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anonymidarkness
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posted April 17, 2018 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do they work?

http://ibb.co/d9r2Wn

http://ibb.co/n8C9Bn

The images aren't getting uploaded here for some reason.

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posted April 17, 2018 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is that your chart or the debilitated
database? I went with another one.
I have 2 debilitated and 1, maybe 2 in
Fall. The outer planet may not count.
I'm still clueless to what they are about though.

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posted April 17, 2018 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Hahaha , it's my chart, " The debilitated database". The way you put it made me laugh lmao.

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posted April 18, 2018 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anekksadh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
exalted planets are in their purest forms, that planet will manifest in the purest form, exalted planets are like vishnu avatars, read the stories of the 10 vishu avatars for each of the 9 planets and lagna (ascendant)

exalted planets are good for spiritual pursuits, they behave more like the natural male energy- purusha

debilitated planets are good for material pursuits and they behave more like the natural feminine energy- devi/shakti, to overcome issues due to debilitated planets one must do the sadhna of the corresponding mahavidya ( basically female diety connected to that planet )

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posted April 20, 2018 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you!

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posted April 21, 2018 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anekksadh:
exalted planets are in their purest forms, that planet will manifest in the purest form, exalted planets are like vishnu avatars, read the stories of the 10 vishu avatars for each of the 9 planets and lagna (ascendant)

exalted planets are good for spiritual pursuits, they behave more like the natural male energy- purusha

debilitated planets are good for material pursuits and they behave more like the natural feminine energy- devi/shakti, to overcome issues due to debilitated planets one must do the sadhna of the corresponding mahavidya ( basically female diety connected to that planet )

Anekk


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posted May 28, 2018 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
How do they work?

http://ibb.co/d9r2Wn

http://ibb.co/n8C9Bn

The images aren't getting uploaded here for some reason.


Do you mean neech banga??

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posted May 28, 2018 02:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyways, if you mean neech bhanga raj yoga, your ascendant lord has to be really strong for the raj yoga to occur ( for YOU to emerge victorious from the difficulties faced). Whether the yoga involves the atmakaraka or the amatyakaraka..that too has to be seen, whether it's involved the functional benefics, or the functional malefics, whether the planets are combust, or in weak degrees..

If raj yogas involved the exchange of the lords ( or the nakshatra lords) of the 6,8, and 12 houses ( the upachaya houses) with the kendra or the trikon lords, it is called Vipreet raj yogas. If they are in their exalted states the negative aspects get enhanced...the degrees at which the planets are found has to be seen, whether the lords have 'power' to act in their respective dasa periods or whether they receive negative aspects from the functional malefics in the chart

There are so many things that has to be analyzed it's quite difficult to explain Vedic concepts in a limited space.

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posted May 28, 2018 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Oh my godd!! How are you Jess???
I'm feeling so happy to see you here loll

The question does not matter, tell me how you are .

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posted May 28, 2018 04:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^ Oh my godd!! How are you Jess???
I'm feeling so happy to see you here loll

The question does not matter, tell me how you are .


Thought you forgot me

I see lots of new names here....

I'm good, lots of things happened, some good some not so good, but overall quite ok now. I'm in a much better place now.

Got married btw Most wonderful thing that happened to me.

How about you? How's life??

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posted May 28, 2018 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Thought you forgot me

I see lots of new names here....

I'm good, lots of things happened, some good some not so good, but overall quite ok now. I'm in a much better place now.

Got married btw Most wonderful thing that happened to me.

How about you? How's life??


Hahah I haven't

Congrats for your marriage!
That's a big change eh. Feels nice to hear from you Jess , been a longgg time.

My life, hmm, lots of things have happened, but everything is looking rather calm atm.

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posted May 29, 2018 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ aww thanks dear

So, let's not derail your thread.

Did you get all that blah I said above?

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posted May 29, 2018 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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all that blah I said above?

Hahah, ya I kinda did. What I was wondering about was how would debilitated Sun function in its house of domicile which is 5th in my chart, also have an Aqua Saturn in 5th, and exalted Mars in 4th. Merely missed having an exalted Moon in 8th too. Will the house have a stronger influence on the planet or would it be the other way around? It hadn't occurred to me that it might form a Neechavanga raja yoga. But yeah, like you said it probably depends upon lot of factors. Vedic sure is a lot complicated though with all kinds of infos available out there which sometimes contradict what is said by the other creating even more confusion lol. Thanks for getting my thread back on track btw .

