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O'Irish
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posted December 12, 2006 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for O'Irish     Edit/Delete Message
I was just very surprised moments ago as I was watching HGTV... "If Walls Could Talk" program. A couple had purchased this home that had been owned by 'Linda Goodman'... and that no one knew where she went, she just vanished (???). The house was in tact, to include food in the cupboards, quilts on the beds, mounds and mounds and boxes and boxes of astrology information, address books with the likes of Tony Bennett, Fred Astaire, and many movie stars we've all heard of. I was quilting at the time it came on, so I really wasn't paying much attention initially, until they began discussing this woman who was an astrologer, who had disappeared... eventually, going through her things, files, data, etc., they learned she was a very famous astrologer, Linda Goodman. This was fascinating... I don't know if it will be repeated later tonight, as the HGTV programs often are. And folks, I'm here to appoligize, because I did not know Linda had passed away. I'd really like more information about her passing, when, etc., and why her house was left fully furnished, all her documents and files left there in tact... and literally, the house was sold as is, contents included. There was even an original manuscript of one of her books. I have several of Linda's books, but haven't had the necessary time for astrology these past few years, so I'm out of the loop. Any light you all can shed on this would be greatly appreciated! The information from the HGTV website for this particular "If Walls Could Talk" episode, is below:
If Walls Could Talk ...
Episode WCT-1601
AIR TIMES:
• December 12, 2006 6:00 PM ET/PT
Cracking Open the Past...
First, it may be remote but Cripple Creek, Colo., is like a mecca to followers of a famous astrologer who lived in the small mountain town until the day she disappeared into thin air. When Janice and Rick Wood moved into her 1898 brownstone, they were astonished at what they found inside. Next, the 1700s Colonial of Maryan and Jeffry Muthersbaugh was so dilapidated they were happy just to get the layers of outrageous wallpaper down. So imagine their surprise when they discover their home has a link to old Hollywood and a mysterious safe. Then, when Robert Williams and Heike Grigsby first find pieces of glass in the attic of their 1899 Victorian in Montgomery, N.Y., they figure they have a lot of cleaning up to do. When the glass is held up to the light they discover it is not trash at all—and that is just the beginning. Finally, we return to the Muthersbaughs' house to see an expert safe-cracker open that basement safe....

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posted December 14, 2006 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nannyk     Edit/Delete Message
I too was semi-watching that show on Tuesday. And when I heard the name Linda Goodman it sparked my attention. I work in a small town courthouse and she had contacted the office that I work in requesting some information. I wrote and spoke to her several times. This was in 1992. She was working on a book called "Hazelwood". She sent me a copy of the manuscript, research papers and photos. I found all of this very interesting back then. I didn't know that she was a famous author until the other night when I saw the show. The book "Hazelwood" apparently was never published. The book was about how she believed that Abraham Lincoln was her Great Great Grandfather. That he had fathered two illegitiment daughters. Throughout the years I often wondered if the book was ever published. I dug out all the papers and pictures after I saw the show and confirmed that the Linda that was featured on HGTV was the same one that I had done research for back in 1992. This has been very interesting. I didn't get to see all of the episode as I was working around the house and only really started paying attention to the show when I heard her name. By going out on these sights that feature Linda, it seems that her writings have touched alot of peoples lives.

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posted December 15, 2006 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for O'Irish     Edit/Delete Message
NannyK... thanks so much for posting your note. How very exciting to think you were dealing with Linda several years ago... and how awesome that she sent you her manuscript, pictures and all! I wasn't paying full attention either to the program the other night, until I heard them talking about a "famous astrologer" who had owned the home... and so on. After I posted the other night, I read some of the old posts and noted that this program had been on before... back in September of this year I believe. Anyway, your story is very exciting. I'm eager to learn more about her, when she died, how she died... and why on earth she would have left everything in that house on Carr Street fully intact like someone was still living there, food in the cupboards, quilts on the beds, clothes in the closets, jewelry, all her pictures, her momentos, all the "Alice in Wonderland" memorabilia she had all over the house... AND all her astrology files, charts, books, her address book with the famoius hollywood movie stars... (I am sassuming that they consulted her for astrology..??), her original manuscripts... even a box of books from the publisher... her "Venus Trine..." book, several copies of it. I have had several of her books over the past few years. But just ordered "Gooberz"... should have it within the next week or so. I really am curious about what the story is regarding her just up and leaving the house and all it's contents the way she did. Of course the host on If Walls Could Talk indicated that she was a famous astrologer... who simply vanished without a trace! I've read some other posts that indicate she built or bought another home farther up in Cripple Creek and moved there.
I do hpoe that someone else here on this forum has some good input and can fill in the blank spaces for me. I'm really interested. Thanks again NannyK for posting! Your story is really awesome too. The astrology things she left in the house, the charts, all her notes, info, etc., would have been a treasure-trove for someone interested in astrology. What a find! Of course the people who bought the home and discovered all of it had not the least bit of interest in any of it. Unbelievable!

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posted December 15, 2006 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
this makes me cry . ....

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posted December 15, 2006 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for O'Irish     Edit/Delete Message
lotus... can you be more specific?

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posted December 15, 2006 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
this is Our Life. ...

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posted December 15, 2006 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpio23     Edit/Delete Message
So, what I'd like to know is, where is all this information now? If Linda did actually finish her book on Lincoln why hasn't anyone pushed to have it published? It sounds like Linda left behind enough stuff to have her own museum. I have heard that other relics of hers have been found over the years.

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posted December 15, 2006 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for O'Irish     Edit/Delete Message
Scorpio23,
My guess answer to your questions would be to contact the buyer's of Linda's home on Carr St. in Cripple Creek. I'm not sure but I think the present owners are the original buyers. Although it's been turned into a B&B and is for sale, and has been for sale it appears for quite a long time... there are ways to contact the present owners/operators of the B&B which I think is called the Last Dollar Inn. Check these two websites here below: http://www.cripple-creek.co.us/lastdinn.htm http://www.bbonline.com/forsale/lastdollar/index.cfm?type=state&refstate=co
I would think the original buyer's would either still have all her documents, manuscripts, research, files, addresses, etc., OR they would have passed them along to someone else in the Astrology world.

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posted December 15, 2006 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thorshammer     Edit/Delete Message
i think that those that have found things...i wouldn't doubt that there were notes to only reveal when the right person came forward...and that they would know who it was.

i think that when others start to write about things she wrote about, THEN and only then will thing come to be mentioned.

for example the gentleman that bought Linda's books she collected over the years. he said that things she had written in books and such...he didnt understand, so they sat there for awhile, until we started to buy them, I always thought he was just a holder of these things until the right time came for others to find them and pick the gems...meaning that depending on what book a person bought...what would you do with that book; would you just read it and put it away as a Linda Keepsake or would you prosper on and find out what she was looking for and find more out.

so what ever is found, its suppose to be dealt with by the person who found it, IF they want to take the challenge or passed on to someone that will do it.

I can't remember where in Star Signs its said, but linda said to add on to her words pertaining to things...if you keep learning you will learn more than the teacher, becoming the master in the end.

