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26taurus
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posted April 07, 2006 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
I'm expressing my experiences on this lotus. You dont need to agree. Thanks for your imput though.

Btw, It is more powerful to Live your Truth than to preach it.

Later.

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26taurus
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posted April 07, 2006 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Also we have FULL control over who we are. We are not victim to Universal Law. Alot will continue to think so though. And be blown around by the breezes.

Seek within.

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lotusheartone
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posted April 07, 2006 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
It's all very simple..not complicated at all..you don't need to be a rocket scientist..to understand..and know God. ...

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Iqhunk
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posted April 07, 2006 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iqhunk     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for reminding the importance of "Self Worth" from within for Abundance, 26T!
I was just reading Charles Haanel's "Master Key System" where he emphasizes on this as the first step.
It all works together, self worth from within, trust in Universal Abundance and the Money Mystiqe, a synchronous motor churning the eternal wealth of contentment.

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posted April 07, 2006 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pchan33     Edit/Delete Message
I don't want to start a controversy, but I just want to point out that you don't have to be religious or believe in god for the money mistique to work. I am living proof of that.
I respect other people and their religions, but I just wanted to point that out so that others like myself who happen to read this post realize that the money mistique will still work on them .

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Iqhunk
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posted April 08, 2006 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iqhunk     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Sarah,
"Money Mystique" is a scientific law, so yes, it will work irresepctive of belief system. However, believers would attribute the financial success to their particular belief system, be it Islam, Christianity, New Age or even Atheism [Which is just as much a religion as any other].

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SunChild
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posted April 08, 2006 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
26, you're absolutely glowing! You're so wise.


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26taurus
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posted April 08, 2006 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you SunChild!!! What a nice compliment!! I'm trying. .... Or 'learning' is a better word.

Nicely said, Iqhunk! I wholeheartedly agree.

pchann33, I hear you! I dont follow any one type of religion myself. I only believe in the 'God' within each of us. The money mystique just plain works on it's own.

I just wanted to add that my thoughts on this werent coming from a place of judgement or directed at anyone else. I was voicing things that I am still learning about myself. This is a subject of great interest to me, having lived most of my life with a strong poverty consciousness. Which I had been struggling to pull myself out of for a long time.

Lotus, please refrain from telling people how you think THEIR personal universe works. Yes, actually, things HAVE changed in one single instant for me, many times. It's about a shift in perspective. If you dont think it's possible for you to change your world instantly, then you are right. And you wont. You wont bring that particular reality into your world. It will not be true for you because you have chosen not to manifest/believe it for yourself.

You do not live in my body, walk in my shoes or see through my eyes. This is MY earthly experience. One I have chosen to live my own particular way. Just like we all have.
There is no right or wrong route or Way on the path back to oneness. Only choice. Some paths are longer and strewn with more 'obstacles' than others. That is what people have chosen for thier own personal experience. Who are you to tell them which way to go? Or that they are doing it or thinking it wrong. We are all headed in the same direction, some will take longer to get there than others. That should be none of your concern. You are not here to save people. Some people have chosen this lifetime to experience enormous depths of emotion on the way, walk a Thunderbolt Path. Or a path that you might label as wrong. Others will seem to glide on through the human condition and take an easier route. This isnt bad or good, right or wrong. It just is. We all come here for our own learning processes - not anyone elses.

I'm mentioning these things in hope that you might take something from it this time. As right now we are mirroring one another and I have actually learned something from you, but you dont seem to want to open your eyes to anyone else. And ask why they are repeating the same things to you or have just given up talking to you. People here have told you over and over again these same kind of things but you dont get it. And that is okay. But you are stalling your progress by telling OTHERS how to live their own lives and how things should be seen. You can only lead others by example. Point out to them that the path is within, no one else will ever have Your answers.

Lotusheartone's Way is not the sane Way everyone else needs to go. Dont worry so much about others. They are exactly where they need to be on their paths whether you think so or not. What seems like a bad choice to you, may be exactly where that person needs to go in their own learning experience to potentially grow from it. You cannot tell others how to live their lives. That does not help them one bit.

We learn ONLY by our own unique experiences, not by others telling us what to do and think. And we place every seeming hurdle in our own way. It is not the doings of an angry God or bad karma. It is your own God within placing something there to grow from. Or stay stuck at. Always - your choice.