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posted May 30, 2018 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hahah, ya I kinda did. What I was wondering about was how would debilitated Sun function in its house of domicile which is 5th in my chart, also have an Aqua Saturn in 5th, and exalted Mars in 4th. Merely missed having an exalted Moon in 8th too. Will the house have a stronger influence on the planet or would it be the other way around? It hadn't occurred to me that it might form a Neechavanga raja yoga. But yeah, like you said it probably depends upon lot of factors. Vedic sure is a lot complicated though with all kinds of infos available out there which sometimes contradict what is said by the other creating even more confusion lol. Thanks for getting my thread back on track btw .

First of all, you might just have a moon in her mooltrikona house. I tend to only trust Jhora Software when doing my vedic charts because the degrees and house positions are essential. I don't know which software you used.

Coming back to your question,5th house is a trikona house, ruler saturn in the 5th mooltrikona house makes it quite prominent..since 5th house is the house of dharma. Sun gets directional strength in a chart in the 10th house, yours is in the 5th aquarius, not debilitated though, sun reaches deep debilitation in the 10th degree in Libra, in an enemy sign; saturn, the latter in his Mooltrikona sign, however, it is within the same degree of the sun, wherever the sun is placed in a chart it 'burns' the house, debilitated or not sill the sun, you may struggle a lot with 'authority', or your ego may get hurt, confidence issues, the things you want to DO or the need to assert yourself etc etc, since it is located in your 5th house, you may experience these issues relating to romance, creativity, your passions, things that you love and want to expand, you may find yourself thinking 10 times before you speak what's on your mind. Saturn is combust but since sun is debilitated, with time you will get a grip on all the things that you've struggled before, when the planets mature.
Dispositor of the sun in his mooltrikona house, saturn WILL persevere and determined to succeed, although combust, sat-sun gives a very serious nature, romance may be a serious affair or matters of the 5th house will remain always prominent in your life. Jupiter in the 1st house get directional strength it is aspects the 5th house, dispositor of Ju in the 5th..rahu in the 2nd, dispositor exalted in the 4th, latter's dispositor in his mooltrikona sign. Rahu is strong so is Mars...and I'd say so is Saturn..

SO back to your question, I don't think it's as simple as saying Sun the natural karaka of the 5th is found in the 5th should be getting strength, each planet gets directional strength according to their position, Saturn in the 7th, mars and sun in the 10th, Moon and venus in the 4th so on, HOWEVER STILL these planets may receive negative aspects, the overall drig bala of planets have to be seen. The planets should not receive a negative value when judging their strength.

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posted May 30, 2018 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My godd!! I can't thank you enough for the reading...that too free of cost me is happy lol thank you very mucho! It's very accurate and detailed.

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SO back to your question, I don't think it's as simple as saying Sun the natural karaka of the 5th is found in the 5th should be getting strength, each planet gets directional strength according to their position, Saturn in the 7th, mars and sun in the 10th, Moon and venus in the 4th so on, HOWEVER STILL these planets may receive negative aspects, the overall drig bala of planets have to be seen. The planets should not receive a negative value when judging their strength.

Hmm I actually came across this question when I was trying to calculate the Shadbala of my planets, namely Mars cause I was wanting to see if I have Ruchaka Yoga or not. It does seem to depend upon lot of factors though.

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posted May 30, 2018 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 30, 2018 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you think of Kuja Dosha btw? You have Mars in 8th right?
I am supposed to have Kuja Dosha and I have always enjoyed a bit of conflict in relationships, or sometimes(nah most of the times) created one when there weren't any.

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posted May 31, 2018 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What do you think of Kuja Dosha btw? You have Mars in 8th right?
I am supposed to have Kuja Dosha and I have always enjoyed a bit of conflict in relationships, or sometimes(nah most of the times) created one when there weren't any.

