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lalala
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posted October 10, 2005 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalala     Edit/Delete Message
im a 19year old guy actually

heh scorpios..... yeah well whatever i write will never truly satisfy that drive then. i am a taurus. my best friend and saving grace in my darkest hour was a scorp.

i find that the perfection of life is like riding a wheelie on a bicycle. taureans sometimes have a way of never pulling back hard enough. and scorpios sometimes pull back too far. both meet in the middle though one day.

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iAmThat
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posted October 11, 2005 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Lalala,

Such profound thoughts coming from a 19 year old. How the heck did you know that detail about Gandhi

Books? Any connection with India?

===I would like to share following thought. Please don't drop dead laughing =======

Well I am thinking that this universe was created because the Earthly mother God lusted for the Father God. The Gods in heaven made a trap for her by masking as Father God.
Well she got tricked into it, left her abode and she fell into the chaos. She was chased by a fiery lion, send by her brother, and she started loosing her light. She sang songs of repentance and later the Father God moved by her, send his light and placed it on her crown so that her pursuers will not harm her. This light protected her from the evil Gods.

I am not an expert, but I think this light that the Father God sent and meets the crown, is type of a sexual union between male/female. And we are keeping the matter world from becoming dead by reproducing good children of God who can inherit His kingdom. Why because the mother God beat her chest while she was drifting in chaos and wondering what would happen with her remnants.

Quite a story huh mixed with my own commentaries...details are in the Nag Hammadi library.

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sue g
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posted October 11, 2005 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
lala

Apologies for the mistaken gender......although I know you wouldnt make issue of being called a "girl". OMG 19 years old......so young......so much life to live!!!!

Well when I was 20 I said I would never get divorced......two divorces later and after changing quite a lot of my opinions in life....i realise that the wisdom of age has a lot to answer for.

I admire your courage to speak out and stand apart at such a young age, and I hope you meet your "one" soon. However......you may change your mind later in life and adopt a different stance.....and then again......you may not....

We change with age, with experience and most I know mellow in their views......yes even Taureans.......LOL...(and Scorpions).

Am glad to hear you were given support by a good friend....true kinship is most valuable isnt it and at times rare?

Interesting what you wrote about Taurus and Scorpio......I never hit it off with a lot of the women in the past....but found the men approachable....but then again I am a female Scorp.........!!!!!

Good luck to you lala....

With love


Sue xxx

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posted October 11, 2005 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I think you're right, Sue. Experience accounts for a lot.

What would be the purpose of sex, and particularly receiving pleasure through sex if we weren't meant to enjoy it?

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lotusheartone
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posted October 11, 2005 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
of course you were meant to enjoy it, but without soul purpose, the LOVE, it becomes
an instinct, a need, a lust, a sin
when you need to find your twin, here and now
is the time to focus, it's the time we find our twins, we are entering a new stage.

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sue g
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posted October 11, 2005 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Well AG

God help the ones that desparately want children or intimacy and then never find their twin......seems such a waste of a life doesnt it??

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posted October 11, 2005 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Indeed

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lalala
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posted October 11, 2005 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalala     Edit/Delete Message
Iamthat- i admire Gandhi because he is a true example of someone trying to be the godhead. He in my opinion is on the same scale as Jesus, Buddha and all other spiritual leaders. I just finished the "Essential writings of Gandhi". all of his writings are online though (http://www.mkgandhi.org/index.htm)

sue- i only made an issue of being called a girl and my age because of the perceived ideas of teenage boys being sexually enthralled.... trust me, i have been. i was plotting murder before the plan unfolded in my life. things have changed. and the thing about meeting my one- i may or i may not. its not for me to worry about nor is it for me to be lonely over. i am gaining trust in Iam and its for Iam to decide.


some thoughts on sex. there is a black and white as to why people lust after another body. there is also a gray but we can get to that afterwards.

the black- archetypes. it's easier to unlayer the archetypes when the average guy looks at a girl/woman.