You rediscovering this manuscript is a wonderful holiday treat...This just shows, it never gets old...NEVER!

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posted December 15, 2006 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nannyk     Edit/Delete Message
I found out that there is a web sight called Conscious Evolution. I went there and if you click on "Linda Goodman" and then go to the subject "another forthcoming book that didn't make it" there is someone named "Write On". It sounds like she has quite a bit of the Linda's work that was never completed. I have copied it to this reply. This has been such an adventure for me. I live in a very small town and this is so fasinating to me.

Re: another forthcoming book that didnt make it
#157688 - Fri Oct 06 2006 09:55

Hi Daisy,

I have been working for many years now to pull together a full picture of Linda's life. Back when our site was LindaGoodman.net, and before even Auriel and Dave were hired to answer astro questions on it, Greg and Crystal flew me out to California to discuss our working together to publish the "official" Linda Goodman biography. Greg and I were immediately in synch, but Crystal Bush and I were immediately at odds. For me, it was just a vibe I immediately picked up from Crystal that immediately put me off. I had wanted to like her, but I honestly couldn't wait to get out of there once I met her. Greg always kindly begged understanding of her, so I haven't mentioned my feelings about her until now. But anyway...

I was and am friends with a number of Linda's friends, some of whom had very trustingly handed over a lot of their own things from Linda, which Linda had given them, to Crystal ... and Crystal, promising their return in a week, had never and STILL has never given them back to those friends of Linda these many years later.

In similar fashion, Crystal wanted me to do all the work on a book she would take credit for. I declined in no uncertain terms.

Nevertheless, with the help of Linda's true friends and the encouragement of Gregory, I have continued to work on gathering everything I can. And finally, as of Oct. 1 of this year, I'm devoting full time to the project. You would be amazed at the number of people Linda actually did give copies of various things to. And, once they understood me and what I'm doing and that I'm for real, many of these things have passed into my hands.

I do have copies of all of Linda's work (manuscripts and research notes) on the three "forthcoming books" she meant to publish -- Hazelwood, Twelfth Night Secrets, and Spider Line. I also have the manuscript of Captains, the book Goober wrote. Plus I have a number of her own notes in her own handwriting on some of these matters, and I have a number of the books Linda learned from herself when she was teaching herself astrology and other codes. These are her copies of those books, again with her handwritten notes in the margins.

I just completed an interview Thursday with two of her friends and have other interviews lined up for next week. I'm planning to phone "Finbar O'Malley" (not his real name) today, and the lady who cared for one of Linda's gurus (the Twelfth Night Secrets guru) at the end of her life has said that I can come look at what that guru left with her. I have never wanted to aggressively push this project, but rather to wait until things began to come together of their own accord, which is exactly what's happening now.

Spider Line is about Linda's search for Sally. It's that specific. And the phrase itself, as Greg said here on this site before, refers to a physical feature of Sally that Linda believed she would be able to identify Sally by if ever she were to see her in the flesh again.

Love,
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posted December 16, 2006 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for O'Irish     Edit/Delete Message
Nanny... what a great letter to share with us! Awesome. I wonder where this Maria is.
You know, the well-know pros in the astrology world pretty much know each other and have over the years, I just wish there would be more information available. This IS fascinating, and the more I can learn about this grand woman, the more excited I will be. I think I will try to find the website..."Conscious Evolution" that you mention... sounds fascinating. It sounds in a way, that she was alone the last years of her life?? I'm still stumped as to why she would leave all her things in the house on Carr street... just seems bizarre to me. I would have thought she would have had them all packed up, cataloged, stored for safe keeping. Thanks again so much! By the way, where did you find this letter of Maria's?? I can't find it on Conscious Evolution, but just getting ready to listen to some tape recording of Linda's, a tape thought to be blank that a lady found in an old desk she bought at Linda's estate sale...
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I found out that there is a web sight called Conscious Evolution. I went there and if you click on "Linda Goodman" and then go to the subject "another forthcoming book that didn't make it" there is someone named "Write On". It sounds like she has quite a bit of the Linda's work that was never completed. I have copied it to this reply. This has been such an adventure for me. I live in a very small town and this is so fasinating to me.
Re: another forthcoming book that didnt make it...
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I’ve had to sit and ponder this for a couple of days. Much energy was surging through my soul and I didn’t want to do a Saggi thing, which is put a foot in my mouth, BUT I don’t have time to worry about the outcome…what’s meant to be said, will be said.

When I got an email from Randall asking to become the Moderator of Linda’s Life, I was really excited and scared at the same time. It’s a big responsibility to watch over something so HUGE as a person’s life. It becomes a task that needs to be nurtured, EVEN when the traffic isn’t as vast as other Forums; it’s still a wonderful thing.

Many of you don’t know, but at first I turned it down. I had a talk with someone (not a member of our community) who really can’t stand our place of meeting. I cannot judge her, for this is her opinion and I do respect it and talk to her many times when problems in my life would arise. So when she told me it was a good idea not to become Moderator, I took that advice.

BUT

I couldn’t sleep, I couldn’t think, I just thought of Linda, Linda, Linda, and of course after talking to Lotus and Noreenz, I came to the realization that I was suppose to take this position. Of course I wrote Randall back and told him I did want the job and that my obvious arrogance had stopped me from taking it in the first place. At first I didn’t hear from him, in fact I never heard from him…I just saw a topic congratulating me on joining the squad…leave it to a cappi to be so quiet.lol.

In the effect I THOUGHT I lost my close friend, I thought she was mad with me for taking the moderator job and I didn’t hear from her forever…since I took the job! The other day I contacted her on the event of this whole topic of “HAZELWOOD” and she like I was outraged. Though she thought that my telling NANNYK that putting it on the website was wrong because it was a copyright violation…to me there was more behind it than that.

After NANNYK posted the topic from Conscious Evolution on “THE BOOKS” I just lost my top…because there is more to this than meets the eye and I just had to take some action…. I am just saying right now, THE BATTLE IS ABOUT TO BEGIN.

For those of you that don’t frequent Linda’s life, that don’t know about Linda’s other books, like poetry and such, you probably won’t know what I am talking about. I have always found it so odd that a site about Linda Goodman with so many different forums…many people don’t know some of the most minor things about her. You hear all the time….” I didn’t know that…when did that happen? REALLY!” Sometimes it seems that it’s more of a playfield and less about what this woman talked about.

HAZELWOOD is about Linda’s theory that Abe Lincoln was her Great, Great Grandfather, that he had two children by a woman of royal family and that possibly his Wife Mary Todd might have shot him. You can go to this link, though It’s not the only one that talks about it. http://www.illuminati-news.com/mary-todd-killed-lincoln.htm
Now, I think its great that these Manuscripts have all of a sudden just mysteriously POPPED up. That someone named NANNYK who just registered on our site this month and also another named O’IRISH registered the same month, both not knowing much about Linda, but NOW coming out and seeing the same thing on television and raving out and about it.

