween Saturn-Pluto-there).
It looks either very karmic-fated. Kind of serious stuff. Maybe also either-or-scenario. Are the people involved willing to put in the ffort, time and dedication Saturn on the NN demands?


A minor minor aspect pattern of Moon-Valentine sextile Mars-Eros, fuelled by Jupiter on the midpoint.

There is emotional affection (though in Gemini might come across a little cerebral), thre is quite osme heat generated with exact Mars-Eros in Leo!
And Jupiter on the midpoints expands.

However why is the Moon-Valentine in the 12th house? Do the people even KNOW they love each other?

I find that planets in the 12th house, though you are unaware of them, are quite visible to the outer world (after all it is the house of the sunrise. lol).

A little bit like the participants in question are the last to know.

But it is the chartruler, Moon, that is. In the 12th house. it is stuff to be thinking about. Well it could also be about a spiritual connection or even a secret one.

Moon-Valentine opposing PHolus-Cupido - flirts and erotic playfulness suddenly erupt, and illuminate the affection lying beneath it, and thus shed a light on the 12th house Moon-Valentine?


Venus squaring Mars-Eros, trine Jupiter - passionate?

Uranus squaring Pluto on the ASC-DESC-line - something sudden, unpredictable happening?

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posted April 03, 2014 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
thank you for the article on Vesta.


About the first meeting chart. It looks intense but not without challenges.

Pluto on the DESC is definitely on the intense side.
Sextile the NN-Saturn-conjunction in Scorpio, which he disposits in 5th (actually mutual reception betrween Saturn-Pluto-there).
It looks either very karmic-fated. Kind of serious stuff. Maybe also either-or-scenario. Are the people involved willing to put in the ffort, time and dedication Saturn on the NN demands?


A minor minor aspect pattern of Moon-Valentine sextile Mars-Eros, fuelled by Jupiter on the midpoint.

There is emotional affection (though in Gemini might come across a little cerebral), thre is quite osme heat generated with exact Mars-Eros in Leo!
And Jupiter on the midpoints expands.

However why is the Moon-Valentine in the 12th house? Do the people even KNOW they love each other?

I find that planets in the 12th house, though you are unaware of them, are quite visible to the outer world (after all it is the house of the sunrise. lol).

A little bit like the participants in question are the last to know.

But it is the chartruler, Moon, that is. In the 12th house. it is stuff to be thinking about. Well it could also be about a spiritual connection or even a secret one.

Moon-Valentine opposing PHolus-Cupido - flirts and erotic playfulness suddenly erupt, and illuminate the affection lying beneath it, and thus shed a light on the 12th house Moon-Valentine?


Venus squaring Mars-Eros, trine Jupiter - passionate?

Uranus squaring Pluto on the ASC-DESC-line - something sudden, unpredictable happening?


What an amazing analysis, Ceri!
The relationship started online between two acquaintances (maybe that's why Uranus is there). Everything started as a playful flirt. After they started talking, they almost couldn't stop interacting. A very strong and sudden affection and attraction emerged from both sides, as I understand, and weird things started to happen: mutual dreams, telepathy, sudden memories from childhood etc. and like a shift in their emotional lives. This is the chart of their online meeting, a re-meeting actually, but significant because they knew each other before, in a friendly, but brief manner, however this "phenomenon" that is now between them started with this meeting. They are now planning to meet in real life, and because of this strange connection between them, they are even a little afraid to meet (I speak with her, but I understand he feels the same.

I still ponder on that Moon Valentine conjunction in the 12th - could this be karmic, a soulmate connection? (it trines Karma as well). Could it explain this unusual emotional bonding, this longing, the dreams etc.? I think it must have a key importance, since Moon is the chart ruler.

Also, can Scorpio and Taurus be considered intercepted in 5th/8th? If so, what could this mean? (there is a Yod there as well)

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posted April 04, 2014 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey LeeLoo, what do you think of the 1st meeting aspects I posted? Did anything fit any of your data patterns that you have been finding?