the picture perfect 2005 woman- hrm uber skinny with improperly proportioned breasts (cosmo cover girls et all). this man would like fake breasts for their shear size and not think twice about how they were man made. a man would choose this girl as the "hottest" because he is so insecure about himself that he finds comfort in subscribing to idea of 2005 and doing everything he could to make sure he wasn't judged by anyone else subscribing to 2005 (and in his eyes anyone who isn't subscribing to 2005 is a dork, geek, loser- so he doesn't care what they think). He finds mild material security in whats around him, whats hitting him from every angle, so he hugs it back by conforming his ideas to the world that "hugs" him.. on tv, radio, internet. he finds this girl not only hot but needed to feel accepted in society.. the society he feels he owes so much to for hugging him during his subconscious plight of not feeling accepted by himself. ask this man what is better than a 60" television and his answer will be a 70". exception- his mother looks like a cosmo cover girl- thats some gray issue. and to cover all of my tracks im trying to convey a general idea using specific examples- im sure that cosmopolitan is a very fine magazine, im just using it as the purveyor of 2005 ideas. this man is stuck in the material. he would have liked the plump ladies 400 years ago, the strong woman in the 30s and the covergirl in the 40s. If he were amish he would like the girl who showed the most ankle...

the picture perfect woman (timeless edition)- the mother! of course the mother figure. now like the addendum at the bottom of the picture perfect 2005 woman, if your mother looks like a skinny bimbo then that could fall into the gray matter of having an extremely immature mother which would probably mean you have an extremely materialistic father, which probably means you had a very awkward childhood, which means you're probably going through a very trying adulthood. digressssssssion... (all digressions and i apologize for those i offended) .... the MOTHER FIGURE- round hips and big breasts- the round hips indicate health and health indicates fertility. the ability of this woman to carry the man's seed so his name lives on.... since we live in 2005 and 70" tvs are better than 60" tvs, the reciprocal of this thought includes songs like "i like big butts" and however else you would like to make this idea fit in with 2005- its not hard- because all women know about the term junk in the trunk and its no longer a self conscious issue, but a way to feel good about yourself (i think we've leaned too far into women conturing to these beliefs...get to that later- ya know masculine based society, females subscribing to 2005, females acting the way men want them to- passitivity is the feminine virtue). Big Breasts- men dont aren't supposed to cry! well if you aren't crying that means you have everything figured out or you're blocking your emotions. if you block your emotions you're blocking your feelings. if you're blocking your feelings i guarantee energy is being blocked in your base chakra (if you're a guy)- blocked in your dong, and i guarantee that is just reeking all sorts of havok on daily activities. i also guarantee you'll get cancer young- woooo lalala so quick to judge and condemn. no, actually with the advent of the computer the human race is receiving information 10x quicker than it did 15 years ago. if that information isn't assimilated properly or discerned properly energy cloggings will occur in the chakra system thus disease. Big Breasts. If men are supposed to cry but dont they're blocking their emotions and they're not growing as individuals. When a man is subconsciouly wanting to cry but cant for fear of being judged he reverts back to a baby or atleast he wants a mother figure so he can be one while sexing it up at night. Babies cry and dont know why. Those who dont question these internal feelings are crying and dont know why. Ah yes, the importance of asking why- and also the importance of allowing emotions to wash over your soul- which may lead to crying.

so the difference between the man seeking the mother figure and the 2005bimbo is that the 2005bimbo satisfies the thirst to be accepted in society. and the mother figure satisfies the thirst to not have to ask why- a very childish thing to want to do. there are gray areas. but one man is ruled by materialistic thoughts and one man is ruled by his weak self pity filled ideals. one man finds pleasure in "BEING A MAN RAWR" and one man finds comfort in being a baby when he isn't quite sure he agrees with "BEING A MAN RAWR" but can't seem to overcome the 2005 idea.

there are gray areas. but these are two very heavily used schools of thought.