Don’t get me wrong NANNYK or O’IRISH, I am happy you saw the program and such, but I just don’t see this being all-coincident all of a sudden. Linda said…and I ALWAYS quote it, “OFTEN, THE INITIAL MANIFESTICATION OF YOUR QUEST IS A SERIES OF STRANGE “COINCIDENCES” WHICH ARE NOT COINCIDENTAL AT ALL….” Hence this talked about books and such, it doesn’t mean that you don’t see these “things” in everything.

NANNYK came to our site talking about the show she saw on HGTV, the one that talks about Linda “VANISHING” and leaving her house Intact…that is a lie, but we will get to that soon enough.

I just don’t see it as right, all of a sudden someone comes here asking about Linda, then stating that Linda sent a MANUSCRIPT, RESEARCH PAPERS and PHOTOS…. Ya know what…LINDA did not just give her things away to anyone so fast, This was something that she worked on for decades…something so big and dangerous….why would one go and just give these things to someone that they don’t know and are going to just trust to do research for them….Linda was said to go to the Library of Congress to do research for herself…why is she sending things to people when she was known to do this work herself.

Her library was vast….VAST!!!. In the list of books for sale by the book collector that bought her collection there were all kinds of books on Abe Lincoln…why would she have someone else doing research for her and such. It makes so sense and in my opinion is a lie.

Some may think that saying it’s a “LIE” is very harsh, but I have my reason and Proof and I will tell you at the end of this story.

NANNYK came here with the intent to learn more about a woman who told her much 14 years ago. Why would you get a manuscript and other dealings from one of the most famous authors of astrology and put it away for all this time…then you see her old house on television and you decided to go find it, and then find this website about her? I tell you this…there are people out there that Linda talked to and they remembered her from the get go, they Knew who she was…they didn’t just do research and put a manuscript, research papers and photos away for 14 years…

SHEAA OLEIN asked if it was copyright protected and NANNYK did not know. Then all of a sudden NANNYK finds CONSCIOUS EVOLUTION which surprisingly has a topic on this missing manuscript. SO I guess where all suppose to be star struck and just believe that all of this is coincidental…SORRY….it’s not. TIS NOT!
MARIA who is known as WRITEON in CONSCIOUS EVOLUTION wrote a bit on how she has been struggling with things and has come to the idea to write the biography of Linda….she said as of OCT 1st she came to this decision and is DEVOTING full time to this project.

I will tell you this…all she is doing is DEVOTING FULL TIME TO USING LINDA’S NAME TO MAKE A PROFIT. NUFF SAID…I SAID IT…and I BRING ABOUT THE OFFER OF ANYONE TO CHALLENGE ME THAT IT ISN’T SO.

I just find it so suspicious that NANNYK AND O’IRISH just show up registered here this month, and then NANNYK brings out of the blue a piece from CONSCIOUS EVOLUTION about MARIA stating that she is going to write a book on Linda’s life…and worse off…from people who knew Linda.

YOU CAN’T say that it doesn’t sound so suspicious, and the reason it’s suspicious is…no one has talked about it here. No one has mentioned the manuscript HAZELWOOD, but someone had to come in and register and bring it up so that the topic from CONSCIOUS EVOLUTION titled “ANOTHER FORTHCOMING BOOK THAT DIDN’T MAKE IT” could be seen here by all of us.

This was probably to stop or intimidate anyone from pursuing the same idea…someone who might have had the same information and was thinking of publishing works. I tell you this is all so wrong.

MARIA BARRON, I don’t know her, but I have never really had a good feel about her. The feeling is the same as I have about Crystal and even Greg. I am sorry I just haven’t felt anything wonderful. It started with the finding of the tapes in a drawer that was bought from Linda’s Estate. Inside the Drawer, it’s said was a tape of Linda reciting from the book Gooberz. Maria stated that she played one side of the tape and nothing was there, but turning it over, it revealed Linda reciting words from books.

On CONSCIOUS EVOLUTION, there is a page called “THE LOST LINDA GOODMAN TAPE” at the bottom of the page these words are pasted:

“This recording was discovered on an unmarked Cassette tape bearing no publishing or copyright information. It is shared on a purely non-commercial basis for educational purposes through the courtesy of Maria Barron, the tape’s current Owner.”

First NO ONE….NO ONE owns that tape. No one but Linda, No one but her FAMILY.
Two, Even though the unmarked tape bore no publishing or copyright information…it still is. It belonged to Linda and that’s copyrighted.

The tapes were samples that were made to prepare possibly for book on cassette. She didn’t want other people reading her work on tape. So she was practicing to do it herself. If anyone had tried to do some research and not just labeled them “UNMARKED CASSETTE TAPE BEARING NO PUBLISHING COPYRIGHT INFORMATION,” if someone had thought about these things instead of making sure that we all knew that the tape was passed on with courtesy and is NOW owned by another, if such blind notions were not grafted on the fact that these tapes were discovered and owned by another person…maybe someone would have figured out that there was more to it than that.

I find it amusing that this desk was bought and a tape was in a box, because there was suppose to be a tape of Sally reciting plays on a tape in the same desk. Perhaps there is more and people are just trying to hold onto things that belonged to Linda in hopes of having some kind of power of the “star struck” ones on both sites. Or maybe Linda erased it because she knew others might get a hold of Sally’s voice and go for profit.

Linda was human, just like a fellow Moderator said in a post…she was just human.

In the topic I wrote entitled “The Fax” I show that “this tape” was in fact copyrighted, since Linda speaks of making tapes to give to fans. Of course THE FAX was discovered after Maria found the tape, but it shows that TRUTH does speak eventually, even if no one knew that tape was copyrighted, there is no doubting it now.

I was talking to a friend tonight and we were discussing on how all these names came up.

First Maria states that as of OCT 1st she is devoting full time work to writing about Linda from people who don’t even want you to know who they are.

No one in LL knows of this…at least there is no post for it…THEN:

Someone comes and registers in DEC 2006 by the name of NANNYK, then Sheaa Olein says its posted on FFA (which I believe is just a TRUE coincidence…since Sheaa has posted over two thousand times), then O’IRISH shows up DEC 2006 talking the same thing and SCORPIO23 who registered in Mar 2004 pops up, though being a member since 2004 only registers as having one post….what is that about?

All sounds too fishy to me and seems like a set up to blind eyes to something new happening: ANOTHER PERSON TRYING TO MAKE MONEY OFF LINDA’S NAME AND NOT GIVING TO LINDA.

I remember when Randal said the statement about profit for writing a book on Linda, “ALL MY PORTION OF THE PROCEEDS (EVERY PENNY) WILL BE DONATED TO THE AMERICAN DIABETES ASSOCIATION”

I thought this was a great idea, but I thought…why can’t the money go toward Linda’s family who deserve it more than the ABA who didn’t know Linda and get money all the time…though it was a great thing for Randall to do. I was confused why her children and grand children shouldn’t profit first.

I think that this perception of Linda’s Children has gone well off base and maybe people have thought that things were WAAAAAY worse than they ever were.

They deserve it all, they are the true holders of Linda’s way, not Crystal or anyone else who bellows that they own something that belongs to Linda with out sharing it with everyone.

