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trillian
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posted December 20, 2006 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not upset in the least. I am mostly amused, and somewhat bemused by your actions.

Ask questions. Be aware. But degrade and vilifiy without substantiation? That's what they do at the National Enquirer.

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but not to have the true sources...thats not right

You had no sources. Only conjecture.

I do not care if you think my attitude is odd. And with that said...

I find it somewhat incredulous for you to think my attitude is odd. You think it not odd to accuse without proof? Would not a noble knight know if his enemy is true before attack? This thread is not a demonstration of light and love. You are not Linda's keeper, though your devotion to her spirit is duly noted.

I feel no need to respond to anything you say that Michael said. It's interesting, and nothing more. Thorshammer, with all due respect, what proof have I that you actually spoke to Michael? I do not know you, only what I see here on this site. And even if you did speak to him, what we have here is not a transcript of the conversation, which means it becomes your interpretation of the conversation. I was a student of Linda's, not her son. I find that children generally know their parents the least well of anyone.

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Everything feels possible. Perhaps more is possible than we think. -P.H.

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lotusheartone
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posted December 20, 2006 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Well, the Truth is...
Plain and Simple..

All these
"supposed friends if Linda,
not one of them every reached
out to the childre, not one
looked out for their welfare..

Crystal Bush, I have nothing good to day about you, so like Thumper's MOm said.."Don't say anything at all"

yeh, real friends spreading the LOve and Light, yes I am being sarcastic...

And all the Truths shall be revealed..
for ALL, for it is the Time that Linda spoke up, and we are running out of Time to Save
Our MOther Earth...

Mastership!
Pax et Bonum

LOve LOve LOve. ...

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Thorshammer
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posted December 20, 2006 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thorshammer     Edit/Delete Message
I love you Trillian, you make me go go go! I read this all to michael..in fact he is on the phone right now and he said this..no transcript needed:

"My mother and I were more than son and mother, we were friends. If you dont think its me Trillian, I challenge you to find me. Thorshammer found me, there are things on this site that tell where I am, if you really care about my mother and you are a student of hers, find me, I challenge you.

If you think that my mother wouldn't say to you, 'how dare you," for saying those things above, if you think that my mother wouldnt battle you for saying that her son doesnt know me...How dare you....

I know my mother like no other, no one knows their mother better than children, I know when my mother picked her nose and when she left the toothe paste top off.

Trillian, I am deeply hurt that you would say that a child, that I didnt know my mother, I knew her well, and i can only think, with no disrespect to you, that maybe you didn't know your mom, well okay, but i dont know what a child of all people didnt know their parent, if they lived with that parent day in and day out, who wouldnt know that parent more? who comforts you with your sad, happy, is your first teacher. why would that person not be honest with that child, yes keep things from them that might be bad, but to not be honest in general with a child that yearns for knowledge, thats not normal. the first people a child wants to know about are their mother and childen. I am curious where you come to that thought of thinking. who would know that person better if the child.

all i am trying to say is, "yes let sleeping dogs lie, don't try to use a persons name for profit with things that you don't know are correct. its unconscious,not moral and not a spiritual path to take.


a child is innocent and knows their parents to the extreme, a adult doesn't know their children, children will hide things from the parents out of fear, but adults aren't afraid of children and will speak and act right in front of the child. I would hide behind walls and tables and listen to my mother on the phone with business calls and I would get in trouble for it, but I knew my mother.

It all comes down to When are you suppose to say something...when.

Trillian if you were dead and someone was saying things about you and it was hurting your children wouldn't you want to do something.

If my mother was alive and someone did this to you..she would defend you to the end. She would defend you trillian.

Like in the bible it says, there is a time to do nothing and a time to fight, and this is kelly's time. remember Jesus said turn the other cheek, but he did come with a stick and say, "LEAVE MY FATHERS HOUSE"

what's wrong with finding out if the knowledge is correct, finding out from us if its all true.

I dont want you to think there is a cheap shot being made towards you or i am trying to belittle you, i just trying to understand what you are saying about a child not knowing their mother.

The only person to use the Hoodsa (yiddish word) to find the obvious need to find the truth. Like in star trek to find new worlds, new civilations and things is the person who wants the TRUTH.

THE truth is that my mother was a good person and thats what should be said about her, not that other stuff.

Trillian, "I am not my mother, I am not your teacher as you said, and I am not trying to have any students, I am just trying to put out the truth."

