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LoadedPistil Knowflake Posts: 1653 From: NJ, USA Registered: Feb 2014
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posted April 03, 2014 01:16 PM
Mine:Conjunctions- Mars/Mercury 1° Sun/Saturn 0° Mercury/Saturn 0° IC/Saturn 0° Psyche/Uranus 0° Chiron/MC 0° Mars conjunct IC 1° Other- Sun square Sun 2° Sun sextile Moon 2° Venus sextile Moon 4° Venus trine Venus 1° Venus square Lilith 0° MC square Sun 1° Moon square Asc 5° Asc semisquare Asc 0° Him: Conjunctions- Jupiter/Mars 1° Chiron/Karma 0° Neptune/Amor 0° Met's Lilith- uh oh Oppose Moon 0° Trine Uranus 0° Square Pluto 0° His Lilith- Trine Sun 3° Square Moon 3° Oppositions 0°- Part of Fortune/Mercury Venus/Jupiter Jupiter/Juno Mars/Karma Other- Neptune/Asc square 0° Saturn/MC square 1° Sun/MC square 5° Sun/Sun trine 4° Moon/Moon square 6° Venus/Venus Square 2° Pluto/Pluto square 6° (Unless otherwise noted, meeting chart's planet is first. ) ------------------ Leo ♌️ Sun, Venus (2nd House) Scorpio ♏ Moon,Mars,Saturn (5th House) Cancer ♋ Rising Svātī Nakshatra IP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 1668 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted April 03, 2014 02:44 PM
My natal and 1st meeting with cusp- Exact conjunctions: My SN conjunct psyche My alma conjunct VTX My karma conjunct venusExact oppositions: My jupiter opposite Pluto My NN opposite psyche My Pholus opposite ASC Exact trines: My sun trine Cupido My mars trine venus My Uranus trine jupiter My chiron trine Pluto My BML trine Amor My Juno trine alma My eros trine valentine My Cupido trine VTX My Amor trine mars Exact squares: My sun square BML My venus square jupiter and Amor My mars square Juno My jupiter square psyche My nodal axis square Pluto My Pholus square MC My ASC square Saturn Other aspects at 1 degree: My alma conjunct Amor My eros conjunct Eros My jupiter opposite karma My VTX opposite eros My valentine opposite Pluto My Amor opposite Saturn My VTX, eros and psyche square BML My Cupido square venus My valentine square psyche My MC square Alma My sun trine NN Moon trine Saturn My VTX trine SN My BML trine jupiter and VTX My eros trine NN My Cupido trine Amor My valentine trine lust My lust trine valentine Cusp's natal to 1st meeting- Exact conjunctions: His venus conjunct jupiter His jupiter conjunct Eros His neptune conjunct Pholus His Pholus conjunct jupiter and Amor His valentine conjunct moon, mercury and Uranus
Exact oppositions: His Uranus opposite Juno His Juno opposite eros His ASC opposite eros Exact squares: His moon square moon, mercury and Uranus His BML square BML His alma square lust His karma square valentine Exact trines: His Uranus trine VTX His BML trine NN and valentine His psyche trine Cupido His Amor trine NN and valentine His MC trine karma 1 degree aspects: His mercury conjunct Pluto His venus conjunct Amor His valentine conjunct sun His Amor conjunct Eros His lust conjunct lust His VTX opposite Pluto His alma opposite alma His moon square sun His mars square venus His neptune square jupiter His nodal axis square mars His VTX square psyche His alma square VTX His psyche square Pholus His Amor square BML His lust square alma His mars trine Juno His jupiter trine valentine and ASC His Uranus trine Amor His NN trine chiron His VTX trine lust His BML trine Cupido His psyche trine NN His MC trine Pluto Wheew! That was effort LOL!
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12742 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 03, 2014 04:33 PM
thank you for the article on Vesta. About the first meeting chart. It looks intense but not without challenges.
Pluto on the DESC is definitely on the intense side. Sextile the NN-Saturn-conjunction in Scorpio, which he disposits in 5th (actually mutual reception betrween Saturn-Pluto-there). It looks either very karmic-fated. Kind of serious stuff. Maybe also either-or-scenario. Are the people involved willing to put in the ffort, time and dedication Saturn on the NN demands? A minor minor aspect pattern of Moon-Valentine sextile Mars-Eros, fuelled by Jupiter on the midpoint.