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posted April 04, 2014 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by tgem:

Sorry, tgem, I missed this one.
The most significant markers for a fated soulmate love meeting that I see:

My natal and 1st meeting with cusp-
Exact conjunctions:
My SN conjunct psyche
My alma conjunct VTX
My karma conjunct venus

Exact oppositions:
My jupiter opposite Pluto
My NN opposite psyche
My Pholus opposite ASC

Exact trines:
My sun trine Cupido
My mars trine venus
My Uranus trine jupiter
My chiron trine Pluto
My BML trine Amor
My Juno trine alma
My eros trine valentine
My Cupido trine VTX
My Amor trine mars

Exact squares:
My sun square BML
My venus square jupiter and Amor
My mars square Juno
My jupiter square psyche
My nodal axis square Pluto
My Pholus square MC
My ASC square Saturn

Other aspects at 1 degree:
My alma conjunct Amor
My eros conjunct Eros
My jupiter opposite karma
My VTX opposite eros
My valentine opposite Pluto
My Amor opposite Saturn

My VTX, eros and psyche square BML
My Cupido square venus
My valentine square psyche
My MC square Alma
My sun trine NN
Moon trine Saturn
My VTX trine SN
My BML trine jupiter and VTX
My eros trine NN
My Cupido trine Amor
My valentine trine lust
My lust trine valentine


Cusp's natal to 1st meeting-
Exact conjunctions:
His venus conjunct jupiter
His jupiter conjunct Eros
His neptune conjunct Pholus
His Pholus conjunct jupiter and Amor
His valentine conjunct moon, mercury and Uranus

Exact oppositions:
His Uranus opposite Juno
His Juno opposite eros
His ASC opposite eros

Exact squares:
His moon square moon, mercury and Uranus
His BML square BML
His alma square lust
His karma square valentine

Exact trines:
His Uranus trine VTX
His BML trine NN and valentine
His psyche trine Cupido
His Amor trine NN and valentine
His MC trine karma

1 degree aspects:
His mercury conjunct Pluto
His venus conjunct Amor
His valentine conjunct sun

His Amor conjunct Eros
His lust conjunct lust
His VTX opposite Pluto
His alma opposite alma
His moon square sun
His mars square venus

His neptune square jupiter
His nodal axis square mars
His VTX square psyche
His alma square VTX
His psyche square Pholus
His Amor square BML
His lust square alma
His mars trine Juno
His jupiter trine valentine and ASC
His Uranus trine Amor
His NN trine chiron
His VTX trine lust
His BML trine Cupido
His psyche trine NN
His MC trine Pluto

Wheew! That was effort LOL!


I notice a lot of Eros in your FM comparisons, especially for you. Eros is an "awakener", possibly of a side of you that wasn't activated before.

For him, the meeting is a lucky omen.

His Uranus opposite FM Juno could mean that he is the one calling the shots in the case of an eventual partnership.

I read your story on page 13, thank you so much for sharing it with us. You said something at some point:

Note the significance of the number 15 - a number in which it is said TF's either meet or share in their birthday.

Could you elaborate a bit more on number 15? Do you have some references?

Also, I would love to see your synastry, if that's OK with you. Do you have 12th house aspects (we do)? It sounds like a 12th house energy to me. How are things between you two now?

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posted April 04, 2014 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leeloo,

"What an amazing analysis, Ceri!"
Thank you. I am also relieved I wasn`t too far off the mark. Blind analysis is always a bit risky (but probably the only way we can ensure we are not reading something into a chart we want to be there).


"The relationship started online between two acquaintances (maybe that's why Uranus is there)."
Yes, makes sense.

Also Mars-Eros in 3rd house.


" Everything started as a playful flirt. "
I can see that. Cupido, Mars-Eros.
But I can also see how that would take on a more serious intense note with Pluto on the DESC and Saturn on NN in Scorpio.


"A very strong and sudden affection"
Pholus-Cupido aspecting Moon-Valentine and Mars-ERos.
Pholus seems to really have something surprising and explosive if he touches something.


Well now I am kinda curious how Mr Sag experiences my Pholus on his Eros. LOL


" mutual dreams, telepathy, sudden memories from childhood etc. and like a shift in their emotional lives."
Interesting. Maybe the Moon-Valentine in Gemini could contribute to that, though on its own it would not be strong eough to evoke this I think.

PALLAS is the focal point of a Yod with Pluto-Chiron-sextile at the base, and Aphrodite is opposite Pallas.
Maybe that has something to do with it, though fi it has, I suppose there has to be a great vulnerability as well, like the attraction itself leads to feeling vulnerable and finally transform.



"I still ponder on that Moon Valentine conjunction in the 12th - could this be karmic, a soulmate connection?"
Yes, very likely.


" (it trines Karma as well)"
No, not really.