SHOULD MARIA WRITE A BOOK ABOUT LINDA…I SAY HE!! NO! But as someone said to me tonight…”people will always find the frailties of a person and profit from those instead of the good things they did in life.”

What does this really mean.

This year Maria answered a post from someone named CRAISY DAISY who just happened to ask about books that didn’t make it while Linda was alive…and then MARIA just happened to write that she is going to write a book on Linda…I just find that so odd, BUT I also remember this and its so funny that its at the top of the forum over there…

A YEAR AGO…OCT 24th 2005, Emily “LISTEN TO TREES” asked if anyone knew what had become of Linda’s children.

Well Maria was so good to answer for her.

I read this to a friend tonight and we broke it down completely…but I ask you again…do you want someone writing a piece on someone you love that writes things of this nature about them…someone that says “THIS IS WHAT I HAVE GATHERED FROM MANY, MANY PEOPLE WHO KNEW HER…”

PEOPLE ARE LIARS…PEOPLE ARE EXAGGERATORS, PEOPLE ARE JEALOUS…IN ORDER TO TELL A STORY YOU NEED A NAME, YOU NEED A PERSON, YOU NEED TRUE PROOF!

I am posting the post from CONSCIOUS EVOLUTION AND IN BOLD writing I will post an explanation. And it ain’t no explanation from many, many, many people…

This was MARIA’S response to EMILYS QUESTION:

OK, I guess I finally will take a deep breath, blow it out and dive on in.

This is what I have gathered from many, many people who knew her. Linda was extremely difficult to get along with. Every friend who was ever a really good, close friend with her has a story of "the time I decided I was never going to speak to Linda again, ever." A few relented after Linda bombarded them with calls and letters and "please, please, please." Others stuck to their guns and wrote her off.

She could be extraordinarily generous, but she could also be a holy terror. She yelled a lot. She yelled mean, snotty things a lot. She also did other really odd and goofy things that would freak people out and embarass them. She demanded a lot of her friends and relations, and she was not very good at all at noticing when just a kind word from her, just a small gesture, would have been hugely appreciated in return.
First off, Linda was very good at saying a kind word to many a people. Linda did expect and demand a lot from friend, BUT this was because MOST PEOPLE WHO MADE PROMISES NEVER DELIVERED WHAT THEY SAID THEY WOULD…anyone would get upset with someone you trusted and they would say they were going to do something and they didn’t…wouldn’t you?


Her kids grew up with Sam while Linda went off to do her own thing. There are nicer ways to put that, but that's the unvarnished truth.

There Is only one way to put this and they are nicer…you see you need to know what your talking about before you write it down…before you quote QUACKS in a town that was a ghost town before the casino came, a town with people who were so close minded, that when they met a woman who would invite them into her house for dinner and then show them a video on St. Francis…they left thinking she was a QUACK, but she was more advanced than any of them…they never knew what she was about...so instead they smiled at her and when she turned a corner, they called her crazy…and she knew…she knew and she still loved them all.

So many there say they knew her, but more talked behind her back than believed her…its so true….I know.

Maria said, “ the kids grew up with Sam while Linda went off to do her own thing...there are nicer ways to put that, but that’s the unvarnished truth”

My friend said tonight “there are two ways of telling a story…one is making the person seem like a monster and the other is telling the truth or the same story in a true sense.” When you read this story…you don’t see the Linda we know in her books…there are not two people….two personalities…there is only one!

Linda could not write in NY, she just couldn’t concentrate. She decided to go to Colorado to write…not to leave her family with her husband. When she got to the little quiet dead town of Cripple Creek, she saw the magic that it held. This led to her buying a place. Sam didn’t want to move to this little town of 300+, this man was a city boy, New Yorker. He knew that she needed to work...everyone knows that a writer can’t write if thier surroundings are not just. This is what happened.

Jill and Michael went to Cripple creek to stay with Linda. Jill didn’t like it so she went back to New York. Michael stayed with Linda for a while…even went to school there but it was difficult for them, Cripple Creek was not the easiest thing for a child, especially when you see people smiling at your mother but laughing behind her back…anyone would want to just take a bat to a person head.

So Linda did not leave her children with SAM…She did not Leave them in New york, it was a choice that the others made, they came with her, and they chose to go back. Linda loved her children to death!!! To death! Sally is the prime example…so why doesn’t anyone see that?

Sam loved his wife to death…so much that he let her go and write in an enviroment that SHE could gain strength and write her heart away. In Fact Linda never would have written those books with out Sam’s love…NOT AT ALL!!! She was a very strong woman and not many men can be with a woman with such high Standards…but he did, he knew what her love could do not only for her family, but for others also…for YOU AND ME!!!! YES…YOU AND ME!

That was the ultimate sacrifice and it was a good one. Nothing bad about that…nothing that is stated above as “the unvarnished truth”

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT HONEY…


Her last conversation with Sally was a very unpleasant one. Sally wanted Linda's help, and Linda not only wasn't moved to provide that help, she was unpleasant about it.

Of course Linda didn't want to believe that Sally died by suicide afterwards. But most people realistically find it easier to believe that Sally did indeed decide, as some young people having a tough time and feeling emotionally abandoned sometimes do, that she was never going to speak to or see her mother or anyone else again ... rather than that the CIA would pull a black-op on the daughter of an astrologer who was known for ideas out of left field.

Linda believed that Sally was still alive and I believe that Sally was still alive because her mother did! And that’s all that matters…not because of some theory, because SHE believed…she knew...and all this spider line stuff…well Linda discovered things after the “DEATH” or “DISAPEARANCE” that showed that this girl might be alive….even Linda’s children when confronted with things that Mother said…had to say…”WOW…WOW.”

Linda was a excellent researcher….she knew how to find info…she was utterly intelligent...as was Sam, c’mon…this woman did it all…and her children knew this and believed it.


The other kids accepted that Sally died.

How do you know the other kids believed their sister was dead…? You got to give a name of someone who told you this…otherwise its all hearsay….

When Linda lived in Cripple Creek, she would called New York and she would talk to Michael on the phone…he was a young boy at the time…and you know what she would do…she would read 20-30 pages of Peter Pan or Tolkien to her boy….and she would do this until he fell asleep…all the damn time!!!

So what is the “unvarnished” truth? You tell me…is it what I am telling you now…or what someone said “many, many, many of Linda’s friends” told her.

The question is this” Are these friends…FRIEND OR FOE?”

Linda would also hide from people. She would tell people straight to their faces, "Linda's not here; she's in New York," when she was, in fact, right there talking to them. She would pretend she was her own housekeeper instead. She would pull similar stunts even on close relatives. They would travel hundreds of miles or more to see her, and she would pretend she wasn't home. She would send a friend to the door to tell them she was in another state, or sometimes she would say things like, "OK, you can come in, but your friend / boyfriend / girlfriend has to stay outside." Even to her own kids. And they would say, "Fine," and leave with their friends.

Linda Goodman was a star, a huge celebrity. People magazine and others tried to make her look a certain way because of the need to sell a newspaper. Linda was the most wonderful woman, a mother to all of us.

