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fieryscales
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posted March 20, 2008 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fieryscales     Edit/Delete Message
I was thinking of physical immortality last night and it got me thinking about a few things which needs answering...

If one practices PI, are they "immune" to been murdered, been killed in automobile accidents or dying from heart-attacks/strokes etc? I mean these are everyday realities and I cannot see how one can practice PI when these incidents happen all the time?

Or do Immortals have like a six sense to make them aware of what would happen to them, during the course of the day?

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posted March 20, 2008 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rubina     Edit/Delete Message
I practice Physical Immortality. I have a Knowing that I will not be harmed or hurt in this lifetime. I feel that I am here on purpose with a mission to discover and to carry out.

Before I changed my life around a few years ago I lived very dangerously, drink and drugs etc and got into some very bad situations. I remember a car crash I was in and I should have been killed, everybody else was hurt and I didn't have a sratch, I was saved by an energy that surrounds me ~ that energy is constant and the source of my knowing that I am physically immortal and always protected.

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posted March 20, 2008 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
I actually see the physical body as something which restricts our infinite consciousness.

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posted March 20, 2008 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, Linda talked about invoking Spiritual Protection (although she didn't call it that). There are Immortals with Spiritual Protection, Immortals without it, and also people who have Spiritual Protection but who will grow old and die. Somewhere on this Forum, I wrote a very detailed explanation, but to be brief, the Ordination Linda said to use is thus: "I am in complete control of the fate of my physical body. Nothing can harm me without my consent. And I do not choose to give my consent. I choose to live."

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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posted March 21, 2008 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Here is what I wrote oh so long ago:

Now, on to the deeper layers! I will present several statements. Run each One through your Truth meter. As you confirm the Truth of each part, you will understand the whole.

There are no accidents.

Every event has meaning and purpose.

Our reactions to environmental stimuli are based upon our perceptions.

There is no evil, but our thoughts make it so.

Our thinking determines our experience in those whom are Enlightened.

For those with a victim mentality, it is the opposite; their experience determines their thinking.

All that we are at this moment of no time is the result of what we have thought in the past.

All we shall become is the result of what we think now.

Our thoughts create our realities.

Our thoughts alone are responsible for our every experience.

We attract circumstances and events by mere thought alone.

We are the gods responsible for our Fate.

The bottom line is this: There is no experience that we do not create--either directly or unkNOWingly. No accident can seriously harm us, no animal can harm us, no dis-ease can harm us, and no person can harm us WITHOUT our conscious or unconscious permission! That bears repeating. Read it until it "clicks."

We can let our Higher S-elves control us (by letting us Learn everything through experience, i.e. the hard way), or we can exercise Free-will and cut those puppet strings. We can Live our Lives in fear, or we can affirm our Protection from all harm.

Until Spiritual Protection is understood at an inner-kNOWing level, an affirmation will help. Do the following once a day: Imagine your body surrounded by a solid white Light. "Hear" the sound of its whirring frequency. As you surround your body, say the following aloud,"I am completely surrounded by an opaque white light, which protects me at all times from all harm." Then continue with my variation of Linda's affirmation,"I am completely in control of the Fate of my physical body. Nothing can harm me without my consent, and I do not choose to give my consent. I choose to live, to be safe, and to remain Protected from harm at all times." Sooner or later, you will "realize" that you are Protected, and this ritual will no longer be necessary. When in a potentially dangerous situation, simply image the White Light surrounding you.

If you think you can have your Life taken from you by another or by an accident, then so shall it be. If you k-NOW that you cannot be harmed, then so shall it be.

There are a few Rules. If we wish for the Uni-verse to respect our Lives, we must likewise respect all Life. Sometimes, it is necessary to put a creature out of its pain and misery--to end its suffering. And no One likes roaches, mosquitos, ticks, or fleas. But there are natural ways to deal with these. As Linda has stated, we must never take away any creature's Free-will choice to Live.

The Highest form of Spiritual Protection comes from not killing plants. Fruit is meant to be eaten (the seeds are spread by animals through the wastes). What is a fruit? Anything you can eat that contains seeds (and not destroy the plant). This confers the type of Spiritual aura that Saint Francis--Patron Saint of Animals had, where he could almost talk to the animals. Still, this diet is not necessary for the amount of Spiritual Protection needed to stay safe from all harm. Simply k-NOW that you are safe, and respect all Life--even that of an insect. We cannot give Life, and we have no right to take it away.

Here's a practical example: A plane is going to go down. You suddenly use your Free-will and choose to board that plane at the last minute. Being Spiritually Protected, you have just saved the Lives of all on the plane.

Another example: A man intends on walking into a movie theatre and killing all in a random shooting act of violence. Three things could ensue. He walks in and changes his Mind (you are there). He pulls the trigger, and the gun backfires and explodes in his hand. Or he goes on to a different theatre (the least likely scenario). Either way, YOU are Protected, and often your mere presence will protect others. (If there is a deep Karmic reason for an action, the others near you may not be Protected.) Most likely, such a person will change his Mind. If he persists, he will probably experience Instant Karma and be killed himself or seriously injured.