" I think it must have a key importance, since Moon is the chart ruler."
Yes, it has.
You can also read it as ruler of the chart conjunct Valentine, so love is definitely a part of their very essential connection to each other, but 12th house kind of love. Spiritual and karmic probably. And a love that needs to be shared internally, honestly and in private. Other people meddling in might be harmful actually.


"Also, can Scorpio and Taurus be considered intercepted in 5th/8th?"
If the 6th house has Gemini at its cusp, yes.


Strong intense erotic vibe, but not very obvious on the first glance.

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posted April 04, 2014 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"PALLAS is the focal point of a Yod with Pluto-Chiron-sextile at the base, and Aphrodite is opposite Pallas.
Maybe that has something to do with it, though fi it has, I suppose there has to be a great vulnerability as well, like the attraction itself leads to feeling vulnerable and finally transform. "

OMG Ceri, I didn't see this one, you have a keen eye. You're my favorite astrologer! BTW, do you have a website or do personal readings? You should write a book, if you haven't already, get that Vesta juices flowing

Pallas-Aphrodite on 2nd/8th axis, possibly something sexual as well. Chiron on MC, Pluto on DSC. Pallas also squares NN/Saturn, loosely conjuncts Union, receives trine from Uranus. Definitely a major Yod.

Their FM heavily connects with composite, Davison and natals. Something's gonna happen with these two.

Yup. Pholus is VERY prominent in my FMs. I officially declare Pholus the symbol of fated FMs.

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posted April 04, 2014 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"You're my favorite astrologer!"
LOL


" BTW, do you have a website or do personal readings?"
No I don`t.
Well actually I probably do, I just don`t call it like that. But usually when I am getting requests per email, I find myself writing novels. Does that count as personal reading?


"Pallas-Aphrodite on 2nd/8th axis, possibly something sexual as well."
ABSOLUTELY.

"Their FM heavily connects with composite, Davison and natals. Something's gonna happen with these two."
Keep us updated. I amc urious.


BTW have you found specific markers of fm that later resulted in an actual relationship?

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posted April 04, 2014 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
Mine:

Conjunctions-
Mars/Mercury 1°
Sun/Saturn 0°
Mercury/Saturn 0°
IC/Saturn 0°
Psyche/Uranus 0°
Chiron/MC 0°
Mars conjunct IC 1°

Other-
Sun square Sun 2°
Sun sextile Moon 2°
Venus sextile Moon 4°
Venus trine Venus 1°
Venus square Lilith 0°
MC square Sun 1°
Moon square Asc 5°
Asc semisquare Asc 0°

Him:

Conjunctions-
Jupiter/Mars 1°
Chiron/Karma 0°
Neptune/Amor 0°

Met's Lilith- uh oh
Oppose Moon 0°
Trine Uranus 0°
Square Pluto 0°

His Lilith-
Trine Sun 3°
Square Moon 3°

Oppositions 0°-
Part of Fortune/Mercury
Venus/Jupiter
Jupiter/Juno
Mars/Karma

Other-
Neptune/Asc square 0°
Saturn/MC square 1°
Sun/MC square 5°
Sun/Sun trine 4°
Moon/Moon square 6°
Venus/Venus Square 2°
Pluto/Pluto square 6°

(Unless otherwise noted, meeting chart's planet is first. )


LoadedPistil, are/were you together? (FM Sun and IC conjunct your Saturn)

Are there any Grand Crosses in FM and FM/natal comparison? I notice many squares.

Are/were you a "temptation" to him, the Lilith woman (the forbidden one)?

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posted April 04, 2014 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW have you found specific markers of fm that later resulted in an actual relationship?

Ceri, my database is growing, but I don't have enough data for a significant statistics. Not many people can provide for a FM chart.

But...

Most of my examples are from FM resulting in real, significant relationships, about 70%. Only a few are from unrequited/never got off the ground relationships.

I can tell you, so far, that FMs resulting in relationships ALWAYS trigger the natals, usually with some major close conjunctions. And other points fitting that specific natal.

The markers I listed in the OP are a repetitive theme, in various combinations (hard AND soft aspects).

Angles/nodes very aspected.

Pholus stands out.

Also, the FM concurs with the composite, Davison and Draco composite/Davison.

I don't have a clear picture about the FMs not resulting in relationships yet, except for the fact that the FM triggers one natal more than the other (usually triggers the natal of the one providing the FM

Or the other's natal somehow "blocks" the FM.