Linda said, “astrology is like a weather forecast.” This meant when you watch the weather person…they say it might rain, but it just might not, it might fly by, its just a forecast, but you are in control, you just have to watch the sky.

When you are a celebrity and people are using your names in the wrong way…sometimes to make you seem like a quack, wouldn’t you protect yourself? Of course you would!! The world is a crazy place. Linda never played stunts like telling close relatives she wasn’t home…that’s so absurd…she would know they would know her…so why would one do that?

As far as sending friends to the door, her son would do this…but who are we to just walk up to a person’s door and ask to talk to them without calling? That would be rude.

The woman had much stress on her and you don’t know what dangerous people are marching to your door to talk to you about things they possibly might think is
against their GOD or religion…c’mon people...open up your eyes and see!!!! SEE!!!

Linda NEVER told her children to leave their loved ones outside the door, but they could come in. That’s the biggest lie and absurd thing I or any of you could hear.


I know that one of her kids, who tried to do well by Linda, eventually told Linda's friend (who would place the calls to this grown-up child for Linda) "I appreciate that you help my mom, but please don't call me again until she has died."

It disturbs me that MARIA says “I KNOW” when she doesn’t know anything, but only words from others that are saying things to make themselves feel big, but most of what they say are lies and outrageous exaggerations about a woman they really never understood.

I am telling you that no one called Linda’s son and no son said anything to those words. Since Linda has two sons and the person talked about above would be the oldest one…this never happened, that was never said. It’s a total lie that someone told MARIA.

I know that another of her kids made it clear on the day of Linda's memorial, out loud and with no attempt to be secretive about it, that in this grown-up child's opinion, their mom was a nut.

THIS WAS SAID, BUT look at the way MARIA writes it…and I am sure she writes it in the manner it was told to her...by some hick who had no notion of what it meant. Linda’s youngest son did say this, but not “with no attempt to be secretive about it” he was just saying it in a loving way.

I ask you this…have any of you EVER said, one of your sibling was nuts…or your dad for farting, or your best friend for smashing a beer can on his head….? When Michael said this, he mean it in that way about his mother, he meant it in the way one says about there loved ones in most loving and endearing way. WE HAVE ALL SAID SOMEONE WAS CRAZY and not meant it in the way MARIA’s CONTACT made it seem.

Michael loved his mother, in no way ever hated his mother or thought she was bunkers…he was just saying it in a way that his mother was VERY ECCENTRIC…out there, her ideas were pure, she was a fascinating writer and she cared about us all.

Of course, I'm not saying all her ideas were bunk. Not at all. Although, personally, I do think some of her ideas were half-baked and that if she'd spent longer time thinking some things through it would have been a good thing.

Half baked….Linda’s only goal was to help others, to enlighten others, there is nothing half baked about that. Linda’s books were to help others…to bring them together…LovE Signs...Sun sSigns…she wanted everyone to get along and love, love, love…did she not talk about love….HELLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

And obviously, as a writer addressing her readers, she was amazingly effective and pleasant. But in person, she could be a real pain.

To end this with saying “SHE COULD BE A REAL PAIN,” that makes me just want to scream and not buy any book Maria would right about my spiritual mother…the woman I think about as much as my mother and my grandma, the woman’s books who I see as I come in my house everyday…..

LINDA WAS THE MOST REAL PERSON THAT ANY OF US WILL EVER KNOW…EVER! you will never meet another person as enlightened as LINDA GOODMAN.

As someone told me tonight, ”If you can’t bring up something nice about a person, DON’T bring up nothing at all!!!” people write books all the time about celebrities and there is always some dirt to satisfy the publics taste buds or destruction of a persons reputation…IF MARIA really loved Linda the way she wants to write a book about her...WHY WOULD YOU EVEN PRINT SOMETHING LIKE THIS...WHY DIDN’T you just NOT TAKE A DEEP BREATH and BLOW OUT…WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU WERE DOING GOOD FOR LINDA for saying all these things that you don’t know are true…you’re taking a persons word for things that you don’t know are true, because you weren’t there, and you didn’t hear, see or touch Linda.

Love,
Maria

I see no love in your letter MARIA, just petty gossip about a woman who did nothing short of helping people all her life.

Linda was from the south and she was taught respect of another’s person life. This was the woman that wrote speeches for civil rights, but someone says she closed doors in people’s faces? She didn’t close doors in peoples faces….she would peep through the window and feel a persons vibe and know if she should talk to them or not. There is a story of a woman and her child coming to see Linda in the pouring rain and Linda talked to them and apologized for making them wait. THIS WAS A GREAT WOMAN.

I was told tonight that LINDA said, “THE CHART OF A SAINT IS UNREADABLE” I find it so funny and refreshing that so many try to wonder when she was born...BUT JUST LIKE THIS CASE…YOU CAN’T READ A SAINT’S CHART AND THIS WAS A SAINT!


P.S. I should probably also say that the same is probably also true of a fair number of creative, driven, famous people...

THIS last sentence isn’t going to save you for any of the things you said about her being so negative…

SO A YEAR AGO, YOU SAID THESE THINGS…AND NOW YOU TALK ABOUT WANTING TO WRITE A BOOK ABOUT HER, THAT PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN YOU THINGS AFTER KNOWING WHAT YOUR HEART IS DOING…I ask you Moderator of CONSCIOUS EVOLUTION…what people gave you this stuff and how long have you really had it and why haven’t you given it to her family?

Why haven’t you contacted her family…how can you write a biography on a woman when you haven’t talked to people who really knew this woman???

If you have had these things…these Manuscripts…why haven’t you given them to Her children…could it be because you Don’t want them to stop you from doing what you are going to do…?

Were you going to give them the profit that they deserve…where you going to give so that her grand kids can live off the truth that is theirs to hold and carry on…or were you just going to keep profits for yourself and shrug off the family because you were told they didn’t care about her at all.

I find it odd, that you have mention the two boys...one saying don’t contact him until his mom is dead, and the other saying she is NUTS, but you haven’t brought up anything….OR is it that those people are afraid of the scorn of a woman?

This is the thing…when Linda moved to CRIPPLE CREEK, it was small desolant, it was like a old western town were people could still if viable…wear six shooters if they could. When Linda came…she was way, way, way, way beyond what anyone up there knew of things Metaphysics…I am sure most of them didn’t even know about her book or who Saint Francis was. I can see them looking confused after dinner when she asked them to watch a video on this man who at one time was a WARMONGER turned Saint.

I am sure when they smiled at her and then stabbed her in the back with knives of laughter and she knew it, she didn’t care, because she was true to her s-elf.

Why is it no one has said that Linda TRULY believed in Metaphysics and Spirituality?

I DON’T WANT MARIA TO WRITE A BOOK FROM PEOPLE WHO CAN’T GET THEIR FACTS RIGHT, IN FACT I DOUBT ITS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH OUT A FIGHT…IN FACT I KNOW ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN WITH OUT A FIGHT.

After reading all there is about HAZELWOOD and absorbing it, and seeing the TOTAL set up to show us that someone is going to work diligently to make a profit off of Linda’s life…I did the only thing I knew I needed to do….

