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Topic: Bloody beginner - yes or no
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Enneline Knowflake Posts: 6675 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 28, 2016 08:58 AM
so, i am trying to do become more serious on horary; never paid much attention so far. I asked for practice a yes or no q that is not that important for me (too afraid to ask about something really important like my next assignment): if i hear from someone (just an ex who recently contacted me on friendly terms, he is taken and happy): WRONG CHART! EDIT 1. asc is late -> not valid? 2. ruler of asc mercury sextile ruler of desc neptune -> yes? 3. moon conjunct saturn in the 3rd -> no? 4. mars (him) sextile mercury -> hmmm? 5. venus (me) trine jupiter and sextile moon/saturn -> hmmm...yes? I would go for a yes
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Tofu addict Knowflake Posts: 585 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 29, 2016 01:59 AM
Well , one of the first lessons in horary is not to ask meaningless questions. You better jump in the deep end and ask what you really want to ask, what is important for you and on your mindIP: Logged |
GeminiKarat Moderator Posts: 3648 From: Austria Registered: Jun 2014
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posted December 29, 2016 04:27 AM
I have noticed a late AC and Moon is VOC.---->chart is not readable. IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 6675 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 29, 2016 05:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by Tofu addict: Well , one of the first lessons in horary is not to ask meaningless questions. You better jump in the deep end and ask what you really want to ask, what is important for you and on your mind
hmpf but i want to learn first, i did the same when learning Tarot cards how do important questions work better? I mean in the essence it's the same IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 6675 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 29, 2016 07:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by GeminiKarat: I have noticed a late AC and Moon is VOC.---->chart is not readable.
yeah, i heard that but other sources say that a horary chart is always readable. Hmmm...Anyways, thanks for your input
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Tofu addict Knowflake Posts: 585 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 29, 2016 07:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by Enneline: hmpf but i want to learn first, i did the same when learning Tarot cardshow do important questions work better? I mean in the essence it's the same
If you ask trivial questions, you get trivial answers, why can't you learn from questions that really matter to you? IP: Logged |
erickaf Knowflake Posts: 1620 From: Europe Registered: Oct 2014
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posted December 29, 2016 08:30 AM
E dear you don't need those asteroids...any particular reason you included them? Can you post the coordinates so I can I can read it better in my computer? Thanks.IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 6675 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 29, 2016 08:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by Tofu addict: If you ask trivial questions, you get trivial answers, why can't you learn from questions that really matter to you?
because i don't want to interpret it wrong and lose hope if it's important to me first some crash test dummies IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 6675 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 29, 2016 08:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by erickaf: E dear you don't need those asteroids...any particular reason you included them? Can you post the coordinates so I can I can read it better in my computer? Thanks.
No, I am just used to using asteroids Sorry but what do you mean by coordinates? I thought I posted anything possible IP: Logged |
erickaf Knowflake Posts: 1620 From: Europe Registered: Oct 2014
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posted December 29, 2016 09:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by Enneline: No, I am just used to using asteroids Sorry but what do you mean by coordinates? I thought I posted anything possible
I love these kinds of horaries so I want to practice too...by coordinates I mean your location so I can enter it in my Astro.com account ...thanks.
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Enneline Knowflake Posts: 6675 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 29, 2016 09:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by erickaf: I love these kinds of horaries so I want to practice too...by coordinates I mean your location so I can enter it in my Astro.com account ...thanks.
oh, i had changed the reference place to my current home before i set up the chart i posted: Frankfurt am Main Coordinates WGS84 50° 6′ 38″ N, 8° 40′ 56″ E 50.110556°, 8.682222° UTM 32U 477278 5550971 Geo URI geo:50.110556,8.682222 IP: Logged |
erickaf Knowflake Posts: 1620 From: Europe Registered: Oct 2014
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posted December 29, 2016 10:19 AM
Thank. And the date?IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 6675 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 29, 2016 10:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by erickaf: Thank. And the date?
thanks for your patience I asked the q on 27 December 2016 at 11:47 p.m. CETin Frankfurt am Main in Germany. Wow, when double checking i realized that that i accidently typed 2017 instead of 2016. Just posted the correct chart and i am doing the interpretation right now IP: Logged |
erickaf Knowflake Posts: 1620 From: Europe Registered: Oct 2014
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posted December 29, 2016 10:36 AM
quote: Originally posted by Enneline: thanks for your patience I asked the q on 27 December 2016 at 11:47 p.m. CETin Frankfurt am Main in Germany. Wow, when double checking i realized that that i accidently typed 2017 instead of 2016. Just posted the correct chart and i am doing the interpretation right now
Great! Let me take a look and see what I find ... I'll post a bit later.