For example, for me, a blockage can be seen in an isolated square (from Saturn or Uranus for example), a square that doesn't fit in the overall theme or is not connected with any other aspect.

Although squares, and all the other hard aspects are very important IMO in a FM and FM/natal comparison because they show how the person was "hit on the head" (or heart or other places hahaha) by the FM. No hard aspects, no major impact. Soft aspects are important later, if the two get together, and they should concur with the composite.

However an isolated square or other hard aspect moving away from the FM could show the one who doesn't follow the FM.

But I have just a few no-relationship FMs.

So all of you who have First Meeting charts of unrequited/relationships who never got of the ground, please share for analysis.

Obviously, the FMs who turned into important relationships are more than welcomed too.

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posted April 04, 2014 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by tgem:

Sorry, tgem, I missed this one.
The most significant markers for a fated soulmate love meeting that I see:

My natal and 1st meeting with cusp-
Exact conjunctions:
[b]My SN conjunct psyche
My alma conjunct VTX
My karma conjunct venus

Exact oppositions:
My jupiter opposite Pluto
My NN opposite psyche
My Pholus opposite ASC

Exact trines:
My sun trine Cupido
My mars trine venus
My Uranus trine jupiter
My chiron trine Pluto
My BML trine Amor
My Juno trine alma
My eros trine valentine
My Cupido trine VTX
My Amor trine mars

Exact squares:
My sun square BML
My venus square jupiter and Amor
My mars square Juno
My jupiter square psyche
My nodal axis square Pluto
My Pholus square MC
My ASC square Saturn

Other aspects at 1 degree:
My alma conjunct Amor
My eros conjunct Eros
My jupiter opposite karma
My VTX opposite eros
My valentine opposite Pluto
My Amor opposite Saturn

My VTX, eros and psyche square BML
My Cupido square venus
My valentine square psyche
My MC square Alma
My sun trine NN
Moon trine Saturn
My VTX trine SN
My BML trine jupiter and VTX
My eros trine NN
My Cupido trine Amor
My valentine trine lust
My lust trine valentine


Cusp's natal to 1st meeting-
Exact conjunctions:
His venus conjunct jupiter
His jupiter conjunct Eros
His neptune conjunct Pholus
His Pholus conjunct jupiter and Amor
His valentine conjunct moon, mercury and Uranus

Exact oppositions:
His Uranus opposite Juno
His Juno opposite eros
His ASC opposite eros

Exact squares:
His moon square moon, mercury and Uranus
His BML square BML
His alma square lust
His karma square valentine

Exact trines:
His Uranus trine VTX
His BML trine NN and valentine
His psyche trine Cupido
His Amor trine NN and valentine
His MC trine karma

1 degree aspects:
His mercury conjunct Pluto
His venus conjunct Amor
His valentine conjunct sun

His Amor conjunct Eros
His lust conjunct lust
His VTX opposite Pluto
His alma opposite alma
His moon square sun
His mars square venus

His neptune square jupiter
His nodal axis square mars
His VTX square psyche
His alma square VTX
His psyche square Pholus
His Amor square BML
His lust square alma
His mars trine Juno
His jupiter trine valentine and ASC
His Uranus trine Amor
His NN trine chiron
His VTX trine lust
His BML trine Cupido
His psyche trine NN
His MC trine Pluto

Wheew! That was effort LOL!


I notice a lot of Eros in your FM comparisons, especially for you. Eros is an "awakener", possibly of a side of you that wasn't activated before.

For him, the meeting is a lucky omen.

His Uranus opposite FM Juno could mean that he is the one calling the shots in the case of an eventual partnership.

I read your story on page 13, thank you so much for sharing it with us. You said something at some point:

Note the significance of the number 15 - a number in which it is said TF's either meet or share in their birthday.

Could you elaborate a bit more on number 15? Do you have some references?

Also, I would love to see your synastry, if that's OK with you. Do you have 12th house aspects (we do)? It sounds like a 12th house energy to me. How are things between you two now?[/B]


I included both our synastry (im on the inside) and composite. Yes, Eros was definitely an activator for me..when an astrologer first looked at our synastry they said, "wow, he really touched your sexuality"....I was like, "umm, that's putting it mildly!"

As far as the 15 number, there is a link about it somewhere in this thread that was posted. I'll see if I can find it again. But yes, it is said TF can meet on that day..we did (3/15/10.)