mild gray area- the MILF. the Mothers id like to ****. Why would a man like a MILF? at first glance it would be believed that it would fill the mother role perfectly- mildly. yes, this is a gray area. but which sex and age represents wisdom. ah yes the middle aged woman. not young anymore, not old yet... within that window the symbol of wisdom lies. now put a set of big breasts and big rear then you have gray area and then its a case by case basis as to why an individual man likes that individual woman (partially likes 2005 ideas, partially seeking wisdom, partially seeking a mother). In fact this is such a gray issue i wont go any further.

holy crap. maybe ill write about what women like and why later. its a much shorter portion because what a girl likes isn't based on 2005 as much, because 2005 is a masculine idea. what women like all comes down to their spiritual state. if they're a baby they wont a pretty boy toy. if they're insecure they want a bad boy. if they're materialistic they want something everyone looks at twice. there are a lot of variations.

all of these assumptions dont include love of the individual. these are all on the black side of ignorance and the white side of information and true soul union may include some archetypical desires and lust but also a need for the other person, not the person's body....


i feel that was all over the place. the fact is it could be written out alot better and longer. i will one day soon. just not today. much <3

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lotusheartone
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posted October 11, 2005 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
lalala,

That was very well said, and makes perfectly good sense, thanks for sharing

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sue g
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posted October 11, 2005 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks lala, for a young un you certainly talk like an old un........hope your dreams come true and you find your "one"........have fun looking !!!!

Love

Sue
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Lialei
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posted October 12, 2005 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message
Having problems posting longer posts once again. So, forgive this bit of weirdness but gonna copy/paste and put my reply in seperate posts.~~~

Good to see you're one of the rare alert ones who see through the sham of illusion, lalala. Very wise observations!


well, said, Sue. And yes, sparkle in the eye...not that it's necessary, but a good shot of it now and then keeps the blood pumping and Spirit sparkling for sure. (and hey, if I were a bloke myself....! )

I like your story, iAm. Very creative thoughts. Well, I especially liked the thought of it as a compassionate and generous gift that spreads light.

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Lialei
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posted October 12, 2005 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message

you have so many good points and observations, lalala. It's admirable that you are following your own Truth. God knows, it's a challenge with society as it is these days. Sex has been distorted in so many ways and I would be the first to agree that seperating it from Love has played it's part. And the degredation of women's pride and individuality is sad to see. Objects to be used for selfish gratification we should never be perceived as being. Dehumanizing others is destructive in any way. I am always forever frustrated by narrow thinking. I don't understand why people have to always be so extreme in thinking there is a right way and a wrong...or a this way or that. It's so restrictive. (please don't get me wrong...not saying you are doing that here .)

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Lialei
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posted October 12, 2005 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message

When I talk of domination/submission it is really with a playfullness (although passionate too! )of spirit. I wouldn't feel comfortable opening such parts of myself, unless mutual respect had already been established and understood between each other beforehand in some way. So there would be no misunderstanding, or assumptions that anything but equality existed beyond the 'bedroom'. I'd have to know myself first that I was respected as an equal. Any signs of domination or suppression to my freedom, would be a turn off immediately to me anyway...and so the man wouldn't have found himself as far as being sexually intimate with me.
...just wanted to explain that a bit.

As far as Sprituality and Sex...I see God as non-judgemental. I know many see God as judgmental, all-knowing, and over-lording, but I don't see God that way. I think we are much harder on ourselves than God would ever presume to be. We control and limit ourselves and others in ways that God doesn't even do.
I've heard many priests say that they believe the vow for chasity is out-dated and unnecessary to their Spirituality. Would it really affect how giving they were to others? I feel that giving and receiving is a necessary balance that is a postive way to keep an equllibrium and therefore a balanced perception flowing.
If you are empty yourself...than what do you have to give? Not that sex fulfills you...but what I'm saying is I don't feel the need to deprive oneself from joy, in order to bring it to others. Actually, I agree with Sue that joy spreads joy. Love spreads Love. One's spirituality is from an internal Wholeness. Non-judgemental Acceptance that begins first with oneself.

well, enough of rambling for now.
Have a lovely day.