These are golden opportunities for you to possibly realize that it is your very own thoughts that are bringing these problems, people, crisis', etc into your experience.

Change your thoughts and change your world. We are not powerless creatures, stuck in a karmic web. Unless we choose to be.


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26taurus
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posted April 08, 2006 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Pardon my rant.
I had to get it out.

...and since we are all one, encountering people who are reflections of ourselves, it's quite possible that it was meant more for me, than anyone else. lol!

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posted April 09, 2006 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pchan33     Edit/Delete Message

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posted April 09, 2006 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message

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Hope is like a bird that senses the dawn and carefully starts to sing while it is still dark. --Nathaniel Peat

~Wonder of it All~

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Iqhunk
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posted April 10, 2006 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iqhunk     Edit/Delete Message
I love this string, I got 3 super beauties with brains all to myself

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26taurus
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posted April 11, 2006 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Glad to know there are people who understand. It's comforting.

Lotus, I didnt mean to hurt you, if I did. That truly was not my intention.

I think someday you will know that.

We are all here to help in the birthing of each other's awareness. I thank you for helping me with that.

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Kim Rogers
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posted May 24, 2006 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kim Rogers     Edit/Delete Message
I really needed to hear this info. At one point, when I was living with my parents, I tested the tithe theory I gave 2% of my meager disability income, and it helped stretch the $ for the whole month. Now I am roomates with my son, who is also disabled, and we come up short every month. He is trying to get a pt job which isn't happening. I wonder how I can implement this when we start the month with a negative bank balance?

I believe in the power of prosperity, but Steve does not.

Any help or inspirational guidence would be much apreciated.

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Kim Rogers
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posted May 24, 2006 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kim Rogers     Edit/Delete Message
Tell me what you think!

I could start seperating the bills- his & mine. That way it won't be a money pool but more individualized. The problem is when he runs out of money-well,let's just say-I'm a sucker.

Is it possible to give too much? I know that Linda had to file for bankruptcy. I give away a lot (what I consider a lot) of money, and I end up having to write a bad check at the end of the month to just to survive.

I love to give. My heart breaks when I see my friends or my kids going without simple pleasures or nesessities, but then I'm the one who goes without.

I feel like Atlas- who will hold up the world when I fall? How do I become wiser w/o becoming a miser? Feedback please!!!

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posted May 25, 2006 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iqhunk     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Kim,
You need to do additional work on your Aura and Thought Patterns. If you have given away X$, you just have to get 3 times X$.

However, if your outlet pipe is 1 inch diameter and the inlet pipe from the Universe is 1/10th of an inch, then the flow speed is going to be pathetic.

How many hours have you spent thinking less about yourself? How many times did you feel like a victim of circumstances? How many times did you suppress the seed of desire to be very wealthy?

You have to change your mental polarity.
You have to start thinking that you deserve
25,000$ or more every month.

You have to write down your financial goals and mentally affirm for hours that you deserve to be wealthy.

Meditative Visualizations help. You need to imagine sending out all the Navy Blue colour out of your body and Aura, out through the crown of your head into a Sun attached to it. That Sun is your Higher Self, waiting to colect your negative expereinces with wealth
so that the positive storehouse can be sent.

You next need to imagine downloading bright medium green colour of wealth into your Aura. Surround every cell with this bright medium green, lush abundant verdant green. breath in wealth, more of it.

Visualize paychecks with your name written on them. Thousands of them flowing in through crown into your Aura.

Imagine them with this writing very vividly:
Pay Kim Rogers 250 Million Dollars
Pay Kim Rogers 250 Billion Dollars

and so on. Never mind the amount. The Universe is infinite, there is a trillion dollars and more for ever microbe and ant, leave alone humans.

Do this religiously without disappointment. It may take weeks and months but the Inlet pipe will grow bigger and bigger.

Money making opportunities will come. This will spill over into Steve who will change dramatically.

You may be able to consult others who suffered into changing.

You may get book deals.

You may discover better healing methods and train others.

You could suddenly win the lotto when inspired in a dream to fill out the correct numbers.

Trust in God and your Higher Self, your personal you who is already an Angel.

The money will definitely come.

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Kim Rogers
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posted May 25, 2006 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kim Rogers     Edit/Delete Message
If I meditate on wealth won't that be the focus of life? I don't want to be greedy- I just want to live w/o financial fear. I am confused; cuz, I feel like I should meditate on health. I still don't completely understand how to meditate. I ordered a book on it.