NOW...
with all due respect Trillian, I don't lie, I do talk to Michael A goodman (hint for a search) almost every day since the posting about the Hazelwood. I dont need to make that up, I am not about power and what one has and another doesn't.

If you really care (and I am not really sure you do), you can find him. Hes waiting for you. And he wants to talk to you, of course I am sure maria more, In all due respect how do i know your not Maria? I don't care really, I just want the truth to be written, I just want those that deserve there worth to be given it, and I believe those are her grandchildren, Thats just my heart.

Michael was telling me a story, but he couldn't remember how it really went, I found it on google and it dealt with this, it was by German Anti-Fascist,Martin Niemoller:

"First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out.

Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists, but I was neither, so I did not speak out.

Then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out.

And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me."


I Can't let it go...


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lotusheartone
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posted December 20, 2006 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
pick her nose

I'm laughing and crying...

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Thorshammer
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posted December 20, 2006 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thorshammer     Edit/Delete Message
AS Michael said, "If you're making this up...all this, and I don't exist...you would be a stark Lunatic and you could get in trouble with the law"

Well as DALI said,
"the only difference between a madman and myself is...I AM NOT MAD"

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posted December 20, 2006 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thorshammer     Edit/Delete Message
AS Michael said, "If you're making this up...all this, and I don't exist...you would be a stark Lunatic and you could get in trouble with the law"

Well as DALI said,
"the only difference between a madman and myself is...I AM NOT MAD"

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Thorshammer
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posted December 20, 2006 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thorshammer     Edit/Delete Message
Trillian, he says He does understand what you are saying, but as her son, finding all this out...he fills its wrong, but he does fill you totally about the energy being spent.

BUT one thing he does say:

CRYSTAL WAS NOT THE ONE...HE WAS.

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trillian
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posted December 20, 2006 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Thorshammer, you continue to miss my points, honing in on things that really don't matter. You can simply scroll back and reread what I've written.

I am entitled to my opinions, gained from many observations in regards to mothers, fathers, daughters and sons. Following that, I have no issues with you, your conversations with the alleged Michael, or with Michael himself.

Anyone can say "trust me" or "believe me." It doesn't make the bearer of the statement honest. It doesn't prove you were on the phone at all, let alone with Linda's son, but frankly, it's not important.

Oh boy. Much ado about nothing.
I would disagree on several points that this Michael makes, but he too is entitled to his opinions. What he thinks of me isn't very important, and I have no need to rise to this "challenge," which seems tiresome and a little childish to me. Like Linda, I am a triple Aries, and am very direct. Further, I haven't the time or the inclination to find him, in order to satisfy you. If he wants to find me, he may do so, but I accept no statements made from him through you, because there simply is no verification that they came from Linda's son.

Good grief, would finding him prove that I care about his mother? And why do I have to prove that to him at all?! And to say "How dare I?" This alleged Michael doesn't know me at all.

His "How Dare I" is in reference to things I never said, only your interpretations, Thorshammer. If one truly read what I wrote, one would understand that I spoke in defense of the truth, which you chose to ignore by beginning this thread and disparaging people. So, it's ok to accuse and disparage others with little regard to the truth, but not Linda? I have to laugh at the absurdity of all this.

This is a website. I do not know you, and have no reason to believe or disbelieve you. But I wish you well, and hope you let go of all this. I'm certainly going to.

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trillian
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posted December 20, 2006 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Do you really think I am this Maria More? Of course there are few ways for you to know, but you could probably find out if you wanted to. There are those here who know me...


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lotusheartone
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posted December 20, 2006 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
let go of it???

We actually have a knowflake
THORSHAMMER...
who is talking to one of Linda's
children

let go of it???

A man who has so much passion..
for Linda's work, I believe him
I believe him I believe him...

and this is the most wonderful thing..
in a long time, here in LindaLand
Her Son....

Thor, Soar

We Can Fly!

Let go of it???

never never never

Land IS

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angel_of_hope
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posted December 20, 2006 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel_of_hope     Edit/Delete Message
Trillian,

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Further, I haven't the time or the inclination to find him, in order to satisfy you

My interpretation of what Michael said, was to have you hunt him down and find him for you yourself to know that this is the real Michael A. Goodman Thor is conversing with. It has nothing to do with satisfing Thor.

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Good grief, would finding him prove that I care about his mother?

No, finding him would prove to yourself that He is Linda's son.