There is emotional affection (though in Gemini might come across a little cerebral), thre is quite osme heat generated with exact Mars-Eros in Leo! And Jupiter on the midpoints expands. However why is the Moon-Valentine in the 12th house? Do the people even KNOW they love each other? I find that planets in the 12th house, though you are unaware of them, are quite visible to the outer world (after all it is the house of the sunrise. lol). A little bit like the participants in question are the last to know. But it is the chartruler, Moon, that is. In the 12th house. it is stuff to be thinking about. Well it could also be about a spiritual connection or even a secret one. Moon-Valentine opposing PHolus-Cupido - flirts and erotic playfulness suddenly erupt, and illuminate the affection lying beneath it, and thus shed a light on the 12th house Moon-Valentine? Venus squaring Mars-Eros, trine Jupiter - passionate?
Uranus squaring Pluto on the ASC-DESC-line - something sudden, unpredictable happening? IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 2151 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 03, 2014 05:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: thank you for the article on Vesta. About the first meeting chart. It looks intense but not without challenges.
Pluto on the DESC is definitely on the intense side. Sextile the NN-Saturn-conjunction in Scorpio, which he disposits in 5th (actually mutual reception betrween Saturn-Pluto-there). It looks either very karmic-fated. Kind of serious stuff. Maybe also either-or-scenario. Are the people involved willing to put in the ffort, time and dedication Saturn on the NN demands? A minor minor aspect pattern of Moon-Valentine sextile Mars-Eros, fuelled by Jupiter on the midpoint.
There is emotional affection (though in Gemini might come across a little cerebral), thre is quite osme heat generated with exact Mars-Eros in Leo! And Jupiter on the midpoints expands. However why is the Moon-Valentine in the 12th house? Do the people even KNOW they love each other? I find that planets in the 12th house, though you are unaware of them, are quite visible to the outer world (after all it is the house of the sunrise. lol). A little bit like the participants in question are the last to know. But it is the chartruler, Moon, that is. In the 12th house. it is stuff to be thinking about. Well it could also be about a spiritual connection or even a secret one. Moon-Valentine opposing PHolus-Cupido - flirts and erotic playfulness suddenly erupt, and illuminate the affection lying beneath it, and thus shed a light on the 12th house Moon-Valentine? Venus squaring Mars-Eros, trine Jupiter - passionate?
Uranus squaring Pluto on the ASC-DESC-line - something sudden, unpredictable happening?
What an amazing analysis, Ceri! The relationship started online between two acquaintances (maybe that's why Uranus is there). Everything started as a playful flirt. After they started talking, they almost couldn't stop interacting. A very strong and sudden affection and attraction emerged from both sides, as I understand, and weird things started to happen: mutual dreams, telepathy, sudden memories from childhood etc. and like a shift in their emotional lives. This is the chart of their online meeting, a re-meeting actually, but significant because they knew each other before, in a friendly, but brief manner, however this "phenomenon" that is now between them started with this meeting. They are now planning to meet in real life, and because of this strange connection between them, they are even a little afraid to meet (I speak with her, but I understand he feels the same. I still ponder on that Moon Valentine conjunction in the 12th - could this be karmic, a soulmate connection? (it trines Karma as well). Could it explain this unusual emotional bonding, this longing, the dreams etc.? I think it must have a key importance, since Moon is the chart ruler. Also, can Scorpio and Taurus be considered intercepted in 5th/8th? If so, what could this mean? (there is a Yod there as well) Thanks a lot IP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 1668 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted April 04, 2014 07:39 AM
