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posted June 09, 2005 10:53 PM            

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Today, I didn't add dairy milk in tea. But later on I remember that I ate yoghurt. It is too tough to cut out milk as I love chocolates. May be one day!!
I got one more question, I don't know whether to ask under this heading or not.
Is mastur..... also a form of unnatural sex and it should also be prohibited.

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posted June 10, 2005 10:14 AM            

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No. Linda meant extremes like with animals. But she did note that pornography short-circuits the Soul (not literally, but that it will prevent you from attracting your other half).

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posted June 10, 2005 09:01 PM            

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Yep, what Randall said!

There has been *some* confusion about the 'unnatural' sexual acts Linda talks about, not in detail, but even though she was never clear on it, I don't think she was trying to say sex can be only done one way, and that's it.
But I'm sure there's a point where a line should be drawn. I think we should keep it within our own species...and maybe not in a large groups either.
And yeah, porn is like a magnet, that if you go near it, it can pull you in away from your path...I've seen someone's relationship ruined because of porn.
So many people would disagree, but it rings true with me.

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posted June 10, 2005 11:10 PM            

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I got it what you are saying here.
I never like to see Porn as I am also against it.

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posted June 11, 2005 12:30 PM            

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posted June 23, 2005 02:15 PM              

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Hey WWS, you know how you said that you started breaking out? Well, it seems that I am now too, omg lol!

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posted June 25, 2005 11:02 AM            

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posted April 08, 2011 03:19 AM            

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Oh dear, got caught up in cautioning against porn and forgot to say, that Self Cultivation is perfectly OK!
You can deepen your tantra that way. Svirgo, hope you have been enjoying yourself all this time! Lol

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posted April 08, 2011 11:41 AM            

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Originally posted by SunChild:
Yep, what Randall said!

There has been *some* confusion about the 'unnatural' sexual acts Linda talks about, not in detail, but even though she was never clear on it, I don't think she was trying to say sex can be only done one way, and that's it.
But I'm sure there's a point where a line should be drawn. I think we should keep it within our own species...and maybe not in a large groups either.
And yeah, porn is like a magnet, that if you go near it, it can pull you in away from your path...I've seen someone's relationship ruined because of porn.
So many people would disagree, but it rings true with me.

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The porn thing cannot possibly be a hard and fast rule. As many relationships may be saved as ruined by porn, since the man gets the chance to experience other women, but without "cheating" on his spouse.

If you sanction masturbation then that is usually done with porn. You are displaying the selfishness typical of people who are in relationships, who think that single people should not have any taste of the pleasure they are lucky to get by having a willing partner constantly at hand.

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posted April 09, 2011 12:46 AM            

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I wrote that in 2005 lmao!
how sweet of me.

Chill bill.

I like my tantric educational "porn", totally cool if hubby wants to watch. Excellent for single people. Check out Jaiya. New world sex educator.
Still think sleazy lusty porn is pretty damaging, however.... Bleh...

At least if you want to watch, watch them doing it right, respecting the divine feminine and divine masculine.

There are better ways.

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posted April 12, 2011 06:46 AM            

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You just cannot turn every sexual encounter into a sacrament. It is about what excites you in the moment. Sometimes "sleazy, lusty" is exactly what fits the bill.

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posted April 12, 2011 10:31 PM            

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whatever fits the bill

if the shoe fits

whatever floats your boat

if it's your cup of tea

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if it feels good do it!

BUT it can get better

I'm just talking from experience, about the best sex I've had in my whole life and since it has taken a turn for the best, really doing it RIGHT, because a LOT of men don't really know how to massage a female properly, if you know what I mean, when they finally know how, they will create the most ecstatic woman on the planet who ejaculates and everything.
Same with a man, So many women don't know how to massage a man, but when they do it right they know how to induce a feminine orgasm or a masculine one.

Understanding the energies , channeling them, makes for the most Joyful and long lasting satisfying sexuality, it can be even for a gay couple, those energies are still present in each of them.

Sleaze and lust can be playful, it wouldn't be unconscious, it can be fun yes, I can see that, but totally not if it's real sleaze, or real lust, it feels murky, icky, sticky, stinky.

the reason Tantra exists is because they are on to something, we were doing Tantric things before we discovered "Tantra" as an art. We were already playing with the sacred energy. Dancing with it. way more fun but that is just my opinion.