I CONTACTED ONE OF THE CHILDREN.

YES I said that….I REALLY DID…I said I CONTACTED ONE OF THE CHILDREN.

Something that no one here has did, I know this because when I called him and told him who I was, what was going on…he was shocked, because in 12 years I AM THE FIRST…THE FIRST TO CONTACT HIM.

I actually found that so sad…that so many people have talked about how they love Linda, and the things she did, but most would sit around and listen to others come on this site speaking of meeting, talking, listening to Linda and other rumors about her without any proof.

I have known where Linda’s Son Michael was and others for years now. Of course knowing this was really no concern to me. Being a fan of Linda’s you must respect people in all situations, Plus I would never had disclosed information on here or any other site because of the VAMPIRES in waiting…and they are out there. They really are. I have no doubt that here on our site, there are people waiting in lay to tell others of things that are going on. And not contacting anyone was my decision, until I hear about this whole HAZELWOOD thing and people also stating that after a long time of battle, they have decided to do something they feel is necessary…whatever…

Its such a shame that people are so evil and instead of finding a way to make a living, they instead live off other peoples LOVE, LIFE, EXPERIENCE and MAGIC…That is so evil in its self.

I tell you this…after I read to Michael that topic on Conscious EVOLUTION…he was not happy, in fact I am sure you can figure out that most of the info I got above in BOLD Type is from my conversations with Linda’s Loyal and loving son.

Now you don’t see me stating that I got this info from any mysterious friend of Linda Goodman’s…who are afraid to say who they are because they are liars that were jealous of the most mystical and beautiful woman.

MICHAEL WAS PRETTY UPSET…VERY OUTRAGED that a fan of his mothers would even print such things without true proof. Like he said, “if you have nothing good to say about a person…why say anything at all?”

Why MARIA?

I knew that the time to stop those from making a buck off of Linda is now…we have to stop this…THIS IS WHY YOU ARE ALL HERE…BELIEVE IT OR NOT. YOU ARE NOT HERE TO “WHOA AND AHHHH” at what others say…YOU ARE TRUE SOLDIERS and you never let others put holes in the fabric of those you love.

Is it MARIA’s fault that others have told her lies? Of course it is…if she really loved Linda she would have tried to find family members and ask them if these words were real? It was her responsibility to find out the truth before telling other fans these things and making them have an impresson of a woman that deserved more than respect than what others are giving her.

Like Michael said:

Are you perfect-are you not guilty of saying things?
How many of us have said things to friends and later said differently to them? Who hasn’t said these things?

Linda raised her children so good. When Michael was a child he wanted to start a paper, the paper was called “THE GOOD NEWS,” he wanted to make a paper that told the GOOD NEWS of the WORLD and not one that is always telling the bad news…just like momma!

This woman read to her son all the time…from far away…she loved her children and they argued like children do with their parents, but saying, “call me when my mom is gone..” that’s a no no…a no no! She loved them to death and they loved her as they still do.

Michael was not a big reader as a child, this was pressure on a kid when both of your parents are readers and Totally intelligent, he was probably intimidated, but when you have parents like SAM and Linda…who make you feel loved…well he had the best of both words…HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE HAD YOUR PARENTS CALL YOU FROM ANOTHER STATE AND READ TO YOU UNTIL YOU DROP THE PHONE ON THE FLOOR…HOW MANY???

Michael said that his father “was the wind beneath Her wings”

Linda believed in Metaphysics and SPIRITUALITY…why didn’t that topic from last year mention that…why didn’t those people state those things to MARIA BARRON?

Linda was complicated...in the sense that she was a genius around many blind people who didn’t really understand what the heck she was saying to them.

When I received things that belonged to Linda from the gent who bought her book collection, (many of those things that I have shared with many of you on here) all the people I contacted from things she left…NOT one person said she was any of the things that Maria’s contacts said…they all said she was the most interesting woman they have ever met…totally FASCINATING...of course these were people that lived outside Cripple Creek.

Once I told a co-worker that John Denver was one of the Planets greatest saviors. My co-worker said that once he had seen a magazine cartoon, John Denver was on top of a mountain with bottle cap glasses and a Eagle was sticking his talons into his eyes-the eagle depicted those in Colorado who were angry that John Denver’s music had brought more people to Denver than the residents wanted…and even then I thought about how idiotic and close minded people can be.

Michael Goodman was talking to me and he said that he sometimes liked to joke about this phrase…its called “THE GOODMAN CURSE”

This meant that anyone that messed with his family…they always got what came to them and of course this is called Karma.

What he stated is this: “YOU DON’T MESS WITH THE DEAD, BECAUSE THE DEAD CAN’T DEFEND THEMSELVES AND WHEN YOU DO, YOU END UP MESSING WITH GOD.”

So look at what happened to www.lindagoodman.net and look what happened to Greg…I truly believe in Karma…do you?

I tell you now…the fight has begun and any approach to write anything about these people’s mother will be dealt with in a court of law…Karma is coming back and all those that have done wrong will be dealt with. I promise you this. I put my Heart and LIFE on that statement…my hammer is going to help knock heads, because this is my calling and I LOVE IT.

I hope you all read this all the way through…and do know that for those that loved Linda Goodman with out greed being involved, Her son….who is a carbon copy of mom…he is thankful for this.

He also ask to leave him alone…let him be private and raise his love. Don’t worry you haven’t seen the last of the Goodman’s.

When we thought about this…really thought about it...we just wanted to thank NANNYK, O’IRISH, MARIA for bringing the fire to the forefront again….lol. With out you…well things might have been quiet and passed on without justice coming to the top.

Welcome to the fight of your life…it’s on!

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posted December 18, 2006 06:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
First, Tears Tears Tears....

I'm going to be late for work...

Thorshammer and MICHAEL...

and ALL...

"EXPECT A MIRACLE"


I LOve you ALL so much. . . . . .

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posted December 18, 2006 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Of for Goddess' sake. Why fight about any of this? I gave up being the Mod of this forum (and recommended you, Thorshammer, because of your love for Linda) because of cr@p like this.

You talk about Linda, Thors, like you knew her. But you didn't. You can only presume, and I say this with all due respect.

If anyone is lying about Linda or her intentions, it will come out, without a fight. If someone seeks to profit from her name, let him or her try. People profit from things all the time, and that's fine. Altruism is a lovely thing, but so are honest earnings. All those books on Linda's shelves, including ones about Lincoln, written by authors who had no first knowledge about the man, were researched, written and sold. Hopefully they made a profit.

It is not for us to judge. If there are suspicious actions here, those too will come out.

Having a "bad feeling" about someone, well. I've had "bad feelings" about some people here, some of whom you may have "good feelings" about. So what? It just means that these people are not meant to be your friends. Pat them on the head and ignore them, and don't accrue any nasty karma.

Let It Be.

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posted December 18, 2006 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thorshammer     Edit/Delete Message
Trillian,
sometimes suspicious actions are blindly ignored by many who in the end take action when it's too late.

whatever suspicions, I say they come out into play and if anyone wants to defend themselves they have the right to do so, such as I.