Hey LeeLoo, what do you think of the 1st meeting aspects I posted? Did anything fit any of your data patterns that you have been finding?IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 2151 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 04, 2014 09:45 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by tgem:Sorry, tgem, I missed this one. The most significant markers for a fated soulmate love meeting that I see: My natal and 1st meeting with cusp- Exact conjunctions: My SN conjunct psyche My alma conjunct VTX My karma conjunct venus Exact oppositions: My jupiter opposite Pluto My NN opposite psyche My Pholus opposite ASC Exact trines: My sun trine Cupido My mars trine venus My Uranus trine jupiter My chiron trine Pluto My BML trine Amor My Juno trine alma My eros trine valentine My Cupido trine VTX My Amor trine mars Exact squares: My sun square BML My venus square jupiter and Amor My mars square Juno My jupiter square psyche My nodal axis square Pluto My Pholus square MC My ASC square Saturn Other aspects at 1 degree: My alma conjunct Amor My eros conjunct Eros My jupiter opposite karma My VTX opposite eros My valentine opposite Pluto My Amor opposite Saturn My VTX, eros and psyche square BML My Cupido square venus My valentine square psyche My MC square Alma My sun trine NN Moon trine Saturn My VTX trine SN My BML trine jupiter and VTX My eros trine NN My Cupido trine Amor My valentine trine lust My lust trine valentine Cusp's natal to 1st meeting- Exact conjunctions: His venus conjunct jupiter His jupiter conjunct Eros His neptune conjunct Pholus His Pholus conjunct jupiter and Amor His valentine conjunct moon, mercury and Uranus
Exact oppositions: His Uranus opposite Juno His Juno opposite eros His ASC opposite eros Exact squares: His moon square moon, mercury and Uranus His BML square BML His alma square lust His karma square valentine Exact trines: His Uranus trine VTX His BML trine NN and valentine His psyche trine Cupido His Amor trine NN and valentine His MC trine karma 1 degree aspects: His mercury conjunct Pluto His venus conjunct Amor His valentine conjunct sun His Amor conjunct Eros His lust conjunct lust His VTX opposite Pluto His alma opposite alma His moon square sun His mars square venus His neptune square jupiter His nodal axis square mars His VTX square psyche His alma square VTX His psyche square Pholus His Amor square BML His lust square alma His mars trine Juno His jupiter trine valentine and ASC His Uranus trine Amor His NN trine chiron His VTX trine lust His BML trine Cupido His psyche trine NN His MC trine Pluto Wheew! That was effort LOL! I notice a lot of Eros in your FM comparisons, especially for you. Eros is an "awakener", possibly of a side of you that wasn't activated before.
For him, the meeting is a lucky omen. His Uranus opposite FM Juno could mean that he is the one calling the shots in the case of an eventual partnership. I read your story on page 13, thank you so much for sharing it with us. You said something at some point: Note the significance of the number 15 - a number in which it is said TF's either meet or share in their birthday. Could you elaborate a bit more on number 15? Do you have some references? Also, I would love to see your synastry, if that's OK with you. Do you have 12th house aspects (we do)? It sounds like a 12th house energy to me. How are things between you two now? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12742 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 04, 2014 10:17 AM
Leeloo,"What an amazing analysis, Ceri!" Thank you. I am also relieved I wasn`t too far off the mark. Blind analysis is always a bit risky (but probably the only way we can ensure we are not reading something into a chart we want to be there). "The relationship started online between two acquaintances (maybe that's why Uranus is there)." Yes, makes sense.
Also Mars-Eros in 3rd house. " Everything started as a playful flirt. " I can see that. Cupido, Mars-Eros. But I can also see how that would take on a more serious intense note with Pluto on the DESC and Saturn on NN in Scorpio.
"A very strong and sudden affection" Pholus-Cupido aspecting Moon-Valentine and Mars-ERos. Pholus seems to really have something surprising and explosive if he touches something.
Well now I am kinda curious how Mr Sag experiences my Pholus on his Eros. LOL
" mutual dreams, telepathy, sudden memories from childhood etc. and like a shift in their emotional lives." Interesting. Maybe the Moon-Valentine in Gemini could contribute to that, though on its own it would not be strong eough to evoke this I think.
PALLAS is the focal point of a Yod with Pluto-Chiron-sextile at the base, and Aphrodite is opposite Pallas. Maybe that has something to do with it, though fi it has, I suppose there has to be a great vulnerability as well, like the attraction itself leads to feeling vulnerable and finally transform. "I still ponder on that Moon Valentine conjunction in the 12th - could this be karmic, a soulmate connection?" Yes, very likely.
" (it trines Karma as well)" No, not really.
" I think it must have a key importance, since Moon is the chart ruler." Yes, it has. You can also read it as ruler of the chart conjunct Valentine, so love is definitely a part of their very essential connection to each other, but 12th house kind of love. Spiritual and karmic probably. And a love that needs to be shared internally, honestly and in private. Other people meddling in might be harmful actually.
"Also, can Scorpio and Taurus be considered intercepted in 5th/8th?" If the 6th house has Gemini at its cusp, yes.
