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Topic: The More I Give, The More I Make...
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Randall
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From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 05, 2000 01:56 AM
 
Hello, Knowflakes! For those among you who may be unfamiliar with Linda's "Money Mystique" philosophy, let me digress for a moment. Unlike tithing where a percentage (usually 10 percent) is given to a church, Linda believed a bit differently. She believed that One should first pay all of One's bills. Then, with whatever is left over (not very much for some people), she taught that we should give away half of our surplus. For example, if I had $20 left after paying my bills, hoarding it away in a bank would only stop the flow of Energy. You see, those little bits of green paper with the off-centered Presidents are nothing more than Energy. Commerce exchange is a transfer of Energy between people. Nowadays, it can also just be little digitized information on a computer with no tangible money at all! Now, spending the money on something you would not normally have done is also good; the important thing is to get out of the hoarding mode, circulate money, and keep the Energy flowing. If you give the money away, you should expect nothing in return from the person. The Uni-verse handles that, and the values are different from a Uni-versal perspective. For example, if you give a book that you bought for fifty cents at a yard sale to the public library, the Uni-verse doesn't look at it as a fifty cent book. All the people who read that book from here on out and derive help or joy from it make that book a priceless gift, and you shall be rewarded accordingly. Buying books from an author is a transfer of Energy (money) in exchange for thought, and we should support those authors by buying their books when we can, but many poor people still get to read wonderful books by going to the library. They can't afford to buy many of the books they read, but the authors of those books still get compensated by the Uni-verse every single time that they bring joy to the Hearts of their readers.  That compensation isn't always money; it could be luck, the right job, or any number of other things. Money isn't the only Energy that can be hoarded. Are you hoarding books in a box in the attic? What good is that doing you? Donate them to the library. You'll get a letter thanking you, which will make your Heart grow three sizes larger that day (gotta Love The Grinch)! Selfless giving is its own reward; the Uni-versal rewards are just "gravy." Self-less: Losing Self--that's what giving is all about. But isn't giving to receive from another or from the Uni-verse really being SELFISH? Perhaps, but giving is magical regardless of the motives involved. The Uni-verse doesn't care WHY you give or what you are thinking when you do. The Key is to keep the Energy flowing freely. Let's take Christmas. A totally commercialized holiday to say the least. But even though all of this selfish giving is going on, there is something in the air. They don't call it Christmas Spirit for nothin'! Quiet little Christmas Miracles happen every year at this time.  Selfish or not, giving creates a chain reaction of miraculous Energy that defies description. If you want more money, you have to release more money into the flow.  What do you other Knowflakes think? Peace. 
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"Think wrongly, if you please, but in all cases think for yourself." Doris Lessing
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YIVY
Knowflake Posts: 4747
From: Louisiana
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 05, 2000 06:33 AM
I think Linda was very "on to something" when she shared this "star code" with us. Even the bible with it's lost and twisted codes managed to get this one right.IT IS MORE BLESSED TO GIVE THAN TO RECEIVE!!! What a wonderous and miraculous world this could be if everyone practiced this one tiny little bit of uni-versal magic.  By the by...it DOES work!!!!  ------------------
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YIVY
Knowflake Posts: 4747
From: Louisiana
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posted November 06, 2000 03:34 PM
POSITIVE PROOF!!!My son was down to his last $10.00 of spending money the other day, and still decided to buy something for his poor 'ole mom. Well, the next day in the mail he received a check for $150.00 from something to do with a general lawsuit on the bank he was with. One from two years ago he had forgotten about..he even never signed the letter to include him. Pretty cool!!!
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Randall
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From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 07, 2000 02:17 AM
Cool!  ------------------
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tesstomoct@aol.com
Knowflake Posts: 12
From: Mississippi
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted November 05, 2001 10:53 PM
The $$ mistique sounds good but if you are borrowing from Peter to pay Paul how do you get out of the vicious circle. I do give small offerings to various needs that come my way on occisions. But to say I can give half of everything left after paying bills would be half of nothing. Needing more insight,
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YIVY
Knowflake Posts: 4747
From: Louisiana
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 05, 2001 11:47 PM
Tess...I was like you years back. But one day I decided to heck with it (probably I had told myself before I was born here that I would like the 'challenge' of trying to make things work)....and started thinking of my few dollars as not the last ones I had.I SPENT THEM...actually down to the last penny. Then I quit worring. I acted like money would show up when I need it...and it did. Oh, I had a few more ups and downs..like the Uni-verse was testing me to see if I was serious. And I had set backs where I would panic. But I found if I quit panicing and started not believing, but KNOWING I no longer had money problems...it started showing up. I would imagine there are also some Karma attachments to having to struggle...but if you can acknowledge them and rise above them, things will work out. I also found out I could not save. Everytime I tried to save money, the flow dropped off. So I do keep a little ahead, but for things I want.