I believe this is love for linda. You are right people made earnings on those like Abe lincoln, Linda talked about him in books too, but no one took Lincolns manuscripts and used those for info to make earnings off of his work.

I am just saying if your going to do something on a person and you hold things that were there's things that THEY worked hard at, but did not finish, is it right to take those things and go forward with profit with others not in hand.

say Crystal, she got Carolyn and they put Relationship Signs together from Linda's Notes (supposedly) and made a profit from those things. Now some would think that it was a business deal, I still think its a jar or emptiness to not consult those that were close to her and deserved those things more.

It's not right. Anyone with true Morals can see that.

as far as knowing Linda or acting as if I do, I am only writing what her son Michael Aaron Goodman has told me mouth to ear, I don't need to presume when I have a source that is true to his word...you couldn't be presuming that Her son is lying?

If one is writing a book on linda from reliable sources and not things that are hearsay...then so be it, but not to have the true sources...thats not right.

And no writer with any common sense would really write a book or put there reputation on the line from words that have been passed along from thoses did not come from her Belly.

My friend I do not need to presume anything..talking to a man that loved his wife for three hours or more a night on the phone...the truth speaks louder than suspicion.

I dont really have a bad Suspicion, I know its bad, I can see and others can too, Her children can see this.

Just like before, its going over the wrong way, the wrong direction. The true path is so simple but some would rather not take it.

now when a man reads something written about his mother from a person who states that many many many people spoke these things of her...and he knows and confirms that these things are lies or put out of place and that his brother and sister will confirm this too...how is this not a bad feeling.

Though I may have written it like I knew her, I did state below that many of these things and the most of the ones in bold were the words and feelings of her sibling who doesn't understand how anyone can say they are going to write a piece on there mother, but just a year ago was saying things presented from others as negative and bad karma.

Did you know Linda Trillian, can you verify for me and others that these things said were true and that Michael Aaron Goodman is pulling my leg to make myself and all others here look really stupid?

I am just trying to present the facts and LOVE plays a part in being in a position where you respect a person. A animal respects, loves and protects their owner, even though we are not dogs or such, isn't it a basic human attribute (one that many in the world have forgotten they have) to serve a person in a more LOVING way?

you are right, there are others that stem off Bad feelings and such, and yes a pat on the head and a gesture of non attention is given, but those are usually things or minor action that don't have a consequence on ones life. When things arise again that can affect a persons life in a way that makes it a puzzle once more...things need to be taken in guard.

I am just saying...if you want to write a book about a woman that still has relatives and significant others that are still alive, people that know that person (unlike Lincoln who has been dead with so many others...no one can verify that which is not on paper) from the heart, from the beginning....WHY then, WHY don't you follow that road and find out the truth to things.

Its not difficult, it was so easy to do and people want to talk about those they love if its brought in a way that shows compassion and trust for the persons regard.

I'd give up the Moderator spot to make sure that no one again makes a mistake with regards to her life.

If a book is written about linda and there is the least bit of inkling that is inaccurate that could scare her reputation for decades...even if her children came out with a book afterwards that stated mistakes and misconceptions about her mother, THAT still might not wipe away the errors made by others.

I will pat some on the head, but not in this regard. This must be brought to the front and handled.

This is not Nasty Karma, this is Justice that's been long coming. The Nasty Karma came when the first site started to edit peoples words and ban people, then the split with two websites, the demise of one, the battles that occured because of heresay that dealt with crystal and gregs words, never there being any regard or words from her relatives. Nasty Karma was brought in along time ago...it needs to end now with people having no regard for her relatives say in these matters.

I mean cmon....you can't write a BIO about a person with out relatives being involved...especially when they are still walking the earth! ABE LINCOLN would have agree with that! LoL

I know it, her children know it and so do many of you.

ONLY THE TRUTH should be spoken, not say so, and like Michael Aaron Goodman said, in the end "does it really matter, My mother was just human, she wasn't a saint, she was only human"

I can't sit back and let it just breeze by when I know that Linda's ashes are sitting with Michael and I truly believe she would not agree with this if she could speak now.

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posted December 18, 2006 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
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I can't sit back and let it just breeze by when I know that Linda's ashes are sitting with Michael and I truly believe she would not agree with this if she could speak now.

I truly believe that wherever we go when we let these mortal bodies lie, we don't give a damn what the living have to say about us. And if we do, we're not in the right place yet. If you can't laugh at the absurdity of it all, it ain't heaven.

I've said my piece/peace, feel no need to defend it, and will say no more.


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posted December 18, 2006 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thorshammer     Edit/Delete Message
I hear you.

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posted December 18, 2006 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Trillian,

I find your responses, very peculiar. ...


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posted December 19, 2006 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for O'Irish     Edit/Delete Message
Whew! I'm exhausted from reading all these recent posts!
I'm totally clueless as to what Thor is talking about. I have NO connection of any kind to any of these other posters that he lumps me in with... insinuating he/she has suspicion that there is a connection between us??? Because we suddenly posted about the same timeframe?? And someone else... Scorpio-somebody or other posted in March but only posted once?
Forgive me, but I cannot decipher what you are speaking about... at least where "I" am concerned. I understand you're talking about someone writing a book about Linda Goodman, and that you believe many of the comments in the book are untrue, etc., but I don't know what or how you are making a connection of this scenario to me, O'Irish.
I simply caught a portion of "If Walls Could Talk" last week one evening on HGTV and when I heard who they were talking about, and the new owners (at the time) had purchased Linda Goodman's home in Cripple Creek, I was just fascinated. I have some of Linda's books (and also have ordered her "Gooberz" book as well, from Amazon, because of the lovely things I've seen posted on this forum about it...). I did a google search for "Linda Goodman" to find out more about her and her life, when she passed away and her family and all. I found this forum, posted about the HGTV program (not realizing that it had been on before, back in September (I think?). I posted and asked questions, and I got no answers, no responses to my questions. Could that be the reason Scorpio-someboy only posted one time in the past maybe?? Because they asked questions too, and no one ever answered them?
Isn't this what the forum is for? For people to learn more about Linda, to get the truth, the right answers?
People who loved Linda Goodman should be eager to respond to newbies who are truly and honestly, and in good faith, wanting to learn more about a wonderful astrologer and author.
I studied astrology for several years back in the 90's. My life took a different turn, and I didn't have the time to devote to the study for a long period of time, as I was did. But I've never lost my interest, and I feel that me seeing the HGTV "If Walls Could Talk" program about Linda's home in Cripple Creek CO, was happenstance... and it occurred for a reason... and that reason was for my interest to be piqued and for me to find more information about her and her life. I pursued this and found your forum... but I certainly never expected to be accused of any ulterior motives as you have done. Right now, I'm quite unsure of exactly what ulterior motives you are accusing me of.
I'm here to assure you all that anything you suspect where "I" am concerned IS pure coincidence. Again, I do not know any of these other posters you mention... NannyK, Maria, or Scorpio-somebody... nor have I ever even seen posts by them before, here or anywhere else.
I posted initially because I'd seen the HGTV program and I was excited. And I went on to ask questions, of which I got NO answers... and its apparent that you, Thor, have many of the answers you could have given to me, but you didn't respond with any, after I first posted them. And as far as the "famous astrologer who had owned the home, had simply vanished..." I assure you, that is exactly what was said that night on the program. It was not something "I" made up, or some rumor "I" was trying to start!!! I came here to ask questions and learn more, and to find out why she left her home like that, fully intact, furnished, clothing, jewelry, manuscripts, charts, books, addresses, etc., just as if she were still living there. You say now that was not the case at all, but you don't go on to explain just what the case WAS. I came here to learn, and I get accused of some conspiracy with some other posters, who I don't know from Adam!!
I'd appreciate it if you would please clarify exactly what it is that you were/are insinuating where I am concerned, please.

