posted April 09, 2003 12:42 AM         

Well RubyRedRam, it would be a blast! Can you see us, posting messages even during labour, in between contractions, and having a global cosmic birthing event online?

I wouldn't put _anything_ past two April 17 Aries women with hormones raging!!

We'll have to submit it to the angels for consideration.

posted April 09, 2003 08:45 AM         

Hey, no kidding! The truth is (at least it worked that way for me, twice) that the busier you keep yourselves during labor (translate: distractions; not feats of physical daring, lol) the better off you'll be.

In the earlier stages before setting off for the hospital, posting messages or otherwise occupying oneself at the computer is actually a very good idea. Back in "my day" (lol) I had to settle for talking, talking, talking on the telephone!

...And I'LL be there to "coach" you along!!

posted April 09, 2003 09:07 AM           

Acutally that is really handy to know because my sister is due in early June and I should start asking some advice seeing its her first time. She is a little scared about labor but mum will be there and her fiance is just wonderful

posted April 10, 2003 05:14 AM         

The world's not ready for _that_.

Right now I'm having my birthday chart done by a local astrologer -- just to see where I'm at -- so perhaps in a few days I'll have a better answer to when's a good time to get going.

Signs? I'm open! I'd hope for a happy little fire or air child like me and my partner (he's a Gemini), but we have enough earth and water between us so a child of those elements would aspect just as easily with us. And might teach us a lot more than if we saw ourselves reflected as closely. What's dear to your heart?

So here's a question for Twin Lady, Astro-Labour Coach (you should get business cards made). Did you plan for or pray for particular signs for your children?

Laptop...

posted April 10, 2003 06:03 AM           

We will be having a boy first (so Luc tells me) So Gemini would suit me too or Libra. I have 3 Leos in my family already so no more!!! and my sister will have a Gemini bub and our kids will be more like brothers and sisters than cousins. Gemini sounds a goer look out September here we come! (some year )

posted April 10, 2003 11:48 AM         

Yes, I pretty much did plan (or rather, hope) for the signs of my children; re-read my post of April 5th (page 1) for the details of their signs and planets' connections with mine.

I have karmic ties with both my girls, and the sign of Pisces connects all 3 of us. My younger daughter has a Pisces Sun, my older daughter, Pisces Moon, and I have Pisces Ascendant!! (And incidentally, I love that...because with any problems that have challenged us...whether from outside sources or between ourselves...that Piscean influence has taken us far towards ultimately resolving them with the all-encompassing love and desire for peace that generally is associated with this sign).

There is one thing, though. We can plan and plan all we want, but I've found that if there's some karma to be worked out, it will show up in the charts. For example, with all my beautiful connections to each of them...my older daughter's Saturn and Pluto conjunct my natal Neptune within 3 and 2 degrees respectively, and a slightly wider orb with my Moon; PLUS her Ascendant conjuncts MY natal Saturn within1 degree. My younger daughter's Saturn opposes my Sun within1 degree and her Pluto conjuncts my Moon within 3 degrees. Defininately some karma there!

I like to think that our Higher sELVES, knowing the challenges we would be confronted with in this lifetime with each other, made certain to "compensate" by blessing us with the special ties as well. My older daughter and I share Sunsigns (our BDs are 1 day apart) and our Moon and Ascendant involve the same 2 signs only in reverse (my Moon in Scorp, her Ascendant Scorp; my Ascendant Pisces, her Moon in Pisces). This has given me a deep understanding of, therefore plently of tolerance for, her sometimes difficult attitudes and behaviors. When others have tried to find fault with how I'd deal with her, I just smile a little to myself (if at times ruefully), KNOWING exactly where she is coming from. Many times over the years, raising her has felt like looking in a mirror and seeing my younger sELF...and that is a humbling experience, I can tell you! But the infinite reward comes when she confides to me that she trusts me, feels safe with me, and is "so glad your my MOM".

My younger daughter, along with her Sun conjucting my Ascendant, also has her Chiron conjuncting my Sun and I think Magi Astrology says something about the significance of that tie. Also her Moon, while not close enough technically to be conjunct, IS in the same sign as my Venus (Taurus) and I feel that says a lot about the total love I feel for her.

So...to finish this long post, if you are able to "plan" children born with good connections with your "personal" planets (Sun, Moon, Venus, etc.), I believe these ties can aid you in coping with any karmic ones coming from those outer planets (Saturn, Pluto, etc.). I hope that makes sense.

"Astro-Labor Coach"...I like that! I'm not exactly an "expert"...but I am a "veteran" so to speak (with the stretch marks to prove it) so if I can be of any help at all, please don't hesitate, okay?

posted April 14, 2003 12:45 AM         

You can hold the Celestial Stopwatch!

Lunargirl

posted April 14, 2003 10:52 AM         

Hey, this will be great; Randall with the celestial stopwatch and coaching with the breathing and me talking you through it!! LOL Teamwork!

posted April 18, 2003 01:15 AM         

Here's a past thread for women wishing to become pregnant... heh heh RRR, do we tell the boys about it, or not?

(Just kidding!! Of COURSE we tell them-- then they shake their heads in disbelief, then you and I go ahead anyway!!!)
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000312.html

posted April 20, 2003 05:39 PM         

You know, I get the impression Lucas and Andre are alike in some ways too... they solidly believe in us, if not necessarily in all _our_ beliefs.

I know Andre wants a little girl, so even if he didn't actually believe in the ritual, he'd shrug and say "what's the harm in trying?". Actually he probably wouldn't be paying much attention to what's going on _under_ the bed, if you know what I mean! Me, I used to want a little boy -- I had this notion of wanting Tall Sons -- but in the past two years have done a lot of work on myself, trying to truly get to a place where I let go of expectations or biases against (heavens forbid) either one... or what might happen if we choose to parent in a non-biological way.

This past week Andre was hired "permanently" at his company -- he passed his probation with flying colours! -- and so I think we will take some time to build up our financial situation again before having another "kidtalk" -- and who knows, he might yet surprise me, by suggesting we use that ritual!

You never know with a Gemini, or a Cancer. They do like surprise.

posted April 22, 2003 12:47 AM           

Congrats to Andre!!!! That sounds great for you both

I could imagine Lucas rolling his eyes about that ritual and then later on asking
'so...did u do that spell thingy??'. Just incase it worked you know

Either way I am happy with whatever as long as I have children in my life one way or another

I remeber my cancerian mum was much the same as me and whenever there was a crisis in our small town or a death everyone would flock to our house. Our friends always felt comfortable with my parents and they had our rumpus room set up with games and 8-ball, darts, music etc for all our friends. Thats what I want in my life. Sometimes it would be a house full of my brothers footy mates or my sisters friends or mine and sometimes all at the same time!!! Mum thrived on it and dad just went with it

Whenever Luc's footy team has a game down where mum and dad live we take a few of the boys so mum can fuss over them and make them breakfast before the big game etc. I look after them any other time

posted May 01, 2003 04:06 AM           

Untill then I am bringing all of my excess love here!! (not that you guys will be neglected when I do have kids!).

posted May 02, 2003 01:34 PM         

I think that a LOL needs the support of others (er um, well uh, it _does_ begin with two, yes? ). By that I mean just having people to talk to, take a turn, or find a laugh in the middle of the sticky mess. She's lucky to have you - because I know you can make distance disappear.

How to ask this... are you going to have support around that time, my Aries sister? I'm sure everyone who reads this thread will be sending you love around that time.