Him and I haven't spoken in two years..but the connection is still there...even stronger now than it was when we were still communicating. Supposedly we are to re-unite this year.

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posted April 04, 2014 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's an article that talks about the reference to number 15...among some others.
http://www.astrostar.com/TwinSouls-TwinFlames.htm

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posted April 04, 2014 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the article, tgem

Well, you do have Sun conjunct Eros after all

No 12th house overlays (still, Uranus and NN there), but you do have Moon Venus in 12th opposite your mutual Neptune, him Venus IC Pisces, composite Sun Moon DSC in Pisces.

Something that always checks out for me in a good synastry, apart from aspects and house overlays: secondary love houses. Like an underlying web of attraction and compatibility.

Here it goes:

EDIT: ("putting planets" can also mean heavily aspecting the planets you already have in those houses)

You will fall madly in love AND be romantically compatible with:

Someone putting planets in your 7th house (5th house cusp in Libra) and on your DSC: he has Mars/Mercury there AND having a Pisces/Neptune/12th house flavor (ruler of 5th house in the 12th): he has Venus IC in Pisces.

You are attracted and most compatible with a partner who:

Puts planets in your 10th house and on MC (DSC in Capricorn): he has Venus there AND has a Gemini/Mercury/3rd house flavor (ruler of DSC in 3rd house): he has Sun on 3rd house cusp, Mars conjunct Mercury.

You are very sexually attracted and compatible with:

Someone putting planets in your 10th/MC (Saturn ruler of 8th); again, his Venus AND has a Gemini/Mercury/3rd house flavor (ruler of 8th in 3rd house): he has Sun on 3rd house cusp, Mars conjunct Mercury.

He will fall madly in love AND be romantically compatible with:

Someone putting planets on his ASC and in the first house (5th house cusp in Aries): your Sun opposite his ASC, Neptune important too AND has a Taurus/Venus/2nd house flavor (ruler of 5th in 2nd): you have Sun Eros in Taurus.

He will be most attracted and compatible with a partner who:

Puts planets in his 2nd house (DSC in Taurus): you have your DSC there AND has some Cancer/Moon/4th house flavor: you have ASC in Cancer

He is very sexually attracted and compatible with:

Someone putting planets in his 3rd house (8th house cusp in Gemini): you only have Juno there, but Juno is good AND again, has a Taurus flavor (ruler of 8th in 2nd)

When all of them are activated, we have a bulletproof relationship.

Of course, leaving all general rules aside, every synastry should be interpreted in a "customized" manner depending on the needs in the natals, IMO.

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posted April 04, 2014 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks so much for the analysis LeeLoo

"When all of them are activated, we have a bulletproof relationship."

HA!!!! Yeah...I'll keep you posted how that turns out LOL

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Originally posted by tgem:
Thanks so much for the analysis LeeLoo

"When all of them are activated, we have a bulletproof relationship."

HA!!!! Yeah...I'll keep you posted how that turns out LOL


You do that Good luck!

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posted April 04, 2014 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the article you posted, tgem, it says:

Twin Souls are destined to meet when a personal planet is in progression to the sun/moon or midpoint on each natal chart.

I'm not sure I understand it. Does it mean the SAME planet aspecting sun moon sun/moon midpoint in each natal? Or a cross aspect?

Tgem, Ceri, Indigo, what do you think?

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posted April 04, 2014 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
In the article you posted, tgem, it says:

[b]Twin Souls are destined to meet when a personal planet is in progression to the sun/moon or midpoint on each natal chart.

I'm not sure I understand it. Does it mean the SAME planet aspecting sun moon sun/moon midpoint in each natal? Or a cross aspect?

Tgem, Ceri, Indigo, what do you think?[/B]


No, I don't think so.
Example:
On the day we met my pro mars and Saturn were exactly square my sun/moon mdpt.

His pro DSC and jupiter were conjunct my midpt.

He had pro venus square his sun/moon midpt.
My pro DSC was conjunct his sun.

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quote:
Originally posted by tgem:
No, I don't think so.
Example:
On the day we met my pro mars and Saturn were exactly square my sun/moon mdpt.

His pro DSC and jupiter were conjunct my midpt.

He had pro venus square his sun/moon midpt.
My pro DSC was conjunct his sun.


So ANY love planet on the progressed Sun, Moon or Sun/Moon midpoint at the time of the meeting?