Is it possible to meditate on more than one thing w/o getting spread to thin?

I appreciate your input; I am just to new to New Age to comprehend the art of it. can you break it down in beginners terms?

Thank you.

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Kim Rogers
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posted May 25, 2006 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kim Rogers     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Iqhunk, (again)

After my last post I read your reply 3-4 times. I get most of it. All of this thread didn't fall on deaf ears. I was gathering up books to give away, and I found 4 books on meditation. Most I didn't realize I had. After reading & absorbing them I will give those away too.

Is it greedy to keep books, movies... that have sentimental value? Some people collect stamps... but I collect things people give to me as gifts.

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posted May 25, 2006 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminstone     Edit/Delete Message
... hehehe...just saw that this string had grown!! Wow! LOTS!! Cool....

~ geminstone

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Kim Rogers
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posted May 25, 2006 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kim Rogers     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, I forgot; I have a grand Idea for a Sci-fi novel, or even a trilogy. I can't talk about it yet. I am in the process of writing the copyright draft.

I will need 2 people to help me write this; one with a strong science/astonomy background, and one to help with character developement. If anyone is interested or knows someone who might be let me know.

Thanks to everyone who is trying to help me understand. I really appreciate your patience with me, & some of my silly questions.

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Iqhunk
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posted May 26, 2006 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iqhunk     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Kim,
You can meditate on Health and Wealth together, one after the other. Your Soul is infinitely powerful, the Universe is infinitely abundant.
Just start doing what I wrote in the way you feel comfortable. When confusion has been the unfortunate focus for several months, allow wealth and health to be the focus for a few weeks atleast to see the magic.

It is not at all selfish to collect for the sake of giving. The good intention purifies the short term selfishness of the act.
And storing goods for sentiment is not selfish either. Storing with fear that one may not have enough, that alone is dangerous because it blocks the flow.

The rule of giving is to give a maximum of 50% after setting aside for needs. Giving away 100% is not recommended.


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Kim Rogers
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posted May 26, 2006 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kim Rogers     Edit/Delete Message
Iqhunk,

That makes sense. Thanx again.

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posted May 28, 2006 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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posted June 05, 2006 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kamilla     Edit/Delete Message
This is a great thread and I beleive wholeheartedly that it all works. But like someone mentioned at the beginning if you have nothing left after paying bills - 50% of nothing gets you exactly nowhere.

I have been divorced for 18 months and I was scared to death that I won't be able to provide for my daughter and myself. Somehow I managed and many times when I was absolutely desperate money appeared from strangest sources. I make decent money and my daughter, a high school student works part time. We have a nice condo, we drive nice cars and I worked very hard on getting the best deals on mortgage and cars. Unfortunately, the cost of living in the area where I live is very high, mostly due to taxes and insurances - things we have really no control of.

Here is my problem and if someone could help me through it I would be thankful for the rest of my life. I don't hoard, I love to give things away, I am frugal and I would starve before I miss my mortgage payment. However, when I sat down to figure out my budget as a single parent for the first time, I saw very clearly - I don't make enough. But there was no way out, no way back, no one to help.... so I did what seemed the only logical thing to do. I added all my bills, scheduled certain payments to each week and decided that we will live on whatever is left. Well, while all my bills were paid on time, unexpected little expences like gifts, extra doctor visits and prescriptions, small household or car repairs, little help for my parents and sometimes even groceries slowly but surely ate my savings and put me in the red.

Basically I based my budget on ignoring pretty much all of our personal needs besides food. I am not even talking about movies, dinners out and some sort of fun shopping - spending $15 on face lotion is a big decision for me. BTW the pantry/ketchup discussion at the begining of this thread made me smile. My pantry is empty, I just use it as a broom closet. All my canned goods and dry stuff fits in the cupboard. If I have 1/4 bottle of vegetable oil I plan on it to last me 2 weeks. And it does . Generally, when it comes to food I would much rather not have something what I might want, than have something go bad and throw it away.

Anyway, I guess, I just can't get my head out of the sand and admit that whatever I like it or not our personal needs, as small as I try to make them, are still at least twice the size of my allowance. I know, this is such a wrong approach. I mean, if don't value myself enough how can I expect be valued by the Universe and receive not the bare minimum but something to actually enjoy and share.

Any thoughts on where to start?

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