Strong intense erotic vibe, but not very obvious on the first glance.
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 2151 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 04, 2014 10:51 AM
"PALLAS is the focal point of a Yod with Pluto-Chiron-sextile at the base, and Aphrodite is opposite Pallas. Maybe that has something to do with it, though fi it has, I suppose there has to be a great vulnerability as well, like the attraction itself leads to feeling vulnerable and finally transform. "OMG Ceri, I didn't see this one, you have a keen eye. You're my favorite astrologer! BTW, do you have a website or do personal readings? You should write a book, if you haven't already, get that Vesta juices flowing Pallas-Aphrodite on 2nd/8th axis, possibly something sexual as well. Chiron on MC, Pluto on DSC. Pallas also squares NN/Saturn, loosely conjuncts Union, receives trine from Uranus. Definitely a major Yod. Their FM heavily connects with composite, Davison and natals. Something's gonna happen with these two. Yup. Pholus is VERY prominent in my FMs. I officially declare Pholus the symbol of fated FMs. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12742 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 04, 2014 11:18 AM
"You're my favorite astrologer!" LOL " BTW, do you have a website or do personal readings?" No I don`t. Well actually I probably do, I just don`t call it like that. But usually when I am getting requests per email, I find myself writing novels. Does that count as personal reading?
"Pallas-Aphrodite on 2nd/8th axis, possibly something sexual as well." ABSOLUTELY.
"Their FM heavily connects with composite, Davison and natals. Something's gonna happen with these two." Keep us updated. I amc urious. BTW have you found specific markers of fm that later resulted in an actual relationship?
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 2151 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 04, 2014 11:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by LoadedPistil: Mine:Conjunctions- Mars/Mercury 1° Sun/Saturn 0° Mercury/Saturn 0° IC/Saturn 0° Psyche/Uranus 0° Chiron/MC 0° Mars conjunct IC 1° Other- Sun square Sun 2° Sun sextile Moon 2° Venus sextile Moon 4° Venus trine Venus 1° Venus square Lilith 0° MC square Sun 1° Moon square Asc 5° Asc semisquare Asc 0° Him: Conjunctions- Jupiter/Mars 1° Chiron/Karma 0° Neptune/Amor 0° Met's Lilith- uh oh Oppose Moon 0° Trine Uranus 0° Square Pluto 0° His Lilith- Trine Sun 3° Square Moon 3° Oppositions 0°- Part of Fortune/Mercury Venus/Jupiter Jupiter/Juno Mars/Karma Other- Neptune/Asc square 0° Saturn/MC square 1° Sun/MC square 5° Sun/Sun trine 4° Moon/Moon square 6° Venus/Venus Square 2° Pluto/Pluto square 6° (Unless otherwise noted, meeting chart's planet is first. )
LoadedPistil, are/were you together? (FM Sun and IC conjunct your Saturn) Are there any Grand Crosses in FM and FM/natal comparison? I notice many squares. Are/were you a "temptation" to him, the Lilith woman (the forbidden one)? IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 2151 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 04, 2014 11:56 AM
BTW have you found specific markers of fm that later resulted in an actual relationship?Ceri, my database is growing, but I don't have enough data for a significant statistics. Not many people can provide for a FM chart. But... Most of my examples are from FM resulting in real, significant relationships, about 70%. Only a few are from unrequited/never got off the ground relationships. I can tell you, so far, that FMs resulting in relationships ALWAYS trigger the natals, usually with some major close conjunctions. And other points fitting that specific natal. The markers I listed in the OP are a repetitive theme, in various combinations (hard AND soft aspects). Angles/nodes very aspected. Pholus stands out. Also, the FM concurs with the composite, Davison and Draco composite/Davison. I don't have a clear picture about the FMs not resulting in relationships yet, except for the fact that the FM triggers one natal more than the other (usually triggers the natal of the one providing the FM Or the other's natal somehow "blocks" the FM. For example, for me, a blockage can be seen in an isolated square (from Saturn or Uranus for example), a square that doesn't fit in the overall theme or is not connected with any other aspect. Although squares, and all the other hard aspects are very important IMO in a FM and FM/natal comparison because they show how the person was "hit on the head" (or heart or other places hahaha) by the FM. No hard aspects, no major impact. Soft aspects are important later, if the two get together, and they should concur with the composite. However an isolated square or other hard aspect moving away from the FM could show the one who doesn't follow the FM. But I have just a few no-relationship FMs. So all of you who have First Meeting charts of unrequited/relationships who never got of the ground, please share for analysis. Obviously, the FMs who turned into important