It is best to be both Immortal AND to have Spiritual Protection. Any One who tries to harm a Spiritually Protected Immortal will suffer immediate repercussions. It is simply automatic. Their negative energies are bounced right back at them. This includes black magic and other dark arts, as well as psychic vampirism. I once knew a very hateful lady who practiced black magic. She had done so for years, and she felt she was untouchable. I do not understand why she hated me so, but she told me in very blunt terms that she was going to destroy me with her magic. (Her rituals involved killing cats, by the way.) I just smiled, and I sent her Light and forgiveness. The next day, she fell and broke her back. I, on the other hand, only prospered more. It was not my fault she was hurt. Her own negative energy just returned to her (multiplied threefold). Boy, was she ever scared of me afterwards. She thought I was some kind of sorcerer!

Immortals who are also Spiritually Protected greatly reduce their Karma. Let's face it, nothing truly bad can happen to us, so past Karma is effectively diluted. All past actions and reactions, as well as Karmic bonds and ties, are watered down, so to speak. But NEW Karma is dealt with STRONGLY (The Thunderbolt Path of Accelerated Karma), so we must be very careful. I find it refreshing to mentally say,"I Bless You" to all whom I meet or even look at. It works mini miracles all the time. Try it, you'll like it!

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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posted March 21, 2008 01:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Randall, everything you wrote was/is wonderful!
Except for One thing, there is no escape from Karma..unless the Other forgives YOU..each involved must come full-serpent-circle..no matter how positive One is..that can not erase what has been done..til all is Forgiven..
I have forgiven EveryOne, but I suffer daily, even with my positive attitude, I am immortal, I will not die, but I will still suffer pain and hurt, til all has come full circle...

Balance must be achieved... ...

LOve and Magic!

P.S. Linda believed she would not die, she didn't even write a will...yet karma, is the Universal Laws...and debts must be paid. ...

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MAG
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posted March 21, 2008 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAG     Edit/Delete Message
Hi everyone!
I really love this thread, I just feel like a very excited kid! I needed to know about this chapter of Immortality in "English" as I've read LG's book in other language...

Lotusheartone, are you an Immortal? Is it very difficult to become one? I meant I've tried few years ago, but is very hard to get rid of bad thoughts, feelings, etc that one's got inside... I just would love to become one, I just had a baby few months ago and I want to spend an eternity with her!

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posted March 21, 2008 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rubina     Edit/Delete Message
Hi MAG

Congratulations on the birth of your baby. To help you to get rid of the negitive thoughts I recommend that you fast for a period of time. The benefits will be outstanding on physical, emotional, mental and spiritual levels. Almost anyone can do it but its probably not advised if you are breast~feeding. It is wonderful for cellular rejuvenation too.

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posted March 21, 2008 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fieryscales     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Randall, you made it crystal clear. I remember now Linda talking about what you mentioned, in her Star Signs book.

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posted March 21, 2008 12:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Congratulations MAG!

Re-Member this...
M O M
Mind Over Matter...

I am Immortal, I have a bubble of white Light
that surrounds me at all times, I have had many near death experiences, in my heart, I know I won't die,
unless, it is required of as karma, a lesson, needed to learn, I don't think that will happen in this body temple, my path has been so accelerated, and I know I have so much still to do, the next couple of years, will be very chaotic..
In my Mind, I'm 23, In this body temple in Earth years, I will be 42 on May 5th...
I will never grow up, no, not me..Peter Pan, that's it, I have Peter Pan Syndrome, believing in NeverLand, a place when we were mermaids, when we came from the Sea..
Rambling into too many creations, LOL...

M M

LOve to ALL. ...

P.S. Oh yes, fasting is great, and for total mastership, as far as intake is concerned, it can be achieved in 7 days, you can fall and eat, not so good things, and it will only take 7 days to cleanse it!

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posted March 21, 2008 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zanya     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
the karmic chain can be broken by either one of the two people bound by it (and, of course, you have karmic ties with many people...not just one). it can be broken either by the potential giver of the karma -- or by the potential receiver of the karma...how do you break the chain of karma? by getting in touch with your own Higher Self, via tuning in, as to a radio station or television channel, on the right frequency.

~Star Signs

Diane Stein has a good book on balancing karma called Reliance on the Light.

those who delight in others' misfortune and unfortunate karma are creating difficult karma of their own. judge not, lest ye be judged.

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posted March 22, 2008 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAG     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks everybody...
Lotus,

Didn't LG said, once you've chosen the path to Immortality most of your Karma would be eliminated? Or something like that?...

Rubina;
How does "Fast" would help me to get rid of my bad thoughts and feelings?

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posted March 22, 2008 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAG     Edit/Delete Message

Could I decide for my baby daughter to be an Immortal?

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Hi MAG,

I believe, and from experience, and Linda's Life=File, that just choosing to be immortal, does not erase your karma, we are each responsible for our actions, whether good or bad..

Could Jesus really die on the cross,
for all our Sins..
No,
No-One can take over your sins, each is responsible for his/her own...