I don't act like I am keeping it forever. I hope this helps...  Purple Leprechaun...   ------------------
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gemini5er
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From: South
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted November 06, 2001 12:43 AM
Randall,How does debt figure into the money mystique? If we pay off our debts then we free more of that energy to spend or grow it other better areas? I know getting rid of a lot of my debt was very freeing in a lot of ways, and I used a simple method in a book called Financial Peace by Dave Ramsey. I really believe in the power of the money mystique, and I think it also applies in the giving of our energy in other ways too. That great energy could be released in thoughts, like the authors of books, but also in our actions of performing a kind deed or saying something nice, or sme other little magical elf deed,too, what do you think Randall?
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chronicprincess
Knowflake Posts: 3080
From: Earth
Registered: May 2001
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posted November 06, 2001 01:44 AM
Gemini5er~ I think uniVersal Law works in paying off debt too... I think the more effort we put into it oursElves, the more help the uniVerse gives us toward that end too.The Law of Abundance is alive and well out there in the Magical UniVerse, but so many can't enjoy it because they can't *give* freely, willingly, and without expectations - unconditionally; when we learn to give only because it makes another feel happier, more cared for, more loved, or more nurtured ...or inspired, that is when the uniVerse takes notice When the uniVerse sends back to me what I have given, it actually makes me feel proud, like when I was a kid and got a  for *good citizenship*  ~Princess IP: Logged |
Randall
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From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 06, 2001 02:28 AM
I totally agree, Gemini. We could write a book on just that. ------------------
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Meercatt
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posted November 06, 2001 11:11 AM
If the whole world was busy giving to and doing for one another, no one would want.  IP: Logged |
Virgo Rising
Knowflake Posts: 968
From: Melb Fl
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted November 06, 2001 11:25 AM
I want to know how many Cancers have accomplished 'letting go'. I almost had heart failure when I read the part about giving up books (actually, I do OCCASIONALLY pass them on after agonizing over running out of room to store them) I am now very selective about the ones I add to the collection. 'Secret Teachings of All Ages' is on order!!
Funny this came up because I recently organised the canned food collection in my house and discovered that we have 5-7 cans of several items, 3 bottles of squeeze mustard, 7 or 8 containers of BBQ sauce, etc, etc. ( The Scorpio and Taurus are guilty of stockpiling this time ). I am clearing out the excess TODAY for a local charity! IP: Logged |
Virgo Rising
Knowflake Posts: 968
From: Melb Fl
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted November 06, 2001 01:03 PM
I had to pop back in and lOOk to see who put this thread back up to the top and say THANK YOU.......Tess!!!
I decided to climb back on my chair (ugh) and check out the drygoods section before making the donation run. I had over 20 pkgs of pasta in there! How embarrassing is that? Plus dried beans, rice, soup mix and the list goes on. And this household is always moaning that there's nothing good to eat around here. Wake up call.
