posted December 14, 2004 12:33 PM              

Obviously there is a multitude of reasons why any one human individual would decide to procreate.

Or maybe, it's more of a mortal desire, than an Immortal one.

I must add: Can you imagine a world without children? They are a total joy to have around (when they're not naughty anyway).
There are Masters who could have conquered death to become complete Immortals, but for reasons only they know of, they decided to leave their bodies behind and be reborn. In the same instance, we cannot possibly know for ourselves why an Immortal would choose to procreate. I wonder if a child born to an Immortal would automatically be an Immortal also, being that the genetic structure of the Immortal would change to more Divine matter and energy.
I really don't know. It's fun to speculate, but I'm more interested in actually getting there, than thinking over the smaller details.

posted December 16, 2004 08:38 AM              

What people choose to do, is entirely up to them. I have no desire to tell people what to do with their own lives, I'm too preoccupied with my own at present.

Edit: Even though I find your post somewhat confusing, I'm going to try to comment.
"would first try to expand their minds, before they try to legnthen their lives."

In my mind, the lengthening of life into Immortality comes with the expansion of consciousness. Both are harmonious. To me, the more the mind is expanded the more wonders are manifest and made clear. I personally am not aiming for Immortality for the sake of just living on earth in a youthful body. My aim is cosmic freedom, which Immortality is one of many things that results from such a freedom.

"You would presumably think that everyone should carry on working for money as usual, leading to individuals with incredible riches and power over others?"

I don't recall mentioning either the working life or money. But again this is an individual decision. If someone is aiming for riches and power, then let them make their own decisions. Ones decisions make no lasting impact on anyone but oneself.

posted December 16, 2004 12:58 PM              

I don't know if a would-be Immortal would want everything to go on as usual, at least not in the realm of maya.
From a personal perspective, I would like to see changes in how people communicate with and about each other. In meditations, I experience an intense peace and light that nothing else can give me, and then when I return, I go to work and sit amongst the gossips, sometimes joining in. I would like to see people lifting up a step to a lighter way of thinking and not getting wrapped up in small details of ego-bashing. Appearing wherever one looks.
Though the actions of others does not affect me, when I partake of their energy it does. This I want to change.
I see control of Self being the most important part, and then control of the outer-life will follow. I place faith in self-empowerment. I have physical ambitions, I would like to be financially stronger, but riches of the cosmic, is my highest goal.
In the realm of spiritual evolution, everything has a purpose. Even the seemingly day-to-day mundane has a reason for being. It seems, we are often where we need to be.
I was thinking on your initial question about having children, I think there is something beautiful about creation, that it is naturally inherant inside us. Perhaps because we are the created, our desire is also to create.

posted December 16, 2004 03:24 PM            

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Animals,including people, have children in order to gain a type of immortality.

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