relationships are more than welcomed too. IP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 1668 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted April 04, 2014 12:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: [QUOTE]Originally posted by tgem:Sorry, tgem, I missed this one. The most significant markers for a fated soulmate love meeting that I see: My natal and 1st meeting with cusp- Exact conjunctions: [b]My SN conjunct psyche My alma conjunct VTX My karma conjunct venus Exact oppositions: My jupiter opposite Pluto My NN opposite psyche My Pholus opposite ASC Exact trines: My sun trine Cupido My mars trine venus My Uranus trine jupiter My chiron trine Pluto My BML trine Amor My Juno trine alma My eros trine valentine My Cupido trine VTX My Amor trine mars Exact squares: My sun square BML My venus square jupiter and Amor My mars square Juno My jupiter square psyche My nodal axis square Pluto My Pholus square MC My ASC square Saturn Other aspects at 1 degree: My alma conjunct Amor My eros conjunct Eros My jupiter opposite karma My VTX opposite eros My valentine opposite Pluto My Amor opposite Saturn My VTX, eros and psyche square BML My Cupido square venus My valentine square psyche My MC square Alma My sun trine NN Moon trine Saturn My VTX trine SN My BML trine jupiter and VTX My eros trine NN My Cupido trine Amor My valentine trine lust My lust trine valentine Cusp's natal to 1st meeting- Exact conjunctions: His venus conjunct jupiter His jupiter conjunct Eros His neptune conjunct Pholus His Pholus conjunct jupiter and Amor His valentine conjunct moon, mercury and Uranus
Exact oppositions: His Uranus opposite Juno His Juno opposite eros His ASC opposite eros Exact squares: His moon square moon, mercury and Uranus His BML square BML His alma square lust His karma square valentine Exact trines: His Uranus trine VTX His BML trine NN and valentine His psyche trine Cupido His Amor trine NN and valentine His MC trine karma 1 degree aspects: His mercury conjunct Pluto His venus conjunct Amor His valentine conjunct sun His Amor conjunct Eros His lust conjunct lust His VTX opposite Pluto His alma opposite alma His moon square sun His mars square venus His neptune square jupiter His nodal axis square mars His VTX square psyche His alma square VTX His psyche square Pholus His Amor square BML His lust square alma His mars trine Juno His jupiter trine valentine and ASC His Uranus trine Amor His NN trine chiron His VTX trine lust His BML trine Cupido His psyche trine NN His MC trine Pluto Wheew! That was effort LOL! I notice a lot of Eros in your FM comparisons, especially for you. Eros is an "awakener", possibly of a side of you that wasn't activated before.
For him, the meeting is a lucky omen. His Uranus opposite FM Juno could mean that he is the one calling the shots in the case of an eventual partnership. I read your story on page 13, thank you so much for sharing it with us. You said something at some point: Note the significance of the number 15 - a number in which it is said TF's either meet or share in their birthday. Could you elaborate a bit more on number 15? Do you have some references? Also, I would love to see your synastry, if that's OK with you. Do you have 12th house aspects (we do)? It sounds like a 12th house energy to me. How are things between you two now?[/B]
I included both our synastry (im on the inside) and composite. Yes, Eros was definitely an activator for me..when an astrologer first looked at our synastry they said, "wow, he really touched your sexuality"....I was like, "umm, that's putting it mildly!" As far as the 15 number, there is a link about it somewhere in this thread that was posted. I'll see if I can find it again. But yes, it is said TF can meet on that day..we did (3/15/10.) Him and I haven't spoken in two years..but the connection is still there...even stronger now than it was when we were still communicating. Supposedly we are to re-unite this year. [IMG]http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag47/tgem1/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsb0c3746 3.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag47/tgem1/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsf7021ef 5.jpg[/IMG] IP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 1668 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted April 04, 2014 12:51 PM
Here's an article that talks about the reference to number 15...among some others. http://www.astrostar.com/TwinSouls-TwinFlames.htm IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 2151 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 04, 2014 02:57 PM