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Lialei
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posted October 12, 2005 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message
...hahahha....a quick afterthought...

you know what kind of hypocrisy really irritates me?
The American President can perform all sort of atrosities to humanity and no one blinks an eye (like now, fighting against preventing human torture. ???? grrrrr)...

yet if he gets a blow job in the oval office everyone screams impeachment.

Now, not promoting adultery...but just where are our priorities in this country?
Seems self-righteousness is far more important to people than caring for humanity will ever be.

ok...just had to get that out.

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted October 12, 2005 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAGUS of MUSIC     Edit/Delete Message
OOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Im about to have alot of fun with this one !

Soon as I get more time on the computer that is.

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted October 12, 2005 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAGUS of MUSIC     Edit/Delete Message
Still reading through this, and trying to do a few other things now..

But for now, lotus , about this posting -

"""The Original SIn story Linda told us about
Osiris and Set the crime of killing his brother
and cutting him up into 14 pieces
We are all divine
we are all God's Chidren
this crime
caused all the lies
and made us forget"""

now,,, the subject of Osirus, Isis, Horus, and any other "God", or more realistickly "Anukia aliens" as many in archeology, and other profesions have been finding to be be very valid and worth considering,,, was something Miss Goodman knew virtualy nothing about. Sorry to put it that plain,,, but when it came to these subjects,, Miss Goodman was very poorly researched and enlightend..

She had some good ideas,, and for taking absolutly no scientific, or researched of an aporach she had some great guesess... Just that none of this holds any water.

Indeed some thigns hapend between Osirus and Set. And many mroe things went down between other Annukia Gods that certainly devistated human kind, as well as sent us on many a violent paths of karma... It was far from a matter of Set killing Osirus that led to our original sin...


So much more to say on this thread.. Will do that later..

SueG and LiaLei,,, as always I cant agree more,, ,.

Especialy you Lia,, I dont think I could say any of what youve just posted better no matter how hard I try.

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lotusheartone
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posted October 12, 2005 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Magus of Music

How nice to see you. I on the other hand, no about this subject a little bit,
and I agree the stroey is true
'another race
to contend with
you see

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posted October 13, 2005 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for divinia     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
sex is a great way to learn about the unspoken fears and unspoken frustration that each of us may possess

I think this quote of yours, lalala, is very relevant. I think that sex is one of the best ways to open the heart chakra. In fact, I think it is very often the only way many people have access to this "sacred center". Having said that, I do not think it would be good for many to do without sex. I do agree with you that objectification of men/women blinds many souls to true sharing. Many people do not know themselves or their motivations. I realize that immortals do have a much better understanding of themselves and the world, but I do not think the way to true understanding/clarity of thought is denial of our physical selves.

Jesus never said that one should deny the body. He did not live as if one should deny the body. Assuming he did not have a sexual partner, I believe he did not because it was not the right time/choice for him. It was St. Paul who said that it would be better for a man not to have a wife (to achieve spiritual aims). St. Augustine proposed the mind/body duality which has wrought havoc with the Catholic Church and with many people's minds ever since. He achieved his "beatific visions" through denial of his physical self. I, however, have achieved my own moments of ecstasy/being-in-the-presence-of-the-Creator through my physical senses, both sexual and otherwise. I do not feel that these moments are any less valid.

I do believe that many people choose the wrong partner in an effort to fulfill their biological needs. This is certainly a huge hindrance to spiritual growth. Being a Libra, I know how desperate one can feel about finding the "one" (if there is a one besides one's own self/spirit). This desperation can cloud all thinking and prohibit the use of good judgment.

I am a 36-year-old happily married woman. I love my husband dearly. I share with him. I am not abstinent. He helps me to grow. I may or may not be an immortal. I do know, however, that I am increasing in my spiritual awareness.

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Sincerely,
divinia

What wisdom can you find that is greater than kindness? -- Jean-Jacques Rousseau

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posted October 13, 2005 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Jesus had a partner
Mary Magdeline
also a disciple
also his lover
his wife


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posted October 13, 2005 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAGUS of MUSIC     Edit/Delete Message
Alright,, before I say anythign else,,

lalala- Your lengthy essay up there, sounds like a very well depicted, and thought out description on how damaging "pop culture" has been to humanity in america over the bettter part of the last century. And surely this so called "way of life" and mentality is spreading like a plague acrost the rest of the globe-

some coutries youth are buying into these illusions of what matters quicker then others.

