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Topic: Changing One's Identity?
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MAKLHOUF
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posted June 21, 2012 12:46 AM
  
Travelling, you have to present ID everywhere you go. You can't hide your name or age.------------------
To live outside the law you must be honest. Bob Dylan IP: Logged |
MAKLHOUF
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posted June 21, 2012 05:27 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
For the resident Immortals, have you given thought to if/when you will get a new identity? In today's internet age, it's easy to do. What's your opinion on it? It sounds cool. Choose a new name, a new birth date, and create a new personna. 
How is it easy to do? We are tracked everywhere we go. People who offer second passports and fake ID are generally conmen. Do you know one who isnīt? ------------------
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Randall
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posted June 21, 2012 02:51 PM
There are flaws in the system, which you can use to get your own new ID. ------------------
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Randall
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posted June 21, 2012 02:56 PM
BTW, there is no law against obtaining a new identity, so long as it isn't used to commit fraud or a crime (as in making a life insurance claim or such as that). The FBI does it all the time for people. ------------------
"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
MAKLHOUF
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posted June 22, 2012 12:16 AM
The FBI can do it. You might have been able to it before the digital age, at the time when Linda was writing her books. But now, I doubt it. Your only hope is a global catastrophe that destroys information banks and leaves large numbers of people without identity papers.------------------
To live outside the law you must be honest. Bob Dylan IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted June 22, 2012 02:51 AM
Nah, the digital age makes it easier. It's very simple to do. I'm not going to post how here, but one can find out easily enough.IP: Logged |
MAKLHOUF
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posted June 22, 2012 06:32 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
BTW, there is no law against obtaining a new identity, so long as it isn't used to commit fraud or a crime (as in making a life insurance claim or such as that). The FBI does it all the time for people.
You can take on a dead personīs identity, but any government form you fill will have a clause warning that you will be prosecuted for filling false information. People are regularly jailed for putting false information on government forms. ------------------
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Randall
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posted June 22, 2012 12:27 PM
It's called "off the grid." ------------------
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MAKLHOUF
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posted June 22, 2012 02:33 PM
I suggest that sometime you will need to set up a password protected forum for immortals where these things can be discussed more openly. Knowflakes of three years good standing could be allowed in, or there could be some other security check. The main problem is to identify and avoid the fraudsters out there who are conning the gullible with fake documentation... unless you are planning to head for the hills and abandon life as most of us know it. ------------------
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MAKLHOUF
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posted June 25, 2012 12:27 AM
For instance, http://21overnight.com/
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T
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posted June 30, 2012 09:56 PM
I'm not physically immortal (thank god!) but have still decided to change my name. To something that rings truer and adds up to a better numerical vibration. & it's ...uh ...."working already"  IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 01, 2012 11:44 AM
It's not about buying fake IDs, Mak. You can get a real ID.------------------
"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
MAKLHOUF
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posted July 02, 2012 01:04 AM
If you have discovered a genuine loophole in identity law, discussing it, or hinting at it in an open forum will result in that loophole being closed. Is that what you want?------------------
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Randall
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posted July 02, 2012 10:09 AM
I haven't given it away.  ------------------
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Randall
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posted July 03, 2012 10:40 AM
Not sure this could be closed even if they wanted to. ------------------
"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
Mblake81
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posted July 04, 2012 12:09 AM
Perhaps I am wrong, but its not a new identity unless its clean.Its not clean because of the paper trail linking you to the old one. Other people would have to be involved? Someone, somewhere will have the documents. Oh, those lovely lovely documents.. Your barcode.  "Three can keep a secret if two are dead." -B.Franklin Our dog is chiped in the ear. I am somewhere most likely, *shrugs* "...Think of the children.." Its a chink in your armor plating, a viable method to exploit a fissure. Round and Round and Round and Round...Weeeee In other news, I was recently informed of my chink involving emotional blackmailing. Be back later, got some fire + hammering to do...  IP: Logged |
MAKLHOUF
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posted July 04, 2012 01:09 AM
I question the wisdom of discussing this in open forum. What do you expect to achieve by this?------------------
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Mblake81
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posted July 04, 2012 01:13 AM
Nothing and everything.I have nothing to achieve, exactly. But you have a point, so yeah. Agendaless The teacher said "Shhhhhh" so I will go stand in line with a finger over my mouth. Begin, Start over, Begin, Start over, Begin, Start over. ...besides, there are some men and women on this planet who don't care for secrets, even if some of them are living one. --You sig here MAK. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 04, 2012 12:37 PM
I just asked if anyone has thought about doing it. Not how to do it.------------------
"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
Mblake81
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posted July 04, 2012 04:54 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
I just asked if anyone has thought about doing it. Not how to do it.