Not sure where I'm going to find containers to transport this stuff, but I WILL find a way to get it all out of here. When is the last time anyone else has straightened out their pantry? My kitchen isn't large and I found a LOT of excess....a little Fall cleaning could really help out a local charity! IP: Logged |
YIVY
Knowflake Posts: 4747
From: Louisiana
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 07, 2001 12:46 AM
YIKES, VR...I don't even want to think about mine. One time I got on a catsup kick. Every time I went grocery shopping I honestly couldn't remember if I had catsup or not.Then one day I took a good look and realized I had 10 bottles. I finally had to put on my list DO NOT BUY CATSUP...although I can't remember if I am out now or not And we really don't eat that much catsup. ------------------
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NeptunianIdeal
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From: CA
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted November 07, 2001 04:40 AM
It's great to hear more wisdom from ye, Randall! Keep it up  You guys are great. All this stuff helps a WHOLE lot By Universal standards, everyone at this site should be getting one helluva Cosmic Paycheck for all the great stuff they contribute to it. LOve
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Virgo Rising
Knowflake Posts: 968
From: Melb Fl
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted November 07, 2001 09:55 AM
I'm going to be a pest and suggest one more time that anyone who has a crowded pantry take a good lOOk at what you've got that you don't need. I found a big plastic container to put all my stuff in and it weighed 50 lbs!! (no exaggeration) I STILL ended up with a well stocked food supply after giving all that away. I am amazed at how much food we were hoarding when so many go hungry...I'm still not over the guilt. IP: Logged |
chronicprincess
Knowflake Posts: 3080
From: Earth
Registered: May 2001
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posted November 07, 2001 12:27 PM
YIVY~ Catsup? too funny! VR~ You go girl! but don't feel guilty!  How about feeling blessed that you had stuff to share  I will bet you anything that your offering came at *just the right time* for *someOne* - and all is as it should be ~Princess IP: Logged |
tesstomoct@aol.com
Knowflake Posts: 12
From: Mississippi
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted November 07, 2001 01:22 PM
Hi YIVY,My Guides even told me $ was not a problem for me, but each mo. I have to come up with some. Not "panicing" is a good way to put it. I am trying to just pay what I can and then focus on something else. Thanks for the reply. What does the Purple Leprechaun stand for. When I first visited the Lindaland site I saw a place that gave the meanings of the Icons but I don't know where it is now. Tess IP: Logged |
tesstomoct@aol.com
Knowflake Posts: 12
From: Mississippi
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted November 07, 2001 01:27 PM
Virgo Rising,I read the "THANK YOU...TESS!!! but don't understand why. "who put this thread back up to the top...". What is a thread, and back up to the top of what? New to this,
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Knowflake Posts: 12
From: Mississippi
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted November 07, 2001 01:31 PM
Gemini5er,You are so right about feeling free when debet is cleared up. I did experence it on one occision. Tell me more about the book you mentioned, Financial Peace. Tess IP: Logged |
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From: Mississippi
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted November 07, 2001 01:42 PM
PS Gemini5er,Like what you said about giving in other ways than $. I often visit with a friend, make a phone call, send a card, or just something to give back to life, sunshine, blue skies and even cozy rainy days wrapped up in a blanket, to give something back to the blessing of being. Being here, being loved, being who I am, finding out each day that I am more than I use to be and know that I can be more tomorrow. And finding cool websites, and people like this one. Tess IP: Logged |
Virgo Rising
Knowflake Posts: 968
From: Melb Fl
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted November 07, 2001 01:59 PM
Tess....ROTFLMAO....sorry, I have a very warped sense of humor. I am not trying to be mean, just found that VERY funny!!
Purple Leprechaun is a screen name for a someONE not an icon I can't wait to hear what he tells you he 'stands for'
I am really sick if I'm the only one who found that line hysterical. To get the icons, you click on the 'smilies legend' in small print to the left of the box you type your reply in.
A 'thread' is a subject....like this on is 'the more I give, the more I make'
All the threads are listed under the topics ...this one is 'Labors of Love'...and the latest one replied to moves to the top of the list! Welcome by the way and enjoy! IP: Logged |
chronicprincess
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From: Earth
Registered: May 2001
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posted November 07, 2001 05:04 PM
VR~ Now I can't wait for Dan's response  ------------------
~We can try many ways to get rid of the darkness, but none is as effective as simply increasing the light.~ UnkNown IP: Logged |
Virgo Rising
Knowflake Posts: 968
From: Melb Fl
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted November 07, 2001 10:59 PM
Randall....I think we should have a leprechaun smilie! Tess may have started a good thing. Can one be made?IP: Logged |
YIVY
Knowflake Posts: 4747
From: Louisiana
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 08, 2001 12:27 AM
Tess..when you learn to do the smilies...they are going to make you  They are the most addicting things  But so very much fun!!!And don't worry about asking questions...I was 'newer' than you can imagine when I first started  Glad to have you here, Tess. Did I mention WELCOME...