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posted April 14, 2011 07:14 AM            

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Probably a @respectable@ woman can't understand the thrill a man gets from casual sleazy sex, which is why so many married men visit prostitutes.Tantra sounds a bit like sex by numbers, but I am more familiar with the Tao, from which I believe it was derived. The Tao masters used to spend nights in brothels on account of the high levels of Chi or life force believed to be found there.

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posted April 15, 2011 06:02 AM            

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Do we have any porn actresses or prostitutes in Lindaland? Step forward, working girls, let's hear your point of view.

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posted April 17, 2011 06:13 PM            

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LOL yes I understand IT

Men I love have history interesting history, my husband and ex's and I know all the gory details! While they were single visiting a massage with a happy ending or a pro is normal fun to them, and why not? That is their choice.

In the case of someone I know very well, going to prostitutes for 3 years was VERY HEALING.

His ex girlfriend left him scarred and under confident with SEX, made him feel like he couldn't sustain himself, not good at it, his sexual centers were messed up, (she was the one messed up), he found himself when he started going to PROS.
Once he felt normal he stopped and wanted a serious girlfriend.

See it's the intention.... Consciously, or unconsciously? He is certainly awake.

Sexual energy is powerful... I've seen BOTH sides as have most of us.

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posted April 18, 2011 06:22 AM            

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It is good that you feel you understand and perhaps you do. I question the idea that he became "normal", therefore no longer requiring prostitutes. No matter how much a man conforms to the idea that he is in a "normal" relationship, he will still be interested in 1: masturbation, 2; UNCOMMITTED sex.

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posted April 18, 2011 11:33 AM            

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Originally posted by MAKLHOUF:
No matter how much a man conforms to the idea that he is in a "normal" relationship, he will still be interested in 1: masturbation, 2; UNCOMMITTED sex.

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the first part yes... the second part - does not apply across the board...in fact, there are a number of men who cannot/will not perform unless they are in some form of relationship... perhaps therein lies the difference between men and women - the definition of "relationship"

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posted April 18, 2011 12:52 PM            

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That's me.

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posted April 18, 2011 06:08 PM            

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It is good that you feel you understand and perhaps you do. I question the idea that he became "normal", therefore no longer requiring prostitutes. No matter how much a man conforms to the idea that he is in a "normal" relationship, he will still be interested in 1: masturbation, 2; UNCOMMITTED sex.

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Normal as in he functioned well.
He simply wanted a serious girlfriend, I don't know about you, but a serious girlfriend might not be attracted to a man who visits prostitutes regularly.

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posted April 19, 2011 06:33 AM            

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This is where Linda's Twin Souls theory is deeply flawed. Nobody can be everything to another human being. And why would they want to, unless they are on some kind of ego trip? Prostitutes are expert at what they do. They don't pretend to be expert at anything else, but the relationship junkie wants to be perfect at everything, including what is best done by professionals.

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posted April 19, 2011 07:38 AM            

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I don't know about you, but a serious girlfriend might not be attracted to a man who visits prostitutes regularly.

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No indeed. and that is why he wouldn't tell her, but he would still go. And a lot of men, including the married sort, do have a kind of relationship with their prostitute.

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posted April 19, 2011 10:47 AM            

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Prostitutes are expert at what they do.

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this is actually a fallacy generally perpetuated by men... most prostitues are in fact junkies who turn tricks to earn money for more drugs... at least where i live... i can state this with a fair amount of certainty having participated in a seminar which dealt with life on the streets - present amongst the speakers were two prostitutes ( one "recovered" and the other one not )
as for Linda's theory - well, i won't completely disagree with you but keep in mind that she was a romantic...

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posted April 21, 2011 07:11 AM            

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I question the use of the word "most". For every desperate streetwalker, there is a high class escort who is presentable enough to be admitted to the very best hotels. Most marriage is a form of long term prostitution. I do not say that as an insult

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posted April 22, 2011 12:44 AM            

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that may be the case in your area but is most definitely not the norm here maklhouf...

quick tangent that has nothing to do with this topic - can i just mention how much i appreciate the calm in this section of LL... the fact that topics are discussed civilly sans animosity...

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posted April 22, 2011 05:32 AM            

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quick tangent that has nothing to do with this topic - can i just mention how much i appreciate the calm in this section of LL... the fact that topics are discussed civilly sans animosity...[/B]

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Amen to that emitres. With regard to different areas of prostitution, check out the Chinese, they are very sensible about it

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