Thanks for the article, tgem Well, you do have Sun conjunct Eros after all No 12th house overlays (still, Uranus and NN there), but you do have Moon Venus in 12th opposite your mutual Neptune, him Venus IC Pisces, composite Sun Moon DSC in Pisces. Something that always checks out for me in a good synastry, apart from aspects and house overlays: secondary love houses. Like an underlying web of attraction and compatibility. Here it goes: EDIT: ("putting planets" can also mean heavily aspecting the planets you already have in those houses) You will fall madly in love AND be romantically compatible with: Someone putting planets in your 7th house (5th house cusp in Libra) and on your DSC: he has Mars/Mercury there AND having a Pisces/Neptune/12th house flavor (ruler of 5th house in the 12th): he has Venus IC in Pisces. You are attracted and most compatible with a partner who: Puts planets in your 10th house and on MC (DSC in Capricorn): he has Venus there AND has a Gemini/Mercury/3rd house flavor (ruler of DSC in 3rd house): he has Sun on 3rd house cusp, Mars conjunct Mercury. You are very sexually attracted and compatible with: Someone putting planets in your 10th/MC (Saturn ruler of 8th); again, his Venus AND has a Gemini/Mercury/3rd house flavor (ruler of 8th in 3rd house): he has Sun on 3rd house cusp, Mars conjunct Mercury. He will fall madly in love AND be romantically compatible with: Someone putting planets on his ASC and in the first house (5th house cusp in Aries): your Sun opposite his ASC, Neptune important too AND has a Taurus/Venus/2nd house flavor (ruler of 5th in 2nd): you have Sun Eros in Taurus. He will be most attracted and compatible with a partner who: Puts planets in his 2nd house (DSC in Taurus): you have your DSC there AND has some Cancer/Moon/4th house flavor: you have ASC in Cancer He is very sexually attracted and compatible with: Someone putting planets in his 3rd house (8th house cusp in Gemini): you only have Juno there, but Juno is good AND again, has a Taurus flavor (ruler of 8th in 2nd) When all of them are activated, we have a bulletproof relationship. Of course, leaving all general rules aside, every synastry should be interpreted in a "customized" manner depending on the needs in the natals, IMO. IP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 1668 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted April 04, 2014 03:11 PM
Thanks so much for the analysis LeeLoo "When all of them are activated, we have a bulletproof relationship." HA!!!! Yeah...I'll keep you posted how that turns out LOL
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 2151 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 04, 2014 03:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by tgem: Thanks so much for the analysis LeeLoo "When all of them are activated, we have a bulletproof relationship." HA!!!! Yeah...I'll keep you posted how that turns out LOL
You do that Good luck! IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 2151 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 04, 2014 03:40 PM
In the article you posted, tgem, it says:Twin Souls are destined to meet when a personal planet is in progression to the sun/moon or midpoint on each natal chart. I'm not sure I understand it. Does it mean the SAME planet aspecting sun moon sun/moon midpoint in each natal? Or a cross aspect? Tgem, Ceri, Indigo, what do you think? IP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 1668 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted April 04, 2014 04:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: In the article you posted, tgem, it says:[b]Twin Souls are destined to meet when a personal planet is in progression to the sun/moon or midpoint on each natal chart. I'm not sure I understand it. Does it mean the SAME planet aspecting sun moon sun/moon midpoint in each natal? Or a cross aspect? Tgem, Ceri, Indigo, what do you think?[/B]
No, I don't think so. Example: On the day we met my pro mars and Saturn were exactly square my sun/moon mdpt. His pro DSC and jupiter were conjunct my midpt. He had pro venus square his sun/moon midpt. My pro DSC was conjunct his sun. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 2151 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 04, 2014 06:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by tgem: No, I don't think so. Example: On the day we met my pro mars and Saturn were exactly square my sun/moon mdpt.His pro DSC and jupiter were conjunct my midpt. He had pro venus square his sun/moon midpt. My pro DSC was conjunct his sun.
So ANY love planet on the progressed Sun, Moon or Sun/Moon midpoint at the time of the meeting? IP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 1668 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted April 04, 2014 07:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: So ANY love planet on the progressed Sun, Moon or Sun/Moon midpoint at the time of the meeting?
I don't think it even has to be a "love" planet per se....just a personal planet..I think. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12742 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 05, 2014 03:56 AM
Leeloo,thank you for the list on markers in fm. I will ponder a bit about them. In the meanwhile "Something that always checks out for me in a good synastry, apart from aspects and house overlays: secondary love houses. Like an underlying web of attraction and compatibility."