Like I said, was probably wrong and I see I was. Apologies. Anyway when you ask these question I think how also and why. You can make a motivation for yourself if its good. Come on, you know I go on weird escapades. IP: Logged |
emitres
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posted July 05, 2012 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by T:
I'm not physically immortal (thank god!) but have still decided to change my name. To something that rings truer and adds up to a better numerical vibration. & it's ...uh ...."working already"
may i be so bold as to ask a couple of questions... did you change only one name or all? and why "thank god" - curiousity on my part, nothing more ------------------
" Some define good as that which preserves, and evil as that which destroys; but destruction can be cleansing and purifying, for there is such a thing in both men and races as spiritual constipation, which comes from too much preservation of the status quo." ( Dion Fortune ) IP: Logged |
T
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posted July 05, 2012 07:11 PM
Hi! No, not bold of you at all, but I'd rather not elaborate on the first question here. And "thank god" is because I would never want to not die of this physical body, or live for hundreds of years. I look forward to fulfilling my life's mission here and passing on at some point. I don't see life in the physical body or on earth as some kind of ultimate experience or goal or achievement or something that needs to be prolonged or extended. Maybe we are meant to live longer, but I like the idea of dying before I turn 100 years old and maybe way earlier. I don't see death as a failure or something to dread. Because in reality, it's an illusion. I think there is much more to look forward to elsewhere after we've shed these skins. I do see this place as a schoolroom.... more of a place we come temporarily to learn and grow. Someday we are meant to graduate from it completely. And at some point it is eventually time to move on and shed our physical skins once and for all. That's part of the goal in working towards Perfection. Then we wont need to come here anymore. In my mind, death is part of the process here and a natural way of life. Nothing is meant to be permanent here in this world, except for love - we get to keep that. That's how I feel anyway. IP: Logged |
MAKLHOUF
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posted July 06, 2012 01:53 AM
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Originally posted by T:
Hi! I do see this place as a schoolroom.... more of a place we come temporarily to learn and grow. That's how I feel anyway.
Perhaps what we are here to learn is how to stay alive------------------
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emitres
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posted July 06, 2012 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by T:
...look forward to fulfilling my life's mission here
very good point and i quite agree...
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Originally posted by T:
I don't see death as a failure or something to dread. Because in reality, it's an illusion. I think there is much more to look forward to elsewhere after we've shed these skins. I do see this place as a schoolroom.... more of a place we come temporarily to learn and grow.
very good points here as well - i completely agree that "death" shouldn't be regarded as a failure, merely a transition point... but Mak raises a really good question - what if, in fact, one of our many goals is to master physical immortality? that's the direction my thoughts/growth has been moving for some time...mastery over the physical so that we are able to choose, of our volition, where we go next... and i completely respect your choice not to elaborate on the first part of my original question... ------------------
" Some define good as that which preserves, and evil as that which destroys; but destruction can be cleansing and purifying, for there is such a thing in both men and races as spiritual constipation, which comes from too much preservation of the status quo." ( Dion Fortune ) IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 07, 2012 12:28 PM
The idea (for me) is to realize that death is a choice and not inevitable.------------------
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