... yet

Im not sure if abstinece till you find "that one" is the best way, or even healthy physicaly, mentaly, or spiritualy.

Actualy- I know it isnt healthy, just as we all know that this Earth is almost round.

Even "western medicine" has recently been able to acnowledge what the Eastern sciences have known for thousands of years- that lack of sexual activity severly damages the body, and reproductive organs, and even negativly effects other internal organs, everyhting form the liver,kidneys, to the pancreus and prostate... then theres all the emotional and soul damage total abstinecne does [do we realy need to bring up the subject of what has happend to so many catholic priests and nuns as an example ? ]

Then theres the point that I wish more peaple who are sereously contemplating the whole " I am waiting for my twin soul thing" would get-

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posted October 13, 2005 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAGUS of MUSIC     Edit/Delete Message
There may be a very very very FEW exceptions to this,

most peaple, dont just get to have their twin soul be there frist romance, or physical experience. Be it that they wiated till they where 20 years of age [I actualy waited till 21 the first time I had all out intercourse my self], or 110 years old.

It just doesnt work like that, unless recently, in your very last life you already solved,taught, and learned everyhting that must be said and done between your other soul circle connections- "soul mates"- you dont get to just sit around, practice purity, do all the other soul twin calling acts and ways, and poof one day you run into your actual twin...

There are so many other souls with a close conncetion, and ots of karmic history that must be solved , before things are ment to be with ones actual twin... And these soul mates can even often be easily mistaken as ones twin ,untill thorugh lots of trial and error- the difference is learned....

Beleive me, I wish it was that simple, your apraoch on this is the one I once had, or similar too... Im sorry to say- it doesnt work like that... Theres too much to be learned from the others in your soul cluster first, good thigns, sad things, blsifully happy times too share,,, horific, and deathly painfull events that will be shared as well...

All part of the unversal master plan Im sorry to say. If I had it my way, thigns would work alot differently, and certainly simpler.

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posted October 13, 2005 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
There's only one thing Magus
this is the time, it's been foretold
that all Twin Souls would
gravitate toward one another

In a sense Judgement day, is
probably less than 20 years away
time to find your Truth
time to cleanse yourself
prepare, and meditate

anyway, that's how I feel

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posted October 13, 2005 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Magus,

As usual I am blown away by your intellect, your deliverance, your articulation......I indeed agree with your sentiments also....but even it I didnt.....I would take my hat off to you....

Some people look for the positive, some for the negative.....or it could be called realism...but I can only see TRUTH and HUMILITY in what you write....but then I am biased....cos you are a good friend to me.....

And you are indeed very "pure of heart"

God bless

love


Sue xxx

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posted October 13, 2005 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAGUS of MUSIC     Edit/Delete Message
Yes lotus, I know this is a day in age when a good percentage of "soul twin" will reunite... and in the process of them having to reunite- they must first go through lessons, and experiences with the other peices of them selves-

their soul mates, or other parts of their soul cluster.

Twin souls are far from the only person each of us have to learn things, experience things, remember things, and re-ballence things karmicly with.

Many things must be learned- therfor experienced before two twin souls are going to meet, especialy if they are to meet, and be able to stay together.

These truths, and codes of our individual journeys through the univers, are part of the truth- beyond peaples "own personal truth".

I dont like knowing this to be the way it is- any more then you like having to conisider its possability, and therefor "go back to your drawing board".

Just a way of the Universe Ive had no choice but to recognise, and except .

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posted October 13, 2005 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAGUS of MUSIC     Edit/Delete Message
Sue you are the angelicly,deviled sweetest.

And as always ,thank you.

You as well, are the purest of hearts, always swiming through the depths of both light, and dark to find ancient ,universal, and personal truths- with a bold fearlessness most sorts of humans cant even fathom what it is to have and be.

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