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Topic: Bloody beginner - yes or no
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Enneline Knowflake Posts: 6675 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 01, 2017 11:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: I think yes, he definitely will contact you, either within the next 8 days, or possibly on an 8th day of a month. (my gut instinct does tell me it might be shorter timeframes not weeks nor months). My gut instinct also tell me - at least semi-tell me- that if you might suspect him to have more than purely platonic feelings for you, that you will amicably cut the contact for good. not sure about the intercpetion, did you use regiomontanus as system? (seems this is the one used in horary)
I will let you know and please tell me if P contacts you. Maybe you get some kind of fanmail? Yes, I have decided that if he gets too cozy , I would not respond I did use regiomontans
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Enneline Knowflake Posts: 6675 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 01, 2017 11:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Yes I actually think that is true, of course beore that to happen you would mercilessly rip open any insufficient bandaids on my wounds! Actually P seems to do that too with his PLuto on 21 Libra (and our composite NN-Amor-Cupido on 20 Libra and Mars on 23 Libra is NOT helpful. lol).
Pluto-Chiron usually is just generational, but in this case overlaying our composite nodal axis, emphasizing for him Pluto in 7th house and for me Chiron in 4th house. and pulling composite Moon in as well.
I`ve always had this image as if my Chiron was desperately clinging to that composite SN, while his NN-Mars on his Pluto seemed to evoke the urge to pull the whole thing into a more present or future manifestation, while my little SElf was just stubbornly putting her heels into that SN and saying: I am NOT going to leave my cave (chiron in 4th house). I disgress but sometimes looking at composites it feels like watching cartoons. lol
ah no, even though i am an aries mooner, i am still a triple cancer killing you softly  oh, nasty P connections  seems that he digs out any wounds about family & home life and love life you might have or not have. No wonder, he is on your mind and all is about emotions with those placements & aspects
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30734 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 01, 2017 01:08 PM
Curiously I do not think those connections are "nasty", not in a serious bad way. I have a tendency to cave in when actually I should be out there and shine my light.  I just need sometimes a slight push to remember that. And yes I will let you know of course. As if I could ever shut up! lol
EDIT And if he insists on the autograph thing, okay, then I`ll give in and just give him one.
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Enneline Knowflake Posts: 6675 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 01, 2017 01:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Curiously I do not think those connections are "nasty", not in a serious bad way. I have a tendency to cave in when actually I should be out there and shine my light.  I just need sometimes a slight push to remember that. And yes I will let you know of course. As if I could ever shut up! lol
EDIT And if he insists on the autograph thing, okay, then I`ll give in and just give him one.
Hahahaha  But so with me at your side you would discover your inner wounds and transform into a new person An autograph from you? Not before he kisses your bellybuttom  IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30734 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 01, 2017 02:54 PM
Discover? Hmm, maybe not, I think I am quite aware of them, but WORKING with them? Absolutely, yes!!! hahaha, my bellybutton is clearly out of reach.... at least for now.
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GeminiKarat Moderator Posts: 3648 From: Austria Registered: Jun 2014
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posted January 01, 2017 03:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by Enneline: you were right why did you go for a yes despite mercury combust and rx? because of moon applying to venus? Does moon to venus cancel out bad mercury aspects?
Thank you very much for the feedback. Ceri explained it very good. I do not read charts that have a Moon VOC, a early degree and Saturn in the 7th. In your case it was determined to happen. Moon made an applying sextile and I see them as a smooth aspect in Horary. I will leave your with the other discussion.  IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30734 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2017 06:22 AM
okay, it was 3 days. lol NOt that it was that big deal either.
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Enneline Knowflake Posts: 6675 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 04, 2017 11:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: okay, it was 3 days. lol NOt that it was that big deal either.
ah! it worked! i knew it! Hmpf, 3 days, okay, let's say the chart had told you it would happen around 2 days  IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30734 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2017 03:35 PM
Well technically it was 2 days and a few hours after I posted the chart. lol But I am not sure I would even count that as "contact". lol IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 6675 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 09, 2017 09:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: I am fascinated, too! Though honestly I think it was just a lucky guess from my side.  This new chart is tricky again for me.
I`ll tell you why. his main significator Venus is almost switching signs, and does - not yet- have any direct contact to your main significator Mars. As it is now Venus is ruled by Saturn, so he seems to be interested in whatever Saturn represents, and Saturn rules your 3rd house. His 3rd house is signified by Moon and this Moon is ruled by Saturn as well and falls into your 3rd house - but intercepted. He might be quite interested in a new contact, but maybe there is going to be something hidden about it? Something not visible from first glance. Moon`s next aspect are a trine to Jupiter and a sextile to Saturn. The Moon-Saturn-sextile would represent a connection between both 3rd house rulers, but neither is aspecting either of your main significators, so that is at least surprising to me. Also Moon will be first trine Jupiter, and then sextile Saturn. Jupiter rules your 4th house with your main signifcators sitting on the cusp. 4th house often can signify the end of matters, and I wonder if you might maybe decide that you donīt want any further contact, but decide it amicably of course with the Jupiter-trine, before he contacts you again. Alternatively of course it could be a third person bringing you in contact again. or something else related to that Jupiter. If the contact happens, I`d say possibly within 8 days (as Moon is having a 8 degree orb of sextile Saturn - and he is going to contact you).
Interestingly even if we use the 11th house for him, as a friend, he is still going to be signified by Venus in Aquarius, ruled by Saturn. (BTW sometimes Saturn also comes up for an ex-partner, so he might be really interested in maintaining contact with you. I am not alltogether sure how purely platonic he feels about that though. Maybe I am wrong, but it just seems he is a tad too interested, but I guess respectful enough. And maybe he really is just intersted in a sporadic contact with you.)
hey! feedback! you were right Contact yesterday, on the 8th; however, it was not that he initiated contact, we had a very short conversation due to a mail delivered to the wrong addresse. So maybe that's why the chart was confusing. we had contact but due to a mistunderstanding, not because we wanted to talk to each other. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30734 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 09, 2017 02:26 PM
Wow, you are not serious?  Timing was right once again? This is almost creepy. lol Also the contact due to a misunderstanding, an unintentional contact, I wonder if that might have todo with the intercepted house in the chart. But boy these timing things are really unreal. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30734 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 14, 2017 07:56 AM
HOpe you are still reading this, Enneline? I was wanting to put one here for you, too.
Question was: Is he thinking or and going to contact me?
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I think with Moon sextile his significator, he might not be adverse to the thought. Moon, ruling my 3rd house, also is going to have an applying trine, to Saturn, the ruler of his 3rd house. Both aspects are applying within 1 degree, so IF there would be contact, it would be either tomorrow, in one week, or 1 month I think. However, there is no direct aspect between our main significators, so despite thinking about it, he might decide otherwise (though if I remember it rightly in your positive horaries the connection was also made through Moon or the 3rd house rulers).
interestingly the horary ASC is falling onto my natal DESC, our first meeting DESC and the horary DESC on the exact midpoints of our names in his chart. lol
EVen if I give him the 11th ouse as significator (as friend - loosely speaking), his significator will be SAturn and Jupiter, and Moon will still be applying to aspect those within 1 degree (see how the unit stays the same? 1 time unit?) Interestingly enough my main significator is pretty under-occupied. Except it is
parallel Sun, Saturn (and Pluto) the parallel between Mercury and Saturn (either his main significator as a friend or of his house of communicaton) actually would be considered positive by some horarists Anyway I don`t really think it is all that likely. lol IP: Logged | |