Yes Mars in the 8th in leo. Not considered as kuja dosh. Yours too. It is extremely happy, being in its exalted state. A dominant Mars is best handled in cap and Leo rather than in Aries, it's mooltrikona house. Cap rules your 4th house. That is very significant too. Saturn is a yogakaraka for you. The fact that it is placed in its mooltrikona house, and Mars exalted in Cap, 4th house, I don't see kuja dosha. But Mars is a natural malefic,it rules your 2nd and 7th houses.. Before Mars matures ( before the age of 28 ) you may struggle with the energy of Mars, struggles in the sense that it will bring conflicts to you following unexpected show of aggressiveness at times, that you may 'enjoy' because you would want to 'WIN' for instance in an argument - just because Mars can and will win!But that's not all with your Mars, he is in the 4th house, matters of the 4th house is highlighted too...when Mars matures after the age of 28, you will find a change... I don't know which MD you are running atm. Ketu is 5th from Mars. All your planets dispositors are found in the 5th house. Everything relates back to the 5th house. Dispositors of lagna,4th,5th,8th,9th houses located in 5th. 7th lord Mars in the 4th. 5th house planets is 5th from Moon. Mrs is 6th from Moon.

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posted May 31, 2018 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My godd!! I can't thank you enough for the reading...that too free of cost me is happy lol thank you very mucho! It's very accurate and detailed.

Hmm I actually came across this question when I was trying to calculate the Shadbala of my planets, namely Mars cause I was wanting to see if I have Ruchaka Yoga or not. It does seem to depend upon lot of factors though.


Oh you are welcome


A word of caution : It's not wise to leave your vedic/ navamsa charts with all the details out there on the net, because everything can be seen on the person from inside out..I mean EVERYTHING.

For any yogas to actually happen, it has to be present in the D9 chart too. See where Mars is placed or whether Mars is Vargotama in D9.

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posted May 31, 2018 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Mrs is 6th from Moon.

My my! I'm floored *applauds*

I dated a Scorpio Moon five months back, Scorpio is 6th from Gemini right? I've never felt like I'm a marriage material at all, but if there ever has been someone whom I've wanted to marry, it was her.

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posted May 31, 2018 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh you are welcome


A word of caution : It's not wise to leave your vedic/ navamsa charts with all the details out there on the net, because everything can be seen on the person from inside out..I mean EVERYTHING.

For any yogas to actually happen, it has to be present in the D9 chart too. See where Mars is placed or whether Mars is Vargotama in D9.


Hmm, thanks for the second reading too Jess .

EVERYTHING eh? I liiike how that sounds. Most aren't as good as you though, so they can't do crap. Thanks for the advice, I'll prolly take it down soon. It's so amazing, being able to know everything about a person through few charts lol.

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posted June 01, 2018 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My my! I'm floored *applauds*

I dated a Scorpio Moon five months back, Scorpio is 6th from Gemini right? I've never felt like I'm a marriage material at all, but if there ever has been someone whom I've wanted to marry, it was her.




Can you tell me which Maha dasa was running at that time?

Scorpio moon in Vedic?....Mars aspects your upapada lagna...Mars is your atmakaraka.Jupiter is the amatyakaraka. Moon is darakaraka (spouse).

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posted June 01, 2018 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hmm, thanks for the second reading too Jess .

EVERYTHING eh? I liiike how that sounds. Most aren't as good as you though, so they can't do crap. Thanks for the advice, I'll prolly take it down soon. It's so amazing, being able to know everything about a person through few charts lol.


nah still learning, there's so much more to Vedic, it's truly amazing how deep this science can go ( I call it a science in itself) I'm learning about the Varga charts atm and how to predict events.

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posted June 01, 2018 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Can you tell me which Maha dasa was running at that time?

Scorpio moon in Vedic?....Mars aspects your upapada lagna...Mars is your atmakaraka.Jupiter is the amatyakaraka. Moon is darakaraka (spouse).


Hmm turns out I'm going through Jupiter Mahadasha which started in 2015 and will end in 2031(hope I'm alive till then lol ).

Yea, Scorp Moon in Vedic, there is a chance that her moon might be in Libra thouhgh(if born before noon). Bit knowing her, I feel like she is a Scorp Moon.

Hmm atmakaraka Mars. EDIT: I read the infos on it, yeah it makes a lot of sense. Just reading about Mars http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Graha/Mangala/1Mangala_main_page.htm has gotten me all fired up

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