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posted April 04, 2014 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
So ANY love planet on the progressed Sun, Moon or Sun/Moon midpoint at the time of the meeting?

I don't think it even has to be a "love" planet per se....just a personal planet..I think.

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posted April 05, 2014 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leeloo,

thank you for the list on markers in fm. I will ponder a bit about them.

In the meanwhile


"Something that always checks out for me in a good synastry, apart from aspects and house overlays: secondary love houses. Like an underlying web of attraction and compatibility."

I usually relate more strongly to the primary love house rulers, but have seen the secondary houses have their merits, definitely.

"EDIT: ("putting planets" can also mean heavily aspecting the planets you already have in those houses)"
I agree, and additionally I have seen the rulers of these houses in aspects to another people`s planet or angle being very important.
Though I know that many people are quite fond of the sextile and trine (and they do have their merits - later), for an attraction to be generated and activated I have always seen the close conjunctions, oppositions and squares playing the most important role.


My parent for example have their 5th, 7th and 8th house-rulers closely aligned with each other.

My Mum`s 7th and 8th house ruler conjuncts my Dad`s 8th house ruler exact.
Her 5th house ruler conjuncts his 5th house ruler and ASC exactly.

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"Though I know that many people are quite fond of the sextile and trine (and they do have their merits - later), for an attraction to be generated and activated I have always seen the close conjunctions, oppositions and squares playing the most important role. "

Definitely. This is what triggers a strong infatuation and fascination, either romantic or sexual in nature, or the belief that the person is the right one for you (in the case of the 7th house ruler). Although, for the real compatibility to occur, there must be some soft aspects between these planets as well, they will come into play when the relationship starts.

And yes, you are right, the first thing to look for are the rulers of 5th, 7th and 8th aspecting each other, if this happens, we have a match. If the secondary houses fit as well, we have a match made in heaven

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Back to the First Meeting Chart topic, I suggest you play with the cool feature of multi-composites in Astrodienst: midpoints and reference place.

You can multi-composite your natals with the FM chart for another insight on how the FM plays out.

You can also "project" the FM to another meeting, if this second meeting takes place in another location by chosing a multi-composite with reference place.

Centre of Gravity is very interesting too, I found a ASC/DSC MC/IC superposition for one of my significant FMs, which totally messes with the houses

Here's their explanation for the multi-composite charts:
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_multicomp_e.htm

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Leeloo, have you found any interesting pattern in the multi-composite?

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Wow!
I have no clue what it means, but tried out the multi composite with the first meeting chart without reference place.


ASC conjunct Neptune by one degree (falling onto my natal Venus-Isis-Osiris)

Sun conjunct Moon in Cap in 1st house (2 degrees)

Sun widely conjunct Jupiter (5 degrees)
Sun and Jupiter both trine AMOR by 2-3 degrees

Jupiter trine Mars by one degree, which is loosely conjunct AMOR (3 degrees)

ASC sextile Pluto (1 degree)

Venus conjunct PHOLUS in Aquarius in 2nd (1 degree)

Uranus conjunct Mercury in Sag in 11th (1 degree) which is loosely sextile Venus 3 degrees) and exactly trine VX


CUPIDO conjunct Saturn on 25 LEo in 7th house, quinkunx PSYCHE In 1st and opposite JUNO in 2nd


KARMA conjunct DESTINN on 26 Cancer in 7th house exact, oppposite PSYCHE on 26 Cap in 1st exact


VALENTINE on 29 Scorpio in 11th opposite EROS on 00 Gemini in 5th

NN on 8 Sag in 11th trine Chiron on 8 Aries in 3rd exact


VESTA on 23 Pisces opposite Mar son 23 Virgo exact


GUINEVERE on 11 Cap right on my own GUINEVERE on 10 Cap and his ARTHUR/MERLIN on 11 Cap


ARTHUR on 14 Cap was conjunct there as well.


This gives me goosebumps. can it be it was already written into our first meeting 6 years ago, that I would be seeing him as Artus? No that is a crazy thought. On the other hand probably CAMELOT is exactly conjunct AMOR, CUPIDO on our NN in normal tropical for a reason.

In the gravity-multi composite STONEHENGE is on 2 Cap - my natal STonehenge on 1 Cap.

Also CAMELOT on 22 Virgo conjuncts Mars on 23 Vrigo and AMOR on 20 Virgo, opposing VESTA on 23 Pisces.

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