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erickaf Knowflake Posts: 1620 From: Europe Registered: Oct 2014
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posted December 29, 2016 11:42 AM
Late ascendant means the matter is finishing or you already know the answer... I find it interesting you are combust the sun ...sun is applying to you, the ascendant by square...28 Virgo is in the duad of the Sun...so I feel the sun is strongly connected to you and in the 4th ... so you are focused on "burying" him sort of speak lol, because 4th is associated with the end of matters... or in can mean you are simply focused on family issues...and the Moon is also there. The Moon will sextile Venus...it rules the turned 3rd house. This, I think, points to a yes to your question whether he'll communicate with you. Mars ruler of your third is in Pisces trines the MC...another yes to communication. Anyway, I think yes you'll eventually from him... Please take this with a grain of salt as I'm still learning too...IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 6675 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 29, 2016 11:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by erickaf: Late ascendant means the matter is finishing or you already know the answer... I find it interesting you are combust the sun ...sun is applying to you, the ascendant by square...28 Virgo is in the duad of the Sun...so I feel the sun is strongly connected to you and in the 4th ... so you are focused on "burying" him sort of speak lol, because 4th is associated with the end of matters... or in can mean you are simply focused on family issues...and the Moon is also there. The Moon will sextile Venus...it rules the turned 3rd house. This, I think, points to a yes to your question whether he'll communicate with you. Mars ruler of your third is in Pisces trines the MC...another yes to communication. Anyway, I think yes you'll eventually from him... Please take this with a grain of salt as I'm still learning too...
hahaha thanks a lot, my dear, very kind of you well, yes i am burying him....you know you read for me a few weeks ago and i told you that i had met again that ex-lover and teased him and it was fun and i also apologized to him and said "farewell"- for the rest of our lives. It was pretty clear for me that we are done while on being on good terms (i hate ending affairs and relationships on bad term) but he texted me again for Christmas and i had the feeling it was not the last time i gonna hear from him - despite saying goodbye forever to him.... IP: Logged |
erickaf Knowflake Posts: 1620 From: Europe Registered: Oct 2014
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posted December 29, 2016 12:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by Enneline: hahaha thanks a lot, my dear, very kind of you well, yes i am burying him....you know you read for me a few weeks ago and i told you that i had met again that ex-lover and teased him and it was fun and i also apologized to him and said "farewell"- for the rest of our lives. It was pretty clear for me that we are done while on being on good terms (i hate ending affairs and relationships on bad term) but he texted me again for Christmas and i had the feeling it was not the last time i gonna hear from him - despite saying goodbye forever to him....
Oh yes I do remember. Funny with horary...I do tons of horary for practice....I have charts that look like a straight NO and turn out to be a positive yes! lol so this may look like a yes but it's probably a no.....I'm still learning. I always tend to look at what the Moon and Asc are doing...even if main sigs don't contact each other! Him being in the sign of Libra...Being received by Venus I think he's very much looking for harmony and keeping in contact ...especially as Venus is in Aquarius in a fixed sign...and it's in his turned 11th... Good luck to you and let us know.
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Tofu addict Knowflake Posts: 585 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 29, 2016 12:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by Enneline: because i don't want to interpret it wrong and lose hope if it's important to me first some crash test dummies
When you want to learn somethingh you better do it from a solid foundation, not quicksand. It is bad practise to use horary as a test of its merit of fun or any other reason that undermines it
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GeminiKarat Moderator Posts: 3648 From: Austria Registered: Jun 2014
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posted December 29, 2016 12:15 PM
Sooo.... This is a different chart.Moon and Mercury is still peregrine. Mercury retrograde and combust as well. I will go for a yes, within 1 week. Moon applying to Venus. Please keep me updated whether this communication will happen. I am learning as well. . IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30734 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 30, 2016 07:16 AM
Hmm, honestly, I donīt feel too positive about that chart. Here is why: Late ASC - either you already know the answer (you asked too late) or it`s simply that the energy or something will shift in a short time, and that would change matters. (I read an exception is if the late ASC-degree is on the same degree as some important planet or angle in the individual`s charts) In horary the traditional rulerships are being used, so Neptune would not be considered as ruler of DESC, but Jupiter.
But even if we consider Neptune as ruler of the quesited, here despite looking like it, there is actually not an applying aspect, but due to Mercury`s retrogradation Mercury is pulling back. There might be a change of mind, maybe a lot of thinking but eventually deciding against contact, since Mercury rules the querent, you, it might be you who will reconsider and NOT contact. Moon is void of course, too, so it basically translates into: "nothing will happen in this matter" (at least not for now).
Actually all of that fits together with the late ASC. It`s like you`ve been thinking about contact, maybe even both of you, but that you will decide against it, at least for now, anything else can only be said AFTER the shift of energy that is going to happen, as indicated in the late ASC (and actually in the VOC Moon as well). Of course I can be completely wrong.
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30734 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 30, 2016 07:19 AM
Oh sorry, I did not see that Moon is applyin to Venus. Hmm, that is interesting. How know maybe something WILL happen. Though I do wonder if Venus might be his girlfriend actually, as Venus is no significator for any of you. Of course there is the school of thought that Venus is always representing the querent/ quesited if she is being female. Venus is also ruling HIS 3rd house, so hey, maybe there WILL be a contact after all. I am very curious to see how this plays out now. IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 6675 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 30, 2016 08:05 AM
Thanks Ceri don't worry, i am not heartbroken at all this is just that Ex lover and so i used him to practice astrology.but i am confused right now. did you use the old chart? because in the new chart moon is conjunct mercury and not void IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30734 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 30, 2016 08:36 AM
In the chart I am seeing in your post, Moon is not conjunct Mercury though. Can you put up the right chart? IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 6675 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 30, 2016 08:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: In the chart I am seeing in your post, Moon is not conjunct Mercury though. Can you put up the right chart?
I put up the right chart The moon is conjunct mercury in capricorn in the 4th. Very strange.... anyways, email for you in a few seconds and i gonna attach the chart...very strange IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30734 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 30, 2016 09:00 AM
The chart in your post has Moon on 21 Sag, and Mercury is on 8 Cap. But that`s not a conjunction. Hmm, strange. IP: Logged |