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His "How Dare I" is in reference to things I never said, only your interpretations, Thorshammer

Thor did say he read this thread and your posts to him, and that the post dated December 20, 2006 @ 5:15pm was comments from Michael himself. So you see the above would be the way Michael himself interpreted it and according to your post above, you did insinuate that Michael didnt know his mother very well.


I think more than anything Thor was curious to know why this all came up all of the sudden. I think yes, he may have pointed fingers, but also when those people returned to say thats not so - did you see the apology from Thor for his accusations? I did. He corrected his wrongs ... which is what he is trying to accomplish with Hazelwood and Maria's perceptions of Linda - that its not true in its entirety. By contacting Michael he's now got and given us proof that all that Maria makes it out to be, in reality, is not true - she is wrong, on some levels.

On top of all of that, Thors raised many questions in the hearts of the ones who care about this matter. (that is in no way, insinuating you yourself dont care)

idk, maybe i've been outta the loop to long to know anything.

~ang


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posted December 20, 2006 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Merry Christmas

trillian, it looks like a misplaced comma to me.
" And he wants to talk to you, of course I am sure maria more, In all due respect how do i know your not Maria?"

Thor, do you mean Maria Barron? I can promise Trillian is not Maria

It is interesting how this is opening up. Linda did love controversy,yes?

love,juni

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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

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lotusheartone
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posted December 20, 2006 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Digging for Gold,
A heart of
hehe

Let's all Lighten and Loven UP

we are supposed to be a big happy family,
Tree. ...

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Thorshammer
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posted December 20, 2006 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thorshammer     Edit/Delete Message
LOL. no I didnt think it was Maria, but its someone. thats why I dont like not knowing who is who...why can't it be like yahoo...pictures inserted.

well if I am talking to a imposter, if the guy I called just happened to say, "Yes i am Linda's son," then i am in trouble, because I told him I am giving him Proceeds from my numerology book, because if it wasn't for his mom, I wouldn't have ever written it.

what are we going to do....boy oh boy oh boy.

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posted December 20, 2006 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for O'Irish     Edit/Delete Message
My gosh... this has certainly gone waaaaay beyond what I originally began this thread with, an HGTV "If Walls Could Talk" program about Linda's old home!!! I came here because I was enthused about learning more about Linda, her life, etc., and I assume this would be a place where there were people who had a lot of knowledge... this IS a forum titled, "Linda's Life"... is it not? So far I haven't learned anything, and quite honestly I'm more confused now than before. What I HAVE heard is a lot of accusations (I'm still not quite sure about THOSE)... and arguing. This thread has gone way off topic, and perhaps it's time to start a new thread??
I've been very busy the past few days with preparations for the holidays, but wanted to get back for a few minutes to tell you all that I did receive my "Gooberz" book yesterday in the mail from Amazon... and I am absolutely shocked at it's size! I had no idea the book was this huge. I'm very happy to have it now, and as soon as the hustle and bustle of the holiday season subsides, I look forward to sitting down and getting into it.
Again, I'm very interested in learning more about Linda, her life, her death, her career... if there IS anyone here who really knows, and who is interested in filling me in... I would greatly appreciate it. I wish there were her biography or at least a true autobiography, to read. I hope the arguing, accusing, and first and foremost the paranoia and suspiciousness, will wain. This would be enough to scare a lot of newbie posters away!! Sometimes it may be better, and more beneficial, to just wait, watch, & listen for awhile before jumping to conclusions??

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posted December 20, 2006 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
yup, especially, if you are new!

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trillian
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posted December 21, 2006 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
All of this has become tedious and exhausting. And...perhaps I am wrong, but the original "How Dare Yous" from Thor's thread, attributed to Michael, seem to be edited somewhat.

Angel of Hope, some of your interpretations may be correct. I have to add, I did not directly accuse Michael of anything. I made a general statement that may have implied, but it did not insinuate. There are subtle, but important, distinctions. And I still stand by that general statement; please don't forget the word general. [yes, yes, some children know their parents quite well, and many don't; do I really have to illustrate this? Do I have to give examples of adult children who are shocked to find out their parents secrets?) Of course none of us can know the depth of relationship between Linda and her children. Perhaps only Linda could tell us if she took secrets to the grave; or perhaps she was an open book with her children.


Thor may or may not be talking to Linda's son. I would respectfully suggest that if this discussion is important to him, that if he truly thinks there is something here to defend in the name of his beloved Mother, that he come here and read it for himself, and reply himself, rather than through another party. That particular scenario still offers no proof, though he certainly could contact Randall, who has had some dealings with him before.