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gemini5er
Knowflake Posts: 128
From: South
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted November 08, 2001 12:30 AM
Financial Peace was written by Dave Ramsey...in softcover costs about $13
Dave has a syndicated radio talk show that was called the money game but now syndicated is called the dave ramsey show. he answers questions related to financial matters, especially how it pertains to getting rid of debt. He disagrees with most financial experts, and I love that he is such a rebel. His wisdom is true wisdom born of pain (that's a line from I'm Woman...Hear me Roar, I use it ever chance I get!) as Dave and his wife faced ruin when Dave who in the eighties bought the idea of highly leveraged capital and owned a bunch of rental property that he owed what it was worth, and his bank was sold and the new bank called all the loans due in 30 days...they were living off of credit cards and he faced bankruptcy, at the same time working as a salesman on commission only, anyway he has been through it all himself, the bill collectors calling the house and the threatening letters and the whole 9 yards, so his answers are tried and true...I heard his show and bought his book, he has written others and his company the Lampo Group in Nashville, TN does seminars and personal financial counseling. He does not sell investments, just his seminars, books and counseling. Anyway, the basic idea is the debt snowball. First you want to begin an emergency fund. the ideal emergency fund has at least 1,000 in it, working your way up to 3-6 months of your family's living expenses. So begin by putting away 1,000 to be used only in emergency...like in a savings account, something that you can get your hands on within 24 hours if you need to. Second is to make a list of all your debts, largest at the top of the list and smallest at the bottom. These do not include your monthly living expenses like groceries or electricity or gas or rent. Just the debts. then beside them list their minimum monthly payments. You just make the minimums except for the smallest one, and you start sending extra to that one to get it paid off quicker. Then once the littlest one is gone, you free up that minimum payment that you were making and add it to the minimum on the next one, sending as much extra as you can until that one is paid off. Each extra bit accelerates the time it takes to pay off the one at the bottom of the list, and you progress up the list. Many people have used this method over a period of months and years to get rid of tens of thousands of $ of debt, including paying off credit cards, cars, and houses. It is remarkably simple and you don't even have to buy his book to do this. Other things he teaches are: go on a cash budget...put your emergency fund in place and cut up your credit cards (that you think you need in case of an emergency) He calls that plastic surgery and he gives away stuff on the radio to people who call in and cut up their cards on the air. The cash budget is not using credit cards or checks as a way to pay for groceries or anything else that is a regular monthly out of pocket expense. make a realistic budget...spend the entire month on paper before you begin and stick to it because you include stuff like savings, eating out or going to the movies or tithing or whatever. To stick to it, it must be realistic. Then take that cash when you get your check (write checks for your bills) and divide that cash into envelopes and spend the green stuff out of the envelopes. Dave says statistics show we are more careful with actual cash (we often spend more with checks or credit cards when we go to Wal Mart or wherever) I attest the cash budget really works, and you don't do the thing over and over again, "Where did it all go?" 'cause you already decided where it would go, and you when the green is gone, it is gone...takes some getting used to, but really works. Additionally Dave advocates buying term insurance and insuring both Dad and Mom, based on the "replacement cost" of each person's earning or work power, generally 750,000 to 1,000,000 for each person even if Mom stays at home with kids, what it would cost for daycare, maid, chauffer, etc if she was gone (who says stay at home Moms or Dads don't work?) Term life is remarkably cheaper than universal life (insurance should not be used as an investment) universal and other complex policies accrue some kind of small interest but is much more expensive and premiums go up rather than straight term which stays the same over the term of 10, 20 or 30 years, so you can buy more term and get the larger amount at death (assuming you did not choose immortality)and it does not have the same restrictions. Dave advises that you should never finance anything that doesn't go up in value (car only goes down, house goes up) No you don't have to buy a new car! Once you pay off the car you have or sell it to get rid of that nasty car note, continue to make that payment into a savings account (paying interest to you rather than GMAC) and after time goes by trade your paid for car with your saved up cash for a nicer newer used car. Dave drives a used Mercedes, personally my next new used car will be a truck. Dave advises against bankruptcy in alsmost all cases he says paying the creditors can be done. They key to getting rid of the debt is getting mad at what it (you) has done to your life and often your marriage. With the emotion behind a committment to free yourself even the most hopeless situation can be turned into a victory. It is true. It is hard, often requires a second job (been there, done that). Ben Franklin said "neither a borrower nor a lender be" and most certainly we all can understand the negative entanglements incurred by borrowing (me thinks Saturn is in charge of those lessons) we submit ourselves as slaves to the master, so to speak. Free will is the key, every $ we spend it is a choice. Dave's take on the money mistique is Biblical, and he encourages tithing and planned giving as spiritual investment, and I give him an A for that. He has lots of other advice but that is Financial Peace in a nutshell for all of you Knowflakes who want to free up your cash so you can give more. I "tithe" but not to a church, I give to other concerns and sometimes it is not $ but time or energy or as Virgo Rising has advised, STUFF (Catsup) we are not using!!! More good energy released into the ethers and the economy is good spiritual and financial sense. Good luck Tess and welcome! Thanks for this thread Randall! ------------------
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