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posted December 19, 2006 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for O'Irish     Edit/Delete Message
And, P.S.
Going back to my very first post... regarding the HGTV "If Walls Could Talk" program about Linda's home on Carr in Cripple Creek... I will re-paste here below, the exact text off HGTV.com's website regarding THAT specific episode of "If Walls Could Talk"... you will note please, that is states "she vanished into thin air..." So THAT is where it came from... I didn't make it up. If that is incorrect, you might contact the proper people at HGTV for that program to dispute that statement. The following is a QUOTE direct off the website:
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If Walls Could Talk ...
Episode WCT-1601
AIR TIMES:
• December 12, 2006 6:00 PM ET/PT
Cracking Open the Past...
First, it may be remote but Cripple Creek, Colo., is like a mecca to followers of a famous astrologer who lived in the small mountain town until the day she disappeared into thin air. When Janice and Rick Wood moved into her 1898 brownstone, they were astonished at what they found inside.
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Thorshammer
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posted December 19, 2006 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thorshammer     Edit/Delete Message
goodness, why am I not surprised you are a Cancer...HAHAHA. I always get in trouble with them.

I am sorry if I made it seem that I was accusing you of something, I didn't mean to do that O'Irish, I was just trying to put things together.

It might have been happenstance that all this came into play, the show, you seeing it, but I dont think it all came into play.

I am happy you responded, thats what I wanted to happen.

I am also sorry I wasn't here to answer your questions, I have been very busy with other things.

Its so funny, I didn't have an answer to some of the things you asked anyway,it took a posting from Conscious Evolution to be pasted here for me to discover what was going on.

Of course that got me into High Gear to find out WHAT the heck was going on. That led me to go into my notes and find Michael Goodman, I'd never called him and I probably never would have called him, NEVER. There had been times that things would come up here that weren't as important, But I really wanted to know and I would pull out his number and just tremble over the phone to call. And I never did, I just couldn't. This time I didn't hesitate at all, I just went at it! I knew I was suppose to proceed, it was time.

I know you didn't say that she vanished, I saw the posting on HGTV for the show too. I just wanted to find out if there was a piece of the puzzle missing and maybe you were apart of it, meaning bringing this out more and having us discover that Maria was going to write a book about Linda.

the Program "if walls could talk" man...I don't know what they were doing or saying. Its television, they want to get viewers and a good story is just a good story to them, its obvious they didn't care about Linda,she was a fascinating way to get ratings.

I Didnt see the program, but I know that one of the houses was sold under foreclosure, this would explain why her book collection was sold at a auction and everyone was buying things. Linda did have financial problems, thats so true. Could it be that the home was left intact because she was in the hospital and she died? She didn't vanish, so i don't know why they said that, that is just BULL, but thats Hollyweird!

that night I wrote the whole thing, i was tired, I had just got off the phone with Michael, I was trying to remember everthing he told me, I was told to make sure I told everyone about his love for his mother and the reason for the "nut" comment, just all of it in general and how it was explained in CE with other meanings. I was so tired and even though I should have stopped and come back to it later, I just kept typing. I left out things and I am sorry it seemed I was accusing you of things. What I was trying to do was get others here to think about it all and perhaps give me some help in finding out what is going on.

Michael said he went to see his mother, she had lost her leg up to her knee, it started with a infection to her toe and finished off with the amputation.

he said when he saw her, he knew that she had kinda lost that battle, BUT she was still her SELF, just full of energy and life. about two weeks later she was gone, and it just devastated him, because it was his mother, he knew her words, what she believed and of course her attitude when he last saw her.

when Linda was in the hospital, she told a nurse, "I need to call Michael, he needs my help." And then she passed on. A mother thinking about her child to the last breath. I think that impacted him deeply, and I suppose thats why her ashes sit with him.

O'Irish, it just happened that all these people just showed up at the same time, and perhaps that was because of the episode, but It could have also been a great opportunity for others to bring out their plans.

When Linda passed, the oldest son came to the home and took what he felt was the most personal stuff. Michael told me he didn't even know that Linda's books had been sold...her collection that she had from the beginning. When he asked his brotha, what he got from the house, he told him he took what he thought was important and he couldn't bring all those things with him, he boxed up all that he could, and that was that.

That would explain why it was sold "AS IS" it was probably a foreclosure and of course with foreclosures, what you see is what you get."

for HGTV to just print she vanished and not do research and find out what happened is just nonsense and a pure rating tactic to grab peoples attentions. They could have follwed the trail to the hospital and found out anything.

Like Many in the world, they didn't really care about her, it was her walls that mattered and getting us all to watch the program and build more falsehood than fact. I just think about all the people that saw that show and didn't find LL, like you did, now they are all thinking or remarking when her name comes up, "oh yeah...I know that lady, she vanished without a trace."

Sorry to upset you, was waiting for your response.

Oh yeah, I am a boy.

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posted December 19, 2006 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thorshammer     Edit/Delete Message
Oh Lotus your eyes are always wide open and so are your ears, but your HEART more than anything.

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lotusheartone
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posted December 19, 2006 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Oh Thorshammer, I am crying like a blubbering idiot right now...

I LOve you ALL so MUCH!

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posted December 20, 2006 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
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ONLY THE TRUTH should be spoken, not say so

And yet, Thorshammer, your accusations, your disparaging vilification of new LL knowflakes, posted in so many forums for all to see, have been...untrue.

Change your perspective, and you change the world.

Perhaps this could have been handled more gently.

Perhaps the lessons learned are our own.

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posted December 20, 2006 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thorshammer     Edit/Delete Message
Trillian it is known that sometimes New Knowflakes are actually old ones and other idiots playing idiot roles to fill some form of acceptance. I did what I thought was needed to find the truth. I apoligized to her if she was offended, she has obvious read it and accepted that, if not then she will say it.

I find it so odd your attitude. It might have been handled more gently, but I am not really known for a gentle side when it comes to things that mean much to me.

Gently might have kept many asleep...Now they many are awake and we'll see what comes of all of this.

with all your love toward me and I know thats what it is, WHY haven't you responded to the things that Michael said, its as if those things said by her son don't matter?

You said that you recommended me for the moderator position, I never knew that, but I thank you because you picked the right person.

and anytime I see something that seems odd to me, I won't turn my head or not ask questions, and theories, it will never change, sorry if that upsets you or anyone, but thats the only lesson learned her, I won't give up and quit.

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