I won't repsond to the alleged accusations and comments from "Michael."

I'm tired of this subject. I wish you all well.

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posted December 21, 2006 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
By the way...

quote:
It is interesting how this is opening up. Linda did love controversy,yes?

juni, your quiet wisdom is always appreciated. You have a lovely soul.

Happy holidays everyone...and thanks for the pot to stir. It's been a blast. An Aries without a pot to stir is like, well, a Pisces without water.

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posted December 21, 2006 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
trillian wrote
though he certainly could contact Randall,
who has had some dealings with him before.


Randall,
Is this True?

I'm sure we are all wondering,
in LindaLand

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trillian
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posted December 21, 2006 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
I thought it was something I read in my early days perusing LL. Randall will correct me if I'm wrong....

Slow day at work...which is actually a relief.

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posted December 22, 2006 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Someone in his family (I'm pretty sure it was his wife) e-mailed me to tell me a secret, but I've had no contact with Michael personally.

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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posted December 22, 2006 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thorshammer     Edit/Delete Message
Michael said that a while ago he had read randalls post about a little bird singing in his ear, He said this pertained to the book randall wanted to write, but he wasn't sure.

I don't remember, I told him i would look to see if thats the one.

I don't know if it was Michael's Wife that talked to Randall, he has no idea who it was (michael that is) it could have been her perhaps she was going to tell Michael, but we won't know because he's divorced now.

Trillian I wish he would get on here too!!! lol. But Michael doesn't have a computer, mostly...he is not computer saavy, but he said that hes going to possible work with some friends to get on. He did say that he would call his sister who has internet and have her come and read all this.

Like I mentioned in the Astrology forum, I am going to see him next year...and Randall is welcome to come to prove that it is him...Or maybe you would want to come Trilian, I would love to meet you in person.

Opportunity is hear and finally we get to iron out many things.

Michael was surprised that no one was even surprised that I was talking to him...I told him topics like "Astrology and penis size??!! prrrrrr!!" that posted 131 hits as of today were more important than the finding of his mothers son...and he just sighed.

I ask you what is going on here people!
Really...what is going on?

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posted December 23, 2006 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
If Linda's son chooses to speak to someone from Lindaland, perhaps no one is surpised because...why should anyone be surprised at the exceptional or extraordinary? Many of us found Linda's works at a young age, and felt a certain peace, knowing that we were not alone in the Universe--there were others traveling the paths we, too, were seeking. And those are paths of wonder. So...why be surprised if there is wonder among us?

Additionally, we know very little of Linda's children. Do they, too, walk the paths of wonder? Do they seek to see the Universe as a place of magic and unlimited possibilities? Or do they travel a path of the more mundane? There is nothing wrong with that path, not in the least. I will happily wave to all my brothers and sisters who walk that path, then skip along on my own. Meaning that we gravitate to those who share similar outlooks.

People have often speculated why Linda's children have not visited this website. So if this is Michael, and his sister chooses to stop by here, we will wait and see what they have to say or share with us. We are students of their mother, and all of us here love her very much, albeit in different ways and with different interpretations of her works. And that's fine; once you release a thought or work, it's open to interpretation.
Once you accept and embrace the public eye, you must also accept and embrace that there will be Yin and Yang, dark and light, positive and negative. And so, all is right with the world.


We are not sycophants, holding on to the pants legs of the relatives of the famous.
We are the same beautiful beings of light that Linda was/is. We might learn something from her children. We might not. But the possibilities linger...

Merry Christmas, Thorshammer. Perhaps I will post a photo, and you will know I am not Satan. Though I tend to be a little private about those things.

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posted December 23, 2006 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
trillian wrote
Perhaps I will post a photo, and you will know I am not Satan.

just so you know, I don't think you can determine that from a photo, but you would
be able to in person....I find it an odd thing to say.

so why.. Trillian and Randall..have you not accepted Thor's offer to meet Michael???
I'd accept an offer like that in a heartbeat..
and I believe we have something to learn from everyOne..for we are all in this together...
all eqaully important...

Funny how you bring up Satan, it's Christmas, and Satan lexi to Santa
SANTA
31541 = 14 AND 5
interesting!

Warmest Holiday wishes to ALL. ...

and
May the Truth Set US Free... .

Clean Slate, Balance

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posted December 23, 2006 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Nope, it wasn't about the book. The person asked me to keep it a secret, so I can't say anything. I can say this--it was very good news. What good news happened a few years ago, Michael? I'm sure Michael knows now what it is about.

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