Until the debts are paid,
there is a something out of balance..
complete mastership
would be when all the Karma is balanced. ...

There is no escape from what we have done..every Life carries into the next..like taking up, where you left off, in the last life, or body temple...

Key, is to Know ThyS-elf
in all Life Incarnations
to OverSoul=God...

From there, it's just a matter of Time
to coming in balance. ...

I don't know if I explained that very well, hehe, but ask me anything, I'll do my best to answer. . .

LOve and Reverence to ALL. ...

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posted March 22, 2008 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
In my opinion, Linda meant that said Karma would be "watered down." For example, if I murdered someone in a past life, and then I choose to be Immortal, I can't be killed. I will pay in other ways, of course.

Because of Free-will, you can't choose immortality for another person. But you can raise her and teach her death is a choice, instead of programming her for death.

I might even go as far as to say that Karma is voluntary. If you read the story, The Little Soul and the Sun, it explains how we choose all of our experiences. That sort of gives Karma a more human face--instead of some inexplicable force. Of course, we ALL choose to volunteer; that's how we grow in this play we call life. I choose to be the antagonist in this lifetime, and you are my antagonist in the next "play." What we call Karma in the human shell is actually Free-will in our Spiritual shell. And when we cut those puppet strings and choose to open that box of Free-will Tinker Toys, it changes the playing field. To quote the famous cartoon character, Snagglepus, "Exit--stage left!" All of that is just my opinion, of coures.

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Very good Randall..

but karma, is not inexplicable, it's
you get, what you give..each action,
having a re-Action, or thus choosing
not to re-Act, Ah, See, to forgive, and neutralize the action, is magic balance..
otherWise this Carousel, is never going to stop, til it's out of Control. ...

Through life experience, and re-membering past lives, I can say, you get back on ,where you left off, be it a new birth, or a new body temple..the karma, Akashic records are there, there is no escape, til we balance our checkbook,
I LOve numbers!

LOve to ALL of YOU. ...

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posted March 23, 2008 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fieryscales     Edit/Delete Message
To me, Karma is: " For every action, there is an equal re-action.."" Am I right in thinking that?

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posted March 23, 2008 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Correct. Every action creates ripples. I agree that the records are always there, just that we all choose (on the highest level) to experience different roles that (on the Earthly plane) "appears" to be Karma. Anywho, would you not agree that we have probably all killed others in past lives? And would you not also agree that Immortals (typically) can't die? And that one can have Spiritual Protection from harm? There you go. Watered down Karma.

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hehe, yup! to both of you!

Happy Easter!

through remembering past lives, I know
what I have to fix in this life, achieving
that is most difficult..making amends along
they way, balancing that karmic checkbook..
checks and minuses,
til I walk the line
in the ring of fire
lol
Bull's Eye
Center
Mastership of my ship-temple

LOve and Reverence to ALL. ...

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posted March 23, 2008 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieDust     Edit/Delete Message
fieryscales - Happy Easter!

That's how I see it - every action good or bad has an equal re-action, I think it boils down to how we react to good things and not so good things that happen in our lives.....


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posted March 23, 2008 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
The tricky part is in knowing what is truly good and what is truly bad. Often, we interfere with what will be best for us, by invoking those Free-will Tinker Toys. When we don't get what we want, we view that as bad, but it could be the best thing for us. And "misfortunate" things could link us to great happiness around the corner. But yeah, trying to do no harm and helping others along the way can't hurt.

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posted March 23, 2008 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fieryscales     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you guys.
So, in my personal experience, since I have liver damage, I must of caused someone liver trouble or did not care for someone who had liver problems, in a past life? How would I "negate" this karma of mine?

I understand Karma now and do agree it is hard to " correct" your Karma.

What is this " Free will Tinker Toys?"

Happy Easter PD ( and everyone else).

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This is getting good, hehe

Using our Free Wi11 to change the course of things, avoiding karma...

the difficult paths, seem to have the most
Learning and Growing..going with the flow..
some blows of Fate, that Thunderbolt path of accelerated karma, wanting to Master OneSelf
in this Life, in this Body Temple...

Tinker Toys, building creating, realizing our Free Wi11, to co-create with God, our S-elf in Heaven in OverSoul form..

we created this world
we can fix it
and make it better..
Heal it, and ALL...

Fieryscales,
There could be many different reasons for liver damage..one could even choose from the other side to have this, say, because of alcoholism in a previous life...to keep it from happening again..within you are the answers..How to balance that karma, you are doing that now, by sharing and being here, and any other wonderful things you do for people, it will come to you..

LOve and Reverence to ALL. ...

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posted March 24, 2008 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
The liver is remarkable. While regeneration is "locked up" in most of our organs, the liver easily regenerates. Let doctors do what they can, but trust in the Divine Doctor that resides within. Once you learn the Lesson it brings, I feel it will "spontaneously remiss." That's doctor lingo for a miracle.

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Heal ThyS-elf...

Great thoughts, Randall!

always

"Expect A Miracle"

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