I usually relate more strongly to the primary love house rulers, but have seen the secondary houses have their merits, definitely. "EDIT: ("putting planets" can also mean heavily aspecting the planets you already have in those houses)" I agree, and additionally I have seen the rulers of these houses in aspects to another people`s planet or angle being very important. Though I know that many people are quite fond of the sextile and trine (and they do have their merits - later), for an attraction to be generated and activated I have always seen the close conjunctions, oppositions and squares playing the most important role. My parent for example have their 5th, 7th and 8th house-rulers closely aligned with each other.
My Mum`s 7th and 8th house ruler conjuncts my Dad`s 8th house ruler exact. Her 5th house ruler conjuncts his 5th house ruler and ASC exactly. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 2151 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 05, 2014 05:00 AM
"Though I know that many people are quite fond of the sextile and trine (and they do have their merits - later), for an attraction to be generated and activated I have always seen the close conjunctions, oppositions and squares playing the most important role. "Definitely. This is what triggers a strong infatuation and fascination, either romantic or sexual in nature, or the belief that the person is the right one for you (in the case of the 7th house ruler). Although, for the real compatibility to occur, there must be some soft aspects between these planets as well, they will come into play when the relationship starts. And yes, you are right, the first thing to look for are the rulers of 5th, 7th and 8th aspecting each other, if this happens, we have a match. If the secondary houses fit as well, we have a match made in heaven IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 2151 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted April 05, 2014 06:52 AM
Back to the First Meeting Chart topic, I suggest you play with the cool feature of multi-composites in Astrodienst: midpoints and reference place.You can multi-composite your natals with the FM chart for another insight on how the FM plays out. You can also "project" the FM to another meeting, if this second meeting takes place in another location by chosing a multi-composite with reference place. Centre of Gravity is very interesting too, I found a ASC/DSC MC/IC superposition for one of my significant FMs, which totally messes with the houses Here's their explanation for the multi-composite charts: http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_multicomp_e.htm IP: Logged |
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 748 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted April 05, 2014 08:29 AM
Leeloo, have you found any interesting pattern in the multi-composite?------------------ what goes up must come down, so when you're feeling down, the only way to be is up IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 12742 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 05, 2014 08:48 AM
Wow! I have no clue what it means, but tried out the multi composite with the first meeting chart without reference place. ASC conjunct Neptune by one degree (falling onto my natal Venus-Isis-Osiris)
Sun conjunct Moon in Cap in 1st house (2 degrees) Sun widely conjunct Jupiter (5 degrees) Sun and Jupiter both trine AMOR by 2-3 degrees Jupiter trine Mars by one degree, which is loosely conjunct AMOR (3 degrees) ASC sextile Pluto (1 degree) Venus conjunct PHOLUS in Aquarius in 2nd (1 degree) Uranus conjunct Mercury in Sag in 11th (1 degree) which is loosely sextile Venus 3 degrees) and exactly trine VX CUPIDO conjunct Saturn on 25 LEo in 7th house, quinkunx PSYCHE In 1st and opposite JUNO in 2nd
KARMA conjunct DESTINN on 26 Cancer in 7th house exact, oppposite PSYCHE on 26 Cap in 1st exact
VALENTINE on 29 Scorpio in 11th opposite EROS on 00 Gemini in 5th
NN on 8 Sag in 11th trine Chiron on 8 Aries in 3rd exact VESTA on 23 Pisces opposite Mar son 23 Virgo exact
GUINEVERE on 11 Cap right on my own GUINEVERE on 10 Cap and his ARTHUR/MERLIN on 11 Cap
ARTHUR on 14 Cap was conjunct there as well.
This gives me goosebumps. can it be it was already written into our first meeting 6 years ago, that I would be seeing him as Artus? No that is a crazy thought. On the other hand probably CAMELOT is exactly conjunct AMOR, CUPIDO on our NN in normal tropical for a reason.
In the gravity-multi composite STONEHENGE is on 2 Cap - my natal STonehenge on 1 Cap. Also CAMELOT on 22 Virgo conjuncts Mars on 23 Vrigo and AMOR on 20 Virgo, opposing VESTA on 23 Pisces. IP: Logged | |